noblefada: You see yourself, dodging and frantically trying to save your faces. You can now see why xtians were just avoiding this thread. I made two valid clarifications rather than the Op to do the honourable thing and admit it at least got those version, he simply avoided them

noblefada: and then my friend @Uyi whom I not even sure is a practising xtian right now easily punched some more holes in ur allusions and again what do we see, dodging

noblefada: Pls my friends, I'll tell you again explaining all ur contradictions above is a very simple thing but I'll choose not to, because u won't admit u were wrong even with a very valid response.

noblefada: I think I've achieve my aim, to show xtians viewing this thread ur folly, and big thanks to @Uyi for helping out.
Grace to you all

Ray McBlue: I was just seeing your post or I would have tackled it a long time ago.

Anyhoo, better late than never, so here goes...



Very poor argument. The bible didn't say anything about spiritual death, it made us to understand that Adam would meet his definite end if he were to disobey god's warning, which didn't happen. Stop attaching your own interpretation into what wasn't there.



Lol! Do you hear yourself? A further prove that there is disharmony between the two, don't you think? If someone said one thing, and a person says another, it's what the dictionary calls contradictions.



Long story short, you don't have a clue.




What is this??

God specifically told him in Genesis 35:10 to drop his original name(Jacob) in Old things have passed away, all things have become new, context. In fact it was a command not to be disobeyed.

Then God himself went on to disobey his own command to Jacob by rousing him with the very same name he commanded Jacob not to answer to anymore, and better yet, Jacob disobeyed God's direct command by responding to his former name, thus saying "Here I am."

Contradictions are all in their contradictory splendor between both verses, mate.






You are the one that lacked comprehension skills, mate.

Okay, let me try to break it down to your level of understanding;

Exodus 20:4- Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Read the bold 3 times until it sinks in, then Google the meaning of Cherubim.

Nuff said.





You shouldn't have bothered, cuz the arguments you posted didn't reflect well on you person, rather it questioned your intelligence.

noblefada:
Although I decided not engage u guys in ur folly, just wanted to support @Uyi. Ecc 3:14 KJV says I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
God intended man in Adam to live forever, but when he disobeyed he died spiritually and then physically.
Jacob as a person retained his name but concerning thepromise became the nation of Israel.

noblefada:
Although I decided not engage u guys in ur folly, just wanted to support @Uyi. Ecc 3:14 KJV says I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

noblefada: God intended man in Adam to live forever, but when he disobeyed he died spiritually and then physically.

noblefada: Jacob as a person retained his name but concerning thepromise became the nation of Israel.

Alfa Seltzer:

Are my questions to hard for the christian mind? Running away, are we?

Alfa Seltzer:

Are my questions to hard for the christian mind? Running away, are we?

quivah: there is just one thing I know; adam was never meant to die,God dint create man to die.
Death came into existence after they ate the forbidden Fruit,besides God dint mention the day they were gonna die or tell them gna die immediately..after eating the fruit!
"For the day thou eat of it,thou will surely die"
Is diff from "on the day thou eat of it".. blah blah"..
Na dem sabi!!

Proudly Agnostic

Doc_Miss: Okay.... I'm a christian. But I Just Don't Understand this.. Can a good fella please explain this


Matt17:12 But, I tell u Elijah has already come,but he wasn't recognised,and they chose to abuse him. And in the same way they will also make the Son Of Man suffer. Matt17:13 Then the disciples realized he was talking about John the Baptist


Now in John1:21 ''Well then who are you?'' they asked. ''Are u Elijah?''
''No'' , John replied .

I'm confused

noblefada:
I've said earlier answering ur question is waste of my time because u won't believe, to you guys u can't be wrong! I've had this problem with so many people on this forum, I think for us to come to a meaning end in future we need an unbiased moderator or umpire, so that meaningful verdict can be given. Just imagine all the explanations given so far but u guys still go ahead refute them.
Pls @ray even if ur believes are different we still gentlemen and courtesy demands mutual respect, enough of the name calling pls.

nnofaith: you didnt answer anything bro! you were just dancing around the ring like mohammed ali!

Ray McBlue:

Even though, you are an agnostic, you made more sense than all those confused Christians that had contributed so far, put together.

Ray Mcblue: i was expecting them to say that God wasn't intending Adam to die immediately, after eating the fruit, instead, they were spewing "spiritually dead" crap.

Ray Mcblue: Goes to show you that a lot of Christians are really ignorant of things and out of touch with realities.

this and many more

nnofaith: you didnt answer anything bro! you were just dancing around the ring like mohammed ali!

guy,u wicked o!!!

noblefada:
I've said earlier answering ur question is waste of my time because u won't believe, to you guys u can't be wrong! I've had this problem with so many people on this forum, I think for us to come to a meaning end in future we need an unbiased moderator or umpire, so that meaningful verdict can be given. Just imagine all the explanations given so far but u guys still go ahead refute them.
Pls @ray even if ur believes are different we still gentlemen and courtesy demands mutual respect, enough of the name calling pls.

nnofaith: you didnt answer anything bro! you were just dancing around the ring like mohammed ali!

noblefada:
It's funny, after typing reply about creation being a spiritual creation before physical with evidence of showing scripture, which @ray tried to discredit and @alfa ignored and ask other questions, part of which I also re-echoed while supporting @Uyi post on Adam all of which is just above for you guys to read and yet u're saying I didn't answer anything! dats being dishonest, you could have just said you were not satisfied with my answer rather than say I didn't answer them.
Listen I'm not here to argue with any body, because I've bin on that road b4 and u guys will stop at nothing to make sure u achieve ur aim, the only reason I reply the thread was just because of xtian brethren that may be reading the thread, so that they don't think you guys are telling the truth, which I've achieved above.
Finally let me say again I can give explanation of those contradictions easily, get an unbiased umpire then we can talk. Shallom.

Alfa Seltzer:

So christians needs you in order to keep their faith. Thay didn't understand what they were doing in the first place?

Stop dodging. Answer my two questions:
How did Judas die?
Who killed King Saul?
Was John the Baptist really Elijah?

Judas2013: My purpose on nairaland is to destroy christianity. Go on every praise jesus thread and destabilise them

judas is here again after betraying Jesus,this time hes here to erase all beliefs of Jesus.
Judas the eraser!!

noblefada: you claim there were 2 creations, Gen 1 &2, Nay there was just one creation, Gen 1 creation was essentially done in the Spirit of God, nothing physical, so God finished creating in His Spirit and then brought them to manifestation in the physical in Gen 2, that's why if u read Gen 2 very well, u'll never see the word create but just made and formed

noblefada: noblefada: another illusion u stated is that Jesus said in one place He is one with the Father and in another place the Father is greater. No contradiction here; u c in nature and substance God and Jesus are the same and represent the same thing but in authority God is greater.

Doc_Miss: ……

Alfa Seltzer:

So christians needs you in order to keep their faith. Thay didn't understand what they were doing in the first place?

quivah:
judas is here again after betraying Jesus,this time hes here to erase all beliefs of Jesus.
Judas the eraser!!

quivah:
judas is here again after betraying Jesus,this time hes here to erase all beliefs of Jesus.
Judas the eraser!!

Judas2013: Any why is this thread not on front page. Politics?

Judas2013:

I am here to sell his ghost for 30trillion pounds. This time it will be final

Ray McBlue:

Funny

quivah:
i'm sure no one will buy!!
He was sold for just 10silvers while He was alive. Now, will wanna buy a Ghost!
Tho,the Christians say He's pretty much still alive!