k2039: Heresy from the pit of hell.

God is a 'God of Compromise'.

Stop reading logic into the scriptures, God's standards are high and it will remain high.

LewsTherin:

Very true and very correct. If the couple failed to keep the conditions of getting married in that church, they should not be surprised as to the result.




There is more to being a christian than doing what is "the going culture". Does the fact that so many political and government office holders are thieving crooks make it right for anyone to steal from government funds?

The Bible has specific rules and keeping the marital bed undefiled is one. The same Bible has always maintained that we should not follow the multitude to sin.

The best the pastor can do is place them on a suspension, postpone the wedding and suspend them if they hold any position in church. I am sure the church has disciplinary guidelines and the couple should be made to serve the term prescribed there. If the couple is truly repentant, they will agree to the church's discipline and then the mercy card can then be played and the wedding conducted. Anything else is rebellion - whether you like it or not, that is the truth according to the Bible.

Pastor Kun: In the first instance the pastor had no business poking his nose into their personal affairs and inquiring if they had been having pre marital sex. His own is to preach to them and not to pronounce judgment. As the good Lord said; "let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Acidosis:

Any Pastor that agree to join the man and the woman under 'this condition' is not a Pastor but a hungry tout who called himself into Ministry for personal gains..

The cancelled event can't be re-arranged/re-scheduled if both party seek the face of God.. (Repentance)

..also any Judge that wish to preside over the matter can as well join them in a customary court, not a Church..

Church nor be beer parlour, oga.


Well I really do not blame you.. The new generation Pastors have turned the bible up-side and down.. Nowadays, I wonder where they get their messages.. I keep wondering if they are still preaching the same word Paul, and all the Apostles died for...

May God save us all..

Chizi Daniels: [b][/b]"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." (Hebrews 13:4).

Case closed!

jarsofclay: just like kenny said, any two partners courting ought to go 4 intensive premarital counselling. There, you would be told what and what not to do. No matter how anybody sees it, any marriage based on premarital sex is a bad foundation.
The problem is that everyone wants to wear the gown and receive the spiritual blessing but they dont want to pay the price. The church has principles, the word of God has a standard. If you cannot abide by it. then stick with ur court and traditional marriage cos there, no one will ask if you had pre-marital sex or better still, go where such behaviour is condone.
A lot of people have thrown caution to the wind and have establish what they deem fit for themselves. Nobody is saying u have to be a virgin to be married but for crying out loud, no born again christian preparing for marriage should engage in premarital sex, where is self-discipline? it just shows that one is not grounded in the things of God and how are you going 2 handle ur marriage dat way.Odas should learn 4rm dem

playdude:
Seriously speaking, i need to follow you. You just made my day. Marriage ain't for kids, if you cannot abstain fron premarital sex before marriage, you are highly indisciplined. Simple. Any pastor that joins them is pushing them to hell fire with himself.
Bastards disgracing Christ. God will soon judge and visit them all.

Acidosis:

Any Pastor that agree to join the man and the woman under 'this condition' is not a Pastor but a hungry tout who called himself into Ministry for personal gains..

The cancelled event can't be re-arranged/re-scheduled if both party seek the face of God.. (Repentance)
what are you talking about is the pastor judge? If na me I won't forgive him laye laye. Do you know the damage he is about to do to a happy new couple to be. Anyway God will still help them to find favour elsewhere and I blame them for confessing there fcvkup.

..also any Judge that wish to preside over the matter can as well join them in a customary court, not a Church..

Church nor be beer parlour, oga.


Well I really do not blame you.. The new generation Pastors have turned the bible up-side and down.. Nowadays, I wonder where they get their messages.. I keep wondering if they are still preaching the same word Paul, and all the Apostles died for...

May God save us all..

andymofia: Dear all, I have a friend whose wedding was billed for Saturday, September 21, 2013, but his pastor on interviewing the bride, discovered that they have had premarital sex and cancelled the wedding. Now the young man is confused and do not know what to do. I just hope he doesn't do something nasty. what do you advise?

drnoel:
Who is getting married? The young man or the pastor? U people in nigeria give face to things and people that are irrelevant.

Annie09: I think this problem should have been trashed out during their marriage counselling sessions and let them take the disciplinary actions instead of waiting till six days before the wedding.

jarsofclay: @marley
this is not a case of `he that is without sin', it's simply a case of gross disobedient to the word of God and authority cos i'm certain this two people are very aware of the church protocol but just want to fulfil their desires.wud it hav been so difficult to wait?My church wud have just given them their blessing but not wed them.We don't practice religion, we just live the christ life.

achi4u: Did u say "pushing them to hell fire?"

which hell fire again in this our burning country?

And ur name is Playdude?...wetin u dey play sef?

Acidosis:

Any Pastor that agree to join the man and the woman under 'this condition' is not a Pastor but a hungry tout who called himself into Ministry for personal gains..

The cancelled event can't be re-arranged/re-scheduled if both party seek the face of God.. (Repentance)

..also any Judge that wish to preside over the matter can as well join them in a customary court, not a Church..

Church nor be beer parlour, oga.


Well I really do not blame you.. The new generation Pastors have turned the bible up-side and down.. Nowadays, I wonder where they get their messages.. I keep wondering if they are still preaching the same word Paul, and all the Apostles died for...

May God save us all..

Annie09: I think this problem should have been trashed out during their marriage counselling sessions and let them take the disciplinary actions instead of waiting till six days before the wedding

ogugua88:

How is that sane? So nonvirgins or those who've engaged in premarital sex should never be married?

fluid26:

I disagree. The pastor is wrong on this one. Does it mean the girl would never get married? Or perhaps, he expects them to go 'delete' the embryo and return for approval? Or he is hoping for a natural occurrence to 'reset' the anomaly...a miscarriage ? Blighted ovum? Pre-emclampsia? What exactly did he advise as solution to something he identified as a problem.

He claims to be serving Jesus, but he doesn't fully understand the circumstances surrounding the birth of his Christ. Mary was pregnant before marriage [the method of conception here is irrelevant]. She was rejected by society, yet she was eventually married to Joseph. Why? It was Joseph who had the final say, not the society, not the church leaders.

What if the said girl had told the pastor that her conception was immaculate (like Mary's)? What if it was through IVF or other proven non-sex-related method? Would the pastor react differently?

I hate pastors and their ridiculously low mental capacity. Even if he lacks knowledge, he should borrow some common sense from past events and save himself this embarrassment.

LewsTherin: Like Deols said, what is bad is bad. Calling the pastor a hypocrite does not remove from the face that the couple did the wrong thing. Saying we should not judge is just a means of passing off responsibility and accountability. Demanding forgiveness from the pastor for the couple does not mean the erring couple should not be disciplined according to the tenets of the congregation they joined and agreed to follow.

What pains me the most are the statements of not judging and because everyone does it then it's ok. It is not. And the Bible expects christians to hold each other accountable more so as their actions impact on the wider faith.

Besides, where did the pastor say the couple will never be married in his church? Cancelling or postponing is required for the couple to reflect soberly on their mistakes and seed forgiveness FROM GOD. When that is done, the wedding can commence. Allowing them to just brush it aside in the name of "forgiving and not judging" only creates an environment where the couple think they have nothing to repent from.

No matter what the bulk of Nairalanders believe, pre-marital sex is seen as sin before God. No amount of rationalizing will change that.