Joshthefirst: does this mean that the consequence of that possibility is overridden? God exists. You claim he is a possibility. We claim to really know him as he is. The fact that you think he is not proved(which is false and foolish according to romans) will not stop him from judging you for your sins.

Wrong.


A possiblity without a single shred of evidence or reasonable probability has no consequence.

It is possible that a plane could fall on my house as i am typing. Very low probability and no evidence that it will happen....hence, my building isnt protected with anti-aircraft technology

My position is thus: I do not believe a conscious supernatural being exists within our universe. I accept that it is possible there's a Creator/Initiator though.

Just like characters in a story can not interact with their author, and the author doesn't exist in their world.

@ logicboy:
South korea is NOT an exact replica of north korea without communism.

Logicboy03:


Italo; you claim that atheist countries are good, what about your atheist North Korea that is backwards and full of suffering?

Logicboy; yes, Nrth Korea is atheistic but also a communist state. It is the communism that is mostly responible for their woes. Tell me, isnt it true that the only "atheistic" countries with serious problems/instability are those with communist qualities? China, North Korea etc? Why not call South Korea (an exact replica of North Korea without communism)?

Italo; atheist North Korea is bad....bla bla bla



^^^^
How is it possible to have a reasonable communication with someone who wants to bash atheism at all costs?

I know say you go like to change topic. Lol.

italo:

Really interesting!

Evil brain & Logicboy: ' I am an Atheist.'

Evil Brain & Logicboy: 'Atheism is disbelief in God.'

Evil Brain & Logicboy: 'I believe God possibly exists. '

LMAO!

Now does any other Atheist want to switch sides like them before it's too late?

Thank you for this. This is the grammatical problem of christian apologists.


Illustration;

It is possible that I could be hit by a bus tommorrow but I disbelieve that it will happen


^^^

Now compare this with a disbelief in God;


It is possible that Zeus exists but I do not believe in Zues
It is possible that God exists but I do not believe in God.

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Somehow, Italo ignores basic commonsense to claim victory over atheists.

Do you people see how desperation can lead you to foolishness?

aManFromMars: My position is thus: I do not believe a conscious supernatural being exists within our universe. I accept that it is possible there's a Creator/Initiator though.

Just like characters in a story can not interact with their author, and the author doesn't exist in their world.

Ah! Amanfrommars too.

Is this a new movement or I just never noticed?

Joshthefirst: @ logicboy:
South korea is NOT an exact replica of north korea without atheism.

Read my comment again....FAIL!!!

italo:

Ah! Amanfrommars too.

Is this a new movement or I just never noticed?

Dont mind him....the guy will say anything to appease christians.

Please focus on atheists with conviction

italo:

Ah! Amanfrommars too.

Is this a new movement or I just never noticed?

That has always been my position. You just never noticed.

italo:


I ask: where is your evidence for your BELIEF that there is no God?

The same place you put your evidence for your BELIEF that there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster.

italo:

Keyword: possibility.

Do you also NOW believe God possibly exists?

Do you also NOW believe FSM possibly exists?

Logicboy03:



Thank you for this. This is the grammatical problem of christian apologists.


Illustration;

It is possible that I could be hit by a bus tommorrow but I disbelieve that it will happen


^^^

Now compare this with a disbelief in God;


It is possible that Zeus exists but I do not believe in Zues
It is possible that God exists but I do not believe in God.

===========================


Somehow, Italo ignores basic commonsense to claim victory over atheists.

Do you people see how desperation can lead you to foolishness?

You used to assert "God doesnt exist."

Now you're are saying "he possibly exists but I just dont believe in him."

I also believe jazz exists, I just dont believe in it."

Lol...

italo:

The guy amazes me, to say the least. Same response to every question.

Q. Is Atheist North Korea better than Religious Nigeria to live in?

Mazaje: Which of the many gods?

Q. Is it rational to assert something without evidence?

Mazaje: Which of the many gods?

Q. Where do you live?

Mazaje: Which of ..........?

Does he read before posting at all?

Why does such a simple question disturb you?

Why not answer him?

Logicboy03:


Wrong.


A possiblity without a single shred of evidence or reasonable probability has no consequence.

It is possible that a plane could fall on my house as i am typing. Very low probability and no evidence that it will happen....hence, my building isnt protected with anti-aircraft technology

I wonder if someone was thinking this in his house when the dana aircraft crashed into it. He must have been thinking "there is extremely low probability that an aircraft will crash into my house" those in the WTC on 9/11 must have also dismissed a terrorist plane crashing into their building too. This is just an example.
Smh

aManFromMars:
That has always been my position. You just never noticed.

Cool. You have new converts: Evil brain & Logicboy.

This thread was started to evaluate those who assert God's 'non-existence.' Not you.

Post modified

Logicboy03:


Read my comment again....FAIL!!!

Logicboy03:


Wrong.


A possiblity without a single shred of evidence or reasonable probability has no consequence.

It is possible that a plane could fall on my house as i am typing. Very low probability and no evidence that it will happen....hence, my building isnt protected with anti-aircraft technology

If I tell christians that it is possible that Beyonce and Rihanna will both spend next weekend in my bed, they will run about shouting that Alfa is dating Beyonce and Rihanna. It is amazing how a xtian brain works.

italo:

This thread is not for Theists to prove their claims.

It is to show that Atheists cant prove their claim with empirical evidence, yet they claim that anyone who believes something without empirical evidence is irrational.

That makes Atheism irrational.

What is this Italo? Pls tell me the claim atheists make. Maybe we can start from there. . .

I don de pity for you sef

Alfa Seltzer:

Do you also NOW believe FSM possibly exists?

Alfa Seltzer:

The same place you put your evidence for your BELIEF that there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I have never made any assertions nor do I have any opinions about FSM.

I simply dont care about it.

Alfa Seltzer:

If I tell christians that it is possible that Beyonce and Rihanna will both spend next weekend in my bed, they will run about shouting that Alfa is dating Beyonce and Rihanna. It is amazing how a xtian brain works.

this is just a pathetic attempt at mockery

italo:

You used to assert "God doesnt exist."

Now you're are saying "he possibly exists but I just dont believe in him."

I also believe jazz exists, I just dont believe in it."

Lol...

Understand this.....I take an agnostic position to gods in general

However, when it comes to the 2 gods that I am conversant with (Yaweh and Allah), I make an exception to say that they do not exist.

Why? Because from the claims of being omnipotent, they cannot exist. The have self-refuting qualities. Omnipotence is a self refuting paradox-p it can not exist.


Now, this is just me- many atheists will just be ok to disbelieve and take the agnostic position all through....

italo:

I have never made any assertions nor do I have any opinions about FSM.

I simply dont care about it.

That's irrational.

Alfa Seltzer:

Why does such a simple question disturb you?

Why not answer him?

I will answer him in the right thread. For this thread, we expect Atheists to do some answering for once.

So far, they are scoring ZERO.

They are even changing stance.

All of a sudden, some believe God possibly exists.

You better join this movement before its too late.

Alfa Seltzer:

If I tell christians that it is possible that Beyonce and Rihanna will both spend next weekend in my bed, they will run about shouting that Alfa is dating Beyonce and Rihanna. It is amazing how a xtian brain works.

*new convert alert?*

I hear you say "possible."

Mr Troll: What is this Italo? Pls tell me the claim atheists make. Maybe we can start from there. . .

I don de pity for you sef

"God doesnt exist."

Joshthefirst: I wonder if someone was thinking this in his house when the dana aircraft crashed into it. He must have been thinking "there is extremely low probability that an aircraft will crash into my house" those in the WTC on 9/11 must have also dismissed a terrorist plane crashing into their building too. This is just an example.
Smh

lol......I was waiting for this.

Remember, there were two conditions

-low probability
-not a single shred of evidence


Well, there is historical evidence for people using planes as weapons to blow up stuff. There was low probability of the airplane crash but evidence that planes could hit buildings

I think I should have given a more abstract example that resonates with god
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Now God doesnt pass either of these conditions

Logicboy03:



Understand this.....I take an agnostic position to gods in general

However, when it comes to the 2 gods that I am conversant with (Yaweh and Allah), I make an exception to say that they do not exist.

Why? Because from the claims of being omnipotent, they cannot exist. The have self-refuting qualities. Omnipotence is a self refuting paradox-p it can not exist.


Now, this is just me- many atheists will just be ok to disbelieve and take the agnostic position all through....

ROFLMAO!!!!

Logicboy, you no go kee me.

Yet you call Christians deluded all the time.

italo:

ROFLMAO!!!!

Logicboy, you no go kee me.

Yet you call Christians deluded all the time.

When you grow sense, please tell me what part of my post is deluded.

Dont make claims without evidence or substance

Logicboy03:


lol......I was waiting for this.

Remember, there were two conditions

-low probability
-not a single shred of evidence


Well, there is historical evidence for people using planes as weapons to blow up stuff. There was low probability of the airplane crash but evidence that planes could hit buildings

I think I should have given a more abstract example that resonates with god
==================================


Now God doesnt pass either of these conditions

I was commenting on the example you gave for pete's sake.

Here's a question: could it be that you willfully ignore the evidences and sureties of God's existence?

italo:

Cool. You have new converts: Evil brain & Logicboy.

This thread was started to evaluate those who assert God's 'non-existence.' Not you.

Lol @ new converts.

GOD is an ambiguous word. By God, what exactly do you mean? A conscious being that dictates and rules the universe? A summation of our ignorance? A being that initiated our universe and got killed in the Big Bang?

Your argument fails to show how claiming 'a' doesn't exist is irrational, when we have no evidence for 'a'. What's truly irrational is claiming 'a' exists without any proof and asking others to disprove you.

Joshthefirst: I was commenting on the example you gave for pete's sake.

Here's a question: could it be that you willfully ignore the evidences and sureties of God's existence?

There is no single evidence for God.


I wish there was but there isnt....be honest.

Joshthefirst: I was commenting on the example you gave for pete's sake.

Here's a question: could it be that you willfully ignore the evidences and sureties of God's existence?

What are these 'evidence'?