Illuminatus:
Safeguarding in the sense that if someone is attacked for his sexuality, he could go and report it to the law enforcement without being thrown in jail.
Yes, Nigerian's law enforcement doesn't uphold human rights. It is saddening that ordinary Nigerians don't too.

Sagamite:

It "looks" like? You can't prove it or at least argue it?

What part of the 6 steps do you think is a conspiracy theory?

You think the book was never written? You think that is a conspiracy theory?

Mynd_44:
Can you prove that it was?

Sagamite:

You are the one saying it is a conspiracy theory.

Prove it.

Mynd_44:
You're the one who choose to submit that as "evidence" bro. You should not come here with half truths. If you are going to make a post based on something that is supposedly happening, you should be able to bring everything to the table.

The fact that even the person who wrote the article does not appear to have seen the book as they could not take anything from this "imaginary" book. So if you who presented it cannot proof it's existence, why should I do that for you?

Illuminatus:
I don't understand.

Wu Zetian:

I think I already answered a question like yours on an old thread.....

Mynd_44: What I find weird in this argument is that 1,500 species of animals show Homosexual behaviours but only one has Homophobia.

Is that not to show that being a homosexual somewhat natural among some people.

Wu Zetian: *edited post*

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Uyi Iredia:

I'll respond to your points

* on inc€$t

High probability of deformity also applies to certain people with latent genetic disordered who aren't related. The child the inc€$tous couple could be aborted till a normal one is gotten, also advances in genetoc cod possibly reduce the risk which I suspect is overestimated. Besides they might not even want kids.

* on b€$tiality

Humans have had consensual relationships with animals as pets. Some take it further so they are deeply emotionally tied to their pets so mych so the pet death's causes grief. Please watch evolution vs God on YouTube to see how some atheists value a pet's life over a humans. Now some take it even further and engage in con$€nsual s€x with the animal. Trust me if it's not consensual the animal would ferociously attack the human especially if it's a strong mammal eg a fog, a horse. The pet owner isn't harming anyone else. Its one's body, one's pet and their $€x.

* on n€crophilia

Playing my emotions here will not suffice. As a dead body I wouldn't give a f*ck what happens to it, only living dogs would. If a couple (married or not) would want to engage in n€crophilia ifnone of them dies, would you deem it moral and would you grant them that right ?

Finally I must say your answers lack merit. For the simple reason that aspects of each sexual behavior you coopted to dismiss my talk of them harming no one have been paralleled in dismissing gays. Yet here we are. If them Yanks wanna have gay marriage, and so redefine marriage in the process, why would they still hold the moral and legal line against other 'oddities' eg polygamy, inc€$t and b€$tiality. They harm no one and have rights as much as gays too.

Illuminatus:
Have you ever heard that someone was arrested for having sex with his dog in private? Have you ever that a couple were beaten in public because they're first cousins?
It is obviously that the lot of you think homosexuality is unnatural, religiously wrong and some of you just can't understand it.
It is funny, actually, seeing as a similar situation existed not so long ago in American. The North and the South were arguing on whether slavery is legally wrong or not.
Some Humans feed on misery and have a dangerous ideology. Not so long ago, our grandfathers' killed twins and buried slaves with their masters, alive. These ideas are now generally accepted to be wrong. But in those days, they were held up as norms, traditions, the obvious and natural way of life.
The Church not so long ago carried out a massive hunt in England for witches. Hundreds of women were killed and burnt based on the premise that someone thought they were witches. The church now admits that it was wrong, years later, with a lot of innocent women already murdered.
My point is that often in our defense of what we value as our culture, ideas or accepted mode of conduct, we make mistakes. I won't force you guys to accept that gay people mean you no harm. But I implore you to understand that...gay people are still humans, going on their lives - their sexuality just a part, faucet of their personality - they eat, breath, shit, sleep and feel as we all do. They love and have sex too. Live and let live.
Nican in Your Heart

peterphd: @sagamite

Why should homosexuality be criminalised? Its human nature and if its shown on TV why not simply use your remote? Are you saying if it were to be shown on animal planet you would want the channel to be shut down? I just don't understand the grounds on which you want this thing criminalised.

Sagamite:

It should be criminalised because it is perversion and disgusting.

Mynd_44:
Preventing and disgusting to you bro. A lot of people find atheism and worshipping idols preventing and disgusting but you can't call for it being made illegal cos people have the right to live as they want.

Sagamite:

Religious right is seen as a fundamental human right.

If you can find enough people disgusted by Atheism and Idol worshipping to the point of getting it banned, then feel free.

So you can call for it being illegal if you decide it is no more a fundamental human right.

Mynd_44:
And who says their sexuality is not their right? If we can say people can decide to be celibate why can't they decide to be homosexual?

Sagamite:

Who says?

The Society.

When people decide to be celibate, what do you plan to do to stop them?

Sagamite:

Who says?

The Society.

When people decide to be celibate, what do you plan to do to stop them?

aManFromMars:
Rape them



*sorry, just had to do that. make i read the thread.

Wu Zetian: @Mynd: YES!!! Educate those mor0ns!

Mynd_44:
What society? Who forms this "society" you are talking of? Did you take a vote of everyone in the "society" to decide what is good?

When did the society start deciding people's private and personal affairs?

So if the "society" decide to go back to treating blacks as inferior they will be right right?

Sagamite:

I asked you a question:

When people decide to be celibate, what do you plan to do to stop them?

Mynd_44:
Considering that I asked a question first, you owe me an answer.

Mynd_44:
And who says their sexuality is not their right? If we can say people can decide to be celibate why can't they decide to be homosexual?

Sagamite:

Who says?

The Society.

When people decide to be celibate, what do you plan to do to stop them?

Mynd_44: I asked two questions


you replied with this



and you say I am running away from your questions?
**confused**

And on the celibacy issue, what do I care if they are celibate? The pope is celibate and I don't give any less of an eff. The same way I don't care if someone is gay or lesbian.

It does not concern me.

Sagamite:

So why did you ask me the stewpid question:

"If we can say people can decide to be celibate why can't they decide to be homosexual?"

You just wanted to waste my time with senseless questions?