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Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Nobody: 5:15pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
CyberG:Don't mind Gull. The shrapnels that got into his skull have remained there. They really need to be removed. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Nobody: 5:24pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
shy-mmex:Ahmed Tinubu and other Yoruba people that knew GEJ is using this and others you've mentioned as well as the reconstruction of the Lagos-Ibadan Expressway as baits to get them have expressed some reservation on the SNC. It's unfortunate only the South West, Edo State and some few states are seeing the handwriting on the wall. 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Arysexy(m): 5:26pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
I don't know wot this tribally laced thread is doing in politics section. Clarke whom d yorubas av been cursing ever since gave them d banana they wanted and all of a sudden he spoke d truth. Yoruba are known loud mouths and chest beaters! Ojukwu's sarcasm dat 'awo was d best president Nigeria NEVER had' was used by d chest beaters to hail dia villain god, d killer of women and children and a suicide coward. They claim sophisticated politically, is sophistication playing tribal politics? He used tribalism to woo zik's victorious member to his AG, by brainwashing them day zik an easterner can't win southn this is d genesis of tribal poilitics. They claim to be highly educated, yet prof kenneth dike was d first indigenous vc after d white left. Njoku was d first vc of unilag, where wia d educated yorubas then? Keep living in d past when d statistics presently says otherwise. Yoruba delusion and loud mouth knows no bound, smart politicians knows how to get at yorubas, dats y Tinubu is riding on them using awoism, a corrupt polithiefian for dat matter, do I need to tell u dat clarke is smarter than u all, he knows wot he is doing. Go read clarke's stand on yorubas b4 now then come back. Attack dogs, I await ur reply, u invited us to this thread from page one, lets get down d mud. 2 Likes |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by geeez: 5:28pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
dozzybaba: Who is Awo The man responsible for the developments in today's Western Nigeria The man is the reason why you see a visit to Lagos the same way we treat a trip to New York 7 Likes |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Katsumoto: 5:33pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Arysexy: I don't know wot this tribally laced thread is doing in politics section. 'In political terms, he would be considered an adversary of the igbos given the intense rivalry between him and Dr Nnamdi Azikwe. As a leader of the modern cast, he has left Nigeria standards which are indelible, standards beside which future aspirants to public leadership can be eternally measured. He was firm, articulate, painstaking, and uncompromising. He was, for a long time, the only Nigerian leader who enunciated principles and played down personalities. He was a brilliant political administrator and a most erudite teacher. He not only identified himself wholly with the aspirations of the Yoruba people of Nigeria but also he was able to convince the Yoruba people of Nigeria that he and only he epitomized the highest point of their political aspirations and consciousness. He was loved, he was feared but above all he belonged to the people he professed to lead. At his death I had the singular honour of proposing for him the epitaph that has endured – ‘he was the best President that Nigeria never had’. Many have wondered what I meant by this, but I believe the statement was clear. Nigeria would have benefited from his presidency because of his inate presidential qualities. Nigeria must continually regret that he never, for many reasons, had the opportunity to serve at the presidential level. Awo was a leader of great stature. He was a leader who was eminently successful. That he did not fulfill a presidential ambition cannot detract from his leadership, and us, poor us, who were not his people, must continue, to regret that our own leaders had not led us as he did his people or achieved for us as he did for his people. He perceived his job as leading his people and God his soul. He did a lot for them. Whenever he saw an opportunity for his people, he went for it. He had a dream for the Yorubas and was steadfast in the pursuit of that dream. He knew where he was going and took his people with him without deceit. That is why he will remain immortal in the area of his influence.' Emeka Ojukwu - "Because I Am Involved" page 159- 160. Is that clear enough for you? For the second bolded part, Igbos produced the first VCs because Igbbos were in power with the North. Same reason why Ironsi was made GOC even though the outgoing British GOC recommended Ogundipe. You really need to gain some knowledge and increase your logical reasoning before you dive into debates. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Arysexy(m): 5:36pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
geeez: Which of the bridges, roads and structures in lagos did awo build? Was lagos d capital of western nigeria or ibadan? Even at dat ibadan stil remains shyt covered wit rustic corrugated zincs. I know say una weak to chase igbos out of lagos, u can only whine and complain, igbos are in lagos bc awaolowo said so. Deal with it. 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Nobody: 5:37pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
DerideGull:Any person could have appraoched the UN, but Ojukwu wouldn't want this because of his selfishness to rule a sovereign state which became clear when he declare Biafra three days after 12 states were created on 27-05-1967. He was pained because Rivers (today's Rivers and Bayelsa states) and South Eastern (today's Cross-River and Akwa Ibom states) states were carved out of the defunct Eastern Region. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by hercules07: 5:42pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Arysexy: Educate yourself, Western Nigeria was up to Ebute Meta, the Island was the capital not Lagos State. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Arysexy(m): 5:42pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Katsumoto: STORY dat touches yoruba's heart. Anyway, Goodmorning mr katsumoto. Hope ur ego is massaged by my goodmorning? 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Nobody: 5:44pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Cusubaba: Did i hear u said Yorubas opened the doors of education and development to Igbo's? Guy ur poky olodo. The first Vice Cancellor of University of Ibadan which is in yoruba land is an Igbo man. The first Nigeriaa to trade with European is an Igbo man ( Jaja Nwachukwu). The first richest man in Nigeria is an Igbo man ( Linus Ojukwu) The first President of Nigeria is an Igbo man. The first millitary president of Nigeria is an Igbo man. The first Senete president of Nigeria is an Igbo. The first graduate to enter Nigeria military force is an Igbo man( Odimegwu Ojukwu). shut up poky! The time Igbos open eyes, Yorubas were blind in their cave called Oduduwa Republic( banana).And you call this achievement. Awolowo's achievement are there in: 1. The first skyscraper - the 25 storey Cocoa House, Ibadan. 2. The first olympic size stadium in Africa, Liberty Stadium, Ibadan. 3. Ikeja Industrial Estate. 4. The first TV station in Africa. This feat was achieved before France and Spain in Europe. 3 Likes |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Katsumoto: 5:47pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Arysexy: Try to know the difference between Lagos Island and Lagos State first. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by whitecat007: 5:48pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
I wish to like this all day! Seun has no idea what he's up against in ibos. He of all people should know by now that ibos don't like anything Yoruba and will kill this forum if given the chance. So Seun, you are not pleasing anyone by putting ibos as mods, they will still call you names whenever they want. Rhino.5dm: 2 Likes |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Arysexy(m): 5:51pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
hercules07: U need d education, dude. Tell me d development awolowo brot to lagos dat made it a newyork for d igbos as d animal I quoted wrote. Which of d bridges in lagos did awo build? Lagos island was capital of Nigeria bt capital teritory extended beyond lag island. All ur efforts to re-write history shall be twarted. Only d truth can set u free. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by nagoma(m): 5:54pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
He said what everybody knows. This grumpy old man is one tribalist Nigerians can do without. Now he thinks Yoruba's will like him and his cretin son for praising Awolowo. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by hercules07: 5:57pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Arysexy: How can capital territory extend beyond the island when the other area had a government in place, the industrial estates on the mainland were his work. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Arysexy(m): 5:58pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
whitecat007: I wish to like this all day! So says d biggest bigot in dis forum. Yorubas are d greatest enemy of ndigbo, I used to doubt it bt since I joned this forum, I began to see it displayed in comments. When igbos are killed in d north, NL yoruba bigots pop champagne and taunt d igbos, they lament and wish d igbos leave lagos yet claim one nigeria. U wish igbo mods are not here so dat ur yoruba mods will be banning them as they use to do before seun balanced things. Keep whinning. Nkita! 2 Likes |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Katsumoto: 6:00pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Arysexy: That's all you can say after you have been publicly shamed? |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Arysexy(m): 6:04pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Here comes d chest beater again, young man u need to understand ojukwu. When u read ojukwu literally u get injured. I greeted u 'good morning' dat was ojukwu's sacarsm to ken saro wiwa in d evening and I hope u know literally goodmorning is a greeting, bt go figure wot it meant. U shamed urself. 3 Likes |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by 0monnakoda: 6:05pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
hercules07: Katsumoto: geeez: What is the subject matter of this thread. Man should lead dogs .When dogs leads man their is chaos 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by hercules07: 6:08pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
0monnakoda: Hmmm |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Arysexy(m): 6:13pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
0monnakoda: Very unfortunate dat dogs have been leading men in this thread ryt from page 1. Thats wia water enterd opi ugbogiri. Hope the dogs take back seat and allow men discuss, otherwise there will be greater chaos here. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Nobody: 6:15pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Arysexy: So far, your defences hold no water. ! No amount of historical twist you can make here that can ever undermine Awo's legendary contributions IN the whole SW states. Run from pillar to posts, any other Nigerian asides the Ibhoes on NL I so far know wiont acknowledge any other effort as much as Awo's legacies in his SW. E.Clarke is a living witness, So you & your Ibhoes may go wild for all I care. ! |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by nagoma(m): 6:16pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
0monnakoda: The other issue is weighting. Weight referes to he relative share of federal legislature or power to determine presidency. The arbitrary creation of states has advantage certain regions more than others and this needs to be redressed. The problem is on what basis or what "starting point". No one gives away advantage without a fight or for nothing. What basis is good question.it needs to be redefined. When a duckling thinks he is swan. A minority tribe in a small enclave think they are equal to a region. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Shakiratuu: 6:32pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Shame you let omonakonda off the hook so lightly. You were rebutting his ill thought out arguments brilliantly and maintained focus eve though he was throwing back hand jibes at you but once he said sorry for clearly trying to debase you, you let him off the hook. You were doing do well. In future, don't let a menial apology without substance throw you off course. You are a brilliant debater. St_Black: |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Katsumoto: 6:35pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
5. In the West the grant of Regional self-government has on balance been justified. The Action Group Government, led by the Premier, Chief Awolowo, have proved reasonable and competent administrators and, although with the steady run-down of the cadre of overseas officers there is bound to be some decline in standards of administration, the advanced educational programme of the Region should in time provide sufficient replacements. The Premier aspires to national leadership and has to this end formed a close alliance with the principal Opposition elements in the North and East. 6. In the East government has seriously run down. Dr. Azikiwe (" Zik ", leader of the N.C.N.C. remains in power as the personification of Ibo tribalism, but his chronic unwillingness to tolerate around him men of independence of mind has brought into being a Regional Executive Council, almost all of whom are nonentities. Some of the Federal Ministers drawn from his Party, notably Dr. Mbadiwe, have recently lost their posts through constant but so far ineffective warfare against his personal dictatorship of party affairs. His star may be on the wane. At present he has no serious rival as leader of the Ibos, who are much the largest race in the Region, and although it would be much healthier for Nigeria if his hand were removed from the helm, the time has passed when Her Majesty's Government could take any effective action to hasten this process. He must be left to the disillusionment of his own people. 7. The vast Northern Region is still well behind the others in " progress." Two-thirds of its 18 million people are strict Muslims, accepting the authority of their Emirs. Educational progress is still slow and there is no prospect for a generation of the Region being able to replace from its own resources the overseas officers who have served them so well. The North fears and dislikes the more educated Southerners and if they were not economically bound to the Federation would be glad to be quit of it. The Emirs have for the most part recognised that they must come to terms with democracy and support the party at present in power, the N.P.C. The Premier, the Sardauna of Sokoto, is himself of a princely family. A Memorendum on Nigeria's Constitutional Conference (1957-1958) and Background to the Willink Commission By Alan Lennox-Boyd, Secretary of State for the Colonies (1954-1959), United Kingdom 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by 0monnakoda: 6:37pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
nagoma:Lol That is funny but that is why there should be devolution of powers and resource control. Is it right to go swanning about with a duckling's resources. The key issue is that I don't think there can be true negotiation if there is no secession option. Though I don't think secession should be immediate. If a group are not able to reach a compromise then they should be allowed to conduct a plebiscite on secession with perhaps a ten year timetable.This would have to be UN sanctioned. A situation where minorities are terrorized by majorities is not ideal and I don't think minorities should hold the majority to ransom but people should have a right to opt in or out. I am not opposed e.g to Biafra but the use of force was a mistake. It is most likely that if the North does not make significant compromise Nigeria will split. For one we have to scrap all forms of Sharia in the political space and resource transfer schemes from South to North. Again resource control can be phased so we increase from 13 to 14 to 15 ,16,17 etc year by year or a similar formula till we reach an agreed level and the rest shoul go to the FG I don't support the idea of oil revenue from Rivers forming the basis for the budget of Oyo State or Kebbi State. Any State that cannot fund itself should be merged with others |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Nobody: 6:56pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
0monnakoda: So far in world history, hardly has a country splitted without the eventuality of a war. No matter what, a dissolution sanctioned by the UN remains "almost" impracticable, or dont you think so? |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Arysexy(m): 6:59pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
St_Black:. Who cares? Clarke told u ppl wot u needed to hear so as to agree and reach a common groind which is Resource control. Get that? 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by femogbangba: 7:01pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
St_Black: The option to secede is sort of a "bargaining tool"; secession will be the last resort if there is no agreeable compromise between all parties, but that option should fundamentally be on the table. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by 0monnakoda: 7:02pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
St_Black:Well war is possible and even likely but such is life. The Soviet Union did split up though without war but in the case of Nigeria I think war is very likely particularly as there are likely to be different foreign powers at play. That is why I say the North need to think deeply. I don't think force can hold us together for ever and so we need to either find genuine unity or split and face the pangs that that will bring. After a war you can focus on development. Our present "No war No peace" condition is a lot worse than war. |
Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by Decryptor(m): 7:09pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Arysexy: .Don't mind these cowards! Who doesn't know that the easiest way to kill a yoruba man is to rub his ego, speak his language and them WHAM!!! Slash his head with a cutlass 2 Likes |
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