DrummaBoy:

Welcome to the world of tithe discuss. This is the reason for opening the thread, to be able to discuss tithing without reaching for each other jugular. That is why the rules are there.

Gombs:

with anti tithers, insults are imminent

frosbel:

what can be worse than insulting the children of God by telling them they are under a curse for not giving you and your MOGs their HARD EARNED MONEY.

Nothing beats this wickedness, that's why i will not join this discussion . I have no patience with ANYONE who peddles the GOSPEL for MONEY.

Gombs:



Truth is, you were never relevant in the discuss....please give sound minded brethren the chance to discuss.

Plz

frosbel:

what can be worse than insulting the children of God by telling them they are under a curse for not giving you and your MOGs their HARD EARNED MONEY.

Nothing beats this wickedness, that's why i will not join this discussion . I have no patience with ANYONE who peddles the GOSPEL for MONEY.

brainpulse: . If your assumed anger is most genuine I believe the passion should be tailored more to winning and converting perishing souls to the Kingdom of God, but you seldom do that. Instead you result into insulting Men of God you have not called nor creat in the name of fighting for God as the hallmark of the pharisees

frosbel:


What is insulting about exposing the TRUTH. Do you even know what an insult is ?

And yes, I have raised articles on the gospel and other Christian topics, but Nigeria is plagued with churches which are more like scam centers than places of worship and it is an urgent mission of ours to speak the truth and expose them with the objective to set captives free from the clutches of these people.

What is the point of getting millions saved when they end up getting trapped in these centers for deception.

frosbel:

what can be worse than insulting the children of God by telling them they are under a curse for not giving you and your MOGs their HARD EARNED MONEY.

Nothing beats this wickedness, that's why i will not join this discussion . I have no patience with ANYONE who peddles the GOSPEL for MONEY.

brainpulse: . If you are truely led in your course by the spirit of God there are proper and orderly ways of doing things that will not portray the qualities of the spirit of anger, disrespect, disaffection, ungentleness which are the spirit of the lastdays. I believe you need more of the infilling of the spirit of God if you are truely Born again

brainpulse: . If you are truely led in your course by the spirit of God there are proper and orderly ways of doing things that will not portray the qualities of the spirit of anger, disrespect, disaffection, ungentleness which are the spirit of the lastdays. I believe you need more of the infilling of the spirit of God if you are truely Born again

brainpulse: . If you are truely led in your course by the spirit of God there are proper and orderly ways of doing things that will not portray the qualities of the spirit of anger, disrespect, disaffection, ungentleness which are the spirit of the lastdays. I believe you need more of the infilling of the spirit of God if you are truely Born again

frosbel:

last time I checked Jesus was not gentle towards those who turned his fathers house into a den of robbers.

brainpulse: . But the church is not your own father's house, leave it to him. It takes the Holyspirit to convince a man not frosbel. We state our facts and prayerfully do the rest, if we don't have hidden agenda.

seemylife: Logging in as anti-tither

Pastor Kun:

You fail to realise the level of havoc this false tithe doctrine is causing in the church today. In the time of Jesus he expressed his anger by physically assaulting those who turned religion into a money making venture like tithe preachers today. So our open rebuke still falls below Christ's standard going by scriptures.

brainpulse: . So if you were in Christ's shoe on that night at the garden of gethsemane you would have encouraged peter to fight on. Learn and study more about christ.

rudedough:

In God's anger, he cursed the Priests in Malachi chapter 3, not the tithers.

Malachi 3:8-9 Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. "But you ask, 'How are we robbing you?' "In tithes and offerings” 9 You are under a curse - your whole nation - because you are robbing me.

God was cursing the high priests who were stealing his offering and sacrificing blind, lame, rotten and unhealthy animals to him. Little wonder how your pastors twisted the bible just to rob you of 10% of your paycheck.

I challenge the pope to show me otherwise in the bible where God asked Pastors to receive tithes and where God cursed the tithers in Malachi. [/b]

Gabriel_sylar: Ol boy some people sabi yarn oooooo

Rhymeyjohn: @Drummaboy, am in. Lets begin, on a different thread, one on which no passerby can bag into and give bashing comments to any side. I want it to be five presentations at once, not ten. The thread shouldn't be on the frontpage for the period of the discussion.
@Image, Prepare your points too, and be ready to defend mine.
God bless

4. Both sides in one post shall be presenting 10 points each on thier position on tithing. Each point shall be named after the lead discussants on each side. Thus for Rhymeyjohn, his points shall be listed: R1, R2, R3,...., R10. Miwerds, his points will be M1, M2, M3,...., M10. Here is an example for the post by Rhymey

Example:

R1: Tithe is an Eternal Principle (Heb 20:20; Mark 24:2; ....)

R2: Tithe is compulsory (John 25:1; Ezekiel 60:70;....)

Then Miwerds shall make his own presentation in one post M1,...; along with their scriptural positions.

This is neccesary so that we do not repeat points already discussed. Also, if in the procees of discussing point R2, point R7 had been trashed out, by the time you get to point R7, the two groups could agree to skip it.

When a group makes a presentation and the four steps of response is exhausted, the other group will make their own presentation. So for this discuss, I suggest that Ryhmejohn presents his R1 first; to be followed by Miwerds M1; and the discuss will continue in that manner.

5. Presentation will be in this format

a. Presenting a point, say R1 by Ryhmey, titled Presenting R1. When you are done with your presentation, you should state "end"

b. A rebuttal of R1 by Miwerd/Candour titled Rebutting R1.

c. Then a Response to Rebuttal by Rhymey, titled Response to Rebuttal R1.

d. Then a response to response by Miwerds/Candour titled Response to Response R1.

This way each post on the discuss has a name and can be refered to easily later if there is a need to do so. Also, after a point has been trashed out in this four steps outlined above, it should not be revisited again. Not that the point cannot be mentioned in a latter discuss, but that this particular discuss will be considered finished at this point and there will be no need to refer to it again. This is to discourage un-ending hammering of a point. Therefore participants are expected to do a thorough work in the two opportunities they have to present on a point.

6. Time must be permitted for each group to make their presentations. If anyone is handicapped and cannot make his/her presentation as quickly as possible, he/she may refer to the other to help him do it or tell the house when he intends to come and make the presentation.

7. Anybody among the two can make a presentation, however, he/she is expected to title his presentation properly.

8. This discuss is not intended to last a few days; it will probably take some months; so participants are expected to make the required sacrifice.

rudedough: I'm an Atheist but I've read the bible thoroughly to understand it competently. I will want to show Christians what their bible said about tithing using bible quotations. And in case anyone doubts, feel free to look at your bible yourself.

Deuteronomy 14:23 23 EAT the tithe....

frosbel:
[size=11pt]Now there is something very wrong when an 'ATHEIST' is more discerning than a Christian.

Mark Miwerds: It is time for me to sleep some. Be back in a few hours. God bless.

Joagbaje:

The tithe to be shared and eaten together in that scripture is a different 10% not the same as the animal one brought a to the priest. This particular one is like a love feast every 3 years

I can't believe this came from a supposed Christian without any bible quotation to support his statement.

Never mind, let me save you the trouble and show you that both the yearly tithing and the 3rd year tithing you're talking about said "EAT YOUR TITHE."

Deuteronomy 14:22-23

22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce EACH YEAR. 23 EAT THE TITHE...

Deuteronomy 14:28-29

28 At the end of EVERY THREE YEARS, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and EAT...

Any more defense?

Gombs:


I want to assume you wanted to quote frosbel!