Afam4eva: When they eventually gave Jonathan the power to become a substantive president, a lot of people were expecting him to cause a political revolution and this was what necessitated the protests by civil society groups for him to be made the substantive president. Some months after Jonathan was made the president, a lot of people were disappointed cos it seemed Jonathan was going the way of his predecessors and a lot of people called him a weak and ball-less president cos he was very slow at making decisions and they felt he was receiving order from God knows where. Over the years, i have watched Jonathan grow in confidence and it can be seen even in his boldness when being interviewed on TV. Today, Jonathan has become more bold by the day and it seems to be that he has started making decisions independent of those cabals that put him there. I think this is the first step of moving away from the status quo. We have seen the ramblings in the letter that OBJ wrote Jonathan.

omanzo02: How do u expect GEJ to live up to full expectation with all the distractions and effort sabotage thrown in his path?, The cabals won't give up without a fight and that what is going on, I foresaw the happening now in 2011, it's Nigerians that should rally round GEJ to keep the cabals at bay, being the president and the powers at it disposals are not enough to win against the cabals, only when Nigerians are behind him the cabals will understand the game is over.

Abagworo:


My reason for considering him a failure is exactly what you wrote above. People thought he would end corruption, tribalism and change Nigeria but his regime has turned out the worst in that. We expected a sincere SNC and not an SNC to discuss 2015 elections. Right now the country is more polarized than ever.

Yes he might bring about a bloody revolution sooner. Than expected because we are almost at the threshold. Obasanjo has exonerated himself from the wrath of the masses by repenting and writing a sensitive letter.

Afam4eva:
Can you pls explain the bolded. Was he not elected by Nigerians and does the constitution not allow for two terms? it's not like he's asking for 3rd term.

Like i said earlier, Jonathan became the governor of Bayelsa by chance and also became Nigeria's president by chance. He's not your typical Nigerian politician. If all things were equall, then Jonathan would have probably being a local government chairman. Whichever way you look at it, he's a break from the norm politically.

take dat: Yes, he was elected by Nigerians and also qualified to contest for a second term! If you are in doubt of his lust for power, why did he engage in anti-party activities and secretly supported the candidates of other parties in the governorship elections held in Edo, Anambra and Ondo states and even OBJ made mention of how he entered into a pact with Tinubu for him to win the votes from SW? You can argue that those he supported were the popular candidates but for the fact that he was willing to throw his party members under the bus to gain the support of those not in his party speaks volume.



Nothing in this world happens by chance. Did he by chance become a deputy Governor? Did he not play along with OBJ to impeach Alams for him to become the Governor? Wasn't he compensated with the Vice presidential slot because he was loyal and supported OBJ's third term agenda? GEJ is a good schemer and your conventional Nigerian politician.

eGuerrilla:

The view you've canvassed here is akin to squeezing blood from a stone. To suggest it is pedestrian and an assault on our intelligence, is putting it mildly.

What political vision did GEJ articulate as a deputy governor? What were his achievements as a governor?

After close to 4 years as substantive president, surely, even you must know the ruse about about a cabal has been overspent.

Afam4eva: @Omo_Tier1
If you don't understand the premise upon which this thread was created then i can't help you. I'm not here to argue about what Jonathan has done in sectors of the economy but to focus on the political implication of Jonathan being Nigeria's president. The problem with us is that we're always in a hurry to start reaping the dividends of democracy without first considering the behemoth political challenges. These challenges are the bane of economic development. Not until we get the politics right before every other thing will fall into place.

Afam4eva: What is the guarantee that voting APC will not be a reflection of the PDP years considering the fact that the same characters we have always clamored against are finding themselves to the APC. Let's learn to tell ourselves the truth.

Abagworo:


My reason for considering him a failure is exactly what you wrote above. People thought he would end corruption, tribalism and change Nigeria but his regime has turned out the worst in that. We expected a sincere SNC and not an SNC to discuss 2015 elections. Right now the country is more polarized than ever.

Yes he might bring about a bloody revolution sooner. Than expected because we are almost at the threshold. Obasanjo has exonerated himself from the wrath of the masses by repenting and writing a sensitive letter.

juman: "Jonathan Will Be The Catalyst Of Change In Nigeria"

Funny.

After two and half years out of four years.

Afam4eva:
I think you have to first prove to the house how JOnathan supported candidates of other parties in Edo, Anambra and Ondo states. Also show us proof that he had a pact with Tinubu to win votes from the SW I also want to know how Tinubu influenced my vote in the SW.

take dat: I have nothing to prove because it is public knowledge. Even if you do not believe me, at least OBJ who acknowledged that fact would have seen his hidden hand in those elections. Have you asked why PDP was quick to congratulate the winners in those elections even when their candidates rejected the results? A case study is the Anambra election where the party's flagbearer was disenfranchised, yet the PDP was quick to tell Nigerians that the election was free and fair. A party is 'morally' binding to support its candidates till the end.

On Tinubu influencing the SW votes for GEJ. Its an allegation made by OBJ and also from other quarters, yet Tinubu and GEJ have not come out to dispel such allegation.

Omo_Tier1:

I wish you had the courage and intellectual sagacity to respond in a constructive manner the points I buttress in my rebuttal of your opening post, alas, all you could come up with are another lame and diversionary excuses.

The essence of national government is to confront political and economic challenges that prevent the people from living life to the fullest. Jonathan's government is not the first in the world to face political challenges and will not be the last.

It is absurd you claimed that political challenges is the bane of economic development that has ravaged Nigeria especially during Jonathan's reign.

Do you really think if Jonathan had embarked upon visionary and exemplary development strides in every facet of the economy, upholding the rule of law, dealing harshly with corruption and corrupt individuals, the resulting political landscape will not fall in-line?

Jonathan had all the good will in the world to effect changes and redefine governance in Nigeria, but alas, like a mediocre, He decided to play cheap, engaging in ethnic 'rulership', befriending those who are known to the laws of the land as innate criminals, and promoting sectional hatred, using the kill and divide rule to retain power at all cost.

No other government in the history of Nigeria has enjoyed so much goodwill as Jonathan's government. In fact Nigerians were hitherto willing to lay their lives to see His government take bold political decisions that will affect the economic fortunes of Nigeria, but to their chagrin, there was no corresponding action by the one they thought was a proper commander in chief.

cocoduck:
Shut up liar you are among those that called him all sorts of names even when he was still a vice president

ndcide:


you feel the SNC is not sincere , but you believe the election should be free and fair.
An election that GEJ will be participating in? We want to restructure Nigeria. but we have to look beyond political parties.

Only through massive corruption will APC win the 2015 presidential election. if they do, they 'LL hav,e to pay back with corruption .

I'm angry with APC for going against the SNC simply because they think they got 2015 in the bag. some of us know that Social can't win in 2015. and the problem of Nigeria can't be solved by APC.

Afam4eva:
So, because OBJ acknowledged it, it's the truth. The problem with some of you Nigerians is that it's difficult to please you folks. So, because Jonathan congratulated the opponents of his party after an election, it means he's fraternizing with them. Would you have preferred that he cancelled the election so that you guys will see an opportunity to label him him a dictator.

take dat: And yet you claim you are not a toady! Because you have failed to acknowledge it does not make it false. Are you expecting the President to come out openly to declare his support for a candidate who isn't a member of his party? Did I even mention the President in the post you quoted? Even if his enemy wins an election, he will have to congratulate him or her in his official capacity as President.


You claim he is a break from the norm yet he associates himself more with the wandering minstrels of yesteryears, class of recycled and corrupt politicians than the ordinary Nigerians who voted him into power. I can as well say, Theodore Orji who fell out with his godfather is a break from the past. I have nothing against GEJ and I believe he will win the next election but he is not different from other Nigerian politicians

Afam4eva:
So, in what capacity did he congratulate those guys? As an LGA chairman?

Who are these old politicians that he associates himself with? He seemed to have fallen out with the who's who and the creme de la cream of the political dynasty and that to me is a right step in the right direction. I also think the Theodore Orji analogy does not fit because Theo only broke himself from one man just like Chime did to Chimaroake and Orji Uzor Kalu. We're talking of political titans whose political career started pre and post independence and who have always been at the forefront of designing the political architecture that fits their selfish ambition.

take dat: No, in his capacity as Councillor! I won't engage you any further on GEJ's anti-party activities, its obvious you are blind to the truth.


How many of the creme de la creme did GEJ fall out with? The only one is OBJ. IBB was never in Jonathan's camp, AbdulSalam and Danjuma are not politicians and they still associate themselves with Jonathan when called upon. Because OBJ copied the letter to them does not indicate that they are at loggerheads with GEJ. He only copied them as statesmen, in fact, he also copied Alex Ekweme or is Ekweme an enemy of Jonathan?

Now I know you are unserious. So Anenih, Mantu, Umaru Dikko, Tukur, Zwingina, Edwin Clark, Jerry Gana, Bode George and many others are not old politicians? Are these people not his associates?

take dat: And yet you claim you are not a toady! Because you have failed to acknowledge it does not make it false. Are you expecting the President to come out openly to declare his support for a candidate who isn't a member of his party? Did I even mention the President in the post you quoted? Even if his enemy wins an election, he will have to congratulate him or her in his official capacity as President.


You claim he is a break from the norm yet he associates himself more with the wandering minstrels of yesteryears, class of recycled and corrupt politicians than the ordinary Nigerians who voted him into power. I can as well say, Theodore Orji who fell out with his godfather is a break from the past. I have nothing against GEJ and I believe he will win the next election but he is not different from other Nigerian politicians

Afam4eva:
I never said Jonathan is perfect and i admitted that much. I'm only happy about the possibility of a few set of people holding the nation to ransom. If Jonathan can make Obasanjo to start writing him a letter about his leadership then you know something is changing. Despite the fact that the likes of IBB were not really Jonathan's fans, but they have started speaking out recently more than ever before because things are not going as they thought it would.

Sincere 9gerian: Fantastic write up, @Afam4eva. But I hate the fact that you started from e defensive point (the I'm not a sycophant bla, bla,bla). The propaganda and onslaught from Tinubu warriors have pushed many of you into defensive positions. This is an open and anonymous forum for goodness sake and everyone should be able to express him or herself without fear or favour. If anyone does not agree with the position of another, he or she should challenge that position with SUPERIOR argument.

What happens on this forum, which is very unfortunate, is that once an ID expresses any opinion that is contrary to that of Tinubu slaves, rather than challenge that opinion with SUPERIOR argument, Tinubu slaves will resort to blackmail- it is either they accuse the ID of being a sycophant or being a paid poster.

I dont think the response to the blackmail from Tinubu slaves is adopting a defensive position like you've done. For me, the best form of defence is attack and that is what I will continue to do. Because left to Tinubu slaves, GEJ should have no supporters online. The fools expect all of us to queue behind them and worship their master Tinubu.

Just imagine what this forum would have been like if not for the likes of yours sincerely, Taharqa and others that have pushed back the evil group called Tinubu warriors?

@Topic, President Jonathan indeed represents a breath of fresh air. I say this not because he is perfect or that he has done all things perfectly but so far he is the BEST leader we've ever had in the last 3 decades.

Working with people like Akinwumi Adeshina, Okonjo Iweala, Prof Nebo, Prof Onyebuchi Chukwu, Olusegun Aganga, Mrs Omobola Johnson, Stella Oduah, etc, GEJ govt represents nothing but fresh air.

Afam4eva..,cant you feel the fresh air in our elections since 2010? Cant you see that the YOUWIN programme is the first programme in the history of Nigeria where people can get grants from govt on MERIT? Have you asked yourself why Nigeria Railways was dilapidated when GEJ came to power? The old railways given to us by the British was left to rot away and no new railways could be completed in 50 solid years? But just in 3 years, the GEJ govt is about to complete Abuja to Kaduna standard railway.

Didnt you notice how the PHCN was transparently privatised? Right before our eyes, 14 successor companies of PHCN was successfuly privatised without any acrimony or court cases. Now compare with the messy privatisation process of previous govt. Many of the companies privatised by OBJ have been crippled by court cases.

djon78:

Sincere you are making a valid point, Akinwumi Adesina worshiped at my church some sundays ago to thank God for the progress he had achieved and one statement he made that shocked me was that he never knew the president from any where, that it was the president that found him where he was at work and look what he is doing. Infact let me go on spiritual dimension the kind of prayer being waged in the spirit these dark evil forces have already been defeated, God of heavens is in control. When GEJ went on a spiritual journey to Israel I knew that from the eyes of unseen that GEJ is Gods anointed and all those fighting him will be confounded, I am using these medium to warn them that if they know the judgement of God that will come uppon them, you will see in few weeks time, sons of belial that has caused pain on this nation by their wickedness for the past 40 years, God has arisen to judge and this is word for the president by the psamist The Lord is my Light and my salvation whom shall I fear, the Lord is the stronghold of my life of whom shall I be afraid, when my enemies came to eat my flesh they were consumed. Thus says God the creator of the ends of the earth.

Sincere 9gerian:
Afam4eva..,cant you feel the fresh air in our elections since 2010? [b]Cant you see that the YOUWIN programme is the first programme in the history of Nigeria where people can get grants from govt on MERIT? [/b]Have you asked yourself why Nigeria Railways was dilapidated when GEJ came to power? The old railways given to us by the British was left to rot away and no new railways could be completed in 50 solid years? But just in 3 years, the GEJ govt is about to complete Abuja to Kaduna standard railway.

Didnt you notice how the PHCN was transparently privatised? Right before our eyes, 14 successor companies of PHCN was successfuly privatised without any acrimony or court cases. Now compare with the messy privatisation process of previous govt. Many of the companies privatised by OBJ have been crippled by court cases.