maxell:


May thunder strike McCain's behind for referring to Obama as "that one". oloshi

My sentiments exactly,. . . . . . . . .  

did u see the way he was pacing, he was clearly

nervous and restless to say the least, the polls can attest to that. . . . . .

Tayo-D:

@Plus_Queen,
$500? I pay $250 a month for family coverage! You see what I mena now. With McCain's plan, you will probably be saving $250 at least every month while getting the same service. See how they are ripping us off with these mandates?

I'm not limited to any doctors or a group of doctors.
I don't need a referral to see a specialist.
I can go get second opinions

Remember McCain wants to tax your employer with the right hand and hand you a so called taxcredit from the other.
[b]REMEMBER IT IS A TAX CREDIT NOT A CHECK OF $5,000.[/b]Big big difference if you make more than the average person.

Not true. You can buy health insurance on your own today from any place you want as a self employed person,the question is ,are there physicians in your area who would take it? That is the question.

You can't buy any employer insurance out of State. As long as the mandates and limitations are taking out of the way, things will get better.

You are very funny o. So if I receive treatement, my hospital will not collect the money because it is from another state?

Abeg, I dey go sleep. Got to be at work tomorrow.

How cold can someone get. . . . . .

Mccain stormed out after the whole thing not even paying any

attention to members of the audience,

Well thank God for Obama and Michelle, they were so warm,  

took pictures, signed autographs, and spoke to the people afterwards, . . . . . . . . .

Of course that is not what I am saying. What your employer is paying for now is also not treatment but coverage. The money paid last month was not for treatment I received, but for coverage in case of illness. It is simply the same thing. Just like car insurance, you can choose to have basic coverage, liability or comprehensive while also choosing your deductible. These options are not available now.

For instance, our health coverage pays for a yearly medical check-up. Now my Doctor told me 2 years agao that I am as healthy as can be and do not need to se him every year. So why am I paying for what I know I wont need for another 3 years or thereabout? My dental coverage pays for a vist every quarter and I know I only visited once last year, and still trying to sort out my vist this year. Why is all that money going to waste?

 

Going to waste?
would you rather wait until you get a diagnosis?

_{God forbid}

My brother that his plan will not work

TOYOSI20:

How cold can someone get. . . . . .

Mccain stormed out after the whole thing not even paying any

attention to members of the audience,

Well thank God for Obama and Michelle, they were so warm,

took pictures, signed autographs, and spoke to the people afterwards, . . . . . . . . .

That's due to the agony of his perceived defeat

I'm not limited to any doctors or a group of doctors.
I don't need a referral to see a specialist.
I can go get second opinions

I have no such limitations as well.

Remember McCain wants to tax your employer with the right hand and hand you a so called taxcredit from the other.
REMEMBER IT IS A TAX CREDIT NOT A CHECK OF $5,000.Big big difference if you make more than the average person.

The only way that the employer can avoid that tax is to pay you the money as salary. This way, he can also get the tax write-offs. How can I lose for winning? I get more money from my work and still get cheaper and more relevant health coverage. Why should he hand you a check? This means someone can get the check and not use it for health purposes. Rather, you get a $5,000 tax write-off like you do for day-care and other expenses. This is much more prudent.

Tayo-D:

You can't buy any employer insurance out of State. As long as the mandates and limitations are taking out of the way, things will get better.

You are very funny o. So if I receive treatement, my hospital will not collect the money because it is from another state?

Abeg, I dey go sleep. Got to be at work tomorrow.

Don't you know that physicians individually sign up with insurance companies and routinely pick up and drop those they want or don't want?
Why do you think the receptionist asks for yourcoverage when you call up to make an appt?
There are offices for instance that don't take HMO Plans.
By that I mean you can call and they will not schedule you an appt because your insurance coverage is useless to them.
There are hospitals that don't take HMO plans.
Thre are physicians that'll take your HMO plan for treatment but you cannot use their in house labs or scans or even radiology units
why?
They can pick and choose what they can take and send you to some community hospital for your urine tests because it's not worth their while
My brother go and sleep.
Health insurance is not as simple as you and McCain see it.

Tayo-D:

I have no such limitations as well.
The only way that the employer can avoid that tax is to pay you the money as salary. This way, he can also get the tax write-offs. How can I lose for winning? I get more money from my work and still get cheaper and more relevant health coverage. Why should he hand you a check? This means someone can get the check and not use it for health purposes. Rather, you get a $5,000 tax write-off like you do for day-care and other expenses. This is much more prudent.

I can also see a physician in minnepolis if I choose to
That tax write off of $5,000 to me and my husband who earn a good living would perhaps amount to $50 by the time they do all the computations.

maxell:

That's due to the agony of his perceived defeat

So true, we were all so impressed as to the way, Obama sat on the stool,

smiled and he just exuded so much confidence and charisma. . . . .

Now that's what I'm looking for in a future President, . . . . . . .

Calmness and the ability to take charge no matter what. . . . . . .

You sound like an ass kisser.  I can't believe you can sit on your couch and spit such crap without even consulting your common sense before posting.

How does confidently seating on the couch translate into being a great president?  Are we now serving up the presidency on an ikoko platter, or what?  What next?  Does the way he sits on the shitter in the toilet make him a great president too?


Obama's defense teams are out in full force tonight.  The majority of you Obama lovers on nairaland amuse me.  Most of you didn't even know who Sarah Palin was, but decided to call her a 'bitch' for joining forces with McCain. I'm sure if 70% of you are asked to serve up some convincing rationales for shining Obama's ass, all you can come up with is that "he's black and a great speaker. . . . oh, and he signs autographs with his wife" .


Politics indeed.

TOYOSI20:

So true, we were all so impressed as to the way, Obama sat on the stool,

smiled and he just exuded so much confidence and charisma. . . . .

Now that's what I'm looking for in a future President, . . . . . . .

Calmness and the ability to take charge no matter what. . . . . . .

Kai
The guy exuded sex appeal like crazy!

The class difference was huge.

McCain looked like a beat up Volvo wagon trying to catch up with a brand new Lexus.

volvo ke?
he looked like a beat up 404

TOYOSI20:

So true, we were all so impressed as to the way, Obama sat on the stool,

smiled and he just exuded so much confidence and charisma. . . . .

Now that's what I'm looking for in a future President, . . . . . . .

Calmness and the ability to take charge no matter what. . . . . . .

Indeed sweetie

All the polls have Obama leading:


CNN debate poll: Obama beats McCain

CNN's poll of people who watched the second presidential debate showed 54 percent saying Democrat Barack Obama won and 30 percent thinking Republican John McCain was the victor.

UPDATE
A CBS poll of uncommitted voters found: 40 percent identified Obama as the winner; 26 percent said McCain won, while 35 percent said it was a tie.

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/150842.asp

goodnite people.

Even Fox has Obama in front of the polls

plus_Queen:

Kai
The guy exuded sex appeal like crazy!

For sure,

maxell:

Indeed sweetie

All the polls have Obama leading:


CNN debate poll: Obama beats McCain

CNN's poll of people who watched the second presidential debate showed 54 percent saying Democrat Barack Obama won and 30 percent thinking Republican John McCain was the victor.

UPDATE
A CBS poll of uncommitted voters found: 40 percent identified Obama as the winner; 26 percent said McCain won, while 35 percent said it was a tie.

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/150842.asp

Wow, u right, I'm checking those polls out rite now. . ,

My favorite quotes of the debate:

Well, you know, Sen. McCain, in the last debate and today, again, suggested that I don't understand. It's true. There are some things I don't understand.

I don't understand how we ended up invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, while Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda are setting up base camps and safe havens to train terrorists to attack us.

That was Sen. McCain's judgment and it was the wrong judgment.

Well, I think it should be a right for every American. In a country as wealthy as ours, for us to have people who are going bankrupt because they can't pay their medical bills -- for my mother to die of cancer at the age of 53 and have to spend the last months of her life in the hospital room arguing with insurance companies because they're saying that this may be a pre-existing condition and they don't have to pay her treatment, there's something fundamentally wrong about that.

H2O2:

You sound like an ass kisser. I can't believe you can sit on your couch and spit such crap without even consulting your common sense before posting.

How does confidently seating on the couch translate into being a great president? Are we now serving up the presidency on an ikoko platter, or what? What next? Does the way he sits on the shitter in the toilet make him a great president too?


Obama's defense teams are out in full force tonight. The majority of you Obama lovers on nairaland amuse me. Most of you didn't even know who Sarah Palin was, but decided to call her a 'bitch' for joining forces with McCain. I'm sure if 70% of you are asked to serve up some convincing rationales for shining Obama's ass, all you can come up with is that "he's black and a great speaker. . . . oh, and he signs autographs with his wife" .


Politics indeed.

Frustrated much? Most of John McCain's strong points revolve around foreign policy. He's 72 years old, he's been there and done that. However, he represents nothing more than the failed foreign policies of the last decade and he hasn't said anything to prove otherwise.

Do you honestly think that (for example) Iran's president Ahmadinejad or Venezuela's Chavez give two bleeps about whether the United States talks to them or not? Of course they don't, they'll carry on doing whatever they do, regardless of whether we sit down and at least try to talk to them or not. At the end of the day, it's our national security (along with our allies) at risk, not theirs.

What Barack Obama lacks in foreign policy experience, he more than makes up for in his intelligence, ability to learn (fast) and ability to listen. I honestly feel that Obama would be far more well received by the international community and would be in a better position to rebuild damaged relationships with our allies, along with possibly reducing the number of enemies we have. On the other hand, John McCain doesn't inspire me with much confidence. He strikes me as someone who would refuse to talk to a foreign leader for the most trivial of matters (i.e. a minor disagreement). During the debates, he barely looked at Barack Obama and even referred to him as "that one".

Right back at ya.

U too cute. . . .

Thank you, but you are the one who is cute.

thanks. . . . . .

blackspade:

Frustrated much? Most of John McCain's strong points revolve around foreign policy. He's 72 years old, he's been there and done that. However, he represents nothing more than the failed foreign policies of the last decade and he hasn't said anything to prove otherwise.

Do you honestly think that (for example) Iran's president Ahmadinejad or Venezuela's Chavez give two bleeps about whether the United States talks to them or not? Of course they don't, they'll carry on doing whatever they do, regardless of whether we sit down and at least try to talk to them or not. At the end of the day, it's our national security (along with our allies) at risk, not theirs.

What Barack Obama lacks in foreign policy experience, he more than makes up for in his intelligence, ability to learn (fast) and ability to listen. I honestly feel that Obama would be far more well received by the international community and would be in a better position to rebuild damaged relationships with our allies, along with possibly reducing the number of enemies we have. On the other hand, John McCain doesn't inspire me with much confidence. He strikes me as someone who would refuse to talk to a foreign leader for the most trivial of matters (i.e. a minor disagreement). During the debates, he barely looked at Barack Obama and even referred to him as "that one".

You are a typical antsy Obama idolizer. Whenever you hear the word 'Obama' your paranoia rises like a tide of waves. . . you jump out of your seat like a ball of balloon about to explode. Frustration has nothing to do with the statement I made and I stand corrected.  It's not like either of the two who assume the throne will instantaneously right the ship, so why should I care deeply enough to be frustrated?  I'm just a bit perturbed by the comments flowing out of the mouths of you and your fellow Obama worshippers, who believe that Obama's every move speaks of presidency: if he brushes his hair, they say he brushes like a president, if he yawns, they say he yawns like a president. 
Now, before you go into an in-depth defensive exlcusive about your reasons for Obama being a more suitable candidate, I think you should know that I didn't discredit his credentials.  All I said was, and I repeat, some people just need to find better reasons for voting for the dude.

In response to the rest of your post, and particularly your critique of McCain: I don't think I need to mention that I don't care much about your opinions of the guy, although I respect your opinions.  Your feelings are different from those of others.  The most glaring phrase in your post has been bolded above.  While you're voting because you feel--something called a hunch-- that Obama can repair the damaged relationship with your allies, others prefer McCain because he has significant experience on foreign policies that they would much rather rely on, than hearsay.

Lastly, I'm not looking to receive an array of kiss emoticons from Toyosi for this entry, but please (you and others) strap yourself tightly to a seat and don't be stripped of your common sense and ability to differentiate 2 from 1 because a black man is running for president. The guy ain't Jesus.

Politics indeed.

_exeunt

Even if you are all saying you like one person or the other, the most important are the votes that Americans make online,

@blackspade,

Well, I think it should be a right for every American.

Okay, all our constitutional lawyers are encouraged to wade in. Is health care a right or is it a responsibility as McCain suggested? The apparent perception of what it is determines what policy a candidate will propose.

Can we get some contributions please!

Tayo-D:

Okay, all our constitutional lawyers are encouraged to wade in. Is health care a right or is it a responsibility as McCain suggested? The apparent perception of what it is determines what policy a candidate will propose.

Can we get some contributions please!

I can offer some contributions. . . . . Thank God I live in Europe. . . .

Do you know that America spends more than twice as much per person as Britain does on Healthcare?. . . .  does the free market really reduce prices as far as health is concerned?. . the evidence would suggest not. . private healthcare is on average £40 a month for gold cover in Britain. . . . . . how much do you guys pay again?. . . . the fact is that public healthcare brings down the price of private healthcare in Britain. . . . whilst a fully privatised Healthcare allows costs to roam wild. . . . this is an indirect taxation on the American people. . . . drugs are more expensive in USA. . . . infact, everything to do with health is. . . . it is obvious that your model isn't working.

The fact is that insurance companies are skimming away money that should all be put into the Healthcare system. . . . .on average, how much Insurance is actually spent on Healthcare. . . . I can bet you 40% of that money does not go toward health costs. . . . this is simple Mathematics. . . . in Britain, we pay a certain amount of tax for our Healthcare. . . . all of that money is spent on Health. . . . in America, you pay for Healthcare and insurance companies skim off 40% as profits on their balance sheet. . . . who is making sense here?. . . .to me, this is just another tax, and a heafty uneccessary one at that. . . .no wonder you guys always complain about Medicaid. . . . the fact is that if you take away the free market, universal Healthcare becomes cheaper. . . . . I repeat, Medicaid is not the true cost of Universal Healthcare. . . . under Universal Healthcare, you will pay less in "tax apportioned for healthcare" than you do for your premium.


Annual healthcare spending per capita

. . . . . . so much for creating a free market for a public good. . . .Britain’s NHS has, without fear of challenge, one distinction. It is the best-buy model of health care in the Western world in the sense that it manages to offer a comprehensive coverage of the entire population at the least cost as measured by the proportion of the national income devoted to health care. . . . http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/reprint/4/1/41.pdf . . . Yankee need to catch up to Europe. . . . that's why British conservatives, including Margaret Thatcher support health care as an absolute right of citizenry

McCain didn’t looked at Obama at anytime during either debate, he just won’t make eye contact at all. McCain came out strong but fizzled shortly after. But I don’t think his trademark sarcasm worked much last night. Obama showed strength during the fiscal part of the debate and that is what American’s are focused on right now. But I do agree that Buffet would probably be the best man for the job as Secretary of Treasury because it wouldn’t be about politics really it would be about saving the economy just as I believe Mayor Bloomberg has tried to accomplish for NY since 9-11.

Obama did sound exasperated when McCain accused him of being rash in threatening to invade Pakistan, but when Obama gained his composure I felt he rattled McCain. I loved when Obama called him out about America being a military superpower when our nation is in an economic shambles… touche! Obama 08

Obama is clearly the man needed to move the country forward. McSame/crypt keeper is just out of touch and quite frankly hard to watch and listen to.

How can your campaign slogan be ‘Country First’ and you choose Palin as your VP choice? That’s an oxymoron; put this country first by possibly putting an inexperienced person that close to running this country. Give me a break Mr.


I can’t wait to see the final debate Oct 15th. Count down until Nov 4th!

tope2000:

But I do agree that Buffet would probably be the best man for the job as Secretary of Treasury because it wouldn’t be about politics really it would be about saving the economy just as I believe Mayor Bloomberg has tried to accomplish for NY since 9-11.

Nobody has asked Buffet if he wants the job. . . . they are just calling his name up and down any and anyhow. . . . .you think Buffet has time for that kind of job when he has his investors to think about?. . . . besides, he is too old. . . and public office doesn't pay well enough.

@Ibime,

You didn't addrress the issue I raised. Is healthcare a constitutional right? We know of the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Through the first ammendment, we talk about the right to free speech. So under what constituion is health care regarded as a constitutional right?