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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nobody: 7:35pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
bushdoc9919: My point is that: nano silver isn't a new drug. It's an effective antibacterial drug and no different from whatever antibiotics they might be giving them now. And since it has no side effects, why no try it on one or two of the dying ones? It isn't for all Nigerians, just those infected with the incurable virus that can't get zmapp. Or you want them to wait till they die for a zmapp that's non-existent at the moment? |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by soulglo: 7:57pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
shymexx: It is not that easy. Silver has severe reactions to other drugs. Any other drug that has been offered are being given under close supervision. They have been studied extensively specifically for Ebola and how it might react with other issues that might arise as a result of Ebola. Colloidal silver is basically a cure all that could kill the already very sick people. The problem with most Nigerians is that they always look for short cuts. Just generally lazy mentally. These sick people do not even have running water in these quarantine clinics even though it's proven that good hygiene etc is necessary to curb this monster. With all the money allocated these people are basically still defecating with no water to flush toilets. These are the issues. It is not pumping them with something that has not been researched. No known dosage. No research done specifically for Ebola. 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by rudepen(m): 8:23pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
Unless we gain our mental n physcological independence.... This nation is goin nowhr.... Our souls r still colonised., |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Sweetlemon(f): 8:50pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
I don't think this is about APC or PDP. I think we are the ones turning it to politics. However they should sha give the drugs a trial just to shut some people up. |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Houstency(m): 9:33pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Houstency(m): 9:33pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
Pataki: Foolish Nigerians. |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by awo666(m): 9:33pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
emmydeep: So Lagos state APC government rejected Nigeria's found Nanosilver simple because America told them not to accept it? |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nobody: 9:42pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
Symphony007: Some people mumu no be small!! What concerns APC and PDP in matters of health? Or is that how partisan your brains have gotten? Zmapp has been tested on both monkeys and humans and has proved to work with side effects. Now you want the government to give this new drug that has neither been tested or has no success track record on nigerians? Do you know the side effects, you people are advocating nigerian ebola patients be used as lab rat, and when they are and there is catastrophic after effects even worse than ebola, who will help us? Who? We don't even know the name or company of this fictitious "nigerian scientist in diaspora" that sent the drug. Since we're so desperate as will try anything, why don't we get all our ebola patients into a lab and start injecting them with every chemical compound we can find. Who knows, one might work....thanks man...such a number of Nigerians think on emotions rather than facts...NANO silver has never been an antiviral. the closest use of it for human is as a dietary supplement... and some ignorant guys up there are relating this to a APC- PDP feud. Nigerians sometimes make me angry with our seemingly retrogressed reasoning. can we ever move on from giving a conspiracy theory to anything not to our favour? 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by chrisblack: 1:43am On Aug 17, 2014 |
many Nigerians don't really understand why Americans are skeptical about giving out zmapp. the nature of Ebola has not really been well understood even by the American's. by giving out a drug for curing it without proper clinical trials can lead to a mutation which might lead from the virus been transferred from body fluid's to airborne which will become worse this is an issues of global correlation. the experimental drug as not really been proven even the nano silver. all that ave been said is showing sings of improvement. we need to be very careful not to created a version that may become worse.ethical standards are very important.just because we want to save a few we end up creating an Ebola strain that is drug resistant or which metamorphosed into an airborne strain.pls we need to think 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by porka: 2:49am On Aug 17, 2014 |
lekanolas: The Lagos State Government has declared its resolve not to use any drug other than the American ZMAPP for the Ebola patients in its custody. Zmapp failed in treating a Spanish Priest. The patients' lives are already at risk. What is Lagos State government saying? |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by porka: 2:50am On Aug 17, 2014 |
chrisblack: many Nigerians don't really understand why Americans are skeptical about giving out zmapp. the nature of Ebola has not really been well understood even by the American's. by giving out a drug for curing it without proper clinical trials can lead to a mutation which might lead from the virus been transferred from body fluid's to airborne which will become worse this is an issues of global correlation. the experimental drug as not really been proven even the nano silver. all that ave been said is showing sings of improvement. we need to be very careful not to created a version that may become worse.ethical standards are very important.just because we want to save a few we end up creating an Ebola strain that is drug resistant or which metamorphosed into an airborne strain.pls we need to think Between that and patients' death which is more "ethical"? |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by HAH: 4:30am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Nano silver, the trial drug imported into the country on Thursday has been declared unfit and will not be administered to Ebola patients, Minister of health says. Professor Onyebuchi Chukwu said the experimental drug did not meet required standards, according to reports from TheCable. Speaking during a press conference at the Federal Nuero Psychiatric hospital at Yaba, Lagos on Saturday, the minister said other trial drugs were undergoing evaluation, and they could be used should they be found suitable eventually. “You will recall that last Thursday, I announced that we were ready to deploy an experimental drug, Nano Silver, if it was cleared by the national health research committee,” he said. “ Although, the drug had since last Thursday been made available to the emergency operation in Lagos, it had not been administered to any patient, because we were awaiting clearance from the national health research ethics committee. “I regret to inform you that the drug did not meet the requirements of the national health research ethic code. Accordingly, approval for its use was withheld. “I wish to inform you that other candidate drugs are currently being evaluated by the Treatment Research Group for EVD. As soon as any of the experimental drug is cleared and made available, we shall include it in the treatment regimen subject to the informed consent of the patient.” http://www.today.ng/news/ebola-trial-drug-nano-silver-unfit-for-treatment-chukwu/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ebola-trial-drug-nano-silver-unfit-for-treatment-chukwu 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Akexstinger(m): 6:59am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Sometimes u guys can just misfire anyhow without doing your research very well. Who says Nanosilver was discovered by a nigerian? The drug was developed by an american and is yet to undergo certification by USFDA. And in some other countries where it has been certified, its used to fight some bacteria infections and as also pesticides. Is ebola a bacteria? The US has issued out their own advice that if use it, u are at your own risk. The drug has not even be tested on animals with ebola virus unlike ZMAPP and TKZ. Lagos state was right by openly rejecting it. That's the best thing to do. Do u know what it means that a patient died as a result of the drugs given to her? If ZMAPP was tested on africans first without testing it on whites, they would still complain and say "why must it black that should be tested first with ZMAPP serum". The US has offered to give TKZ and now africans are complaining that its the ZMAPP they want. Africans have their own problem. Maybe the Nanosilver might bed food to the virus when it is administered to an ebola infected patient and that will quicken his or her death |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nobody: 8:08am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Pataki: Foolish Nigerians.Nigerians truly have 2 wake up......If d drug hasn't been tested atleast on animals, hw do u expect LASG to 1st apply it on humans?....chai....dey asked 4 Zmapp simply cos it has been tested n is extremely positive 2wards curin it....wat whoever came up wit d drug shuld do is do d trials on animals, or perhaps consult any 1 who has d ebola n his family wuldnt mind d person being used 4 d test |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nobody: 8:15am On Aug 17, 2014 |
porka:Oga d drug has been deemed unfit 2 cure ebola....we shuldnt go frm fry-pan 2 fire....wise LASG |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by chinakobo(m): 11:24am On Aug 17, 2014 |
HAH: Google Dr Simon Agwale, he is a renowed virologist and molecular biologist. |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Originalsly: 11:24am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Sad. Nothing good can come out of Nigeria....in fact Africa. Everything from abroad...in fact America...is good. "From off of our feet they took the chain and now they put it on our brain" |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Originalsly: 11:36am On Aug 17, 2014 |
prinznazzy:Declared unfit by whom? If the US doesn't condemn nano silver how would they sell zmapp to the desperate African nations? Did the very people that condemn nano silver approve zmapp and are making it widely available for their citizens? Why not? So why are they soo willing to make it available to Africans? Zmapp and nano silver are both experimental ...why condemn the local more natural one and be so quick to embrace the pharmaceutical one? Always.... chew before you swallow. |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by mfm04622: 11:52am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Originalsly: Declared unfit by whom? If the US doesn't condemn nano silver how would they sell zmapp to the desperate African nations? Did the very people that condemn nano silver approve zmapp and are making it widely available for their citizens? Why not? So why are they soo willing to make it available to Africans? Zmapp and nano silver are both experimental ...why condemn the local more natural one and be so quick to embrace the pharmaceutical one? Always.... chew before you swallow. Declared unfit by the National Research Ethics Committee. That was information from Minister of Health. Lagos State was very right in rejecting the drug. Can we hail them instead of looking at everything through politics? 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by nora544: 12:01pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
chinakobo: This Dr. Simon Agwale has a PhD in Zoology about parasits he has never study virology or biology and it is a big difference. I feel he want to make money with this because he has a company in America so he could buy it cheap in america and sell it expensive in Nigeria. The Govenor of Lagos make the best! 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Eeser: 12:03pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
For all those shouting insults at APC or lagos state government check this out: "The minister of health, Professor Christian Onyebuchi Chukwu in a statement said that though the drug was approved for treatment and deployed to Lagos, it was not administered on any patient because it did not meet the requirements of the National Health Research Ethics code. “Accordingly, approval for its use was withheld by the National Health Research Ethics Committee,” he said." Sundaytrust newspaper. |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Eeser: 12:15pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
GodwinAjayi: NIGERIA NAVY 2014/2015You are here to scam people again huh. God fire you ass idiot. |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Originalsly: 2:43pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
mfm04622:You right!...I got fired up and posted my raw thoughts!...guess a shot of nano silver will calm me down! |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by infolekan(m): 12:50pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
phreakabit: The way people talk about viruses is unprecedented. I could probably count the number of viruses that there are CURES for on the fingers on my hand. If it's known that the pathogens can't survive in Oxygen and we should starve them of oxygen....what about our own cells? They should kill the patients with the virus right? Until Penicillin came....millions died from infections. The common cold has no vaccine or cure till date(and that's a viral infection too). HIV has no cure till now....billions have been invested in its research and it's still being invested. Malaria killed far more than you can count until the antimalarial came( it still does till now though due majorly to people's ignorance - they always present at the 11th hour to the hospital) |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by infolekan(m): 1:01pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
shymexx:Nano silver isn't your everyday antibiotics. Used topically(on the skin) for burn patients as silver nitrate ..it hasn't been tested on any human. It would be very wrong and unethical to just pick a drug from nowhere because someone from somewhere said it and start testing it on fellow human beings without any regard to its safety. The mortality for Ebola is 90% and this particular strain seems to be at 40%....why write them all off and use them as guinea pigs. What's wrong with giving quality supportive care and proven antibiotics instead of a drug whose name came from nowhere....no history to say it was developed for Ebola at anytime or tested for Ebola at anytime. The FG and the Minister of Health is to blame.....it is scandalous that our own ministry of health will just open his mouth and declare that they have a drug. I'll attach a picture of what they told us in the initial stage when we first though it never existed. 2 Likes
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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by cyunited(f): 10:30am On Aug 20, 2014 |
duni04:My dear,y ou dont have to be insultive in proving tour point if you actually have a point to prove.like théy sa y if you are right why should you be angry and if you are wrong you dont have a right to be angry. First,thé nano silver drug has been very effective in treating thé very deadly bacterial and Also has an effect on HIV,so where did the no antécédent or no research Côme in? Secondly,is d Zmap drug coming to Nigeria for free?d millions of dollars We are Göing to pay to thé américains why dont We pay it to a black man and help encouragé further research that could liberate US from thé constant begging from thé whites?testing is testing even thé zmap is still being tested ,so why cant We test nano silver too?thé priest that took d zmap died,others survived.and thé millions of dollars thé politicians dupe is it not more than this? Thirdly my dear,most whites has always used blacks as guinea pigs for their drugs,expired and fake products so for them to refuse us the drug is cos they know it could help us . Can thé minister of health tell US thé health requirement that thé drug failed?how and when it was conducted.why was it d day the USA ambassador visited him hé Saïd it?and no one has told US thé purpose of thé ambassadors visit to him at that time. Nobody is disputing thé existence of side effects even thé zmap and many other drugs has their side effect. My point lets try to promote our Own people and their products and depend less on thé whites.with this kind of mentality We will never be able to produce things that even We nigérians will value talk less of other people.it doesnt matter if sôme people décide to be insultive ,i have a right to my opinion and a right to post online if i so désire. |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by soulglo: 3:38am On Aug 21, 2014 |
cyunited:So basically let's support it simply because a Nigerian suggested it |
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by cyunited(f): 7:42am On Aug 21, 2014 |
soulglo:If y ou sa y soooooooo |
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