justwise:


How is the airline service itself? I will be using them very soon though I will not be layover overnight, 5hrs at Istanbul or less.

Believe me, Turkish Airlines is doing great, they are very competitive and striving to be amongst the best international airliners

Vicjustice:

Believe me, Turkish Airlines is doing great, they are very competitive and striving to be amongst the best international airliners

Ok, will see how it goes.

optimusprime2:

Brov,
it depends on which region you are in Turkey.
But regardless, your analysis about Turkish women being generally open minded to "Siyah Yabanciler" (Black Foreigners) is a lie. It can only appear so due to the following reasons, however it is not always the case;

1-They have exposure: Probably they have lived in or been to Europe, esp Germany that has a high number of Turkish people. In this case the Ladies are open minded and friendly towards black people, many at times you may even think they are not Turkish as such ladies act very European & could marry you easily.

2-They are educated to a high degree: Educated Turkish women are quite enlightened and act very differently from the uneducated Turkish women, they are quite helpful and understanding. These ones won't mind dating black people as they are more enlightened.

3-Can speak English: Turkish women who speak English tend to gravitate towards black people as they find our personalities rather bombastic and entertaining because they can understand us.

4-Are curious: Never misinterprete the curiosity of a Turkish lady as Love or attraction et al. They can be really curious as most of them have never seen a black person up close, so if you bump into one, they tend to want to know if all the myths they must have heard about Africans are true, I.e ,Sungel Saçlar (Spongy hair), Hayvan ar** (Beastly Dic*s) et al, so the bold ones may approach and touch you. But after the fascination is satisfied, it's back to normal.

5-Big City girls; Istanbul, Ankara & Antalya ladies have met a lot of foreigners and are quite comfortable with relating to black people.

However a majority of Turkish women are not exposed so they have a general perception of black people, they are generally reserved due to their culture and the religious ones will "Never" date a Black person.

Then again, the Turkish Ladies in North Cyprus are more friendly (Because most of them are Cypriots not Turkish) that is "IF" you can speak Turkish or "IF" they speak English- However it stops there, they will hardly, I repeat HARDLY date you and if you hover about them ignoring that fact, if you are not killed or mauled by a jealous Turkish Cypriot guy, you could get into big trouble most assuredly, because it is a Taboo for them to marry outside their religion or kinsman.

In your case I am very most assuredly sure, that the neighborhood girls who came to check your internet issues were university students or were Turkish Cypriots.
Perhaps you probably don't know, but Turkish Cypriots are enthusiastic about speaking/learning English with foreigners so they'd jump at any opportunity to show off their lingual skills in English esp the ones who lived abroad.

I speak Turkish quite well, and I have stayed in various regions of Turkey including TRNC for over 4years, so I know what I am talking about, and I understand a lot of subtlety on that regard.
Sometimes though, Love happens but @vicjustice is mostly right about his analysis on Turkish ladies, they will mostly not date a Black person due to stereotype, cultural reasons, and lack of exposure.

Alright bro

Vicjustice:

Many people would like to feel the skin of a snake, but that doesn't make them snake lovers.
You do not know me nor do you know my occupations or activities, so you can not say that I've only been on a trasit in Turkey for a day or two.
You might want to read my article on the thread in this link:
https://www.nairaland.com/94557/life-various-foreign-countries-experience

okay

optimusprime2:

Brov,
it depends on which region you are in Turkey.
But regardless, your analysis about Turkish women being generally open minded to "Siyah Yabanciler" (Black Foreigners) is a lie. It can only appear so due to the following reasons, however it is not always the case;

1-They have exposure: Probably they have lived in or been to Europe, esp Germany that has a high number of Turkish people. In this case the Ladies are open minded and friendly towards black people, many at times you may even think they are not Turkish as such ladies act very European & could marry you easily.

2-They are educated to a high degree: Educated Turkish women are quite enlightened and act very differently from the uneducated Turkish women, they are quite helpful and understanding. These ones won't mind dating black people as they are more enlightened.

3-Can speak English: Turkish women who speak English tend to gravitate towards black people as they find our personalities rather bombastic and entertaining because they can understand us.

4-Are curious: Never misinterprete the curiosity of a Turkish lady as Love or attraction et al. They can be really curious as most of them have never seen a black person up close, so if you bump into one, they tend to want to know if all the myths they must have heard about Africans are true, I.e ,Sungel Saçlar (Spongy hair), Hayvan ar** (Beastly Dic*s) et al, so the bold ones may approach and touch you. But after the fascination is satisfied, it's back to normal.

5-Big City girls; Istanbul, Ankara & Antalya ladies have met a lot of foreigners and are quite comfortable with relating to black people.

However a majority of Turkish women are not exposed so they have a general perception of black people, they are generally reserved due to their culture and the religious ones will "Never" date a Black person.

Then again, the Turkish Ladies in North Cyprus are more friendly (Because most of them are Cypriots not Turkish) that is "IF" you can speak Turkish or "IF" they speak English- However it stops there, they will hardly, I repeat HARDLY date you and if you hover about them ignoring that fact, if you are not killed or mauled by a jealous Turkish Cypriot guy, you could get into big trouble most assuredly, because it is a Taboo for them to marry outside their religion or kinsman.

In your case I am very most assuredly sure, that the neighborhood girls who came to check your internet issues were university students or were Turkish Cypriots.
Perhaps you probably don't know, but Turkish Cypriots are enthusiastic about speaking/learning English with foreigners so they'd jump at any opportunity to show off their lingual skills in English esp the ones who lived abroad.

I speak Turkish quite well, and I have stayed in various regions of Turkey including TRNC for over 4years, so I know what I am talking about, and I understand a lot of subtlety on that regard.
Sometimes though, Love happens but @vicjustice is mostly right about his analysis on Turkish ladies, they will mostly not date a Black person due to stereotype, cultural reasons, and lack of exposure.

Çok doğru! Adamsın!!

Kastamonu:
Yes, it is true that it is never rosy no matter where you go in Europe or America but the case of North Cyprus is much more difficult and pathetic. Here are reasons why it would be wiser to go to somewhere way better, than going to North Cyprus to work and study. I just completed my studies in North Cyprus, after spending four years of undergraduate studies, I know exactly what I am talking about here.

1. North Cyprus is not a country; it is not recognized as a country by the rest of the world; not by the United Nations or the European Union. Rather, it is a Turkish occupied territory. This is evident by the two flags used in the country; the Turkish flag and the North Cyprus flag. Both flags always stand side by side. North Cyprus relies on Turkey for everything even for soldiers to protect them.

2. The language spoken in North Cyprus is not English but Turkish. So students from Nigeria find it very difficult to adapt and settle down.

3. There are no good jobs. One of the ways through which travel agents deceive young Nigerians to go to North Cyprus, is to lie to them that there are very good jobs waiting for them in North Cyprus, but in truth there are no good jobs for students, not even in the universities (where they would be studying). The Universities offer students jobs in the library and information center with a pay that is less than N20,000 per month. Aside this, the jobs outside the universities are quite pitiful; because they are menial and very difficult jobs like construction, furniture making, bricklaying, painting and for ladies only cleaning jobs. These obviously are not jobs for students who hope to earn some money while studying. Like other students in North Cyprus, I had no other option but to do these jobs and trust me when I say, it was not easy to do them and at the same time go to school. Most times your academic suffer; you come from work, weak as a 'fried plantain' and you can not even open a page of your text book to study because you fall asleep almost immediately. By the way, these jobs are very difficult to find and the language barrier does not help.

4. You can never get a job with your certificate or diploma even after completion of your studies. In my four years here in North Cyprus, I have never seen a black man working in a good or reputable company. They never give foreigners or blacks jobs with their certificates.

4. Even you are able to get a job (a menial job), you get paid peanuts. The money would never be able to pay your school fees. Maybe it could be able to take care of your house rent and other bills but in the end you would be left with next to nothing to save.

5. You are openly cheated or exploited. After getting a job, you get paid in Turkish Lira (the official currency used in North Cyprus). But the irony is that you pay your house rent in pounds or euro. Even your school fees is paid in pounds, euro or dollars and not in the local currency which is much lower than the foreign currencies; thus you are losing money faster than water been poured in a basket. Hence you hardly save any money at the end of the month.

6. There is a high level of racism. This is not only obvious from how you are stared at when you walk on the streets or how you are treated when you go looking for jobs but actually what happens when you start working. Like I said earlier, the only available jobs are very difficult and there is an unwritten law that foreigners never get paid the same amount as citizens (turkish or cypriot), no matter how long you have been living in the country. Thus you and a citizen could be doing the same job but you get paid less than him. On the average, you get paid 50 turkish lira ($22/3,500 naira) per day while a citizen gets paid 100 tl ($45/N7,500) which is double what you earn. Sometimes you may be forced, by the owner or management of the company you work for, to do extra hours but the citizens never do extra hours.

7. Lastly another clear example of racism here in North Cyprus is the fact that a student of Cyprus International University, Gabriel Soriwei, was knocked down by a by a drunken female driver (a citizen). He fell into a coma; his dad came from Nigeria to see him while he was in the hospital. He recovered and was able to speak. But two weeks after his dad left for Nigeria, Gabriel died from a heart attack which was a direct result of the injuries he suffered from the accident. However, it took the efforts a relative of the Soriwei family, who stormed into a conference organized by agents from Cyprus International University who came to Nigeria to get students, before an a condolence message was sent to the family of Gabriel by the authorities of Cyprus International University. More disturbing and annoying, is the fact that the Soriwei family, till date, do not know the lady who knocked and killed their son; they don't even know what she looks like because the North Cyprus government and police refused to reveal the identity of the lady even after several messages from the boy's family that they just want to see her; that they have no intention of pressing charges. How sad...

*Note: If you have hopes of coming to North Cyprus to find a white girl or woman that would open doors of opportunity for you, you are mistaken and you better have a rethink. The turkish or cypriot ladies have no interest in black, more even they are racists, sometimes they even run away from you when you try to talk to them. Also the language barrier does not even encourage you to go out to search for a white girl who could possibly become your girlfriend or wife.


Lastly, if you are still in Nigeria and you intend to go abroad to study and possible work to get a better life for yourself, remove Cyprus from your list of possible countries to go. You would be better served going to a 'European' country like Germany, Spain or Italy where you could find better jobs and get better pay. If you are thinking of going to South Cyprus, also have a rethink because things are even worse there.

Pls, was is the possibility of a student traveling to Turkey via North Cyprus? Does one need a visa to travel to Turkey from North Cyprus?

Evening gurus in the house, please I need advise
Am wanting to apply for a visitors visa with Italian embassy,but my question are
1- what are the necessary documents I need to apply for the visa
2- my best staff for 2017 is also going with me as part of the company promise to always give the best staff two weeks holiday in their choice country
3- apart from my own business am also a Chief operating officer / company secretary of a company which are also willing to sponsor my 14days trip to Italy. I just want a concrete advise to guide me, so to know exactly what to do
Thanks

nickxtra:
Pls, was is the possibility of a student traveling to Turkey via North Cyprus? Does one need a visa to travel to Turkey from North Cyprus?

Yes, you need a visa to Turkey from North Cyprus still.

Please tell me a country were you can school and work,and earn money to take good care of yourself,pay school fees and rent and still save(a recognized university).Even in the USA,they only place that's possible is if you attend a community college which is not a recognized University.There's no place where its easy,but by the grace of God,we all tend to make it...plus,are you saying that a graduate from University of Nicosia won't get a job in cyprus or what?Most of you go to Cyprus,attend less appreciated schools and still expect to be employed in big companies. You are talking about a country were you can migrate to other European countries without much hustles.My brother,go and find something doing, stop telling us the chronicles of your journey,you probably were an illiterate boy whom the promised heaven and earth in Cyprus and because you did not carry out your own investigation, it didn't work out for you,now your telling everyone not to go there.mtttcheww

Hey, man...
I really don't know where you got your information from.
I studied in North Cyprus.
I am living their comfortable and lost of churches and mosque around.
It not the paradise for jobs (in reality where is?) but it is a very good place to study and the tuition fees are much lower that 70% of other European countries. North Cyprus is very good for studying - in fact it is called "The University Island".
I have lived in apartments and dormitories before and had no problem with the locals.
In fact the foreigns having problems here are Nigerians who come here to misbehave. Where ever Nigerians go we what to spoil it for other people. oh God have mercy on us.
The immigration and police dont worry you as long as you mind your own business and dont cause trouble.
There is peace here and security is very high with high tech camera everywhere. Citizens or foreigner who commit crimes are caught very quickly.
I have made so many friends here as there are students from over 105 countries studying here...
My school alone has over 20,000 international studying here.

So I dont know what the experience of the person that started this thread or the kind of lifestyle they live but my almost 4 years stay in North Cyprus has been without regrets.

And by the way who said the school are not accepted internationally. In-fact they are accredited by respected academic institutional bodies ad governments across Europe and America.

English is the language of tuition even for the Turkish who are in degrees which has English as medium of instruction... The over 92 plus undergraduate program in my school are taught in English.

Please which country should I travel to with 500k ..i will vex and enter Philippines ooo

Investmentfreak:
Please which country should I travel to with 500k ..i will vex and enter Philippines ooo

With 500k you can still enter Cyprus. My brother staying in Philippines told me that over his dead body will he allow me come there. Don't know all the details though

Silensa:


With 500k you can still enter Cyprus. My brother staying in Philippines told me that over his dead body will he allow me come there. Don't know all the details though

So what will 500k do for me in Cyprus??
Should I enter as a student or hustler??

Silensa:


With 500k you can still enter Cyprus. My brother staying in Philippines told me that over his dead body will he allow me come there. Don't know all the details though

Should I migrate as a student or hustler bro?

lastbono:
Nice write up, bt I know it's nt all Nigerians going thr will be killed or badly treated. Also, is the certificate gotten frm d sch well recognized by oda countries? If yes, dat means it's a gud place to go for sombdy who jst want to build career and nt hustling actually during studies.

You are determined to learn the hard way.

Read up history of North Cyprus.

Vicjustice:

Everything that this guy said is nothing but the reality, yet, not even all the negative realities that are mentioned.
I have not only been to Turkey and Greece, I have lived in these two countries, and I am a first hand witness of how blacks are treated: i did see racial profiling with my own eyes in both countries especially from their police officers.
In Turkey, the presense of a couple of blacks in a bus station is enough to attract a squad of police officers into passport control, and the officers are willing to negotiate and accept bribes to let you go.
And in Greece, a black man driving a flashing car (apart from in Athens or Thessaloniki) is enough to cause a high speed chase, and the black man is commanded to get off the car, put his hands on the roof of the car, spread his legs apart while the police officers search him for drugs, and any money that is found on him would need serious explanation: Greek police can't be bribed. Experience would teach you that (as an African) it is wise to cooperate with them through the provoking humiliation or you may make things worse for yourself, except you are a black EU citizen who they usually avoid to prevent intervention from your country.
Note: It is way easier to find a Greek girlfriend or wife than to even approach a Turkish girl: Turkish girls are Muslims, and by their tradition, it is considered an abomination for them to date non-Muslim men: they could be killed for bringing dishonour to their family.

My senior brother is married to a Turk though a Secular Turk. He did a fake conversion to Islam and he and his wife neither attend Church or Mosque. Both are very secular and European in their approach to religion.

angelsboizzzz:
am not an agent but reading what you said that northern cyprus is not a good place to study but let me ask a question, if as a student you work per hour and you are paid #3500 in nigerian currency as a foreigner and you work for just 12 hours in 2 days do you know how much you will be having? #84000. which ministry work do you know in Nigeria pays that amount ? except you wan to still government money bros. as for hardwork anybody don say make you push truck fro cyprus? anybody don tell you make u load bus? you don use the money wey you work buy fuel for gen make light dey your house? you don by candle read? men remember the country you are coming from cos is Nigeria students here in Nigeria can see 84k in two days while in school then Nigeria will have the happiest students in the world. or may be your papa na senator

It's 3500 a day and not per hour bro. North Cyprus is poor. Even in the U.K I doubt you can earn 84k a day which is about 180pounds

petemail2all:
The last post was as at 2016, I would love to know if this is still the case with North Cyprus. I mean the review made so far.

It is a rotten place bro!

Belmot:
South cyprus which is the greek part is a member of the EU and their education system is not that bad but the country is still split between the turks up north and greeks down south. They've made several attempts to unify the country but the eu is not doing a good job at the moment and ankara won't let go of northern cyprus any time soon.

Most importantly I doubt the Greek Cypriots are keen for their Muslim Turk brethens to become "one" again

Please remember the Turks are colonial settlers and they have another religion. The Greeks and Turks found it very hard to get along and when Greek nationalist in Greece seemed to have plans to take over the independent country, Turkey quickly invaded and divided the country into 2, settling the Turks in the North and leaving the South to the Greek Cypriots. The world punished the invasion by refusing to recognize North Cyprus (which is actually an illegality). This has left the place much poorer than the Greek side which is now a rich country.

The Turks would really like to join the Greek side but they aren't too keen.

saintneo:


Inasmuch as you've had a terrible experience, I can confirm to you that I'm​ married to a lady that schooled in North Cyprus. She had a job as a lecturer at another university while studying. The same image you painted above, was given to her; however, she keyed into God. There were tough times, she sacrificed her earnings as first fruit. God came into her situation, she got employed in job she had no experience in except her undergraduate degree 2.2 for that matter. God is awesome, alleluia!
I wish I know what I know now as a Christian while I was in the UK.

Bro, key into God just like King Solomon did and see God come into your situation.

Yes, I'm a full time shepple.

Be careful of this guy. It's better not to go. Why not go to a prosperous European country for the same fees like Germany? Why tempt God?

sweetTai:
I have a message for my fellow young Africans, Please I'm begging you with everything in me to be careful before travelling overseas. I have lived in the United States for the last 22 years and I can tell you that beside America, Nigeria is the only other place I can live. I have been in the US for all these years and I still long for the day that I can at least spend half of every year in Nigeria. Even the so-called America is just a place filled with worries, hypertension and loss of belonging. No matter how long you have been here, they still look at you like a frigging foreigner. I have been to the best cities in Europe and Canada and I tell you, I can never live there. At least America has some laws to protect you if you have legal status, some European countries make you feel like a stray dog. Be careful when Nigerian in diaspora are boasting to you about abroad, it's not all what it cracks up to be. A vast majority of them are liars and exaggerates. I have a very good job, I make six figure salary, drive expensive car and a nice house but still, your life is like a lost prince. How I wonder we can all come together in Africa and fix our $#it! Most of the basic necessities that the western countries provide their citizens are not hard to accomplish for any nation but when mismanagement, corruption, laziness and lack of empathy comes into governance and the masses, these things becomes hard to achieve. Every year, Africa keep losing vibrant young men and women to the deep seas of Europe and Asia all in search of imaginary greener pastures. Please, Please and please listen to me. If you have a good job or prospect in Nigeria or Africa, stay there and contribute positive to your immediate environment. Lift other people up and keep pushing it and stay positive. And if you have the opportunity to go overseas, investigate the opportunity and never forget home because I will not tell you not to travel overseas but i'll tell you to mind what you do overseas. Here in America, I have advised many Africans on how to navigate their ways in this country and how to succeed in their endeavors. Time after time, I found young African men and women still timid and fearful of the white folks. Why be fearful if you have done everything right? Don't allow fear to rule your life, be confident and firm in your decisions but be wise. Finally, Be prayerful and let God and your heart lead you. Stay away from illegality be it at home or abroad, you will find things a lot easier that way. Fraud and illegalities only gives you a temporary joy, it gives you a lot harder and rough road down the line.

The country presently isn't worth returning to!

The economy is barely growing at 1.81% last year which is very poor for a country at this stage of development. Nigeria needs to grow at least 7% to create enough jobs to cater to those entering the job market annually. Unemployment is rising fast and people are turning to crime.

Some white people are coming to the country soon they suggested they get an escort. These wasn't the case some years back came in 2010 and 2012. Things are detiorating and that's why people are rooting for Atiku.

laudate:

So are you currently living in Turkey? And are those your Nigerian friends who are married to Turkish women, also staying in Turkey? The country is big, and the other poster who said Turkish girls do not like blacks, may have stayed in a region different from your own.

Turks are primarily divided into 2. You have the secular Turks and the observant Turk.

Secular Turks like European Christians aren't defined by their religion. They are just Muslim by name. Also the country constitution is secular. There was a time it was illegal to enter into a public institution with a Hijab. I think the ban on having more than 1 wife is still in place.

Even though there are observant Muslims, the country is an upper middle income country with a per capita income at least triple Nigeris'a. So don't expect to see backward people. They are probably the most advanced Muslim country in the world

You may refute that saying places like Qatar and Dubai are far more advanced but they are artificial. Most of the buildings and infrastructure in those countries were built by foreigners and probably still maintained by them. In Turkey on the other hand, they have huge engineering firms that carry out construction work. Just like you have the Chinese or Julius Berger carrying out construction projects in Nigeria, that's how you find Turkish construction companies all over Russia.

Over 20m tourist visit yearly and it is not dependent on any mineral or commodity for prosperity.

airsaylongcon:


Unfair. Do you know what the Albanians go through? Pontiac Greeks Nkọ? Russians? Eastern European ladies are often raided for prostitution. Yes blacks get profiled but so do many other nationalities. Even Greeks themselves get profiled

Thanks for pointing this out!

For instance, the Brits wanted out of the EU due to uncontrolled immigration from fellow white European countries and not because of illegal immigration from other parts of the world

If the EU countries had been black, they'd have shouted racism!

grandstar:


My senior brother is married to a Turk though a Secular Turk. He did a fake conversion to Islam and he and his wife neither attend Church or Mosque. Both are very secular and European in their approach to religion.

There is nothing like "false conversion" to Islam, Islam is not like Christianity where conversion is in the heart ♥, conversion in Islam means declaring that there is no God but Allah, and that Muhammed is his messenger. If your brother declared that, then he is a Muslim in principle.

Vicjustice:

There is nothing like "false conversion" to Islam, Islam is not like Christianity where conversion is in the heart ♥, conversion in Islam means declaring that there is no God but Allah, and that Muhammed is his messenger. If your brother declared that, then he is a Muslim in principle.

Okay then. Thanks

Please is the situation in Cyprus still the same? I was given admission in CIU recently with a 50% scholarship. If you are in the country, kindly reply with answers.

Thank you

g8662:
Hey, man...
I really don't know where you got your information from.
I studied in North Cyprus.
I am living their comfortable and lost of churches and mosque around.
It not the paradise for jobs (in reality where is?) but it is a very good place to study and the tuition fees are much lower that 70% of other European countries. North Cyprus is very good for studying - in fact it is called "The University Island".
I have lived in apartments and dormitories before and had no problem with the locals.
In fact the foreigns having problems here are Nigerians who come here to misbehave. Where ever Nigerians go we what to spoil it for other people. oh God have mercy on us.
The immigration and police dont worry you as long as you mind your own business and dont cause trouble.
There is peace here and security is very high with high tech camera everywhere. Citizens or foreigner who commit crimes are caught very quickly.
I have made so many friends here as there are students from over 105 countries studying here...
My school alone has over 20,000 international studying here.

So I dont know what the experience of the person that started this thread or the kind of lifestyle they live but my almost 4 years stay in North Cyprus has been without regrets.

And by the way who said the school are not accepted internationally. In-fact they are accredited by respected academic institutional bodies ad governments across Europe and America.

English is the language of tuition even for the Turkish who are in degrees which has English as medium of instruction... The over 92 plus undergraduate program in my school are taught in English.

.

Please bro, do you think CIU is somewhere I can study? I just got admitted with a 50% scholarship.