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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Erums(m): 11:02pm On May 06, 2017 |
aamstih: Yes i have... Off recent in noticed some safety officers can work as quality control officers which tends to pay more..... Also business are needing ISO more than the ohsas even as requirement for thier roles.... Thus de consideration |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by aamstih: 11:08pm On May 06, 2017 |
Good, I can see you've done your home work and you seem to know where your motivation lies... Erums: |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Erums(m): 5:49am On May 07, 2017 |
aamstih: Thanks... So do u advise iso? |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 7:05am On May 07, 2017 |
Erums: Very correct Sir. HSE is in multi-industrial domains. Not just the oil sector. The reason why people prefer the Oil and Gas Domain is because of the higher pay, especially if one is employed directly as a full staff to any of the Exploration and Production International Oil Companies. Besides the pay, the experience is also worth it. There is HSE in Aviation/Air Transport, Agriculture, Oil and Gas, Power and Energy, Road/Road Transport (Road Safety), Marine (Boats, ships-vessels in various waters), Military (yes, you heard me), Building, School, Playground and Parks, Public (Public Safety and Health), etc. etc. In fact there is safety of anything that can cause us harm! It is why the curriculum nowadays, is to develop techniques and skills and approaches, that you can apply in multi industrial domains. It is the reason why ISO31000 is being looked at and professionals are trying to make it suitable for (possibly) all countries of the world to adopt in Managing and Engineering HSE Risks. When I did my MSc. In Safety Engineering (actually called "MSc. Risk Engineering: HSE Engineering and Management" or RE-SEAM), we were used to pilot this management and engineering techniques to the multiindustrial domain approach. I can practise safety engineering in a Probabilistic approach (e.g. Aviation) or in a Deterministic approach e.g Oil and Gas, depending on the sector I find myself. Presently the Oil and Gas sector is migrating to the Probailistic approach due to the implementation of RBI Programs (Risk Based Inspection) for Asset Integrity Management (AIM). It is this wholistic approach, the techniques and technical/engineering processes (drawings,calculations,designing etc.) that will be quite interesting to see taught in Nigeria someday at such an advanced level. I want to see where HSE professionals will not only do "Spot the Hazard" or "Slips Trips and Falls" or filling out work permits. I want to see them do prevention through design, human factor and ergonomics, functional safety IEC 61508 and 61511, dropped objects calculations, chemical process safety control, chemical reaction risk analyses, etc. 6 Likes |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by hayotundeh: 4:11pm On May 07, 2017 |
Is it advisable to go for certification training in IRCA ISO 9001:2015,after undergoing training with Ispon both in ghse and hse3? |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Erums(m): 7:07pm On May 07, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum: Wow i can see, your so far gone in this field... Coupled with ur egineering knowledge.. Im not an engineer thou.... Can i get to know you outta here |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by prinzeepule(m): 7:22pm On May 07, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum: Nice write up sir, am a graduate of chemical engineering currently doing my NYSC and am about starting HSE. I just need your advice on what safety training is next after HSE 3. Will love to specialize in Chemical processes though. Thanks |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by ritzycul(m): 3:03pm On May 08, 2017 |
Am also of the opinion that you consider OHSAS 18001, or on the contrary, wait till a final resolution is made on ISO 45001 so that you avoid the stress of migrating from OHSAS 18001 to ISO 45001. Keep in touch, i will recommend some certifications that will be relevant in the power sector for you. 1 Like |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by EKPETI(m): 3:11pm On May 08, 2017 |
As banking and finance major with HSE 2&3 certificate. What is my chances in safety? |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by McMyer: 2:37pm On May 11, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum:WOW! Your wealth of experience and expertise is so intimidating to a safety newbie like me, what will it cost me to learn under your tutelage?? 1 Like |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by cr80vity(m): 3:55am On May 12, 2017 |
any HSE Professional residing in Asaba, delta state pls contact me - our institute needs one or two HSE professional instructor urgently... my contact: 08145282095 WhatsApp: 08134008468 |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by zeongeon: 1:19pm On May 12, 2017 |
@OmaniPadmeHum, I commend you on the wonderful work your doing when it comes to educating and informing participants of the group. That deterministic and probablistic methods are known methods of managing risk and even helps in the elimination of hazards and risks reduction during the design phase. It makes the elimination stage in our hierarchy of controls possible and feasible. I was even surprised to see that deterministic approach was used for earth quakes, landslides and even flooding There are different branches of safety, you have got engineering, psychology, business, disaster safety and many others.. it's left for one to choose an area and then develop yourself. When it comes to gains in HSE people always look at oil and gas however there are some other industrial sectors that pay just like oil and gas and even more when it comes to safety. The question shouldn't be how much can I make from safety although there is not wrong in considering the financial gains but you will go far and make more gains by asking how can I make life and this world a better place using Health, Safety and Environment. 3 Likes |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by qizick: 9:38pm On May 12, 2017 |
So HSE is outdated? Co's I'm a corps member and prime risk mgt is offering HSE course I don't know if I should register |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 11:07am On May 13, 2017 |
qizick: On what premise(s) are you asking this question? I am not faulting it. I like knowing the reason(s) behind everything I can. Especially, when it seems you have misunderstood what a lot of knowledgeable guys have been saying here. I would have thought that HSE Sciences is improving and getting more spot on in eliminating/mitigating hazards and risks? No, the profession is not getting outdated. It is getting highly competitive such that basic trainings might not cut it as a HSE professional. Secondly, industrial processes are increasingly getting complicated in many domains. Especially when it comes to Systems. This has led to more hazards, high consequences and hence more HSE risks. Generally, from observations, while minor accidents have been cut down to a low level in many safety conscious organisations, HIPOs (high potential events/accidents) have NOT dropped significantly. Shouldn't the profession ordinarily become more current, improved with better techniques and so forth? Thirdly, regulators and regulations are competitively getting stricter in many countries. I mean take the guy that wanted to export Coke from Nigeria to the UK and our Coca-Cola did not pass their food safety test. With these regulations come the need for compliance and industrial enforcement and monitoring. This means more and better skilled HSE personnel will be required both as regulators and as operators. I will like You to, just out of curiosity, browse for HSE Positions in Canada, USA, etc. You will see a lot of job offers way more than in Nigeria. Our case is always a peculiar one. But no need to bore ourselves with the usual complaints. As a corps member, check in your State of Service if you have an NISP/ISPON Branch. If there is one, get their training calendar and do your Basic Levels 1,2,3 training with them. Unless the sound called Prime Risk Management is offering more specialized training areas. If it is basic HSE, then stick with NISP/ISPON. ISPON has been offering this training way back when it was called NISP and when the training was even subsidized by Shell. Besides, it is the body recognized by law to regulate the profession and it's practise in Nigeria. (so to speak). As per the training providers you talked about, do they have any accreditation by e.g. NISP, DPR, BSC, OSHA IOSH, NEBOSH, WSO etc? Is their course content rich enough to impart the necessary knowledge/information and skill at Levels 1,2 and 3? Good luck. 1 Like |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by UkOYENJNR: 9:44pm On May 13, 2017 |
am a graduate (B.Eng) of elect/elect engineering with safety certification by ISPON. i nid an apportunity to practise safety pls hook me up. ukoyenjunior@yahoo.com or +234(0)7083149270,7067993374...tanz very much for assisting me |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by ritzycul(m): 5:23am On May 14, 2017 |
In addition to what my distinguished colleague just said, understand that not all certificates awarding bodies are recognized. Also not all will give you the value of the certificate they issue out due to deficiency in having competent instructors. So act wisely. NISP/ISPON is one of the most recognized HSE awarding body in Nigeria. So I will also advice that you enroll with ISPON, so that you will not end up wasting your money. I learnt this during my NYSC program. So I had to run basic HSE courses twice. I did 1st with an unrecognized body. I still had to start afresh with NISP. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by lieutAliyu(m): 11:28am On May 14, 2017 |
ritzycul: Please is NISP website up agai?they have been down so long and centres are not nationwide.Any information on this will be appreciated. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Greatken007(m): 5:14am On May 15, 2017 |
Where do you intend to run the program? lieutAliyu: |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by ritzycul(m): 5:22am On May 15, 2017 |
Where is your location? |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by emmanuelpopson(m): 10:14am On May 15, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum: you are a pool of knowledge to derive more from.. I am a geology graduate.. I did HSE 1,2 and 3 at novelle during my NYSC last year.. I'm equally yet to get a job but I'll like to know what other professional certificate do I meet to add to the ones I had already to get better offers in the favor market... I'll be glad to hear from you soon..thanks |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by cruzydal(m): 12:35pm On May 15, 2017 |
Please can someone that studied human anatomy and cell biology need HSE |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Greatken007(m): 10:55pm On May 15, 2017 |
HSE is a career path,you can carve a niche out for yourself. cruzydal: |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by ritzycul(m): 9:46am On May 16, 2017 |
Greatken007:That will be determined by his location |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 9:29pm On May 16, 2017 |
Pls, advice me. How do I prepare for NEBOSH? How many months or weeks can it take me to prepare for it? Those that have written and passed should put me through. Thanks... |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 9:45pm On May 16, 2017 |
cruzydal: Oh yes. Very well. Funny enough you can focus on the area of Occupational Health and Ergonomics or Human Factor and Ergonomics (HFE). Start with the basics and then build up. In Nigeria I doubt if there are professional HFE courses. In HFE you tend to know the limitations to the human physiology and Anatomy and how these increase/promote or limit/reduce HSE Risks. This knowledge is used in designing many things like Control Rooms, Work Desks, Work Stations, Access, Door Ways, Emergency Exits etc. For instance, what is the attention span of night shift workers in an FPSO Offshore monitoring crude production? When they are drowsy can they actually differentiate the emergency shut down button from other buttons? If they stretch over the control panel and console, won't their elbows mistakenly trigger another button? What type of key board is best for those that type a lot? HFE (among other things) actually took us to Golfech Nuclear Power Plant in France to see the design of the control room and to see the Simulator Control room too. A lot of HFE was put in by specialists such as yourself. But like I said, I don't think these courses are available yet in Nigeria. I do however have some textbooks on HFE. One is a very applied textbook. With your Cell Biology skills you can also focus on occupational health and industrial hygiene. Perhaps you might need to search online for these courses. Check local trainers like Novelle to see if they offer some of these courses on OHIH. 2 Likes |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 9:52pm On May 16, 2017 |
emmanuelpopson: If you have the finances, then get NEBOSH IGC. It is a world wide accepted certificate. If you want to work in the UK you will need NEBOSH NGC though. Besides this there are other smaller course on HSE you can do. If you have an area of bias for instance, you can tailor your training needs into that area. One critical part of HSE is disaster risk. It is part of Public HSE and involves specialists in earthquake,landslide,etc prediction, modelling, emergency response, resistant building/structure designs etc. But this specialization is not appreciated yet in Nigeria. Here we focus on mainly industrial safety especially oil and gas, construction and others. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 10:13pm On May 16, 2017 |
SKYZZZ: NEBOSH IGC with 1-2 months of constant study, you should be ready. After studying for 1-2 months, you can then enroll, attend classes for about 10 days, acquire the knowledge and skills on how to answer questions etc then write the exam. Usually it is split into the universe underlisted elements. However this varies between trainer to trainer. UNIT 1 INTRODUCTION:MGT OF HEALTH AND SAFETY Element 1: Health and Safety Foundation Element 2: Setting Policy for Health and Safety Element 3: Organizing for Health and Safety Element 4: Promoting Positive Health & Safety Culture Element 5: Health and Safety Risk Assessment Element 6: Principles of Control in Health and Safety Element 7: Monitoring Review and Audit of HSE Performance Element 8: Investigation, Recording and Reporting of Health and Safety Incidents. UNIT 2 CONTROLLING WORK PLACE HAZARDS Element 9: Work Place Hazard and It's Control Element 10: Transportation Hazard and Risk Control Element 11: Muscoloskeletal Hazard and Risk Control Element 12: Equipment Hazard and Risk Control Element 13: Electrical Safety Element 14: Fire Safety Element 15: Chemical and Biological Hazard and Risk Control. Element 16: Physical/Physiological Hazard and Risk Control UNIT 3 PRACTICAL APPLICATION Health and Safety Practical Apllication. Here you will do a risk assessment of an activity and turn in a risk assessment report. Usually the NEBOSH manual is about 200-500 pages depending on the training school. E. G. some schools put in more photos into their materials giving it more bulk. 1-2 months of good study should give you confidence to enroll, go to classes, write the exam and pass. On YouTube there are many videos on NEBOSH and how to answer the questions. Use them too to learn. 2 Likes |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 10:46pm On May 16, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum: God bless you richly. I greatly appreciate. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by cruzydal(m): 7:14am On May 17, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum:Thanks a million |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Sirhethat12(f): 2:08pm On May 17, 2017 |
SKYZZZ: hello please I need your advice, I'm a student and my school is on strike, it seems we are in for a long thing so I'm thinking of using this period To obtain professional certifications. I am a chemical engineering student, what RELEVANT professional courses do you think I can go for considering the fact that I'm still a student? |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Sirhethat12(f): 5:09pm On May 17, 2017 |
[quote author=profseunb82 post=53806185]Certifications are obtained from Bodies which spell out certain conditions which include setting up of syllabus,modules ,conduct exams among others and when you meet the conditions you would be awarded certificates.Let me also add that these certificates are legally backed up by statutory and relevant laws. As a safety newbie i would advise you get the ISPON certificates and during more years of practice and money available you do Nebosh, starting from Nebosh IGC, then you graduate to the Nebosh Diploma.Other certification include IEMA, OSHA....but i must note at this point that OSHA has so much awareness approach and it is tailored mainly for American based system. The various HSE 1,2,3, fire programme and a host of training you see advertised are awareness programme a feat that any company should organize for all her staff and not necessarily HSE would be.In fact when you become employed that would be your job.To make all staff in your company aware of these issues. [/quote) Good evening sir, I'm an undergraduate and my school is presently on strike, I'm thinking of enrolling for One of this HSE program, is it adviseable or should I wait till I graduate? |
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