englishmart: To be independent na by force?

Some selfish people wanting to loot by enforcing independence.

We are not going to leave the UK.
Period!

Loot!? Enforce!? Nigerian mentality

redcliff: That is the big difference between humans and monkeys, Between developed and under* developed. Thats the difference between true democracy and hypocrisy.

U have a mental problem u don't just know about it.

Good for them. Not too long ago, the Swiss too voted against increasing the minimum wage in their country. In Naija, dat one no fit happen!

seunmsg: I hope those calling for the break-up of Nigeria can learn from this scottish referendum. Scotland is far more developed than most of the geo political zones clamouring for independence in Nigeria and still, they voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. If we put our acts together as a country, we are far better off as one big united country. Nigeria must remain a big, united and indivisible union. All we need to make it work is to vote for good leaders based on merit and not tribal/ religious sentiment.

Nigeria was never meant to be. It was created by foreigners. The minor and major tribes in Nigeria didn't hold a meeting of unity. Nigeria was imposed on the tribes.

Where those morons seeking Oduduwa Republic and Biafra Whatever!

Ya'll should learn the power of UNITY or DIE you tribal bastarrdss....

good one... ... ...it is so painful that this westerners know how to use their brains unlike we blacks!

So painful!

careytommy:
Thank you, I don't know why most pips are so shortsighted because of d crumbs dey getting (yes most scots voted NO out of fear and threats to their economy from london)

it is not threat. It is the simple reality on ground, you can't have your cake and eat it (too)

seunmsg: I hope those calling for the break-up of Nigeria can learn from this scottish referendum. Scotland is far more developed than most of the geo political zones clamouring for independence in Nigeria and still, they voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. If we put our acts together as a country, we are far better off as one big united country. Nigeria must remain a big, united and indivisible union. All we need to make it work is to vote for good leaders based on merit and not tribal/ religious sentiment.

Let's not cherry pick on the lessons learned

May be we too should have a vote about the future of Nigeria!

That's where the lessons begin for me.

UK and Scotland will emerge stronger from this no vote! Because they have tested the argument at the polls!

GodMode:

Nigeria was never meant to be. It was created by foreigners. The minor and major tribes in Nigeria didn't hold a meeting of unity. Nigeria was imposed on the tribes.

Dude it's the 21st century. By now you should be ashamed to mention the word TRIBE..


Check your map. You'd see that every region in the world that still addresses themselves as TRIBESMEN are the most underdeveloped and cursed-like people on earth.........

Just be Nigerian and proud. Furk that Oduduwa or Biafra BullCRrap. It's all bullcrrap.

redcliff: That is the big difference between humans and monkeys, Between developed and under* developed. Thats the difference between true democracy and hypocrisy.

where have u kept ur senses sir!?
Must u prove urself tu be seriously stupid?

Nd wat are d mods doin bout this shii

dstnd: Let go beg britain to take us back..lool

Supported

redcliff: That is the big difference between humans and monkeys, Between developed and under* developed. Thats the difference between true democracy and hypocrisy.

Mr just shutup! Who are monkey and hypocrisy?

And please stop putting blanket tag on people just cause they choose different opinions

mikeansy:

Let's not cherry pick on the lessons learned
May be we to should have a vote about the future of Nigeria!

That's where the lessons begin for me.

There is the part you start hearing irrational statements like “to keep Nigeria one is a task that must be done”,“the unity of Nigeria is not negotiable”

seunmsg: I hope those calling for the break-up of Nigeria can learn from this scottish referendum. Scotland is far more developed than most of the geo political zones clamouring for independence in Nigeria and still, they voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. If we put our acts together as a country, we are far better off as one big united country. Nigeria must remain a big, united and indivisible union. All we need to make it work is to vote for good leaders based on merit and not tribal/ religious sentiment.

You're a highly delusional fellow. The United Kingdom is made up of four semi-autonomous countries (with promise of more devolution) while Nigeria is one country with many states.

The UK is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of government while Nigeria is a republic with a president. I see no basis for comparisons here, you're comparing bread to stone.

There's nothing united about Nigeria, it is one big smouldering wreck, and it's only right that certain people feel they should be independent.

How about Nigeria grants those seeking independence/separation a chance to have their say in a referendum?

seunmsg: I hope those calling for the break-up of Nigeria can learn from this scottish referendum. Scotland is far more developed than most of the geo political zones clamouring for independence in Nigeria and still, they voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. If we put our acts together as a country, we are far better off as one big united country. Nigeria must remain a big, united and indivisible union. All we need to make it work is to vote for good leaders based on merit and not tribal/ religious sentiment.

The Scottish independence movement has (or had) absolutely no resemblance to Nigeria's geopolitical landscape, to start with, Scotland is already its own country, that is in a union with the United Kingdom, they have their own parliament, capital, governance, and so on. Scotland is in a good deal with England and the UK already, whereas (most of) the component parts of Nigeria are actually not gaining anything from the Nigerian union. You see, you've based the benefits of staying in Nigeria on things that could/should/would happen unlike how Scotland has based it's unity with the UK with things that were already on ground. Do you think Scotland would have stayed in the UK if all it did was take its resources, tke away its independence (again Scotland is already an independent country Edit: although not fully), and bog it down with troubles that are not their own such as serious distant ethno-religious clashes/wars (like Boko Haram), polar-opposite political arrangements (a la Sharia law), bad governance, and tense ethno-religious shaped politics? No, they wouldn't.

Nor b dem sabi...I dey find money jor,,who get?

GodMode:

Nigeria was never meant to be. It was created by foreigners. The minor and major tribes in Nigeria didn't hold a meeting of unity. Nigeria was imposed on the tribes.

There has been several constitutional conferences held prior to independence and after it. And all have agreed to remain within the entity nigeria. Even the most divisive of them the aburi accord did not call for the dissolution of the country.

Keneking: Jonathannnnnnnnnnnnn

THIS GUY U'VE SCREAMING JONATHAN FOR DAYS NOW.DID JONA STEAL UR BRAINS


BACK TO THE TOPIC:WOW NOW THIS IS SHOCKING.SO A NATION CAN ACTUALLY VOTE AGAINS IT'S OWN INDEPENDENCE

50calibre:

You're a highly delusional fellow. The United Kingdom is made up of four semi-autonomous countries (with promise of more devolution) while Nigeria is one country with many states.

The UK is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of government while Nigeria is a republic with a president. I see no basis for comparisons here, you're comparing bread to stone.

There's nothing united about Nigeria, it is one big smouldering wreck, and it's only right that certain people feel they should be independent.

How about Nigeria grants those seeking independence/separation a chance to have their say in a referendum?

FOR THE FIRST TIME.I AGREE WITH WHAT U SAID

freedom is expensive

Awoofawo:

And they will remain slaves forever..... The matter dey pain me for body gan!

Make mama Charle find more stronger chain to hold that yeye uncorn down for her backyard...

Actually, if Scotland had voted yes....Mama Charles would have still been their queen.

Canada for example still has Mama Charles as their queen....as do several Commonwealth Nations.

Nigeria still had Mama Charles as our queen until 1963 when we became a Republic.

ezeagu:

The Scottish independence movement has (or had) absolutely no resemblance to Nigeria's geopolitical landscape, to start with, Scotland is already its own country, that is in a union with the United Kingdom, they have their own parliament, capital, governance, and so on. Scotland is in a good deal with England and the UK already, whereas (most of) the component parts of Nigeria are actually not gaining anything from the Nigerian union. You see, you've based the benefits of staying in Nigeria on things that could/should/would happen unlike how Scotland has based it's unity with the UK with things that were already on ground. Do you think Scotland would have stayed in the UK if all it did was take its resources, tke away its independence (again Scotland is already an independent country), and bog it down with troubles that are not their own such as serious distant ethno-religious clashes/wars (like Boko Haram), polar-opposite political arrangements (a la Sharia law), bad governance, and tense ethno-religious shaped politics? No, they wouldn't.

In one breath you said Scotland is independent in another you said it its not. Is Scotland an independent country?

ok o....nor be by force

Alex Salmon, do the honourable thing and resign. you pushed a divisive and un-necessary costly referendum which went no where, just to push your own agenda! The people have spoken. Long live the UK

Eldavido1:

There has been several constitutional conferences held prior to independence and after it. And all have agreed to remain within the entity nigeria. Even the most divisive of them the aburi accord did not call for the dissolution of the country.

Which constitutional conference are you talking about; you mean those one written in the president (head of state) kitchen or the pre-independence trash you read in sss textbooks and spoon-feed us?

maxit2: Where those morons seeking Oduduwa Republic and Biafra Whatever!

Ya'll should learn the power of UNITY or DIE you tribal bastarrdss....

Shut up fool. The scots were given the opportunity to decide what is good for them.
The scotland situation cannot in anyway be compared to what is obtainable in Nigeria.
There is nothing like unity here.

Awoofawo:

Which constitution conference are you talking about; you mean those one written in president kitchen and spoon-feed us?

Maybe you should read more of your history than nairaland probably you will be educated on how your nation evolved.

50calibre:

You're a highly delusional fellow. The United Kingdom is made up of four semi-autonomous countries (with promise of more devolution) while Nigeria is one country with many states.

The UK is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of government while Nigeria is a republic with a president. I see no basis for comparisons here, you're comparing bread to stone.

There's nothing united about Nigeria, it is one big smouldering wreck, and it's only right that certain people feel they should be independent.

How about Nigeria grants those seeking independence/separation a chance to have their say in a referendum?

Basic problems with a potential Independence vote in Nigeria.

1.Who conducts the vote? INEC? (that has problems with conducting the regular vote? That is not independent?) The UN ? (which opens the door for foreign intervention?)

2.What is a region? Nigerians who talk about separation assume that it is still 1964....when we had four semi-autonomous regions. It isn't, thanks to state creation.....which has changed the dynamics well well....especially with regards to minority rights.

3.Most of the chaps calling for splitting Nigeria are usually from the big tribes. And many of them are so disdainful of minority rights that the idea of independence where majority tribes dominate minority tribes in the new countries......is not acceptable to minorities.(Infact, that is why we have states in the first place....because minorities were tired of being dominated by majorities in the old regions....and that is why we even had the Midwest region created in 63).

4.What currency will each of the countries use? Assuming say...Biafra splits up from Nigeria for example....would they still use the Naira? (When Biafra was formed in 67...they used the Nigerian Pound until Jack Gowon played a fast one on them in 68 and changed the colour of the Nigerian Pound).Would Abuja let them? And do you know the difficulties in creating a new currency? (That is one of the reasons why Scotland voted no).

5.Who controls the oil (That is why it took five years for Sudan to split up....arguments over control of oil....an argument they still have now). If there is a split...there is going to be some argument over compensation for missing oil money.

6.And there are issues over landlocked countries vs countries with access to the sea.

7.At the bolded....Nigeria is not united...so also is the UK. Wales, Northern Ireland , even Cornwall have their own issues...and Ireland split from the UK in 1922.

And I have more confidence in the parts of the UK surviving on their own than Nigeria....because you Nigerians are not interested in harnessing your human and natural resources for innovative development. You are not interested in creating new jobs, new industries etc....which all the parts of the UK do. You Nigerians are only interested in selling raw materials...oil especially...and sharing the money. And the only reason why you grumble about oil money is because you think that the other parts are cheating you of your fair share. You and your Hausa pals.

So, Nigerians...go home, stop arguing over tribe, religion, Sharia, and resource control. Stop waving the flag of Islamist fundamentalism. Stop your message of christian prosperity without hard work....and go home and invest in education, industry , defeating corruption, and justice for all under the law.....and when each and every state in Nigeria is self sustaining and can boast of industries and jobs galore...because that is why they were created...for development....then we can talk all day long about splitting.

Scotland has oil...but it also has a diversified industrial setup. You Nigerians want separation or unity because you all want to be like a rich man's trophy wife...spending her husband's money on baubles...and refusing to work ever. Well....better get working. This isn't paradise....it is planet Earth.

Eldavido1:

Maybe you should read more of your history than nairaland probably you will be educated on how your nation evolved.

LOL you should expect this from them.
The comparison between Scottish independence and a Nigerian breakup was always completely false anyway, but now that Scotland has driven a final nail into that coffin by voting 'no', they're all going to be here crying nonsense because that's all they can do.

Why are some retarded human being comparing Scotland with Nigeria

SCOTLAND BETRAYING WILLIAM WALLACE SINCE 1297 AD