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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by afrokid(m): 1:54pm On Sep 25, 2014
We don't know who is lying or telling the truth.

Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by MarieSucre(f): 1:58pm On Sep 25, 2014
I'm not one for conspiracy theories but did America not send some specialists to aid in the "bring back our girls campaign_. what came of their mission? is there something they know that we don't.

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by F117A: 2:00pm On Sep 25, 2014
donroxy:
That is why you are shitt if I'm chatting shitt .... I said ''NO sane Nation'' .... Not ''No nation'' as quoted by you!!

Maybe you read like Ebola bat grin ...Upside down tongue fucqa !

US may owe China alot of money , Europe Economy may be dependent on Russian Gas/Billionnaires But:

Militarily, The West and East stand Independent while the rest nations in the world are nothing but spectators, watching the bigbrothers doing their stunts and bully except for Japan, NK, Isreal and recently IRAN even India and SouthAfrica are performing better in weapon development !!!

Stand there and wait on Obama/Cameron to come and deliver you !!
You are a moronn.
The US,russia and china are not sane nations when they sell billion dollar worth of weapons every year?
Ignorant toad.
Next time dont contribute in issues beyond your intellect.

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by vodkat: 2:07pm On Sep 25, 2014
Why do u all beleive the US govt dont lie
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by AjanleKoko: 2:12pm On Sep 25, 2014
mbulela: Meanwhile, Mukhtar Dan’Iyan, the editor-in-chief of the 15Past8 Media Group based in New York City, who is also an expert on Africa and Middle East policy and security gave his opinion on the matter in a tweet he posted.
Dan’Iyan wrote, “Israel does not use CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, so selling surplus (or any stock) to Nigeria or any other nation is not even a possibility. The story about USA blocking the sale of non-existent equipment from Israel is therefore non-sequitur.
“Incidentally, Israel uses the Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion as its heavy transport helicopter, and Boeing would do anything to get that business for its Chinook,” he wrote.


Unrefined liars in power.
My problem is not the government keeps feeding us lies at every turn, my issue is that the lies are not even properly researched. They just lie on the run,as if it does not matter whether we believe or not.

This government in particular seem to have lots of goodwill, but are unbelievably inept when it comes to managing perception, or any kind of information. Even when the soldiers were running things, the official confusion was never this palpable.

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Bergs(m): 2:29pm On Sep 25, 2014
story!!!!!!!!
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by fujirice: 2:30pm On Sep 25, 2014
Sincere9gerian: Nigerians are the worst enemy of Nigeria. There is nothing in the report suggesting specifically that the US actually denied blocking the sale of CH-47 Chinook transport aircraft to Nigeria.
I thought I was the only one that noticed that........eish!

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Nobody: 2:32pm On Sep 25, 2014
SA is a very transparent country....if your country wanted to do things unlawfully thinking that they will get away with murder unfortunately they fell in the wrong country...surely SA would not hesitate to sell arms to her sister country Nigeria as long as things are done properly..SA publicly condemned the killings of innocent Palestinians particularly women and children by Israel,in stead of supporting SA call,some Africans lambasted on South Africans ...Jacob zuma was the only African leader who did not support the US and UK intention to strike Ukraine for using nuclear bombs to kill civilians..SA needs another African country to add her voice on brics and g20 countries,from the innovative and creative thinking point of view our Nigerian brothers are far from the plate..










major466: America lying since 1776.
-Nigeria ask them for ZMapp. They refused.
-Nigeria ask them for intelligence report. They Refused.
-Nigeria ask them to help target movement of arms across the Sahara from Libya. They never gave a damm.
-Nigeria wants to buy arms. They blocked it.
OK now we get it. They predicted that Nigeria will break up in 2015 so they're will do everything possible to make it a reality.
America and Europe in general are liars.

Nigeria is the only last man standing in the committee of independent Countries. All the rest especially South Africa are puppets of the west. That's why they exposed our arms deal in South Africa.

But whether they like it or not Nigeria shall surely prevail and come out stronger.
If there's any country that is standing on the way of America to Spread its Africom menace in Africa, it is Nigeria. Am very proud of this.

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Wallie(m): 2:52pm On Sep 25, 2014
The details of the blocked weapons sale probably got mixed up because Israel does not use Boeing's CH-47 Chinook.

List of Boeing CH-47 Chinook operators
Argentina (former)
Australia
Canada
Egypt
Greece
Iran
Italy
Japan
Libya
Morocco
Netherlands
Oman
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
South Korea
South Vietnam (former)
Spain
Taiwan
Thailand
United Kingdom - See Boeing Chinook (UK variants)
United Arab Emirates
United States of America
Vietnam (former)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CH-47_Chinook#Operators
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Nobody: 2:54pm On Sep 25, 2014
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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Themandator: 3:07pm On Sep 25, 2014
RockMaxi:


Federal government over to you... shocked tongue
Breeze must blow here today. grin grin


I was hoping to read a direct statement from the US official expressly denying any blockade instead it is a so called expert who works with neither Israeli nor us Security.

Just another glorified internet freak speaking On what he knows nothing about.

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Nobody: 3:08pm On Sep 25, 2014
This FG is the most unprofessional in the history of this country

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by BraniacX(m): 3:09pm On Sep 25, 2014
tinkinjow: There's truth in that story carried by thisday. The US knows how to cover their tracks well so you can never beat them especially in matters of this nature. Very soon you may likely hear the Israelis towing the same lines and those who don't understand these games will foolishly laugh at our military.
One thing is clear, America wanted a situation Nigeria will virtually beg them for assistance or outright intervention in this war. But just like Nigeria continue to surpass their expectations, that isn't happening
my brother GOD bless u jare! unfortunately, i stand to be corrected, majority(up to 80%) of nigerians take these things at face value and will gobble up any nonsense spewed out by foreign media and diplomats because they are foreign and therefore trustworthy forgetting that all countries(esp western and middle eastern) have thier own agendas concerning Africa which don't conform with Africa's agenda for itself be it neo-colonialism,jihadism e.t.c and will use every tool at thier disposal to achieve this including the media and N.G.0's.
Many Nigerians know but pretend to be unaware that the u.s has always wanted Nigeria to be a subservient vassal country to them but we have always been too big and too strong to allow that. At a time, russia and the U.K also had that attitude towards us but today to many intents and purposes, they have stopped that after seeing our "potential greatness" but unfortunately, america and americans consider themselves a class above the rest and have never stopped trying to undermine succesive Nigerian goverments because we are powerfull in Africa, don't tow thier line and we're non-aligned. They have been predicting doomsday scenarios for Nigeria including violent disintegration, al-quaeda style terrorist groups e.t.c for a long time and who is to say they don't go the extra mile to make thier predictions guaranteed? hmmm, just saying sha oh! Never the less, we have always and will continue to always dissapoint them.
Also we need to unite as Nigerians because the forces pitched in battle against us(both overt and covert) are many and great.




Nigeria. . . . . . . . . confounding the U.S, the west and thier think-tanks is 1800.

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Nobody: 3:16pm On Sep 25, 2014
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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Wallie(m): 3:18pm On Sep 25, 2014
What most people fail to realize is that countries rarely give away valuable things for free unless through non-profit organizations. When you have a country that does not need the money from an outright sale of equipment to you, they start attaching other conditions that money can't buy.

For example, when Nigeria did not allow AFRICOM, do you think that made the U.S. happy? As a person, if you fail to help me in my time of need when I know you're capable of doing so, why should I help you when you need me? Why shouldn't I treat you with scorn? Why should I go out of my way to help you? Do you think you're the only ones with feelings? You cannot claim to be my friend only when you need me.

Generally speaking, the U.S. Government controls exports of sensitive equipment, software and technology, and any company needs to make sure that they're not running afoul of the law because the penalties are severe even for dual-use items. You need a pre-license checks and post-shipment verification. If found in violation, you will be subjected to both criminal and civil penalties.

For weapons export control violations, there's a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million per violation and, for an individual person, up to 10 years imprisonment. It can also result in civil fine of $500,000 per violation, as well as debarment from exporting defense articles or services.

For dual-use export control violations, criminal penalties can be up to a maximum of $500,000 per violation and, for an individual person, up to 10 years imprisonment. Dual-use violations can also be subject to civil fines up to $12,000 per violation.
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Nobody: 3:18pm On Sep 25, 2014
BadBoy25: If I were the president,I would order my agents to track down the ip address and location of anyone who talks shit about the US or spreads any stvpid rebellious pan african or afro centric ideas like Rossike, cap28,etc.
sneak into their homes at night and shoot them in the head with a silencer while they sleep or poison their food and juice in the fridge. angry angry cool

LMAO grin James Badboy 0025
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Nobody: 3:24pm On Sep 25, 2014
Aigbofa:

This is the problem with Nigeria. Must we go cap in hand for everything? And when we don't get what we want we start throwing tantrums. Ask other countries they will start talking about their national interest and some are prepared to go to war to protect them. What are the Nigerian interest? We produced crude oil and rely on other countries to get in refined and we blame other countries for working against us.
Unfortunately we neither have International Interest nor National Interest !!!

Retrogressive development is it !!

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Centrifude(m): 3:27pm On Sep 25, 2014
I can not believe that many of you people believe this story, I'm with Nigeria on this one, Americans are the most cunning and deceitful bust*rds on Earth, the U.S is well known for saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite, and then they publicly deny doing it.

If the U.S was really helping Nigeria, why would Nigerian officials claim that the Americans are refusing to share intel about Boko-Haram with that, if someone was helping you would you go as far as risking your countries reputation by telling journalist that the person who claims to be helping you is doing anything at all?

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by BraniacX(m): 3:27pm On Sep 25, 2014
BadBoy25: who gives a fvck about your opinions? the population of nigeria must be reduced from 170 million to 10 million by 2030. stop breeding like rabbits.

If I were the president of the USA,I would order the spraying of poisonous gas across Nigeria. aids &ebola infected mosquitoes with a 1 week lifespan must be flown by a drone and released in the nigerian atmosphere.
shut the fvck up you dirty,stinking numbskulls,your opinions does not matter. angry angry cool
our opinions don't matter? news flash pigshit! neither does yours.
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America has a population of 300 million plus right? So, in the spirit of fairness ur population should be reduced to say 18 million by 2020 using the same means you advocated above + nile fever + plague + chemical and biological weapons stockpiles fail + nuclear weapons stockpiles and nuclear reactor fail and we'll gladly follow suit in 2040. abi how una see am?
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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by gbishman: 3:35pm On Sep 25, 2014
The US are completely correct the Israeli Air force does not have a chinook in their fleet of heavy lifting helicopters you can go ahead and wiki it. So what the hell are we talking about. The Chinook is sole an American craft and used solely by them.

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Nobody: 3:49pm On Sep 25, 2014
F117A: You are a moronn.
The US,russia and china are not sane nations when they sell billion dollar worth of weapons every year?
Ignorant toad.
Next time dont contribute in issues beyond your intellect.
I can't even understand you , fool !

Cuz you aint speaking to my point here and I think you are under the scorching sun else how could you be this blind, dumb and silly !!

I said ''No sane nation'' will put the security of her country in the hands of another nation !!

Lemme break it down to the level your animalistic brain could comprehend , you this stubborn He -goatie ....

The security of Russia is not dependent on US, that of US is not dependent on China , that of China is not dependent on British, That of British is not dependent on India ........ They may have economic dependency but not Military ....... Even NATO members especially US,UK,Germany,France and Canada can boast of sophisticated Military tools made in their country tongue

and I conclude that :

''No sane nation would put her security on the hand of another nation cuz your sovereignty in one way or the other can be tampered with '' !!

Kindly alert a member of your folks to come and break my english down for you in your dialect cuz it seems my gbaga dey run u mental

grin grin tongue ...

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by CrinkumCrankum: 4:12pm On Sep 25, 2014
Sincere9gerian: Nigerians are the worst enemy of Nigeria. There is nothing in the report suggesting specifically that the US actually denied blocking the sale of CH-47 Chinook transport aircraft to Nigeria.
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by CrinkumCrankum: 4:24pm On Sep 25, 2014
OrlandoOwoh:
Did you read the OP? Dan said Israel doesn't have the plane.

Who told you its the same Arm(Chinook) we are buying from Israel....Nigerian should be wise enough, ...The News is that we tried getting Chinook from USA they said no, then we look up to another country Israel for other possible replacement, NA never mentioned the particular weapon they are buying from Israel...Americans can never fool me, am too smart for them

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Nobody: 4:39pm On Sep 25, 2014
CrinkumCrankum:

Who told you its the same Arm(Chinook) we are buying from Israel....Nigerian should be wise enough, ...The News is that we tried getting Chinook from USA they said no, then we look up to another country Israel for other possible replacement, NA never mentioned the particular weapon they are buying from Israel...Americans can never fool me, am too smart for them

Sorry, the text in bold cracked me up, and I just had to laugh.

You're definitely a crinkum-crankum! grin

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Nobody: 4:54pm On Sep 25, 2014
BlackTechnology:
I repeat you never studied any course related to engineering-technology

According to the law of engineering-technology,

Never say it is impossible when you have not tried many times and when you try and fail many times, just say it might be impossible today and be possible tomorrow



Your view is wrong because we are yet to try

I don't know which part of Nigeria you come from but you sound like someone who comes from a part of Nigeria that do not believe in Black man technological capacity


I repeat


#InvolveOurHigherInstitutions InWeaponsDevelopment
I don't think any nation should possess more technological skills than Africa .... The secret to Technology all abound but the economic focus is not there and nobody is there thus we have all abandoned breakthrough but all chasing :

Oil Money cheesy !!
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by gogodaye(m): 5:28pm On Sep 25, 2014
See the Americans filibusting...leaving Nigerians & the Nigerian government hanging in the lurch in our hour of dire need................
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by Lilimax(f): 5:30pm On Sep 25, 2014
Sincere9gerian: Nigerians are the worst enemy of Nigeria. There is nothing in the report suggesting specifically that the US actually denied blocking the sale of CH-47 Chinook transport aircraft to Nigeria.
I'm sure not may people will read this article. undecidedembarassed
Most people's will comment will be base on the heading smiley
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by NIGERIALOLoCOM(m): 5:53pm On Sep 25, 2014
He, however, declined to give any assurance of a mutual complement of arms purchase policy that is not in conformity with that of his country and its interests.
“U.S. Departments of State and Defense review all potential arms transfers for their consistency with US policy and interests, as detailed in the US Conventional Arms Transfer Policy, updated by President Obama in January.
This includes any requests for one country to transfer US-origin defence items to another country,” McIntosh said, emphasising that he could not comment on any specific application of the policy.

Mogidi: Is the above not a hint they ordered Israel not to deal with us?

One fellow that read in between the lines spotted. Surely not everyone can be mislead by American Half Truths and misinformation.

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Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by NIGERIALOLoCOM(m): 5:57pm On Sep 25, 2014
SpaceWorld2013: I'm ashamed of this govt, if truly US did that, it means they're not with Jonathan this time because of the obvious corruption

Open your eyes to half truths. They are terribly misleading.

He, however, declined to give any assurance of a mutual complement of arms purchase policy that is not in conformity with that of his country and its interests.
“U.S. Departments of State and Defense review all potential arms transfers for their consistency with US policy and interests, as detailed in the US Conventional Arms Transfer Policy, updated by President Obama in January.
This includes any requests for one country to transfer US-origin defence items to another country,” McIntosh said, emphasising that he could not comment on any specific application of the policy.
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by esere826: 6:01pm On Sep 25, 2014
Stupid inference
dumb analysis

yes, govt might be telling lies
but no where in this article did the insane gutter journalist even feebly state that any authorised US official denied blocking FG's purported desire to purchase war crafts.

Extremely mischievous or brain-deprived fella the writer is



...anyways, it serves Goodluck right
as he has decided to foolishly point to his none-interference with the judiciary as an alibi for unprecedented unpunished corruption under his watch
we could all as well distort society with falsehood and criminality and expect to smile to the bank

....fucktards both
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by esere826: 6:19pm On Sep 25, 2014
and who the stunted fuk is Dan’Iyan??


Shiet.... another daft analysis he gave
i don't need to use skirts to sell them
even bibles we read are sold by none xtians from none xtian countries
trade does not operate that way

sick folks
Re: US Denies Blocking Fg’s Purchase Of War Aircraft by esere826: 6:37pm On Sep 25, 2014
mbulela: Meanwhile, Mukhtar Dan’Iyan, the editor-in-chief of the 15Past8 Media Group based in New York City, who is also an expert on Africa and Middle East policy and security gave his opinion on the matter in a tweet he posted.
Dan’Iyan wrote, “Israel does not use CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, so selling surplus (or any stock) to Nigeria or any other nation is not even a possibility. The story about USA blocking the sale of non-existent equipment from Israel is therefore non-sequitur.
“Incidentally, Israel uses the Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion as its heavy transport helicopter, and Boeing would do anything to get that business for its Chinook,” he wrote.


Unrefined liars in power.
My problem is not the government keeps feeding us lies at every turn, my issue is that the lies are not even properly researched. They just lie on the run,as if it does not matter whether we believe or not.

the guy Mukhtar is no expert in nothing especially trade
now you do some research on him and his so called website

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