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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by ifaoni(m): 6:31am On Sep 29, 2014
haha.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Nobody: 7:02am On Sep 29, 2014
APC better conduct a primary o. They should show why they are a better democratic choice for Nigerians.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by gbengaabiola: 7:03am On Sep 29, 2014
That is why dey can't never rule Nigeria, APC who can not control internally, I always The Saviour party for common man in Nigeria is yet to be created, imagine the two losers are there, they are losing already, that God most of their bokoboko are surrendering b4 2015 but after dey lose coming 2015 what will dey use to fight again? after dey lose, Nigerian don't waste ur votes GEJ till 2019 while 2019 Okorocha will become d next President under PDP so Northerners relax after Okorocha ie Gods message to Nigerian

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Akingbiz: 7:04am On Sep 29, 2014
lanrexdo: I knew that there was going to be a clash over the presidency especially that Atiku. He has nothing meaningful to offer. You cant just come from no where and claim the Ticket. The reason the merger of CPC and ACN was successful was because acn had no presidential aspirant and cpc under GMB want to add to his own vote.. So you can't just come from no where and steal GMB's dream. I guess at the end of the day, Mr Atiku will port to another party because that is what he does. He wants the presidential ticket by fire by force. It should have been GMB that should have announced first for his presidential ambition not Atiku. They want to have unlimited power,fame and wealth. That is the highest they can ever attain when you become the president of country. They have both tasted power and know how it feels. they want to continue the large life of lawlessness. That is all i feel about this so call people who wants to be Nigeria Top Boss. The only person i have seen who has a dream for this country is GMB. The rest are just bunch of senseless people who wants nothing but power and loot our already damaged economy dry.
Bro, how come u are the only person that made sense on this thread. God we still have ppl like this on nairaland.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by gratieao: 7:06am On Sep 29, 2014
slydog: Only Adams Oshiomole can win Gej, but APC, dem go gree?
You guyz should stop overrating this man. Oshiomole will not even GEJ in Edo state in free $ fair election

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Akingbiz: 7:08am On Sep 29, 2014
Raiders: APC should not allow Atiku and buhari represent their party. Buhari has lost the last 3 elections ( I wonder why he still want to contest ) and Atiku has lost 2 elections. APC should field a popular candidate that can win election. Atiku and Buhari don't stand a chance against GEJ
and who told u that failure is not a step to success. Look very well and u see abraham licoln step to presidency and add that to buhari then tell me what u've got. Yeah!!! I see it ppl charting BUHARI 4 PRESIDENT.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Lightening: 7:11am On Sep 29, 2014
lanrexdo: I knew that there was going to be a clash over the presidency especially that Atiku. He has nothing meaningful to offer. You cant just come from no where and claim the Ticket. The reason the merger of CPC and ACN was successful was because acn had no presidential aspirant and cpc under GMB want to add to his own vote.. So you can't just come from no where and steal GMB's dream. I guess at the end of the day, Mr Atiku will port to another party because that is what he does. He wants the presidential ticket by fire by force. It should have been GMB that should have announced first for his presidential ambition not Atiku. They want to have unlimited power,fame and wealth. That is the highest they can ever attain when you become the president of country. They have both tasted power and know how it feels. they want to continue the large life of lawlessness. That is all i feel about this so call people who wants to be Nigeria Top Boss. The only person i have seen who has a dream for this country is GMB. The rest are just bunch of senseless people who wants nothing but power and loot our already damaged economy dry.

None of these two top contenders is sellable. So all these noise was about recycling some disreputable and expired politicians on Nigerians once again. Where will the change come from? If the like of Oshiomole, Tambuwal, Fashola are not considered for the presidency under APC, I fear.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by gratieao: 7:12am On Sep 29, 2014
cococandy: To me modified primaries makes more sense.
Who'll take care of the consensus candidacy elections? INEC?
Buhari better get real.
20,000 is not a small number. if he has faith in his followership,then why is he afraid? Or doesn't he trust them?
Anyone that really support him shouldn't be bought over with money unless na fake supporters he get.
Buhari is Overrated.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Nobody: 7:17am On Sep 29, 2014
Atiku is in APC as the spoiler. I think he has his eyes on 2019 post - GEJ second term. The plan is this, get APC ticket. If not, decamp to PDP and help GEJ return. Then come back for PDP ticket in 2019.

GMB cannot defeat Atiku in any primaries whether by direct primaries (he could buy the Governors and Chairmen) or by indirect delegates (20,000 is a walk -over). Remember, he practically handed MKO the SDP ticket in 1993.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Baawaa(m): 7:21am On Sep 29, 2014
APC,Nigerians are waiting for your presidential candidate.We don't want a PDP candidate,because PDP is the main problem of this nation.
P D P--------Problems
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Nikapetrelli(f): 7:21am On Sep 29, 2014
Obynomusik: Space reserved till my oga @ d top gives order grin
That head is wat we call back of Tv or isi egbe
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by fatboyslym007: 7:24am On Sep 29, 2014
I am not a fan of d 9ja politiks... but I must say this... Nigerians don't vote APC to power they r going to be worse than the PDP... I don't understand why 9jarians can't see APC party for wat it really is... APC is a desperate party, a party without principles or a vision.. If u want recognition 4m APC just start criticizing d ruling party regardless of ur criminal records u r welcome... these r the few things I suspect will happen if APC gets to rule d country :
a) increase in state murders especially oppositions
b) opposition states would be systematically deprived of funds
c) increase impunity, looting , corruption, press abuse we will b worse than d first republic.
d) by d next election no single state would host an opposition...
etc... PDP is a devil we know APC is an angel of questionable xter. vote anoda party vote labour/PDP/apga etc, vote to be without a President... don't I repeat don't vote a desperate party into power... APC criticized jona 4 being indecisive wen BH started... Wen he declared a state of emergency he was also criticized... APC will jump at any flaw with desperation... read dia past oppositions... DONT VOTE APC 2 POWER... LONG LIVE NAIJA

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by eunisam: 7:26am On Sep 29, 2014
Seems atiku is broke

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Nobody: 7:30am On Sep 29, 2014
Akingbiz: and who told u that failure is not a step to success. Look very well and u see abraham licoln step to presidency and add that to buhari then tell me what u've got. Yeah!!! I see it ppl charting BUHARI 4 PRESIDENT.

GMG supporters are quick to refer to Abraham Lincoln story. Please re-read the story. Lincoln was a legend who paid his dues and not just a military

opportunist who wants power at the top. Lincoln defended democracy and hallowed it but GMD desecrated it. I am wondering what moral rights

has GMB to aspire to lead under a democratic setting?

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by harrysterol(m): 7:39am On Sep 29, 2014
ochilikoko: We say no to consensus candidacy. Let there be primary election in our party.
My fear is that the ppls General might not make it in the primary hence,making GEJ unopposed as two Atiku cannever win the annointed man Goodluck.

I'm seriously perceiving massive failure of APC next year hence,I hereby, defect to the ruling party as they seems more organise and I can't afford to belong to losers party.

GEJ till 20019
like seriously cheesy

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by GWslim(f): 7:40am On Sep 29, 2014
MY PRAYER TO GOD IS TO GIVING US A GOD FEARING LEADER IN 2015
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Tonylyte(m): 7:42am On Sep 29, 2014
Raiders: APC should not allow Atiku and buhari represent their party. Buhari has lost the last 3 elections ( I wonder why he still want to contest ) and Atiku has lost 2 elections. APC should field a popular candidate that can win election. Atiku and Buhari don't stand a chance against GEJ
No, they should allow atiku contest to equal buhari's record of defeat.
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by rasputinn(m): 7:43am On Sep 29, 2014
GHEN GHEN

Front row seat booked,,,,,,,,,, cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Wislet(f): 7:44am On Sep 29, 2014
PS SOMEONE SHOULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THOUGHT APC WAS AGAINST PDP's CONCENSUS CANDIDACY, HOW IS IT THAT THEY WANT ONE FOR THEIR PARTY NOW?

OR IS IT A CASE OF WEAK-WILLED OPPOSITION? After promising and emphasizing they'll maintain 'DEMOCRACY' by allowing those interested to run, are they singing another tune now?

I don't get this party. They claim uprightness, 'the best thing to happen to Nigeria', democratic, etc, yet they dance according to the tune of the same people they insult, criticise and so passionately oppose.

Are they all not the same thing then?
WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT(if at all there is).

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by cliffm43: 7:49am On Sep 29, 2014
voting APC is voting ISIS..............the Muslims are not human beings,so whosoever that is voting for atiku and buhari is selling his or birth to become an Islamic state member,...you know what that mean??

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by viczing(m): 7:52am On Sep 29, 2014
Grinder: all these PDP moderators...they only post about APC`s downfalls and fights... there is God ooo.... shocked shocked shocked

Janjanweed

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by pat077: 7:58am On Sep 29, 2014
The begining of the end for APC.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by CyberWolf: 8:00am On Sep 29, 2014
cococandy: To me modified primaries makes more sense.
Who'll take care of the consensus candidacy elections? INEC?
Buhari better get real.
20,000 is not a small number. if he has faith in his followership,then why is he afraid? Or doesn't he trust them?
Anyone that really support him shouldn't be bought over with money unless na fake supporters he get.
your head dey there jare...

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Nobody: 8:01am On Sep 29, 2014
networkgenuis: The All Progressives Congress, APC was at the weekend headed for a serious crisis following strong reservations among its major presidential candidates over the procedure for adopting the 2015 presidential candidate for the party.

At the end of a National Executive Committee, NEC meeting of the party last weekend, the party was unable to forge a consensus on the issue with associates of the major aspirants reportedly holding on to their positions.
Two of the major presidential aspirants, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari and former vice-president Atiku Abubakar,
Vanguard learnt were at the head of the major divisions over the adoption of a consensus or the conduct of primaries for the adoption of the presidential candidate. The other major aspirants, notably, Governor Rabiu Kwankwanso of Kano State and Mr. Sam Nda-Isaiah are reportedly indifferent.

Yesterday, aides of Governor Adams Oshiomhole of Edo State, who is also set to enter the fray were largely mute on the issue, as one said it was too premature to express a position given the fact the governor is yet to formally declare his intention.

Buhari wants consensus candidacy.
Party sources disclosed that Buhari’s associates in the party were pushing for consensus on the fact that majority of the party positions across board were filled with consensus. On the other hand, the Buhari supporters are praying that if the consensus arrangement is jettisoned for any reason that a direct primary involving all 18 million registered members of the party be held.

Their point is being strongly opposed by Atiku’s growing supporters within the party hierarchy who say that a direct primary would be unwieldy, costly. Rather, the Atiku camp has proposed what it called a Modified Direct Primary that would involve about 20,000 delegates choosing the party candidate. That prospect is feared by the Buhari camp who claimed that it would offer opportunity to easily woo or take over delegates hitherto pledged to other aspirants.

According to the Buhari supporters, the introduction of full direct primary would limit the prospect of Atiku wooing the delegates unlike a modified primary that could see Atiku and his agents now in the field winning the number of delegates.
[b]“Having carefully examined our great party” the APC constitution, especially Article 20 and the Electoral Act 2010, one comes to the inevitable conclusion that it is better to adopt consensus in electing our candidates for House of Assembly, House of Representatives, Senate, Governor and presidential candidates and where it fails to adopt direct primary,” a major Buhari supporter in the NEC told selected newsmen last weekend.

“It is on record that more than 80% of the ward, local government area and state congresses which produced the current executives of our great party were conducted through consensual arrangement. And more than 95% of the current National Executive Committee were elected via consensus,” he said
“When one considers the bitterness, rancour and bad blood indirect primary will most likely generate, it becomes safer to work towards a consensual agreement. We must at all times bear in mind that we are being hunted and that those who boasted to rule Nigeria for 60 years uninterrupted, are still hell bent to scuttle the yearnings and aspirations of Nigerians for genuine ideological regime change.
“We must take note that our challenger, the ruling party has just announced the nomination of the incumbent President as its candidate by consensus means and they had commenced presidential campaign with vigour and dexterity”.[/b]

Atiku at the weekend, however, pledged his determination to abide by any democratic procedure adopted by the party even as he canvassed the advantages of the Modified Direct Primaries.
In an email statement issued to correspondents on the issue by his media aide, Mallam Garba Shehu, the Atiku camp said:

[b]“Our candidate is a democrat. What he is opposed to is any undemocratic process going by the name of consensus, imposition or anointment. Back in the PDP, if you remember, he dragged the party to court and won on these issues with a resounding victory.
Atiku’s camp proposes Modified Direct Primary
“The decision of our campaign to support the Modified Direct Primary is not because of anything but for its practical applicability.
“If you say you want direct primary, how can you get all 18 million registered APC voters to take part?
“That would mean you will be setting up a vote in every polling booth, doing the same thing as INEC is doing. It will be the same thing as a general election.Where do you have the resources, the manpower, the time and the security support for this?”
“Secondly, don’t forget that the figure of the registered members is not a settled issue in many states. There are many places in which it is being disputed. Besides, it keeps changing everyday. New members are coming in and some are also leaving us. How do you deal with this?”

“Those who argue for direct primaries also need to factor in the fact that there is no way you take the process from the hands of governors if you allow it to take place in the states. Genuine fears on the part of some people is that in nearly each state, they may just end up writing the results or where this is not possible, breathe down on the necks of local officials to do as they wish.”
“The Modified Direct Primary cannot on the other hand be faulted as being undemocratic because the delegates coming forward, as proposed, are all elected officials. There is no dispute concerning their status as elected officials. For this reason alone, they are credible because they are representative of their wards. We support it because we believe it is broad enough to make for popular representation.”
“Even at this, 20,000 delegates is still a large number to bring under one roof, considering that even the PDP brings together between four to five thousands delegates only for the their presidential primaries.”[/b]
 

Though there is no much difference between consensus and the modified primaries of 20,000 because both still offers room for financial christmas. But I will go with Buhari on this for secondly offering a Primaries involving the whole 18 million members of APC. I see justice in Buhari and pranks in Atiku. Based on this, my Advice to APC is that they should use Buhari as consensus candidate because this differential view as just giving us an insight of who is the most corrupt. I did not mention name o

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by pat077: 8:02am On Sep 29, 2014
Wislet: PS SOMEONE SHOULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THOUGHT APC WAS AGAINST PDP's CONCENSUS CANDIDACY, HOW IS IT THAT THEY WANT ONE FOR THEIR PARTY NOW?

OR IS IT A CASE OF WEAK-WILLED OPPOSITION? After promising and emphasizing they'll maintain 'DEMOCRACY' by allowing those interested to run, are they singing another tune now?

I don't get this party. They claim uprightness, 'the best thing to happen to Nigeria', democratic, etc, yet they dance according to the tune of the same people they insult, criticise and so passionately oppose.

Are they all not the same thing then?
WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT(if at all there is).
The difference btw PDP & APC is just the name.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by IbokUtoroh(m): 8:04am On Sep 29, 2014
obo389:
Thank you.that is why I suport an oshiomole candidacy.he's gona giv GEJ the run for his money.





even if APC adopts oshio which can never be possible, baba oshio will vote for GEJ.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by IbokUtoroh(m): 8:06am On Sep 29, 2014
emmasege: Atiku will soon after d primaries release a statement that APC is not better PDP, but rather worse. However, shame wouldn't let him go back to d PDP.







SHAME for atiku dicktionary, ,mba e no dey!

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by chuksmarvin(m): 8:11am On Sep 29, 2014
The only unfortunate thing is corrupt and ominously suspecting as it may sound, atiku's suggestion still is the most logically reasonable....I do not wish both of them well...
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Kbdon(m): 8:11am On Sep 29, 2014
THE BEST TING APC CAN DO IS FOR BUHARI TO B LIKE gOD FATHER ND THEY SHOULD ADOPT DR RABIU MUSA KWANKWASO FOR PRESIDENT

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by MarshRiley(m): 8:12am On Sep 29, 2014
All this one na story,if APC wants me to vote them,they should bring Fashola as there presidential Candidate,Atiku and Buhari will never get my vote...God forbid bad thing
Recycled desperados who want power by force,make una come snatch am na undecided

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