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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by jpphilips(m): 3:19pm On Sep 29, 2014
lanrexdo: I knew that there was going to be a clash over the presidency especially that Atiku. He has nothing meaningful to offer. You cant just come from no where and claim the Ticket. The reason the merger of CPC and ACN was successful was because acn had no presidential aspirant and cpc under GMB want to add to his own vote.. So you can't just come from no where and steal GMB's dream. I guess at the end of the day, Mr Atiku will port to another party because that is what he does. He wants the presidential ticket by fire by force. It should have been GMB that should have announced first for his presidential ambition not Atiku. They want to have unlimited power,fame and wealth. That is the highest they can ever attain when you become the president of country. They have both tasted power and know how it feels. they want to continue the large life of lawlessness. That is all i feel about this so call people who wants to be Nigeria Top Boss. The only person i have seen who has a dream for this country is GMB. The rest are just bunch of senseless people who wants nothing but power and loot our already damaged economy dry.

You seem not to get, I think GMB feels his terms in the merger is somehow truncated while he nurses a little fear that Atiku has the financial muscle to bribe elected delegates, he has done it with PDP and can do it again

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Belmot(m): 3:26pm On Sep 29, 2014
major466:
He's humble and down to earth for Nigeria.
So na humble and down to earth go fix Nigeria

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by jpphilips(m): 3:29pm On Sep 29, 2014
RoyalRoy: Lollz.


This is the most difficult time for the APC party since its existence. Nominating a presidential candidate will sure end up in a split of diverse interest. This will be the greatest challenge for the party since its formation.


Watching how this will turn out in the end.


You are right to a great extent, i only feel sorry for deluded Nigerians that are quick to jump on the band wagon, APC is a party without ideology, people like Atiku should be ousted with sound political strategy, APC should first vet their manifesto to see if they have what it takes to tackle the nation's challenges, we are tired of clowns in our political space who are only trouble shooting Nigeria like a dead generator.
APC can stand on the Ideology that they will only candidates that have the solution to Nigeria's problem in practical terms should be allowed to run.
You will be surprised how Atiku will disappear.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Osyfellaini(f): 3:49pm On Sep 29, 2014
In my opinion I feel the modified direct primaries is best for the party now because of the fund that will be zapped in the direct primaries where all the over 18 millions registered party members will take part. About are democrat but for the sake of fund and time the modified best suit the party now bearing in mind that the party does not have the kind of fund the ruling party does but what we are totally against is the consensus method which is totally undemocratic.
Atiku is a democrat and will support any democratic method the party adopts, But in my opinion Atiku remains the party's best bet to dislodge the PDP and President Jonathan in the next general election.
Atiku is my choice and will always be, Because I see him as the CHANGE and HOPE of the common man.
Buhari always thinking of cutting corners but this time nothing for him.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by olufunmibi(m): 3:49pm On Sep 29, 2014
Atiku is corrupt, the international community has acknowledged it, Buhari is set in his ways and somewhat inflexible. But between the 2, Atiku is the better politician.

And the guys that are relishing the development and hastily thinking it would make 2015 a cake walk for Goodluck Jonathan, you may be in for a surprise.

Gentlemen, dont forget JEGA MANOUVRE o! How many polling booths dey the whole of South Nigeria? How many dey Northern Nigeria?

It is not yet Uhuru. But whichever way the pendulum swings it is not going to be a victory for the people of Nigeria, whether PDP wins, or APC wins, it is going to be a victory for the political elites alone.

But im sick of GEJ, that is my personal opinion, and im not the only person with that prejudice. Im just sick of GEJ. Dazzol.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by lanrexdo(m): 3:57pm On Sep 29, 2014
That is why he wants it to be between the 18 million apc delegate and not just some 20,000 which can be easily be bribed.

jpphilips:

You seem not to get, I think GMB feels his terms in the merger is somehow truncated while he nurses a little fear that Atiku has the financial muscle to bribe elected delegates, he has done it with PDP and can do it again
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Osyfellaini(f): 4:02pm On Sep 29, 2014
In my opinion I feel the modified direct primaries is best for the party now because of the fund that will be zapped in the direct primaries where all the over 18 millions registered party members will take part. About are democrat but for the sake of fund and time the modified best suit the party now bearing in mind that the party does not have the kind of fund the ruling party does but what we are totally against is the consensus method which is totally undemocratic.
Atiku is a democrat and will support any democratic method the party adopts, But in my opinion Atiku remains the party's best bet to dislodge the PDP and President Jonathan in the next general election.
Atiku is my choice and will always be, Because I see him as the CHANGE and HOPE of the common man.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by jpphilips(m): 4:05pm On Sep 29, 2014
APC is a disgrace, A party of Fashola and Oshiomole is fielding Buhari and Atiku, imagine the insult to Nigerians!!

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by ISpiksDaTroof: 4:20pm On Sep 29, 2014
networkgenuis: On the other hand, the Buhari supporters are praying that if the consensus arrangement is jettisoned for any reason that a direct primary involving all 18 million registered members of the party be held [/b]
 

They are praying?! How does he know what their hopes are? Oh, he's God now? Hmnnn

These are the kind of Amateurs that shouldn't be allowed anywhere close to the dissemination of information to the masses what with their presumtive journalism.
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by daroz(m): 4:34pm On Sep 29, 2014
Lets face the fact..
Buhari can never win Atiku in any primaries (whether modified or general). Atiku has the cash and knows how to reach anyone through the back door. Buhari on the other hand is too decent and direct. And as we all know, this is Nigeria. In polities, if u don't play dirty , express go leave you.
This is what Buhari is trying to avoid.

On the other hand Atiku (raised to power 10) can not win GEJ's driver, talkless of the boss himself.

Ask me why..... I go tell u

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by ISpiksDaTroof: 5:10pm On Sep 29, 2014
Raiders: APC should not allow Atiku and buhari represent their party. Buhari has lost the last 3 elections ( I wonder why he still want to contest ) and Atiku has lost 2 elections. APC should field a popular candidate that can win election. Atiku and Buhari don't stand a chance against GEJ
Personally, I think both men will perform better than GEJ if in his position but for different reasons.

Atiku is astute and very intelligent. But he's a crook. For that I don't like him. I worked in Govt. Atikus files both in the U.S and Nigeria are a mile high. You don't want someone like that close to the treasury of a country like Nigeria, he will tear it apart and gnaw at its bones. He's too greedy. And thats why Obasanjo hated him. To let you know how insatiable Atikus greed is; his tentacles spread so long that a very respected United States Congressman is currently serving 13 years in Federal Prison after being linked to a bribery scandal involving him and Atiku. Louisiana's first black congressman since the end of Reconstruction, got his life destroyed for coming close to Atiku. I wish Nigerians could see men like Atiku for who they really are. In normal countries people like Atiku wouldn't even aspire to be "Chief garbage eater" because people won't find him credible enough to even eat their trash.


Buhari has "lost" thrice, true, but remember that two of those elections were very questionable. So questionable that even the winner of one of the elections, after being sworn in as President, admitted that the "elections" which brought him into power,was severely flawed and had been rigged in his favor. But, hey, it's Nigeria we're talking about.

I believe that Buhari is electable. Nigeria, in the end, still plays tribal politics. The North is aggrieved, the South West also feels left out. Added to this is also the fact that South Westerners are angry that it's brightest minds are left out of Govt while Gej openly cavorts with the criminals in its midst. I.e Buruji Kashamu.

I believe if a man like Fashola should run with Buhari then it's over for GEJ. Attempts at Religious divide and attempts at spreading Islamophobia, I think, will not sway the Yorubas.

This is time for serious negotiations. If Buhari agrees to rule for one term(hes old anyway) and pass the baton to the younger generation (Fashola, Oshiomole, Okorocha, Amaechi, Sam Ndiah etc) then I think it's a go, the party should make him their consensus candidate.

I just don't want to see Atiku anywhere close to the Nigerian Treasury. Nigeria needs to be set on the right path and it can only really start developing by first fighting corruption, AGGRESSIVELY. A newbie like Fashola won't dare do it. He can't even look Tinubu in the face, you think he is going to go against those old gangstas in the North?! It's obvious you kids don't know your country at all. Buhari can look them in the face and call their bluff because they have nothing against him linking him to corrupt practices.

Buhari can do major cleanup of corruption in 4yrs while Fashola supervises the Economy. It's a winning duo if you ask me.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Kagarko(m): 5:17pm On Sep 29, 2014
lanrexdo: I knew that there was going to be a clash over the presidency especially that Atiku. He has nothing meaningful to offer. You cant just come from no where and claim the Ticket. The reason the merger of CPC and ACN was successful was because acn had no presidential aspirant and cpc under GMB want to add to his own vote.. So you can't just come from no where and steal GMB's dream. I guess at the end of the day, Mr Atiku will port to another party because that is what he does. He wants the presidential ticket by fire by force. It should have been GMB that should have announced first for his presidential ambition not Atiku. They want to have unlimited power,fame and wealth. That is the highest they can ever attain when you become the president of country. They have both tasted power and know how it feels. they want to continue the large life of lawlessness. That is all i feel about this so call people who wants to be Nigeria Top Boss. The only person i have seen who has a dream for this country is GMB. The rest are just bunch of senseless people who wants nothing but power and loot our already damaged economy dry.
The only surviving true democrat Nigeria have is Atiku. Of all the politicians that Nigeria have the only person that believe so much on true democracy and political freedom and he so much believe in the Nigerian project. but unfortunately he is a Capitalist and is having so much international influence. If giving the chance he will continue the real transformation that was started by OBJ. To err is human and Atiku is a human which could have his ups and downs.

On the other hand Buhari The People's General is a socialist and is at per with capitalism. The truth remains that the people s general lack the 21st century technical know how to run this country more especially that he cannot win in the southern part of the country.

To be candid between Buhari and Atiku I will definitely go for Buhari.
Vying presidency isn't like vying governorship where electorate are localized. And one of the major factor worthy of consederation is that presidential is a capital intensive project and lacks the billions to spend during campaign.
Bross May Almighty Allah Help us in this country.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by JEITO: 5:21pm On Sep 29, 2014
The only thing APC is interested in is wrestling power off PDP. No plans on how to rule the country no wonder they are not looking at a fashola that would have performed best of all their candidates.

They'll rather look at him who will guarantee them much votes from the north.


APC!!! Disaster waiting to happen!
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Akiika: 7:29pm On Sep 29, 2014
So so sad, is this really an opposition party? Nigeria is on a one chance bus.
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by ayindejimmy(m): 7:57pm On Sep 29, 2014
This's definitely Democracy in action. They av diverse interests but must compromise for the good of all. Not in cases where evry other candidates sell out.
My opinion, Atiku is a spoiler and a time bomb in APC waitin to detonate.
When FFK, Ribadu and Ikimi left he's one mole i'm awaitin his exit frm d party which wnt be out of place judgin by his anticednts
1, Gej will be prayin Atiku emerge as APC flagbearer.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by ayindejimmy(m): 8:13pm On Sep 29, 2014
JEITO: The only thing APC is interested in is wrestling power off PDP. No plans on how to rule the country no wonder they are not looking at a fashola that would have performed best of all their candidates.

They'll rather look at him who will guarantee them much votes from the north.


APC!!! Disaster waiting to happen!
Most of u clamouring 4 Oshiomole or Fasola dnt knw dat politics is a game of numbers. Here, we're speakin National. How many vote will Fasola's name gather in a presidential electn. In as much as i prefer candidates like Fasola, i must take d path of logical and pragmatic reasoning and nt be overshadowed by my feelings.
GMB epitomized our antedote to corruptn in Nja.
People like Fasola can play an integral role in govt when victory is assured

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by JEITO: 8:24pm On Sep 29, 2014
ayindejimmy:
Most of u clamouring 4 Oshiomole or Fasola dnt knw dat politics is a game of numbers. Here, we're speakin National. How many vote will Fasola's name gather in a presidential electn. In as much as i prefer candidates like Fasola, i must take d path of logical and pragmatic reasoning and nt be overshadowed by my feelings.
GMB epitomized our antedote to corruptn in Nja.
People like Fasola can play an integral role in govt when victory is assured
ehm... Nice point! But actually, I don't support either of them o. It is GEJ till 2019
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by ayindejimmy(m): 8:31pm On Sep 29, 2014
JEITO: ehm... Nice point! But actually, I don't support either of them o. It is GEJ till 2019
So u aint even 4 a Fasola over Gej? Haba! Anyway, no love lost. Lol!
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by roxell120(m): 8:38pm On Sep 29, 2014
APC. Im watching u
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by roxell120(m): 9:01pm On Sep 29, 2014
emmasege: Atiku will soon after d primaries release a statement that APC is not better PDP, but rather worse. However, shame wouldn't let him go back to d PDP.
going back for d third time? How does such look like? He will do it cos a madman doesnt feel it wen dancing naked in eke market square
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by yehmi01(m): 9:05pm On Sep 29, 2014
Is this not bent on happening before. What were they expecting with all the Big names But Empty people they have in APC except fashola.

With Tinubus BIG eye didn't he see this coming.

Make them kill them self, Na them sabi.

I really tut tinubu was as smart as they said.

Except Fashola goes for 3rd term I pray they dont loose Lagos to PDP with JIMI as PDP candidate.

They should never have allowed JIMI leave APC.

Am sure some thing Big is wrong with that party APC.

They started well but along the line started messing up Big time.

If PDP should get lagos. Am very sure Tinubu will go to jail for all his 419 business all over Lagos that he started with money belonging to lagosians.
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Raiders: 1:06am On Sep 30, 2014
ayindejimmy:
Most of u clamouring 4 Oshiomole or Fasola dnt knw dat politics is a game of numbers. Here, we're speakin National. How many vote will Fasola's name gather in a presidential electn. In as much as i prefer candidates like Fasola, i must take d path of logical and pragmatic reasoning and nt be overshadowed by my feelings.
GMB epitomized our antedote to corruptn in Nja.
People like Fasola can play an integral role in govt when victory is assured
A candidate like Fashola will definately win the south west and get enough votes in the east and south ( Fashola will get more votes than buhari in the south and east). IF Fashola gets the blessing of Buhari and some northern elites, I See him winning the north. Also Fashola can run with the governor of Kano ( the most populous state in the north). The reason GEJ won the 2011 election is because of the votes he got from the west. APC should field a popular candidate if they are really serious about winning the presidential election

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Abraham2013(m): 1:25am On Sep 30, 2014
lanrexdo: I knew that there was going to be a clash over the presidency especially that Atiku. He has nothing meaningful to offer. You cant just come from no where and claim the Ticket. The reason the merger of CPC and ACN was successful was because acn had no presidential aspirant and cpc under GMB want to add to his own vote.. So you can't just come from no where and steal GMB's dream. I guess at the end of the day, Mr Atiku will port to another party because that is what he does. He wants the presidential ticket by fire by force. It should have been GMB that should have announced first for his presidential ambition not Atiku. They want to have unlimited power,fame and wealth. That is the highest they can ever attain when you become the president of country. They have both tasted power and know how it feels. they want to continue the large life of lawlessness. That is all i feel about this so call people who wants to be Nigeria Top Boss. The only person i have seen who has a dream for this country is GMB. The rest are just bunch of senseless people who wants nothing but power and loot our already damaged economy dry.
Bros dere r different types of dreams namely:
1. Sweet dreams
2. Bad dreams
3. Horrifying dreams
4. Malaria dreams
5. Typhoid dreams
6. High grade fever dreams
7. Yellow fever dreams
So which one of d above those GMB has 4 nigeria?
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by lanrexdo(m): 9:23am On Sep 30, 2014
Amen!

Kagarko:
The only surviving true democrat Nigeria have is Atiku. Of all the politicians that Nigeria have the only person that believe so much on true democracy and political freedom and he so much believe in the Nigerian project. but unfortunately he is a Capitalist and is having so much international influence. If giving the chance he will continue the real transformation that was started by OBJ. To err is human and Atiku is a human which could have his ups and downs.

On the other hand Buhari The People's General is a socialist and is at per with capitalism. The truth remains that the people s general lack the 21st century technical know how to run this country more especially that he cannot win in the southern part of the country.

To be candid between Buhari and Atiku I will definitely go for Buhari.
Vying presidency isn't like vying governorship where electorate are localized. And one of the major factor worthy of consederation is that presidential is a capital intensive project and lacks the billions to spend during campaign.
Bross May Almighty Allah Help us in this country.

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by lanrexdo(m): 9:27am On Sep 30, 2014
Do you want a popular president or an effective one? You can't dismiss the fact that. GEJ is popular and ineffective! It is not about fielding an incompetent person, it is all about making the right choice.

quote author=Raiders] A candidate like Fashola will definately win the south west and get enough votes in the east and south ( Fashola will get more votes than buhari in the south and east). IF Fashola gets the blessing of Buhari and some northern elites, I See him winning the north. Also Fashola can run with the governor of Kano ( the most populous state in the north). The reason GEJ won the 2011 election is because of the votes he got from the west. APC should field a popular candidate if they are really serious about winning the presidential election[/quote]

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Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by lanrexdo(m): 9:31am On Sep 30, 2014
That is why GMB is trying to oppose the said 20,000 delegate which will be easily bought while 18 million people can never be easily bought in the part. Smh.. if he Atiku really want something good going on, he won't have bought delegates in PDP. That is what I am saying. Let the fight for the number 1 candidate begin.

jpphilips:

You seem not to get, I think GMB feels his terms in the merger is somehow truncated while he nurses a little fear that Atiku has the financial muscle to bribe elected delegates, he has done it with PDP and can do it again
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by ISpiksDaTroof: 9:43am On Sep 30, 2014
Raiders: A candidate like Fashola will definately win the south west and get enough votes in the east and south ( Fashola will get more votes than buhari in the south and east). IF Fashola gets the blessing of Buhari and some northern elites, I See him winning the north. Also Fashola can run with the governor of Kano ( the most populous state in the north). The reason GEJ won the 2011 election is because of the votes he got from the west. APC should field a popular candidate if they are really serious about winning the presidential election
Good permutation.
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by lanrexdo(m): 9:45am On Sep 30, 2014
Keep. Voting for a clueless GEJ. Have you watched his rallies? I did. All he thinks about the party and party members and not the country has a whole. He has nothing to offer this country.
major466:
Vote GEJ. He's the better choice. Buhari is lost.
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by major466(m): 9:52am On Sep 30, 2014
lanrexdo: Keep. Voting for a clueless GEJ. Have you watched his rallies? I did. All he thinks about the party and party members and not the country has a whole. He has nothing to offer this country.
That's up to Nigerians to decide.
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by Kbdon(m): 10:02am On Sep 30, 2014
God bless u,fashiola/kwankwaso gov of kano ticket will surely bring an end to pdp domination
Re: 2015: Buhari, Atiku Clash Over Procedure For Presidential Primaries by pontif: 10:42am On Sep 30, 2014
Apc should please take cabdidates like kwankwaso and oshomole as presidential candidate and you will see pdp shaking like a building with with faulty foundation[color=#990000][/color]

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