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Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by nnenneigbo(f): 7:50pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
vooks: Whether I believe or don't believe is irrelevant. What is a fact is that most so called miracles are not. Most can't be proven and most pastors and congregations tell bare face lies and claim miracles deceiving themselves and others in the process. 3 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by vooks: 4:47am On Jan 08, 2015 |
Let's start a new thread and I will gladly and freely give you comprehension classes nnenneigbo: |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by vooks: 8:45am On Jan 08, 2015 |
SirJohn, This is interesting. Hope Swahili is not too much to confuse you. The man Gilbert Deya had a ministry in Kenya and a UK branch. Childless couple were promised miracle babies. This was actually a cover for human trafficking. The wife claimed to give birth SEVERALLY in one year At one point she had gone to a government hospital with a newborn to register the birth and for maternal care. The doctors got suspicious because she exhibited NO signs of a newly delivered woman. ALmost comical. The Kenyan authorities arrested her and secured a conviction. She is now canned. Her husband was in the UK. He has used all means to fight extradition unfortunately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcB4Gwqque4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IvqU3Fqzj8 Look at some headlines here What's unremarkable is that some people still defend him after this To answer your question, WHY DO CHRISTIANS (STAGE) FAKE MIRACLES? 1. Profit- the spectacular is a money magnet. The woman with the issue of blood risked stoning just to get the touch. Desperate miracle seekers will pay ANYTHING to get it 2. Foolishness- some believers imagine that they are helping the 'cause' by ascribing fake miracles to Jesus. They think it is perfectly in order to lie to win souls. The end justifies the means cc dorox, Winsomex,esere826 SirJohn: 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by esere826: 4:55pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
vooks:Exodus 21:2-6 If you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years; but on the seventh he shall go out as a free man without payment. 3If he comes alone, he shall go out alone; if he is the husband of a wife, then his wife shall go out with him. 4If his master gives him a wife, and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall belong to her master, and he shall go out alone. 5But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife and my children; I will not go out as a free man,’ 6then his master shall bring him to God, then he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him permanently. To answer your question, WHY DO CHRISTIANS (STAGE) FAKE MIRACLES?forgive me, but I'm not comfortable with the word "lie" here. Maybe its me, but I tend to describe what you've stated as "deception". "Lie" feels more like a pastor preaching and when he forgets the passage quickly lies and says "in genesis 1, God said in the beginning was the Word..." "Deception" on the other hand sounds like someone with full and planned intention to purposely twist facts to serve an intended purpose |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Nobody: 6:30pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
Read more about Christ Embassy from here http://www.edumacro.com/christ-embassy-international-pastor-chris-oyakhilome-and-rev-anita/ |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 1:04pm On Jun 24, 2015 |
How is every one? |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by WinsomeX: 7:22pm On Jun 24, 2015 |
Kenyan28:Me good. And you? 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Nobody: 8:23pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
but he healed them. why you all up in his business tho |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 6:10am On Nov 27, 2015 |
Hey people? Long time. |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 6:18am On Nov 27, 2015 |
Kenyan28: yeah, how are you today? |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by simplex2: 9:45pm On May 04, 2016 |
Bump.. |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by erickatchy: 1:57am On Jun 18, 2016 |
This post is very disturbing and I don't agree with much of the conclusions of the original poster HOWEVER I must confess that he is sincere and I want to say something somewhat corroborative of what he's said. I too was a member of CE from 2002 through mid 2008 when due to a mysterious uneasiness and restlessness in my spirit, I quietly quit the place. I still hold Pastor Chris in very high esteem. However, I must confess that there seem to be a huge scam going on in the Healing School. To start with, I thought it wasn't something too malicious but from reading SirJohn here I must admit that the fakery is a clear reproach on the Blessed Holy Spirit. How did I arrive at this distasteful conclusion? In 2003 I enthusiastically sent a daughter of my convert in Ijegun, Satellite Town Lagos who was deaf and dumb to the healing school. The forms were free and I had faith. Sadly, my convert was very discouraged because of the way the school was run then. He told me that he met a man there who was confined to a wheelchair. He has had a lot of teaching from me as well as from tapes I had lent him so he was very handy in encouraging this sick man who seemed to have broken a spinal chord (I am not so sure but he was in a wheelchair though). My convert said this man got a healing during prayers before ever Pastor Chris prayed for him. He was able to walk somewhat haltingly but absolutely without pain. To my converts chagrin and surprise, during a Night of Bliss programme few days later, the very same man was confined to his wheelchair at a special healing school session and prayed for by Pastor Chris. I was there live in that service and how we screamed for joy as the man walked out of the chair. My convert was sorely discouraged. This was because the man was already healed before the staged 'healing'. And what's worse? They refused his deaf mute daughter the opportunity of being prayed for. Well the staff of the Healing School were very strict so that one night, as this poor convert of mine was coming to Satellite town from Ikeja after school (and that costs a fortune!) his mute daughter had stepped on a spiky rod protruding from the bus as they were about to alight. The girl was mighty stubborn due to her deafness I assume. So her father asked her to come down and she kept musing rubbish being unable to tell the father her leg was stuck. In anger the father dragged her and her leg was badly torn leading to serious bleeding. They wound up in the hospital where she got stitches. They had to miss healing school classes for two days. When they did resume inspite of tendering medical evidence as well as physical evidence of the little girl's injury, the staff refused to bulged but insisted that the girl had been disqualified and would have to commence a new session at the end of the current one. With this my convert angrily gave it up and did yell on them that they were only interested in praying for the wealthy and the "healed". He came off that place totally convinced that Pastor Chris was sincere but that his staff were very insincere. Needless to say I was pleased with his conclusion but I was confused about the very idea of staging healed people to wheelchairs to fake instantaneous healings. With SirJohn's story now I am convinced that my fears in 2003 has been confirmed. I don't know what to think! [/b][b] 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Joagbaje(m): 4:01am On Jun 18, 2016 |
Healing school is going on in lagos . Just simply take a sick person there and find out for yourself not by other men story. I have 3 people there . One has complete miracle already without pastor chris praying for them yet. Just by the teaching in the classes and prayers of faith . The other who's husband had stroke and mental challenge for 2 years called yesterday . His mind is restored already . He's beginning to walk far better . Pastor chris has not laid hands on them yet . Many are healed . 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Joagbaje(m): 4:28am On Jun 18, 2016 |
erickatchy: I told him same thing . The experience may be true but the conclusion was not right . I had people sent there . Many got healed some didn't . There could be human error also among the officials. . He told me that he met a man there who was confined to a wheelchair. He has had a lot of teaching from me as well as from tapes I had lent him so he was very handy in encouraging this sick man who seemed to have broken a spinal chord (I am not so sure but he was in a wheelchair though). I would want us to take note of the highlighted part above To my converts chagrin and surprise, during a Night of Bliss programme few days later, the very same man was confined to his wheelchair at a special healing school session and prayed for by Pastor Chris. I was there live in that service and how we screamed for joy as the man walked out of the chair. My convert was sorely discouraged. This was because the man was already healed before the staged 'healing'. And what's worse? I made enquiry about this . And I was told the people that are put on wheelchair are medically wheelchair cases. Even though they received some healing and improvement during the classes before being ministered to . They still have to be on wheelchairs medically until full healing when man of God prays for them. You can't over stretched the body of such people till they fully recover. It can cause harm. They are made to excercise Their faith at certain times in the classes . But it has to be under guidance . But the truth of the matter is that they came paralyzed and they left healed . They refused his deaf mute daughter the opportunity of being prayed for They are very strict in the classes . If you miss a class you may have to repeat. I sent a woman there last month . She arrived Saturday instead of Friday . She had missed two classes . They didn't admit her. I tried pressing buttons calling officials that I know . One simply advised me. " I will not lie to you , she has to come back on 17th she has missed 2 classes. Secondly the response of their healing qualifies them for final ministration. It is a school . Well the staff of the Healing School were very strict so that one night, as this poor convert of mine was coming to Satellite town from Ikeja after school (and that costs a fortune!) his mute daughter had stepped on a spiky rod protruding from the bus as they were about to alight. The girl was mighty stubborn due to her deafness I assume. So her father asked her to come down and she kept musing rubbish being unable to tell the father her leg was stuck. In anger the father dragged her and her leg was badly torn leading to serious bleeding. They wound up in the hospital where she got stitches. They had to miss healing school classes for two days. They are very strict . Even if the patient or student were parents of a senior pastor or co official . Same rule applies . They are strict to schedules . |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Boss13: 11:31am On Jun 18, 2016 |
Joagbaje: Why do men like you continue to deceive the vulnerable and the weak at heart? Surely, God will visit you, if not this life, definitely in the next 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Joagbaje(m): 7:07am On Jun 19, 2016 |
Boss13: why are men like you blinded by Satan to always doubt . John 7:12 12 And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people. 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Ranchhoddas: 2:08pm On Jun 20, 2016 |
Joagbaje:Why are those healed never on nairaland? 3 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by paulGrundy(m): 6:57pm On Jun 23, 2016 |
Joagbaje: Imoo, if that's the case, I think the congregation should have been notified before hand that the person had already been healed. That is precisly why sirjohn claimed that the miracles was stage managed to make it seem like the person was healed instantly. This calls to question the motives of the organizers. Was it done that way to ascribe more publicity to pastor Chris as a faith healer? Things like this, the process should be open and transparent for all to see, so as not to create a platform for skeptics and unbelivers to dive on. 3 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 4:11pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
Hi every one? Did I just bump this post? Yes I did. |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 4:20pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
This must be the latest gibberish from this b*****! HS my foot! NKT! Joagbaje: 2 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by kevoh(m): 4:56pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
Kenyan28:. Discerning eyes are opened on Jo and Christ Embassy frauds. Will keep referring to this thread and others to enlighten possible gullible ones. 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 5:35pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
Kenyan28: LOL, my dear... You still bitter after all these years? How are you doing today? The HS has moved on.. You best do so too. |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by nwakaibeya1: 8:24pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
justice is very scarce in the world even as Jeremiah 12:10 declared who is good?,Prophets and pastors and apostles have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.DO HUMAN BEIGNS REALLY LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH?::::: authority and judgement has come back to the earth,BEHOLD we are not begging human beigns to accept our truth and revelation and that is why we have told them,this is power as of old , that go and sin no more power of REAL Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns , so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us?dont forget this that many are pretenders INFACT THEY are pretenders who will rather die that accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth just like may evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of his , pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the HIDDEN mystery OF HUMANBEIGNS ?you that think that you are wise?many human beigns like to stand at the gate of heaven ,enter they will never enter ,also allow others to enter they will never allow others to enter so you must think humanbeigns:we are speaking by the power that is unbelievable to human beigns *this is typical of all our truth and revelation and explanations about the night people ,the rich people and evil marine and occult world and those whom human beings believe in them so much that they were called by God or where made rich by God who are in existence today as being powerful and others as the descendants of the prophets and priests referred to here in the bible @#### Jeremiah 5,25, Your wrongdoings have kept God away;your sins have deprived you of good and peace and night sleep.26 “Among my people are the wicked,who lie in wait like men who snare birds and like those who set traps to catch people.27 Like cages full of birds,their houses are full of deceit;they have become rich and powerful,28 and have grown fat and sleek.Their evil deeds have no limit; they do not seek Gods justice and secular.They do not promote the case of the fatherless;they do not defend the just cause of the poor even when they do its for their own selfish reason unknowingly to the those benefiting from them?.29 Should I not punish them for this?”declares the Lord.“Should I not avenge myself.on such a nation as this?30 “A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land,31 The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority,and my people love it this way.But what will you do in the end?is it not those we call CHAMELEONS Let this phrase as follows sink in you and we repeat that we keep telling you human beigns about them that are being referred to in those passages by God himself hence judgement has come again or cant you see the judgment is all over the place even though the worst judgement is happening spiritually now but because those being judged are pretenders we repeat who will rather die that accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth just like may evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of his pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the mystery ?you that think that you are wise?this is words of authority and power from real Jesus CHRIST, that we declare and they are spirits,who can battle with the God of justice,he that made the spiritual laws?we are not begging human beigns to accept the truth and thats why we have told them this is power as of Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us BUT AS USUAL ONLY TIME WILL TELL WHO IS GENUINE OR NOT?DO NOT SAY YOU WHERE NOT TOLD THAT KINGDOM OF GOD OF JUSTICE HAS COME AND JUDGEMENT HAS COME BACK TO THE EARTH:YOU ARE PERMITTED TO INVESTIGATE BUT HOW WOULD YOU INVESTIGATE WHEN YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY BLIND?JEREMIAH 5,21-22 |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Topgainer: 10:22pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
Kenyan28: Gombs: Kenya28 Forgive the Christ Embassy gang and move on with your life. (formerly Pastor and co-author) Anita has dissociated herself from the gang and moved on with her life how much more you. 2 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 11:23pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
Topgainer: Kenya28, listen to him. |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(m): 6:50am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Several years on, I'm glad this thread is still opening eyes. I still stand by every word 8 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 3:04am On Aug 27, 2016 |
SirJohn: |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(m): 9:20am On Aug 27, 2016 |
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Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by MuttleyLaff: 10:37am On Aug 28, 2016 |
Joagbaje: Joagbaje:Why only wheel chairs, when are wooden legs going to be seen left behind at CEC healing grounds? Joagbaje: Boss13: Joagbaje:Save your breath concerned Boss13, such men's consciences are seared with a hot iron Resorting to sophistry and misusing John 7:12 to justify their deception course of action is the tell tale sign Ranchhoddas:You dey mind the Jero 1 Like |
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