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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by jantavanta(m): 7:37pm On Oct 07, 2014
We are not yet a scientific industrial society. We are supposed to have more Technicians, few Technologists and fewer engineers. But in our own case, the pyramid is inverted.

We used to have Technical Colleges, but they were closed down because Ajaokuta Steel failed. If we have a proper industrial sector, Engineers will find their usefulness within Nigeria with the support of technologists and technicians.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 7:48pm On Oct 07, 2014
COREN and NSE are just there for nothin, they are there to extort money from engineers in a bid to give them certificates. I see no reason why a graduate of engineering will start from level 8 step 3 in the state civil service and earn less than 50k net salary (in Delta state) that's an abuse on my personality, when even architect start from level 9. Engineering is a great profession, but sadly its been abused in this country and no one is there to bail us out even our so-called COREN. Anyways I got fed up with the bullshit, so I had to trade places. I got my own construction company now, and I still am a Federal worker.

No time for Nonsense.

I represent Mechanical Engineering, class of 2006, UNIBEN
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by jantavanta(m): 8:06pm On Oct 07, 2014
slimmy05:
Engineers my foot. Don't even talk about Nigerian Society of Engineers with only paper inventions undecided those lazy bones that can't even produce any inventions.

All this paper based engineers. Make una no make me vex o.My roommate holds BEng degree from Uniport, but na me wet read linguistics dey service our gen angry

Servicing generator does not even make you a technician. So studying linguistics should not hinder your natural inclination. I know a primary school level kid who services petrol and diesel generators that we cannot manufacture in Nigeria, because we have no Steel.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by esekruzzz(m): 8:14pm On Oct 07, 2014
a doctor helps one person at a time and is worshiped. an engineer helps millions of people everyday and is being compared with the doctor.
without engineering knowledge your house will collapse on ya head while you sleep. Trust me no doctor can bring you back to life. some1 else will engineer your coffin and the mechanism to lower you into the ground.
they say prevention is better than cure. do not underestimate the power of an engineer. and do not forget to see your doctor when youve got backache.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Functionoftime(m): 8:14pm On Oct 07, 2014
SwagPower:
I feel ur pain! it hurts ...
seriously I do.. yl u r hating kip tract of ur BP or u might jst end up on a Doc's treating table....
Any d Robot ish....I'll giv dt a tot wen egnrs learn 2 put emotions within a Robot ...u Tink it's all ailments dt require drugs n surgery abi... u 4got abt Psychosomatic ailments...
Oya o... jst kip hating...
I advice all Health practitioners 2 ignore all dis Hate threads...
Starve d beast n see it swiftly Expire.... NULIS SECUNDUS
Who's hating who? You sound so childish, i can't be trading words with you. I just tried to educate you because you said engineers should face their field and I'll educate you more
There's virtually no field that doesn't need the knowledge and works of engineers. In agriculture, we have agricultural engineers that helps with farm mechanization to improve farm yield. Imagine the banking industry today without E-banking and atm. You can also imagine modern medicine without technology. I can go on and on
I'm proud to be an engineer but then, i cannot rate engineering ahead of medicine here in Nigeria. In general, only baby doctors would say they don't need engineers
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 8:16pm On Oct 07, 2014
World richest people
1. Carlos Slim Helu (Telecoms Engineer)
2. Bill gates(Comp Engineer)
3. Warren buffet( Petroleum Engineer)
....
5. Laskhmi (Mechanical Engineer)

checking d list frm 1st - 100th, U wont see any medical profession. Infact Agriculture is among .. Meaning Engineering and Agriculture rule far better dan Medical field.

Dont envy their chicken change of 60k sal. With time u will overtake them and they wont see d flash of ur brake light.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Moonland100(m): 8:25pm On Oct 07, 2014
which love story u want write now. love story is over please
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by hablus(m): 8:26pm On Oct 07, 2014
This is not a jealous matter. It is reality

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by topas100(m): 8:27pm On Oct 07, 2014
Wat about optometrists who are treated as if they dont deserv to b treated like doctors?
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Penboy: 8:37pm On Oct 07, 2014
tania28:
All graduate n undergraduate of different faculties should be treated equally,non is superior over the other,they all perform their duties n contribute to the development of their country.
lolz, because the president and the vice-president contribute to the growth of the country means the should be paid the same shey? But i wonder why its not so.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Ibime(m): 8:44pm On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:
All over the world its no more "News" that these two field of career are both professional fields especially when it comes to practicing it in full scale. But its so saddened here in my country (Nigeria) the way Medical Student(Pharmacists,Nurses, Medical Lab Scientist and Doctors) are being given mouth watery treatment on NYSC service ground and the future Engineers are being treated like idiots.

Infact in Benue State where I'm serving Med Guys are paid like 60k @ppa, 30k @state level followed with 3bedroom flats of Doctors quarters(free of charge) nd 19k of allawee compared with an Engineering Student sent to primary or secondary school with 2k@ ppa and just your 19k of allawee with no accommodation even if you had a First Class(B.Eng) in school. With this sad experience I thing the Engineering Bodies in this country (NSE nd COREN) are allowing our government to cheat us big time.

Med Guys make sure life of human is sustained but Engineers make life so comfortable for humans, we are everywhere going great things all around the world...

1. Automobile industry
2. Air-Condition and Refrigeration(Plasma air-con,doing great)
3. Electronics Devices (Mobile Devices,Laptops etc)
4. ICT and Telecommunications
5. Provision of Electricity(even if its still Bad, but Med Guys can't still do d job if not trained Engineers)
6. Biotechnology (Engineering coming into Medicine)
7. Architects, Civil Engineers and Builders
8. AeroNautical Engineers (Aircraft Engineers)
9. Marine Engineers

Just to mention a few now tell me, would you say its fair after all these areas of specialisation we (the upcoming Engineers) should be badly treated?

How many years did you study for your degree and how many years did they study? Yet you want to earn the same as them. Selfish guy.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by eby001(m): 8:58pm On Oct 07, 2014
omicron:
Who built the equipment doctors use? Who built the equipment that the people that built the equipment the doctor uses used. Who discovered the science behind building the equipment? Who taught the person that discovered the science the science? Who originated knowledge? Who did this, who did that?

Rubbish arguments.

Like I said before? I blame poverty.
I want ask you:
1) the equipment the doc used, where were they biult? Nigeria??
2)personnel working in company where these equipment are built, how much are they paid?
so advice to you for your service year is that if you are not posted to an engineering firm ask for redeployment.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by goldenvicky(f): 9:10pm On Oct 07, 2014
I REP CIVIL ENGINEERS

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Sundayademola(m): 9:11pm On Oct 07, 2014
dridowu:
@op, when medical student are busy reading during/after session , where are engineering student ?
Whe Doctors are busy at work during strike, public holiday and night duty, where are the engineers ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are using part of their hard earned money to cater for some patients ?
Where are the NSE/COREN , when NMA/NVMA/NMDCN are disucssing the future with govt ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are been woken up in the middle of the night to attend to their enemies/friends ?
Where are the enginners when the Docs have an accidental injury ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are giving real bite from relation of the patient that dies ?
Guy, no time for story , just face your work and leave the medical field alone.
Jah Bless
This is the most shallow write-up I've read today.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by JuanDeDios: 9:16pm On Oct 07, 2014
dridowu:
@bolded, if my rant does not make sense, then while not share your own view ? If you don't have anything to say, please leave the thread for people that want to share ideas/opinion not for people like you that are buying/ranting others opinion.
I did share my own view. It's on page 6 - just a few posts above your comment.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by SirWaybijo(m): 9:30pm On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:
All over the world its no more "News" that these two field of career are both professional fields especially when it comes to practicing it in full scale. But its so saddened here in my country (Nigeria) the way Medical Student(Pharmacists,Nurses, Medical Lab Scientist and Doctors) are being given mouth watery treatment on NYSC service ground and the future Engineers are being treated like idiots.

Infact in Benue State where I'm serving Med Guys are paid like 60k @ppa, 30k @state level followed with 3bedroom flats of Doctors quarters(free of charge) nd 19k of allawee compared with an Engineering Student sent to primary or secondary school with 2k@ ppa and just your 19k of allawee with no accommodation even if you had a First Class(B.Eng) in school. With this sad experience I thing the Engineering Bodies in this country (NSE nd COREN) are allowing our government to cheat us big time.

Med Guys make sure life of human is sustained but Engineers make life so comfortable for humans, we are everywhere going great things all around the world...

1. Automobile industry
2. Air-Condition and Refrigeration(Plasma air-con,doing great)
3. Electronics Devices (Mobile Devices,Laptops etc)
4. ICT and Telecommunications
5. Provision of Electricity(even if its still Bad, but Med Guys can't still do d job if not trained Engineers)
6. Biotechnology (Engineering coming into Medicine)
7. Architects, Civil Engineers and Builders
8. AeroNautical Engineers (Aircraft Engineers)
9. Marine Engineers

Just to mention a few now tell me, would you say its fair after all these areas of specialisation we (the upcoming Engineers) should be badly treated?
Aw many of these things are created by Nigerian engineers?
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by brilliant5(m): 10:14pm On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:


Tell them let them know........ Maybe they don't know,Telecoms,Automobile,Oil and Gas Engineers are paid almost half a million monthly and if you care to know Engineering is so wide that you can choose to be versatile!!!
while in sch u flex nd doctors sweat.. Out of sch u sweat doc flex.
Stop hatin na
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by swezenberg(m): 10:22pm On Oct 07, 2014
jantavanta:
We are not yet a scientific industrial society. We are supposed to have more Technicians, few Technologists and fewer engineers. But in our own case, the pyramid is inverted.

We used to have Technical Colleges, but they were closed down because Ajaokuta Steel failed. If we have a proper industrial sector, Engineers will find their usefulness within Nigeria with the support of technologists and technicians.

You have a good technical orientation. You just explained what a country that is plans to become industrialized should be. You have just explained the social stratification of Engineering. Technical to Technologist to Engineers and their ratio.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by alotofgrace(m): 10:24pm On Oct 07, 2014
ubongutioh:

Guy, relax... A corper Doctor is saving life... He has already been trained on that during house manship.
A corper engineer can't produce anything. A graduate of Electrical engineering can't even wire a house. A corper Mechanical engineer can't change a car's plug.
So why do you want to end like Doctors?
Doc spent 6yrs in sch, plus 1yr house manship before coming to service... that's 7yrs. Engineers spent 5yrs.
We Doctors deserve more than these peanuts treatment.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by pkang: 10:28pm On Oct 07, 2014
alotofgrace:


U WRONG THERE!!!
who's machines converted ur herbal drugs to tablets? who designed ur syringe?
get this...medicine is fixed, no creativity........in engineering, we combine the beauty of arts and the Heavenly tool called Mathematics to change things as challenges portray themselves

doctors do nothing, infact GOD HEALS, THE DOC TAKES THE FEE angry

remember...God was first an electrical/engineering....let there be light


..........engineering rules

Hahahhaha Lil na so engineers plenty for nairaland?
Hmmmmmm although am one to be.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by mytym(m): 10:28pm On Oct 07, 2014
alotofgrace:


U WRONG THERE!!!
who's machines converted ur herbal drugs to tablets? who designed ur syringe?
get this...medicine is fixed, no creativity........in engineering, we combine the beauty of arts and the Heavenly tool called Mathematics to change things as challenges portray themselves

doctors do nothing, infact GOD HEALS, THE DOC TAKES THE FEE angry

remember...God was first an electrical/engineering....let there be light


..........engineering rules

Most young engrs are as worried as u are. I for one am, even in the civil service graduates of history, latin, secretarial studies are rated far more than engrs nd are treated with such a high nobility... you are not completely wrong but medicine is NOT fixed.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Feraz(m): 10:39pm On Oct 07, 2014
clemzo101:
Blame it on COREN and NSE, they ve relegated demselves to just collecting dues and looking for contracts from govt forgetting their primary aim. They are amongst the most corrupt bodies in Nigeria, they are useless.......even after passing COREN exams what is in it for u? Useless people.
God bless you! COREN and NSE are the most useless bodies in Nigeria today. I wanted to apply for IT and couldn't find one till I found work with the Navy. If COREN and NSE were doing what they were supposed to do, Engineering students will not find it difficult to gain six months experience not to talk of having research centres all over the country to aid the industrial and technological growth Nigeria is supposed to have experienced along time ago. Useless set of bodies that only send emails to students to pay 100, 000 - 150, 000 just for seminars; it's not like the seminar invloves you dong something tangible with your hands. They're the same bodies that didn't want former minister of power, Barth Nnaji to be a minister of power. Buncha never-do-wells that is not adding anything to the growth of the nation which is why anyone that can wire a house, build one and fix things are called 'Engineers'.

What do they do for those that pass their numerous exams? Nothing that I've heard of. Check the site of Nigeria Dept. of energy, useless contents there. All talking about the never ending promises of the govt. to increase electricity generation; nothing on research or sponsorship of students with wonderful designs on power improvements. They do not visit schools to check if lecturers are teaching Engineering students what they are to know knowing fully well that some lecturers do not bother teaching. All they wait for is bribe from various institutions. Go to their websites and check the last time something meaningful was done by both bodies. Oafish and incompetent people at the helms of affairs of both bodies. angry angry angry angry angry

Poster, I think you should direct your questions to the above useless bodies as they're the only ones capable of creating the front which can bring all Engineers together for a common goal. Another is the kinda society we live in. One thing people here should know is almost all, if not all fields need the services of an Engineer. Then again, every field is dependent on another.

lrguru:
COREN and NSE are just there for nothin, they are there to extort money from engineers in a bid to give them certificates. I see no reason why a graduate of engineering will start from level 8 step 3 in the state civil service and earn less than 50k net salary (in Delta state) that's an abuse on my personality, when even architect start from level 9. Engineering is a great profession, but sadly its been abused in this country and no one is there to bail us out even our so-called COREN. Anyways I got fed up with the bullshit, so I had to trade places. I got my own construction company now, and I still am a Federal worker.
No time for Nonsense.
I represent Mechanical Engineering, class of 2006, UNIBEN
shocked shocked
I'm an undergraduate in the same school studying the same course. Bros, I hail!!! cheesy

I also noticed we're quick to make references to Oil/gas industries. Is there anything wrong if various Engineers come together to start an automotive firm, an energy firm? If we aspire to have an organisation like NASA, Boeing, Airbus, Kawasaki heavy industries etc, is it bad? Why must it always be oil/gas? Why?? cry cry cry

For those running their mouths anyhow about Engineering, I leave you with this link.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by mytym(m): 10:55pm On Oct 07, 2014
brilliant5:

while in sch u flex nd doctors sweat.. Out of sch u sweat doc flex.
Stop hatin na

I don't know where or how you came about this inference but as much as i know that the medical school is not a joke, Engineering schools throughout the world is known to drive students to the end of their wits, nigeria is worse. If u think engineering students flex in school, go watch 3idiots nd imagine wat the nigerian version may look like but if you think that is just a movie, then u can as well remove the 'brilliant' in your monicker.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Ambygold999(m): 11:46pm On Oct 07, 2014
rejoke:
in camp, the corper doctors taks turns in attending to even the engineers... the question is what does the engineers do?

They go around hitting on gurls , telling them how they are going to work in an XYZ oil company or travel to Canada or Europe for masters.

Me manage get one Doctor for camp during my NYSC sha....no dulling.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 11:53pm On Oct 07, 2014
alotofgrace:


U WRONG THERE!!!
who's machines converted ur herbal drugs to tablets? who designed ur syringe?
get this...medicine is fixed, no creativity........in engineering, we combine the beauty of arts and the Heavenly tool called Mathematics to change things as challenges portray themselves

doctors do nothing, infact GOD HEALS, THE DOC TAKES THE FEE angry

remember...God was first an electrical/engineering....let there be light


..........engineering rules


a very big thank.you for this..
as one who. has studied in both fields..i.think.med is over hype..too much respect accorded...all fields should b accorded same respect esp in nysc (so one won't feel inferior)nd d society at large...we need to change our mindset

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Ambygold999(m): 11:53pm On Oct 07, 2014
pkang:


Hahahhaha Lil na so engineers plenty for nairaland?
Hmmmmmm although am one to be.

Yeap!!!! That's because we very more jobless engineers in Nigeria than Jobless Doctors. If you wanna get an actual doctors view on this, go and post this in a financial journal.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:04am On Oct 08, 2014
brilliant5:

while in sch u flex nd doctors sweat.. Out of sch u sweat doc flex.
Stop hatin na


are you serious?
what do u really mean by sweat if its what am thinking..then youre damn wrong....i doubt u know what u really posted.....


some peeps just feel like posting even wen they barely know a thing concerning the discussionsad
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Feraz(m): 12:06am On Oct 08, 2014
Kizmarty:

are you serious?
what do u really mean by sweat if its what am thinking..then youre damn wrong....i doubt u know what u really posted.....
some peeps just feel like posting even wen they barely know a thing concerning the discussionsad
I wonder why you bothered. . . undecided
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by aieo(m): 12:41am On Oct 08, 2014
Engineers my foot all of you yapping as you can carve knife... imported tools that you are bragging about... we the doctors we do the real work, we save lives on a daily basis...


Still repping team MED & SURG
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by matrixme(m): 2:05am On Oct 08, 2014
though it's coming late, but I think you should know how common engineers are in Nigeria, with no impact whatsoever. Even your Mech. Engineering professors in school probably can't replace a spark plug in their generators, yet they churn you out like pop-corn to glorify your chosen profession when you are all a bunch of quacks. I have seen Elect/Elect students that can't replace a switch. Yet you want to recieve 500k in our PPA's. You reap what you sow, they always say.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nastydroid(m): 3:16am On Oct 08, 2014
Nwachiizu:


I will advice you. When you apply for next Jamb put Metallurgical and Materials Enigineering (FUTO) and try have a first class or a very good 2-1. You will thank me later.
MME is a good course right?
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by matinex(m): 3:43am On Oct 08, 2014
Doctors send their mistakes to heaven
Lawyers send theirs to Jail
But Engineers are buried with their mistakes

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