MaxInDHouse:

The one and only organisation that protects Pedophiles and punishes Victims for exposing them.

The one and only organization that breeds Homosexuals and covers Crime.

The one and only organization that participates in politics and and has shares in Military War equipments.

SeniorMan715:

Courz you lack understanding

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

Courz:
Don't even bother. SeniorMan715 is a dunce and a Bible student of JWs. He knows nothing. He is still learning and will not provide you with anything tangible. All what he has posted so far is what you will get. His response is typical of most JWs on this topic. They can't explain 1914. I just want to show SeniorMan715 that he knows nothing and he won't be able to defend lies without looking stupid.. I don't care if I have to quote him 100 times.

So, SeniorMan715, is this true? You accepted this delusion only so you could belong to a group such as this with all the many claims it makes?

Even the Buddhist religion makes many of the same claims so why JW and not Buddhism? Availability?

SeniorMan715, you are not answering the questions. Where did your founder, Charles Taze Russell, get the 1914 doctrine from? Remember Russell taught that Truth from Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and it must be accepted. Where did he get this "1914 truth" from?

Russell isn't my founder neither does he know me.

Courz:
SeniorMan715, you are not answering the questions. Where did your founder, Charles Taze Russell, get the 1914 doctrine from?

SeniorMan715:
Russell isn't my founder neither does he know me.

SeniorMan715, you are not answering the questions. Where did your founder, Charles Taze Russell, get the 1914 doctrine from? Remember Russell taught that Truth from Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and it must be accepted. Where did he get this "1914 truth" from?

When Jesus told his audience that John the baptist is the Elijah they're expecting did he quote anywhere the name "John the baptist" was mentioned?

Well the one and only evidence Jesus had to validate what he said is the PERFORMANCE of both himself and John the baptist even the Christ wasn't called Jesus in the prophecy but "EMMANUEL"

So if anyone wants to argue on letters they will continue for no benefits {2Corinthians 3:6} but when we talk about PERFORMANCE {Matthew 7:16-18} the truth will become obvious! John 8:32; James 2:18-26

Clearly stated in the bible, but not for people like you who lack understanding

Courz:


SeniorMan715, you are not answering the questions. Where did your founder, Charles Taze Russell, get the 1914 doctrine from? Remember Russell taught that Truth from Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and it must be accepted. Where did he get this "1914 truth" from?

SeniorMan715:
Clearly stated in the bible, but not for people like you who lack understanding

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

8-)

Courz:


SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

MaxInDHouse:
When Jesus told his audience that John the baptist is the Elijah they're expecting did he quote anywhere the name "John the baptist" was mentioned?

Well the one and only evidence Jesus had to validate what he said is the PERFORMANCE of both himself and John the baptist even the Christ wasn't called Jesus in the prophecy but "EMMANUEL"

So if anyone wants to argue on letters they will continue for no benefits {2Corinthians 3:6} but when we talk about PERFORMANCE {Matthew 7:16-18} the truth will become obvious! John 8:32; James 2:18-26

Shut up your mouth! Who are you to deny your founder? Who do you think invented your 1914 doctrine? It was Russell. When he saw that the world didn't end in 1914 as he predicted, he made a change to say that 1914 is actually the date of Jesus's invisible presence. Why are you JWs still sticking to that teaching if Russell isn't your founder? It's too late Mad MaxInDHouse! Russell is your founder. It has been recorded everywhere in history. Don't be embarrassed to claim him. He is the reason you are a JW. No amount of long useless sermon you type on Nairaland can change the fact that Russell is the Oga of your Cult and he is still directing your Cult from the dead according to Watchtower. You can't erase history. Even ordinary Google tells you Russell is your founder. Nothing you can do about it.

SeniorMan715:
8-)

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

Courz:


Shut up your mouth! Who are you to deny your founder? Who do you think invented your 1914 doctrine? It was Russell. When he saw that the world didn't end in 1914 as he predicted, he made a change to say that 1914 is actually the date of Jesus's invisible presence. Why are you JWs still sticking to that teaching if Russell isn't your founder? It's too late Mad MaxInDHouse! Russell is your founder. It has been recorded everywhere in history. Don't be embarrassed to claim him. He is the reason you are a JW. No amount of long useless sermon you type on Nairaland can change the fact that Russell is the Oga of your Cult and he is still directing your Cult from the dead according to Watchtower. You can't erase history. Even ordinary Google tells you Russell is your founder. Nothing you can do about it.

Don't kill yourself with HBP o!

MaxInDHouse:


Don't kill yourself with HBP o!

Mad MaxInDHouse, be proud of your disgusting history. I know Russell disgraced you JWs by being a false prophet, a fraud by claiming that his Miracle wheat can cure ailments and duped many people, by teaching that Truth from Satan should be accepted and that he was a Freemason. I know you are also embarrassed over his Adultery which made his wife to divorce him. But that doesn't mean he is not your founder. Just as the Bible mentions both good and bad in the Bible, learn to accept the good and bad of your Cult's history. You can't change history. That's what Watchtower doesn't know. If you continue to hide your dirty laundry, people will bring out everything for the public to see. Russell will forever be your founder. There is nothing you can do about that. You choose to join the Cult, so, accept everything good and bad that comes with it. And accept it with pride!

Courz:


Mad MaxInDHouse, be proud of your disgusting history. I know Russell disgraced you JWs by being a false prophet, a fraud by claiming that his Miracle wheat can cure ailments and duped many people, by teaching that Truth from Satan should be accepted and that he was a Freemason. I know you are also embarrassed over his Adultery which made his wife to divorce him. But that doesn't mean he is not your founder. Just as the Bible mentions both good and bad in the Bible, learn to accept the good and bad of your Cult's history. You can't change history. That's what Watchtower doesn't know. If you continue to hide your dirty laundry, people will bring out everything for the public to see. Russell will forever be your founder. There is nothing you can do about that. You choose to join the Cult, so, accept everything good and bad that comes with it. And accept it with pride!

Don't kill yourself with HBP o!

MaxInDHouse:


Don't kill yourself with HBP o!

Mad MaxInDHouse, be proud of your disgusting history. I know Russell disgraced you JWs by being a false prophet, a fraud by claiming that his Miracle wheat can cure ailments and duped many people, by teaching that Truth from Satan should be accepted and that he was a Freemason. I know you are also embarrassed over his Adultery which made his wife to divorce him. But that doesn't mean he is not your founder. Just as the Bible mentions both good and bad in the Bible, learn to accept the good and bad of your Cult's history. You can't change history. That's what Watchtower doesn't know. If you continue to hide your dirty laundry, people will bring out everything for the public to see. Russell will forever be your founder. There is nothing you can do about that. You choose to join the Cult, so, accept everything good and bad that comes with it. And accept it with pride!

Funny atheists want to kill themselves over the belief of faithful people!

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheists want to kill themselves over the belief of faithful people!

Mad MaxInDHouse, be proud of your disgusting history. I know Russell disgraced you JWs by being a false prophet, a fraud by claiming that his Miracle wheat can cure ailments and duped many people, by teaching that Truth from Satan should be accepted and that he was a Freemason. I know you are also embarrassed over his Adultery which made his wife to divorce him. But that doesn't mean he is not your founder. Just as the Bible mentions both good and bad in the Bible, learn to accept the good and bad of your Cult's history. You can't change history. That's what Watchtower doesn't know. If you continue to hide your dirty laundry, people will bring out everything for the public to see. Russell will forever be your founder. There is nothing you can do about that. You choose to join the Cult, so, accept everything good and bad that comes with it. And accept it with pride!

MaxInDHouse:


You won't get anything, go and worship alone since you don't believe in worship in group!

What constitute "worship in a group"?

sonmvayina:

What constitute "worship in a group"?

Not today Mr Reincarnation!

SeniorMan715, you are not answering the questions. Where did your founder, Charles Taze Russell, get the 1914 doctrine from? Remember Russell taught that Truth from Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and it must be accepted. Where did he get this "1914 truth" from?

MaxInDHouse:


Not today Mr Reincarnation!

Ok...

Tomorrow probably..

I will ask you again..

SeniorMan715:
Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 BC and completely uninhabited for exactly seventy years as it was prophesied so do the calculation yourself, 1914 is the arrival of Christ in kingly power 2520 years after 607 BC.

Did Jesus feet touch the mount of olives in 1914 as prophet Zechariah foresaw?

Zechariah 14 v 1-5;
1 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

3 Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle.

4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.

sonmvayina:


Ok...

Tomorrow probably..

I will ask you again..

OK!

Courz:


SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

Na la cram la pour be the doctrine. We understand how e be . Those are what they carry about as Bible scholarship


Jehovah Again Provides Watchmen to Warn the Wicked

23. What role did C. T. Russell and his associates play?

23 During the years leading up to 1914, Charles Taze Russell and his associates acted as the “messenger” who would “clear up a way” before the Messianic Kingdom was established.b (Mal. 3:1) That group also did the work of a watchman, using the magazine Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence to help warn of God’s judgment and to spread the good news about God’s Kingdom.


Ask am where they got the second fulfilment of Malachi 3:1 dem go run.


They went ahead to harm their beliefs by this obtained from one of their articles titled.... "In the past, our publications often mentioned types and antitypes, but in recent years they have seldom done so. Why is that?"


The Watchtower of September 15, 1950, defined a “type” and an “antitype” this way: “A type is an image or representation of something that will come to pass at some future time. The antitype is the reality of the thing which the type represents. The type may properly be called a shadow; the antitype, the reality.”


If such interpretations seem far-fetched, you can understand the dilemma. Humans cannot know which Bible accounts are shadows of things to come and which are not. The clearest course is this: Where the Scriptures teach that an individual, an event, or an object is typical of something else, we accept it as such. Otherwise, we ought to be reluctant to assign an antitypical application to a certain person or account if there is no specific Scriptural basis for doing so.


Where in the scriptures is Russell and associates TYPES and ANTITYPES of the messenger of the covenant? Once they cannot answer this, the whole foundation crumbles

@ SeniorMan715 the below is from the religious publication of the religious organization you tend to be a member of or already a member, whatever the case is......

Postponed expectations.

We naturally long for the good things that Jehovah has promised. In fact, when Jehovah’s prophet Habakkuk expressed a yearning for Jehovah to bring an end to the wicked conditions in Judah, Jehovah instructed him to “keep in expectation.” (Hab. 2:3) However, when the fulfillment of our expectations appears to be delayed, it may dampen our enthusiasm. We could even lose heart. (Prov. 13:12) This happened at the beginning of the 20th century. At that time, many anointed Christians expected to receive their heavenly reward in 1914. When that did not happen, how did faithful ones deal with their delayed expectations?


Who promised the anointed Christians reward in 1914?

Who delayed the expectations of anointed Christian in 1914?

Where in the scriptures can you show that indeed the two above questions can be supported?

achorladey:


Na la cram la pour be the doctrine. We understand how e be . Those are what they carry about as Bible scholarship


Jehovah Again Provides Watchmen to Warn the Wicked

23. What role did C. T. Russell and his associates play?

23 During the years leading up to 1914, Charles Taze Russell and his associates acted as the “messenger” who would “clear up a way” before the Messianic Kingdom was established.b (Mal. 3:1) That group also did the work of a watchman, using the magazine Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence to help warn of God’s judgment and to spread the good news about God’s Kingdom.


Ask am where they got the second fulfilment of Malachi 3:1 dem go run.


They went ahead to harm their beliefs by this obtained from one of their articles titled.... "In the past, our publications often mentioned types and antitypes, but in recent years they have seldom done so. Why is that?"


The Watchtower of September 15, 1950, defined a “type” and an “antitype” this way: “A type is an image or representation of something that will come to pass at some future time. The antitype is the reality of the thing which the type represents. The type may properly be called a shadow; the antitype, the reality.”


If such interpretations seem far-fetched, you can understand the dilemma. Humans cannot know which Bible accounts are shadows of things to come and which are not. The clearest course is this: Where the Scriptures teach that an individual, an event, or an object is typical of something else, we accept it as such. Otherwise, we ought to be reluctant to assign an antitypical application to a certain person or account if there is no specific Scriptural basis for doing so.


Where in the scriptures is Russell and associates TYPES and ANTITYPES of the messenger of the covenant? Once they cannot answer this, the whole foundation crumbles

And the Idiot Mad Max and his dullard associate SeniorMan715 are busy denying their founder that laid the foundations of his Cult's doctrines. I am sure they don't even understand how Types and Antitypes came to be. One Man just invented a teaching from nowhere based on assumptions and occultic knowledge and you just accept the teaching without thinking. They don't even know that Watchtower claimed to have gotten rid of Antitype teachings yet for some strange reason they never want to get rid of the 1914 teaching which is a product of Type and Antitype teachings. In fact, this Type and Antitype issue is the reason why there is so much confusion in that Cult when it comes to doctrines. JWs can't even keep up with the confusion. I remember when Watchtower used to teach that what happened around Naomi and Ruth foreshadows the removal of the Holy Spirit by Jesus. Same Antitype nonsense.

What is their business if they don't understand the teaching? As long as Watchtower says it's True then it must be True. Blind obedience with no critical thinking skills.

SeniorMan715:
Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 BC and completely uninhabited for exactly seventy years as it was prophesied so do the calculation yourself,1914 is the arrival of Christ in kingly power 2520 years after 607 BC.

Even a baby knows that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 BC and there is archeological proof for this.

If you use the true date of 587 BC, your 1914 doctrine which was founded by CT Russell, is destroyed completely.

But how would you know when you swallow hook line and sinker, the teachings of men without doing any research to prove their claims?

Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 BC, that is a LIE promoted by the JW cult so as to force the fulfillment of their false prophecy.

It is quite unfortunate that you have fallen for their LIES.

It is quite sad.

Na wah o!

So some people can't sleep again over what a global family of peace loving worshipers believe, yet none of you can present a better performing group than this group!

Even the events that began unfolding since 1914 is enough for any sincere individual to know that the calculation was accurate talkless the fact that there is no better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

Courz:


And the Idiot Mad Max and his dullard associate SeniorMan715 are busy denying their founder that laid the foundations of his Cult's doctrines. I am sure they don't even understand how Types and Antitypes came to be. One Man just invented a teaching from nowhere based on assumptions and occultic knowledge and you just accept the teaching without thinking. They don't even know that Watchtower claimed to have gotten rid of Antitype teachings yet for some strange reason they never want to get rid of the 1914 teaching which is a product of Type and Antitype teachings. In fact, this Type and Antitype issue is the reason why there is so much confusion in that Cult when it comes to doctrines. JWs can't even keep up with the confusion. I remember when Watchtower used to teach that what happened around Naomi and Ruth foreshadows the removal of the Holy Spirit by Jesus. Same Antitype nonsense.

What is their business if they don't understand the teaching? As long as Watchtower says it's True then it must be True. Blind obedience with no critical thinking skills.

And the same MaxInDHouse will be looking for better performance group when his religious leaders and teachers know they are like every other ones out there. A look at their own words captured in this publication shows they don't understand what they put out in public space sometimes

Read the below.......

Obviously, a basis for APPROVED FELLOWSHIP with JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES CANNOT rest MERELY on a BELIEF in GOD, in the BIBLE, in Jesus CHRIST, and so FORTH. The ROMAN CATHOLIC pope, as well as the ANGLICAN ARCHBISHOP of CANTERBURY, PROFESSES SUCH BELIEFS, yet their church MEMBERSHIPS are EXCLUSIVE of EACH OTHER. Likewise, simply professing to have SUCH BELIEFS would not AUTHORIZE one to be KNOWN as one of JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES


You see the word LIKEWISE



You would think the difference is CLEAR or they ARE different whereas in REALITY na same WRAPPER TIE THEM with those they love to call FALSE CHRISTIANS

I don't need to break HEADS to get their members to understand the ABOVE. If you don't get it you simply don't get it.

Oh, I was taught the TRUTH will set you free. The TRUTH up there from that publication should indeed set members FREE.

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o!

So some people can't sleep again over what a global family of peace loving worshipers believe, yet none of you can present a better performing group than this group!

Even the events that began unfolding since 1914 is enough for any sincere individual to know that the calculation was accurate talkless the fact that there is no better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

It is not MaxInDHouse that set the time for people to sleep and wake up . Don't deflect into your better performing performance group thinking. It is not working.


All what was happening in 1914 cannot explain Acts 2:17 and 2 Timothy 3:1-5 in synchronisation.

Only Acts 2:17 scatter your 1914 beliefs


Your 1914 belief is a slap to the Bible and to God who says the time and seasons are UNDER his JURISDICTION to decide. It is not in the hands of your religious leaders who calculate things behind the back of HOLY spirit. Make I bring God's kingdom rule book chapter 5 come here to show how Holy spirit no dey lead your religious leaders

OkCornel:


Did Jesus feet touch the mount of olives in 1914 as prophet Zechariah foresaw?

Zechariah 14 v 1-5;
1 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

3 Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle.

4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.

MaxinDHouse, Seniorman715 please can you respond to this?

Was the scripture above fulfilled in 1914?