Recently a thread was opened for people to express their views on General Murtala Muhammed.
Idi-Agbon was another personality that is liked and hated almost with equal measure by Nigerians.
He was the only Vice-President that has his name included in the roll call of Nigeria's past regimes, that you always see Buhari/Idi-Agbon regime. whereas you can never see IBB/Aikhomu or Obasanjo/Atiku regime. I was very young when he held sway but I read he was a very stern and no-nonsense man. He imprisoned almost all the allegedly corrupt politicians of the second republic including his kinsman Saraki.
What do you think of this man? Do you think we need this type of disciplinarian or was this extremism?

ife-eco-06:

What do you think of this man?

He has pioneered the spirit of self discipline in the heart of Nigerians and he has also perform his military tasks to the fullest and most professional manner, he has exhibited great expertise and commitment and above all he was a trusted deputy to his boss Buhari another idol and incorruptible among pass leaders.

even though he was only a vice president,he s a man in the mould and class of thomas sankara, and as far as i am concerned he is the only authentic leader who s totally above board in nigeria, no one can accuse him of being corrupt other than the fact that he was too rigid e.t.c even in spite of that,he got things done and only GOD knows where nigeria would have been in the committee of nations by now, red about allegations that he was intentionally killed with poisoned tea like they did m.k.o abiola

One of the best modern africa ever had.

a man in the mould of thomas sankara? come on now. which kin asodun be this

MC Usman:

He has pioneered the spirit of self discipline in the heart of Nigerians and he has also perform his military tasks to the fullest and most professional manner, he has exhibited great expertise and commitment [s]and above all he was a trusted deputy to his boss Buhari another idol and incorruptible among pass leaders.[/s]

I second this.

Tribalist

@poster
even though he was only a vice president,he s a man in the mould and class of thomas sankara, and as far as i am concerned he is the only authentic leader who s totally above board in nigeria, no one can accuse him of being corrupt other than the fact that he was too rigid e.t.c even in spite of that,he got things done and only GOD knows where nigeria would have been in the committee of nations by now, red about allegations that he was intentionally killed with poisoned tea like they did m.k.o abiola

I agree with this statement.general Idiagbon is everything you pasted and more.he was all things positive.and above all he was a very brave and fearless man,not know to be tribalistic.Ibb told him not to return to Nigeria when their regime was overthrown,he came.
If he was to be president he would have been a benevolent dictator.Nigeria would have made enormous progress by now.He would have been our own Atarturk!

james1:

@poster
even though he was only a vice president,he s a man in the mould and class of thomas sankara, and as far as i am concerned he is the only authentic leader who s totally above board in nigeria, no one can accuse him of being corrupt other than the fact that he was too rigid e.t.c even in spite of that,he got things done and only GOD knows where nigeria would have been in the committee of nations by now, red about allegations that he was intentionally killed with poisoned tea like they did m.k.o abiola

I agree with this statement.general Idiagbon is everything you pasted and more.he was all things positive.and above all he was a very brave and fearless man,not know to be tribalistic.Ibb told him not to return to Nigeria when their regime was overthrown,he came.
If he was to be president he would have been a benevolent dictator.Nigeria would have made enormous progress by now.He would have been our own Atarturk!

He had the option to stay back in Saudi Arabia but instead, still came back home.
So fearless that when he came back all he told the battalions of Soldiers waiting to arrest him at the airport was "just a shot from just one of you is enough to kill me.Why all these troops doing because of me only?"
I learnt the first thing he said when he heard from Mecca that he had been overthrown was ''How's Ibrahim(IBB)? Hope they didn't kill him?". Unknown to him, it was his Ibrahim that overthrew the govt. But more critically,I don't blame IBB, since coup remains the only way of coming to power in military.Afterall,Idiagbon and co also came to power by coup.
Also he died few weeks to OBJ's swearing in(April 1999) and it was alleged that he was poisoned(Allah knows best). I read in papers then that he would have been part of OBJ's govt, probably as Chief of staff. Newspapers reported that he was wailing and crying like a baby, complaining of severe stomach ache before he finally died, to the extent that people around him couldn't believe the the hitherto stern and brave Idi-Agbon could be crying like a baby. This life!!!

Interestingly, IBB was teh first person that rushed to Ilorin upon the news of his death, and he was covered publicly crying. He was referred to as Chief Mourner by newspaers then.

@poster
Newspapers reported that he was wailing and crying like a baby, complaining of severe stomach ache before he finally died, to the extent that people around him couldn't believe the the hitherto stern and brave Idi-Agbon could be crying like a baby. This life!!!

Have you experience real stomach upset before?'cos'it can make anyone cry for help:not to state one stomach upset that was trigerred by poisoning.

So feared was he that all the 419 kingpins went into hiding.Drug barons went underground. All the corrupt politicians and dubious businessmen that had field day during flexible Shagari's regime were shivering. He initiated War Against indiscipline(WAI).It was a total war against corruption. Street hawking was a crime.Farming was emphasized and land given to people to farm.Houses that were unduly close to roads were marked for demolition. The only problem then was that everybody(including the innocent,unfortunately) was living in fear, because no one knew what the next rule/law will be. I was very young but still remember some of these policies. Some people believe it was extremism

james1:

@poster
Newspapers reported that he was wailing and crying like a baby, complaining of severe stomach ache before he finally died, to the extent that people around him couldn't believe the the hitherto stern and brave Idi-Agbon could be crying like a baby. This life!!!

Have you experience real stomach upset before?'because'it can make anyone cry for help:not to state one stomach upset that was trigerred by poisoning.

True talk. I prefer headache to stomach ache. The pain makes the brave become ordinary.

@james1
you got it exactly
@bawomolo
when ll you start appreciating your own and giving honour to whom it is due?so because thomas sankara wasnt nigerian he is automatically better than idi agbo?what exactly did he do that idi agbo didint do,considering nigeia was bigger,and our own decay and what idi agbo and co had to contend with was way bigger and deper than sankara had to,
@ife-eco
im thinking its not ordinary stomach ache,for anyone to wail and cry like that might point to some sorta chemicals actually eating away at his intestines e.t.c you know a gun shot to the gut is actually much more painful before a person dies and takes longer than shooting the head or any other part of the body

when ll you start appreciating your own and giving honour to whom it is due?so because thomas sankara wasnt nigerian he is automatically better than idi agbo?what exactly did he do that idi agbo didint do,considering nigeia was bigger,and our own decay and what idi agbo and co had to contend with was way bigger and deper than sankara had to,

no disrespect but tunde idiagbon's kick against indiscipline is appreciated but the hardline stance of the regime against the media and freedom of speech is not appreciated. who is to say the regime of buhari/idiagbon wouldn't have detriorated into a police state.  as for thomas sankara, although i disagree with his socialist leanings, the man did a lot by cutting government payroll, prosecuting corrupt officials, and increasing the civil liberties of his people. nigeria may have been bigger than burkina faso but the poverty and debt of burkina faso in relation to it's GDP was relatively higher.

idi agbon is no thomas sankara when you consider their contributions to governance.

He was a good leader,

You Nigerians complained about stern face, you got smiling IBB, the rest is history!
Wake up ppl, he was not perfect but I cannot point to any leader (or deputy) that could hold a candle to him.

Idiagbon was an Islamic fascist who ruled Nigeria with whips and very timid methods. Was he not the person that was whipping market women to reduce their food prices as a measure to control economy and austerity measure. How can you guys forget that easily?

I think he has a vision but lacked the main formula to carry it out.
He was a kind of using Iron hand where sentiments ad dialogues are needed.
I still see him as a Brave man.

@bawomolo
hope you realise that no matter what we all thought of his influence in governance,he was just a vice president and his powers for change were limited,as for muffling the press while that was a negative against his achievements,surely the first priority of nigerians then was a stable and vibrant economy,as for deteriorating into a police state,im sure we r all agreed that was and will always be in the realm of speculation,like sankara's socialism which came in a package full of positives as well as some not so positives,idiagbon's regime was similar as well and sankara didint have the oligarchs and the fifth columnist to contend with like idiagbon, from what was revealed later either facts or fiction,it was alledged that some businessmen including m.k.o wernt comfortable with idiagbon and worked together to back babangida to remove him hence the almost familial closeness between them and why abiola felt ibb owed him the post of president.
@deepzone
with the price of staple food now and other essentials, looking back in retrospect wouldnt you see that actions then bearing positive fruits if he d still been in government?gold is formed after going through a very hot furnance,if we d been allowed to go through our hot furnance then,we would have been better for it like taiwan,china e.t.c
@oziomatv
would you rather he was a maradona like ibb?look where that got us, even obj as orse as he was had ribadu with the iron hand and now look at the soft touch yar adua and efcc

@lucabrasi
I'm yet to condemn his regime, I only said if actually he applied a little sentiment rather than flogging civil servant that reports late at work place,
To me he still remain my hero.

oziomatv:

I think he has a vision but lacked the main formula to carry it out.
He was a kind of using Iron hand where sentiments ad dialogues are needed.
I still see him as a Brave man.

1) What main Formula is it that he lacked?

2) How do you know that sentiments and dialogue would have worked instead of what was applied?

Forgive me, but I am tempted to ask how old you are cause I can not believe anyone that lived through that regime could sum it up the way you did above. It was MILLITARY RULE and I am sure we expect abrasive approach where we would think it should not be have been applied. We have also, in the last thing years seen what Democracy has brought us in the same Nigeria. Can one really say Sentiments and Dialogue would have WORKED better during Idiaghon's time?

@deepzone
[b]with the price of staple food now and other essentials, looking back in retrospect wouldnt you see that actions then bearing positive fruits if he d still been in government?[/b]gold is formed after going through a very hot furnance,if we d been allowed to go through our hot furnance then,we would have been better for it like taiwan,china e.t.

And you think the crude practice of whipping market women will hold prices down in this modern era?. Prices are up in Nigeria b/c of the repercussions brought by years of looting and embezzlement by corrupt northern leaders.Boy, you are so barbaric.

Kobojunkie:

1) What main Formula is it that he lacked?

2) How do you know that sentiments and dialogue would have worked instead of what was applied?

Forgive me, but I am tempted to ask how old you are cause I can not believe anyone that lived through that regime could sum it up the way you did above. It was MILLITARY RULE and I am sure we expect abrasive approach where we would think it should not be have been applied. We have also, in the last thing years seen what Democracy has brought us in the same Nigeria. Can one really say Sentiments and Dialogue would have WORKED better during Idiaghon's time?

For my age I think I'm quite older than you.
I guess you live in States right?   despite the strong head and stubbornness of you black Americans does the American govt. treat you like Idiagbon regime just to bring you to order? why is it that we African embrace strong hand instead of using our brain as our white counterpath does to figure out things?
We need a diplomatic govt. not one who treats us like animal, get it into your head that iron hand never solved African man's wahala,
 I'm in the office rigth now don't have all that time to respond to you maybe  next time.

hope you realise that no matter what we all thought of his influence in governance,he was just a vice president and his powers for change were limited,as for muffling the press while that was a negative against his achievements,surely the first priority of nigerians then was a stable and vibrant economy,as for deteriorating into a police state,I'm sure we r all agreed that was and will always be in the realm of speculation,like sankara's socialism which came in a package full of positives as well as some not so positives,idiagbon's regime was similar as well and sankara didint have the oligarchs and the fifth columnist to contend with like idiagbon, from what was revealed later either facts or fiction,it was alledged that some businessmen including m.k.o wernt comfortable with idiagbon and worked together to back babangida to remove him hence the almost familial closeness between them and why abiola felt ibb owed him the post of president.

i don't disagree disagree with you here. but didn't the government he was part of issue decrees where people could be held in prison indefinitely without a charge just because they were considered security risks.  you can't continue to strong arm people and not expect rebellion from different people.  what's wrong with freedom of the press (regardless of whether they were being manipulated or not).  thomas sankara is a bigger and better model when it comes to fighting corruption.  

Can one really say Sentiments and Dialogue would have WORKED better during Idiaghon's time?

why wasn't there an high resistance to the coup if it's style worked.  the regime alienated people in the army and the populace thereby allowing a coup detat to be sucessful.

Tell me of one instance in Nigeria where a coup met with resistance. I'm trying to follow your point. It's always either a failed or succesful coup.

I'm assuming that you mean resistance from the populace.

oziomatv:

For my age I think I'm quite older than you.

I doubt that

oziomatv:


I guess you live in States right?

What has this to do with this thread or the questions asked you.

oziomatv:


  despite the strong head and stubbornness of you black Americans does the American govt. treat you like Idiagbon regime just to bring you to order?

Errors you make:

1) Trying to compare the stubbornness of black Americans to the mentality of the average Nigerian.
2) Assuming All of Black America thinks alike.
3) Black strong head and stubbornness? Where?? I am not sure you understand that people here respect the law and understand that action comes with consequence.
4) Confusing Democratic Rule with Millitary rule.
Etc.

oziomatv:

why is it that we African embrace strong hand instead of using our brain as our white counterpath does to figure out things?

Have you ever asked why the policeman in Nigeria first of all demands bribe from you before he even decides if your cause is worth it or not but a policeman in America takes it as his duty  and job to listen to you, no matter how he personally feels about you and your cause? I am sorry but pretending that there are no stark differences that need to be noted here is not going to work for this. Are you sure you lived through the idiagbon regime? Cause you sound more and more like you have no clue what you are doing .

oziomatv:

We need a diplomatic govt. not one who treats us like animal, get it into your head that iron hand never solved African man's wahala,

I am not sure you understand what this thread is about. This about your opinion of Idiagbons’ time as vice president, and his government. Not about what Nigeria needs now. I am not sure those who have stated that he did a better job than any other government we have had so far, are saying they want Military style rule back in Nigeria. We had Babangida and Abacha and those were just evil people. Why would anyone say because Idiagbon succeeded where the others have failed, Military rule is the key? No, that is not what this is about.

 

oziomatv:

I'm in the office rigth now don't have all that time to respond to you maybe  next time.

I am also in office, please re-read the thread to understand what this is really about.

ayinba1:

Tell me of one instance in Nigeria where a coup met with resistance. I'm trying to follow your point. It's always either a failed or succesful coup.

I'm assuming that you mean resistance from the populace.

huh the orkar coup, the initial coup by by the five majors which failed. by resistance i meant resistance from all sectors.

you'd think people would so distressed to see the buhari/idiagbon. until recent times, coups in nigeria were generally seen as a relief from a bad regime.

bawomolo:

why wasn't there an high resistance to the coup if it's style worked.  the regime alienated people in the army and the populace thereby allowing a coup detat to be sucessful.  

uuumm…. Are you kidding me?? Civil resistance to a MILITARY coup in Nigeria? OH Come on!!! You know the answer to that question.  ROFLMAO!!!

bawomolo:

huh the orkar coup, the initial coup by by the five majors which failed. by resistance i meant resistance from all sectors.

you'd think people would so distressed to see the buhari/idiagbon. until recent times, c[b]oups in nigeria were generally seen as a relief from a bad regime. [/b]

I don't know what Nigeria you refer to there but sorry, coups in Nigeria were considered to be the NORMAL process for power to change hands, until recently. ROFLMAO!!

Kobojunkie:

uuumm…. Are you kidding me?? Civil resistance to a MILITARY coup in Nigeria? OH Come on!!! You know the answer to that question. ROFLMAO!!!

well my bad i should have thought about that better.

@bawomolo

Unfortunately, for the Orkar group, as more details emerged, a lot of people were actually glad it failed. But thanks for explaining.

Why did that guy answer TUNDE?

1luvkipsus:

Why did that guy answer TUNDE?

Yoruba wannabe. Typical for most Kwarans.

Idiagbon was a great soja, He was the man who really rule not buhari,  I think it as to do with the way that govt was set up then. Buhari was not part of the coup plotter, they only invited buhari because since Shagari was from the fulani group , the coup may back fire. And may be seen as been against the fulani. Idiagbon I was told suggested Buhari name because he had knew buhari for a very long time.

But the power of that govt lay in the hand of Idiagbon. That man was hard. I went to school with his children. The man isolated himself after the ibb coup. And never got involve with nigeria affair. He wanted to change Nigeria ,  He part northerner my brother around him and he learn the lesson of betrayer. And Yar Adua would still learn the same lesson , how his people betray his brother Musa.

Idiagbon is a rather reminder to those who think they can change nigeria, it would NEVER WORK. there are more IBB in Nigeria than the Idiagbons. And a lesson to Nuru Ribadu. Give up, there are more criminals in nigeria than saint, my brother. Nigeria is not worst them killing you over.


Idiagbon was a great soja and a good man, He love his family. His wife , I don't know if she still alive now use to sell ice cream / what ever to us,  Nice woman. And I remember Ronke Idiagbon. She dead?? his child,  that na life sha,  a great man is gone, 

Everybody rank him as the best soja that every come out of nigeria.