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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by sheyviruz(m): 7:46pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
happy new year @op |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 10:21am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 10:29am On Jan 03, 2017 |
THE SEASON OF FOOLISHNESS Here are Enoch Adeboye's prophecies for 2017 THE PROPHETIC WORD FOR 2017 IS SURPRISE This is the foolishness that we get as prophecy abi? Which of these is objectively measurable, verifiable or falsifiable now? Plain idiocy. This is where the candid advice has to be given for these people to go and find proper jobs. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by sheyviruz(m): 1:54pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
God know the best |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:16pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
RANDOM VOICES IN THEIR HEADS One charlatan thinks the recession will end in 2017. The other one thinks it will worsen to a depression. Which data did they base their prediction on? None whatsoever. Just the voices in their heads which millions of Nigerians believe is the voice of the same deity. It hasn't occurred to these Nigerians yet to ask why the same deity would give two prophets contradictory messages. Of course, it will never occur to them, just like it never occurred to them to ask why there had been two contradictory books, and two groups of religionists that are always at loggerheads, in the first instance. Let us hope Nigerians will do their religions with some more sense in 2017, and focus on what is important, for once. 3 Likes |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by sonmvayina(m): 7:29pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
joseph1013: It is a story told to emphasize on the fact that the God that creates is the same God that destroys.. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:31pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
OLUKOYA's PROPHECIES See the list of Pastor Olukoya's Prophesies for 2017..... *40 Prophecies. How can you take this man seriously? How exactly? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:32pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
I fail to understand something: After so many failed prophecies by these pretending clowns, people still look up to them for more. What is this condition called? 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:34pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
HEAR OYEDEPO Oyedepo prophecy 2017 basically says give me your money or you will suffer. How is this a good thing....how is this man a good person ----------------------- Oyedepo said this on Tuesday during the opening session of the annual Shiloh programme of the church in Ota, Ogun State. His words: “It looks tough presently but it’s going to get tougher in the days to come. Obedience to the terms of covenant will put you in total command (meaning tithes and offering). When all your obedience is fulfilled, all opposition is brought down” Alluding to the Bible, the respected Bishop said that recession was not a new phenomenon, urging the audience to be committed to God to overcome the financial challenges. “However, from scriptures, all the children of the covenant, who walk according to biblical truth will always enjoy exemptions from the gross darkness and evils plaguing the world,” he said. ------------------- 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:37pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
sonmvayina: So how does this action make Yahweh a good god? |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by sonmvayina(m): 7:54pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
joseph1013: good, bad, envy, jealousy, etc..are all human attributes, we cannot use such for God...he creates and destroys...we are to use our brain to save ourselves, by thinking of practical ways to do so.. Religion created those stories to control large human populations. 1 Like |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 8:03pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
sonmvayina: Please don't take my words for it. Here are verses from the Bible about Yahweh having all these attributes: God is good: - "Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; his love endures forever" (Psalm 107:1). All these proves that Yahweh has human emotions. - "Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the man who takes refuge in him" (Psalm 34:. God is jealous: - "for you shall not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God" (Exodus 34:14). - "They made Him jealous with strange gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger" (Deuteronomy 32:16) |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by sonmvayina(m): 8:01am On Jan 04, 2017 |
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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 8:46am On Jan 04, 2017 |
sonmvayina: Unfortunately, you don't know your Bible well enough. First, according to the Bible, Yahweh inspired the whole of the Christian scriptures. They wrote what he wanted them to write. Second, Jesus, who I perceive you believe to be Yahweh and his son at the same time said this in Mark 10:18, "And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone." Yahweh himself said in Exodus 33:19, "God said, "I'll cause all my goodness to pass before you, and I'll proclaim the name "the LORD' before you. I'll be gracious to whom I'll be gracious, and I'll show compassion on whom I'll show compassion."(ISV)" About jealousy, it was Yahweh who proclaimed himself to be jealous. Check Exodus 20:5 "You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me..." See? Yahweh has human emotions. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 10:36am On Jan 06, 2017 |
...RELIGION IS NOT FAR FROM THERE Wherever you find adult humans in large numbers engaged in extreme foolish behavior such as handling live snakes with bare hands, drinking petrol, eating wild grass like goats, crawling and bleating like sheep, dancing and rolling in muddy water on major roads, mass suicide, kicking pregnant women in the tummy, slapping innocent girls in public, stripping people naked, burning people alive and drinking semen, religion is not far from there. When a large crowd including professors gather to listen to something stupid like 'There will be quite a large number of weddings this year', it is religion. 12 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 11:27am On Jan 06, 2017 |
Ijabla Raymond 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 8:44pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
THE LEVEL OF WICKEDNESS... I have never seen criminals as wicked as Nigerian pastors. Even in a recession, pastors are asking people to pay all their January salary or income as first fruits. Recession plus January hardship is nothing to a Nigerian pastor as he asks people who have rent, children's school fees and feeding to pay for to donate all their incomes to him. Before it used to be the fraud of newly employed people donating their first salary to pastors, now it's everybody in the church being scammed of their first income. I wonder why the EFCC will not go after these fraudsters and criminals parading as pastors. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by ooman(m): 9:37am On Jan 08, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: Another oaf using the bible to prove the bible... 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by hahn(m): 12:15pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
joseph1013: Religion 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 11:15am On Jan 09, 2017 |
ATHEISM OFFERS NOTHING TO ME... Atheism offers nothing to me It never has, and it never will It does not make me feel good Or comfort me It’s not there for me when I’m sick or ill It can’t intervene in my times of need It won’t protect me from hate or lies It doesn’t care if I fail or succeed It won’t wipe the tears from my eyes It does nothing when I’ve got nowhere to run It won’t give me wise words or advice It has no teachings for me to learn It can’t show me what’s bad or nice It’s never inspired or incited anyone It won’t help me fulfill all my goals It won’t tell me to stop when I’m having fun It’s never saved one single soul It doesn’t take credit for everything I acheive It won’t make me get down on bended knee It doesn’t demand that I have to believe It won’t torture me for eternity It won’t teach me to hate or dispise others It can’t tell me what’s right or wrong It won’t tell anybody that they can’t be lovers It’s told nobody that they don’t belong It won’t make you think that life is worth living It has nothing to offer me, that’s true But the reason atheism offers me nothing Is because I’ve never asked it to Atheism offers nothing because it doesn’t need to Religion promises everything because you want it to You don’t need a religon or to have faith You just want it because you need to feel safe I want to feel reality And nothing more So atheism offers me everything That religion has stolen before. --Richard Coughlan 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 11:36am On Jan 09, 2017 |
THE AGE OF CELEBRITY... BUT AT WHAT COST? 4 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:32am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Nigeria's biggest problem isn't corruption. It is the failure of institutions. Our institutions are built around personalities. As soon as that strong leader is replaced all their efforts are reversed in one night and we are back to square one. Absolutely gutted to learn that President Buhari has sacked the man that had the guts to bring transparency to NGO's including churches. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by ScienceWatch: 3:21pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
ooman:"Zetbrittle." Success with that will lead to the dismantling of the Kwv2 theory that is pointing to something out there. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by ScienceWatch: 3:23pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
ooman:Great compliment there, thanks. Ok ! Take it easy. Next time I will use a Water-melon to prove a 4x4. Why would you claim that there is no "Zetbritle" then get together and spend years and millions of dollars trying to prove that there is no such thing ? When you guys finally do get to prove that there is no such thing as a "Zetbrittle", what will you do with the info, how will you help society with your new findings. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by ScienceWatch: 3:28pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
ooman:Great compliment there, thanks. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 5:08pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
EVIDENCE AND CREATIONISM Creationists have developed an industry dedicated to poking holes in the evidence for evolutionary theory. Honestly, I would be excited if they succeeded because it could improve our understanding of the origin of species. But they won't succeed by dishonest quote-mining, denying we can understand anything if "we weren't there", claiming that known limitations in archaeological dating science means no dating techniques work, or proposing a gigantic, world-wide conspiracy. When Benjamin Franklin and others explained the causes of lightning, they didn't do it by picking holes in the God explanation--they brought compelling evidence and the God explanation became irrelevant. If creationists have a better explanation than science, let them bring their evidence. If it's good, evolutionary theory will become as irrelevant as the God explanation for lightning. But here is the problem. Creationists REFUSE to offer evidence. They won't even tell us what evidence would confirm or falsify creationism so we can look for it ourselves. You can't get blood from a stone because it has no blood. And you cannot get evidence from a creationist because he has no evidence. Creationism is irrelevant. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 1:16pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
SCIENCE MADE GOD USELESS.... 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 12:21pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
THE END OF GODS The human ape has worshiped many thousands of gods throughout its brief history. Our gods have ranged from rivers, winds and mountains to celestial bodies such as the sun and moon, to animals, and to humans (with some part-human-part-animal combos thrown in for good measure). We've even worshiped some extraordinary multi-headed monsters that are the stuff of nightmares. Our most recent gods have morphed into immaterial, invisible, ghostly sylphs. As our gods have become less substantial, they have become more intelligent and more powerful. Some are now credited with the improbable, if not incoherent, combination of omniscience and omnipotence. With such diversity, perhaps the only thing gods have in common is that we invent them, laud them, disseminate them and, eventually, we forget them. As our species has matured, we have discovered one more thing about gods. Now, with more than a billion people not believing in them, we have learned that we do not need them any more. In our infancy, no doubt we needed gods to help us cope when the world was a hostile, uncertain and frightening place in which we felt small and vulnerable--a time when we were at the mercy of unfathomable diseases, predatory animals, floods, drought, storms and natural disasters. A time when we were starting to ask difficult questions about origins, life and death but had no answers. But those times are long gone. For most of us, gods are no longer a need--they have become a habit. A habit it is time to break. 10 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:56pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
Sillyking Chyme 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:44pm On Jan 17, 2017 |
DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOUR PASTOR SAYS Every now and again a theist appears in NL religious section who has evidently never spoken to an atheist before. They are shocked. There are tell-tale signs. They will often kick-off with comments like: "You are lost." "You have eyes but are blind, ears but cannot hear." "The truth is staring you in the face." If you try to engage them in conversation, they may say, "A wise man does not argue with fools" or they may wheel out Psalm 14.1, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." If you continue to coax them into explaining why they believe in their god, one of two things will happen; either they will run away or they will offer arguments so thoroughly discredited that most atheists could debunk them in their sleep. It is pretty clear that these believers approach atheists with a preexisting idea of what atheists are like. The caricature seems to be that atheists are rather stupid, have not given the question of the existence of God the least thought and, most likely, chose to be atheists because they hate God or prefer sin to righteousness. Of course, if they do hang around, it doesn't take long for those misconceptions to be dispelled. They soon find out atheists are more often the exact opposite of their caricature. I may be wrong, but I guess they get this image of atheists from the pulpit--it's another thing their pastor says that is not true. My advice is don't believe everything your pastor says. On second thoughts, it might be safer not to believe anything your pastor says. After all he makes his living by encouraging people to believe a long list of fantastical, magical things, none of which he can show to be true. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 11:03am On Jan 18, 2017 |
WHAT ARE YOU? A cloud is an arrangement of molecules. So is a mouse and so are you. The molecules will stay arranged for a while and the cloud, the mouse and you will exist. But they won't stay arranged for ever. At some point the arrangement will break down and the molecules will each go their own way. Maybe one of your molecules will become part of someone else or maybe it will become part of a new cloud. This much we all know. But there is a difference between humans and other arrangements of molecules. Our molecules are arranged to give us greater intelligence than any other known arrangement. We have enough intelligence that, uniquely, we know we will die one day. But we don't want to die. So we try to imagine ways we could live forever. We know what happens to molecules so we invented something else. We say part of us is not made of molecules and therefore not subject to the laws of molecules. We call that something, a soul. No-one has ever seen a soul, no-one has ever detected a soul, in fact, we have no reason to believe a soul exists. It's just that we want it to exist. So we believe it does. Our belief in the soul does not come from science; it does not even come from philosophy—it comes from wishful thinking. There is a branch of learning that claims expertise in the soul. It is a branch of learning that elevates wishful thinking above reality. A branch of learning in which what you would like to be true takes precedence over what is true. It is dedicated to defending ancient longings rather than uncovering new truths. It is a branch of learning that is not about learning—it is about NOT learning. It is called theology. 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 9:33am On Jan 19, 2017 |
"There will be quite a large number of weddings" ~ Pastor Adeboye's prophecy for 2017 How come Adeboye and his fellow prophets never prophesy anything of consequence? They failed to prophesy about Gambia and the situation that is developing there right now. Why? 3 Likes |
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