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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Ikengawo: 5:48pm On Jan 25, 2015
BuddahMonk:
Those roofs were manufactured by the great Awujale, they were even refining their own crude during the Oyo empire so the zincs dated back to 16BC when even Christ was about to be concieved.



hhahahah
They always have that lame excuse as to why they live in a slum of 4 million people. None of those ridiculous cities are older than any other city in Nigeria, they're just uglier.

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by tonychristopher: 3:50pm On Jan 26, 2015
Ikengawo:
It's funny that Yorubas always seem to know what Igbos should do. Meanwhile Asaba, Enugu, Owerri, and Portharcourt have airports, and Ibadan's airport looks like this

[img]http://4.bp..com/-FjJiJsvmj2k/UrZBQ7vOfqI/AAAAAAAAle0/Whw2woa4I0E/s1600/BRVKPCwCYAAFK6P.jpg[/img]

Igbos are producing cars in their villages, an Igbo man's HIV vaccine has just been approved by the Nigerian courts, Anambra is using drones to monitor crime, Abia, Imo, Delta, and Anambra lead all SW states in test scores. We produce as many movies as the Americans and control without doubt the economy of this country. What advise do you have for us?

Why is it always igbos should do this and igbos should do that. If Yorubas knew what to do why would their region capital look like this



while ours looks like this



i no fit laugh, Yorubas are the people that have refused to remove the log in their eyes and advising us to remove our speks





meanwhile ours was bombed to the ground while yours remained untouched.




We're not the same and don't need your worthless advice. What has your advice done for your salvation? Tell me the name of the yoruba man that owns an inch of land in the east and i'll name 100 Igbos that keep you fed.

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by tonychristopher: 3:50pm On Jan 26, 2015
Ikengawo:
It's funny that Yorubas always seem to know what Igbos should do. Meanwhile Asaba, Enugu, Owerri, and Portharcourt have airports, and Ibadan's airport looks like this

[img]http://4.bp..com/-FjJiJsvmj2k/UrZBQ7vOfqI/AAAAAAAAle0/Whw2woa4I0E/s1600/BRVKPCwCYAAFK6P.jpg[/img]

Igbos are producing cars in their villages, an Igbo man's HIV vaccine has just been approved by the Nigerian courts, Anambra is using drones to monitor crime, Abia, Imo, Delta, and Anambra lead all SW states in test scores. We produce as many movies as the Americans and control without doubt the economy of this country. What advise do you have for us?

Why is it always igbos should do this and igbos should do that. If Yorubas knew what to do why would their region capital look like this




you got it bro

while ours looks like this



i no fit laugh, Yorubas are the people that have refused to remove the log in their eyes and advising us to remove our speks





meanwhile ours was bombed to the ground while yours remained untouched.




We're not the same and don't need your worthless advice. What has your advice done for your salvation? Tell me the name of the yoruba man that owns an inch of land in the east and i'll name 100 Igbos that keep you fed.

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by tonychristopher: 3:52pm On Jan 26, 2015
THESE SOUTH WASTERN PEEPS SHOULD ADVISE THEMSELVES FIRS, MAYBE THEY SHOULD TRY BUILDING BASIC FACILITIES LIKE TOILETS IN IBANDAN AND REORIENTING THEIR ARMY OF TUGS IN LAGOS BEFORE WE CAN LISTEN TO THEIR ADVISE AND ABOVE ALL SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL...


ON FRIDAY, I WAS AT ALLEN WANTED TO BUY SOMETHING, THE GIRL ABOUT 25YRS COULDNT HEAR SIMPLE PIDGNIN ENGLISH NOT TO TALK OF COMPREHENSION

THEY REALLY NEED THE ADVISE

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by tonychristopher: 3:54pm On Jan 26, 2015
Ikengawo:


hhahahah
They always have that lame excuse as to why they live in a slum of 4 million people. None of those ridiculous cities are older than any other city in Nigeria, they're just uglier.



YOUR CORRECT NO PLACE IN EAST IS DEVELOPED LIKE IBADAN, THIS IS TRUE...NOW READ ON ...THIS REPORT WAS JUST FEW MONTHS OLD..I INSIST THAT YOU GO TO WORK WITH G WAGON AND TO FARM WITH X5 BMW



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Many old settlements in Ibadan, the Oyo State capital, are notorious for their poor sanitary conditions, particularly the lack of toilets. ABIODUN AWOLAJA recently visited some of these areas, a number of whose residents already dread demolition.

IBADAN, if you are driving in from Lagos, Ile-Ife or Oyo, is quite a welcoming sight. Particularly in the last four years, many parts of the ancient city have been wearing a new look courtesy of the determined beautification efforts of the incumbent state governor, Senator Abiola Ajimobi. However, like most Yoruba cities, Ibadan is an intricate mix of the modern—some would even dare to say ultramodern—and the decidedly traditional. That the picture of relatively modern settlements like Iyaganku GRA, Oluyole Estate, Bodija, Alalubosa, Agodi GRA, and Elebu which boast of fairly good facilities contrasts rather too sharply with that of old settlements like Bere, Oritamerin and Mapo where life is harsh and sad, is no news. What may be news—and resonantly so—is that the ancient settlements have remained virtually within the primitive levels that gave them their identity many decades ago.

In many of the old communities, toilets are a pipe dream. But more fundamentally, they may need to be pulled down, like Nero’s Rome, for a new city to emerge, a task which no administration in the state has embarked on in the last three decades basically for political and cultural reasons. For one thing, it is in the ancient settlements that most of the wealthy and influential (wo)men of the city have their roots, and retaining them preserves some cultural linkages. More fundamentally, according to a large number of respondents, the political cost of such an endavour is huge. And so, figuratively speaking, the beautiful structures are not yet born, and the ugly ones have refused to die.

When Sunday Tribune visited Abebi, Ayeye, Idi Ikan, Orita Merin and Bere communities during the week, they remained remarkable for their poor sanitary conditions, particularly the lack of toilets in many households. Though successive governments and non-governmental organisations (NGOs) had built toilets in these communities to fill the void, they are considered by many of the residents themselves to be grossly inadequate. Worse still, none of the residents is planning to build any.

Inadequate toilets but well maintained

At Abebi, Soosi Eleja area, an octogenarian, Mrs Odunola Gesinde, told Sunday Tribune that the sanitary facility in the area, a 12-room lavatory which services hundreds of residents, was being properly maintained by the residents. She said: “The public toilet here is very fine; there was a tap attached to the facility but it is no more working. In this one that we have, there are 12 rooms, which we have divided among the houses in this area; three houses use two toilets. The men take care of the place every 15 days. We contribute N100 per house to take care of the place. The local government people from Onireke come to inspect it when it is full; they give us chemicals packaged in big gallons to put into it, so that the matter can go down, and then the pits can be filled up again.”

The 12-room toilet in question proudly carries this inscription: “Rehabilitation of a Complex of Toilet Facilities Undertaken by CASSAD (an NGO) with support from IDRC Under the Eco Health Project. Commissioned: 24-03-2005.” Apparently, the non-governmental organisation that facilitated the rehabilitation of the lavatory did not want to leave anyone in doubt about its good deed.

Each of the three houses that share two lavatory rooms has at least 15 occupants, meaning that, on the average, there are 22 persons to a lavatory pit. But the other residents who are not allocated toilets do not enjoy the luxury available to the few households (popularly called agboole) like Gesinde and Idi Igba where public toilets, located at a walking distance, provide respite.

Unlike in self-contained rooms where you enjoy privacy while on the vitally important and inevitable natural assignment, residents here grab a water kettle (known as age) and proceed into the lavatory in the full glare of passers-by and a business community. At Abebi, the facility is located close to a stall, where a popular akara seller plies her trade, but users of the toilet are, at least assured of privacy once inside the facility.

The order of ‘Shot Put’

While each of the households allocated toilets has a different key available only to its members, the inhabitants of the adjoining areas, numbering thousands of people, have no toilet facilities to use. To relieve themselves, they have, indeed, perfected a method: they do their thing in the bathroom, wrap it in cellophane bags, popularly called poly bag, and proceed to dump it in nearby drainage at dawn. Hurling human waste into drainages or bushes is styled “Shot Put” in Nigerian parlance. Indeed, as one of the residents, a bejewelled illiterate who simply identified herself as Alhaja Suliat, told Sunday Tribune: “Bo se n lo niyen, o ye ke ti jasi ke!” meaning “That’s how things are; you ought to understand!”

Mrs Adesola Jegede, another resident of the area, lamented the lack of toilets in most households. “The entire area lacks toilets; what the people do is pile up faeces and throw it away at dawn. You see, our own house used to have a toilet long ago. However, because the owner of the house objected to people from neighbouring houses continually pouring their thing into the lavatory without cleaning the place, he was killed through occult manipulations. So, my caretaker has vowed not to build a toilet because his father died on that cause. In any case, nearly all the houses in the area have now been sold. People are digging up their dead and transporting them to the farmsteads in Aromiyo sacks. When I wanted to buy a place and wondered what would become of the sepulchre in front of the house, the family members told me not to worry, promising to move their dead, because they do not want caterpillars to uproot their ancestors.”

Indeed, even for those who have access to the public toilets, the site is visited only during the day. At night, because a road divides many houses from the location of the toilet the poly bag method comes in handy, as the residents cannot go out because of the fear of robbers and vigilance group men.

In areas like Ayeye and Bere, Sunday Tribune found, the situation is even more dire. At the Bere public toilet, an 11-room facility located very close to the Bere-Oje-Gate road, Sunday Tribune found two workers, Mr Saheed Yekini and one Mrs Adetunji, who gave an insight into the lavatory needs of the area. Said Mr Yekini: “Here, there is no sharing of toilet rooms among houses. This is the only toilet in the entire Bere. There are five rooms on either side here, making a total of 10 toilets and a bathroom. These toilets serve the entire Bere community, as well as people on motion. If this facility had not been placed here, this entire environment would be littered with faeces.” The area, before the toilet was built, according to Mrs Adetunji, “was a dumping site for human waste. We had to lift the waste from here on our heads. That made it possible for us to even work here at all. Even now, the back of the toilet has been turned into a dumping site by the residents. This is done at night. We buy water; the woman who brings water is almost here. The people who use this place pay N30. If they want to have their bath, it’s N50. Urinating costs N10 only.”

Asked what would be the fate of residents who did not have any money at the time of their visit, she said:

“The residents have nothing to fear. We do not collect money from the people that we know.” On those who use the bathroom, Yekini noted “They are people returning from work, including construction workers and travellers looking for a place to take their bath.”

“What we want from the government,” said Mrs Adetunji, “ is to give us more toilet facilities in Bere. They should give us water and evacuate the waste regularly. We cannot tell the government where to locate the toilets; the government is in the best position to do that. You know that public toilets are not meant for those in the neighborhood alone; they are for everybody. Regarding those on a journey, some have even defecated on their bodies before arriving here. Such a person would say that he or she is coming from a certain place and was directed here. So, government should make facilities like this surplus.”

Need for more toilets

On the number of additional public toilets needed, she said: “Toilets cannot be too many, sir. If the government builds four more toilets for us, it is worth the effort, because it is not only Bere people that use this one. Everybody uses it; some would be in a vehicle and suddenly feel their stomach rumbling. They rush here. No one smokes igbo here. We open at 6 a.m and close at 9 p.m. Then, the users themselves have a problem. Some believe that since they have paid, they are not supposed to flush the toilet after use. But we make them to understand that it is not right. If they wake up in their own home and use the toilet but refuse to flush it, would they be able to stay in the place, with the odour? Now, even though we are buying water, we encourage them to use as much water as possible.”

“Really, there’s no one who does not know how Bere is,” said Mr Raymon Adetunji, manager of Bere public toilets who arrived just as Sunday Tribune was rounding off the chat with Yekini and Mrs Adetunji.

“The challenge we have is this: you know there are different kinds of people. As you have mad people, so do you have normal people. People give us a lot of problems here; some would even refuse to defecate in the toilet proper, but on the bare ground. It is when we get there that we discover that the place has been messed up. So, now, we make sure that once a user goes out, we go in immediately to check how the place has been used. We have to do this because there are people who abhor sighting other people’s ordure. We ourselves know how this area is; many are the times that we wash the place and apply izal (a disinfectant) to it.

“Even whenever we are leaving at night, we ensure that we give the place a thorough clean up. And when we come in the morning, we still clean up the place after it has been used. This is the only toilet from here to Oja’Ba. From here to Oje, there is only one, and from here to Ayeye, there is only one. We buy water, because there is no well here. If a borehole were available, it would solve a lot of problems. I remember that when this toilet was constructed, a well was dug. But the project stopped when the Hausas who built it could not see clearly anymore within the ground. They did not reach water level. The well was blocked when some people fell into it. There are places where a well or borehole can still be built here. What I want the government to do for me is to give me water. That would solve the problem.”

Indeed, in August 2011, about 50 houses in the six areas of Ibadan North West Local Government Area in Oyo State witnessed an outbreak of cholera claimed four lives. The Caretaker Chairman of the council, Mr Wasiu Olatunbosun, said that the epidemic was caused by the unhygienic attitude of the people living in the areas. He added: “I directed that all their wells should be chlorinated. Besides, we will sink boreholes in strategic places there to provide potable water for the people of the areas to drink. We thank God that the epidemic has been effectively checked. We saw only one casualty. In fact, about 50 houses that we visited do not have toilets. Some wrapped excreta in a cellophane bag and dropped it at their entrances. It is very unhygienic. We will continue to charge those who flout environmental laws to court.” Also, a statement by Dr Festus Adedayo, Senior Special Assistant on Public Communications to Governor Ajimobi, said that the governor had immediately directed the Commissioner for Health, Dr. Abdulateef Olopoenia, to visit the affected areas and ascertain the claims in order to curtail its spread.

Public toilets, public health

But then, even public toilets are a global challenge. In the words of Dr. Anthony Komaroff, Harvard Medical School: “It’s not completely irrational to worry about dirty public toilet seats. Any contaminated surface can spread infectious disease. However, the real risk of catching a disease from a clean toilet seat is almost nonexistent.

“Public rest rooms, like all public places, do present risks from infectious diseases. But those risks are not from toilet seats. Surfaces you touch with your hands — the flush handle on the toilet, the water faucet handle on the sink, the doorknob on entering or exiting the restroom — can be contaminated with germs. Your hands are very hospitable to bacteria, such as staph germs and E. coli. Your hands can pick up the flu virus, too. And then it’s really easy for you to spread those germs from your hands to your nose and mouth. From there, they get inside your body. So, always wash and dry your hands thoroughly before leaving a public restroom. After I’ve washed my hands, if I still need to grab a door handle to leave the rest room, I will then use an antibacterial hand gel.”

But the public toilets in Ibadan are mere pit latrines, and so precautions may need to be higher.

As noted by the Gallo Institute of Public Health and Nutrition, “There are several disease-causing bacteria that you can find in the toilet seat, but these bacteria will not affect you if you have a strong immune system. Some bacteria and viruses that you can find in toilet seat of public bathrooms include E.coli, streptococcus, hepatitis A virus, staphylococcus, shigella bacteria and sexually transmitted organisms. These disease-causing bacteria will not affect you if you have a strong immune system and clean your hands with an antibacterial soap after using the public toilet.

“There is no doubt that toilet seat of public rest rooms contain germs that have negative impact on your health. They are considered a health hazard and are known to cause problems like gonorrhoea or Chlamydia. However, you must understand that these disease causing viruses and bacteria survive only for a period of very short time on the surface of toilet seat. Also, germs can only affect you if they come in contact with your genital or urethral tract. At times germs can enter the body through sore or cut in the thighs or buttocks, so it is best that you cover open wounds before using public toilet.”

The solution

Delegates at the recently concluded National Conference indeed called for the enactment of laws that would make open defecation an offence in the country. A former Head of Service, Mrs Ebele Okeke, in her contribution to the debate, lamented that “Nigeria is like a big toilet, where people defecate in open places. This is due largely to the fact that landlords build houses without toilets and even where there are toilets, these toilets are converted to stores.”

According to the United Nation’s Children’s Fund (UNICEF), more than 100 million Nigerians currently lack access to improved toilet facilities, while more than 45 million Nigerians defecate in the open, a factor responsible for the spread of cholera and other related diseases in the country. Thus, as part of activities marking the 2013 World Toilet Day, Minister of Health, Professor Onyebuchi Chukwu, promised: “As part of efforts to promote total health in Nigeria, the Federal Ministry of Health will align with all relevant partners to implement appropriate interventions to ensure a clean environment for healthy living. The occurrence of cholera epidemics could be stopped if there is a mechanism to stop open defecation which will prevent contamination of water sources and food.”

The nation, Ibadan in particular, awaits Chukwwu’s mechanism. In the interim, however, regular provision of waste disposal bins and other sanitation, increased awareness on good sanitation practices, and proper management of solid waste disposal problems through public/private partnership programme (PPP) could come in handy.




http://tribune.com.ng/life-and-living/item/17173-three-houses-two-toilets-welcome-to-shot-put-republic/17173-three-houses-two-toilets-welcome-to-shot-put-republic

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jan 26, 2015
Ibo made HIV vaccine approved by courts! Lmao grin

These guys are hilarious.
Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jan 26, 2015
[s]
MayorofLagos:


When you express ambition to have more Igbo representation in Yoruba government you open yourself to critical inspection.

The advisory is a part in the inspection package. If it makes you uncomfortable to be under the scope then withdraw your interest for representation.

Mayor will always open posts with advisories on what is good for Igbo and what action we expect you to take.
[/s] Have you repaired your leaking roof?

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by tonychristopher: 3:58pm On Jan 26, 2015
reporter1:
Stop fooling yourself. Nobody is advising Ibos to to do anything. Who gives a F as to what you do?

As for your phantom home ownership -how many people are paying rent to Ibos? Why do you people like to embellish yourselves? Does it really make you feel good? Are you suffering from grandiose delusion?

And which jobs are you talking about? The multinational jobs? Or you think spare part sellers are the employer of Labor in Yoruba land.
You need to get off your high horse.




FIRST THING, GO BUILD TOILETS FOR YOUR PEEPS IN IBADAN, THEN REHABILITATED THOSE AGBEROS AND OMO NILE THEN WE CAN HEAR YOU

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jan 26, 2015
meforyou1:
That igbos should not demand greater political representation in yorubaland? Is yorubaland not in Nigeria? Are igbos not Nigerians? Is it no longer one Nigeria?
Igbos built lagos. And igbos will rule lagos

Ibos built Lagos but unable to replicate same feat in iboland? It doesn't add up.
Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by meforyou1(m): 7:18pm On Jan 26, 2015
Aigbofa:


Ibos built Lagos but unable to replicate same feat in iboland? It doesn't add up.
what doesn't add up is the your brain functions

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by IgrigiMercenery: 8:14pm On Jan 26, 2015
BuddahMonk:
Those roofs were manufactured by the great Awujale, they were even refining their own crude during the Oyo empire so the zincs dated back to 16BC when even Christ was about to be concieved.


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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by IgrigiMercenery: 8:23pm On Jan 26, 2015
**grins** How can someone who has no teeth teach one how to chew? **LOLS**

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by mazzi: 9:12pm On Jan 26, 2015
Ikengawo:
It's funny that Yorubas always seem to know what Igbos should do. Meanwhile Asaba, Enugu, Owerri, and Portharcourt have airports, and Ibadan's airport looks like this

[img]http://4.bp..com/-FjJiJsvmj2k/UrZBQ7vOfqI/AAAAAAAAle0/Whw2woa4I0E/s1600/BRVKPCwCYAAFK6P.jpg[/img]

Igbos are producing cars in their villages, an Igbo man's HIV vaccine has just been approved by the Nigerian courts, Anambra is using drones to monitor crime, Abia, Imo, Delta, and Anambra lead all SW states in test scores. We produce as many movies as the Americans and control without doubt the economy of this country. What advise do you have for us?

Why is it always igbos should do this and igbos should do that. If Yorubas knew what to do why would their region capital look like this



while ours looks like this



meanwhile ours was bombed to the ground while yours remained untouched.




We're not the same and don't need your worthless advice. What has your advice done for your salvation? Tell me the name of the yoruba man that owns an inch of land in the east and i'll name 100 Igbos that keep you fed.
nna nwanne,how u take talk everthing wey full my mouth na?see as i jst dey open mouth de read ur commentz.u go take how many bottlez of origin for this ur wonderful submission?

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by BlackPikiN(m): 5:16am On Jan 27, 2015
Aigbofa:
Ibo made HIV vaccine approved by courts! Lmao grin

These guys are hilarious.


Bro, what's funny? Igbo made vaccine is funny to you?

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by owobokiri(m): 5:50am On Jan 27, 2015
When you honestly lampoon SE governors here for their shortcomings, this restless bunch of headless chickens from the other side of the river will latch on that to rain down all sorts of venom on SE political elite while lambasting igbos for their "political docility/immaturity" . They harangeu you endlessly with all sorts of "we are better than you" inanities; how you deserve the "worst" governors that you have and how SE is somalia as a result. . It conviniently eludes their analyses that no serious comparative study will put one rascally Arigbosola over say a Peter obi warts and all. You can't juxtapose Fayemi/Fayose with Okorocha and expect serious minds to take you serious. Who is the governor of Oyo state, can you in all honesty say that he has delivered than. Chime in Enugu? We magnify Orjis criminal neglect of Abia because we don't suffer fools gladly, to the extent you will think he hasn't lifted a finger since he was sworn in Abia state. .

You irritants join the discuss from your "highgrounds" with lectures. This while Ibadan has become a dumping ground for rusty corrugated iron sheets. Oshogbo and co, vintage slums while fasholas media generated super administrative skills begins and ends with clearing Oshodi and biulding 4 or 5 parks! You don't even make bold to hold your political leaders to checks since casztigating the tribal tin gods amounts as you always arggeu to "pointing at your fathers house with the left hand". . Culturally prepared for eternal servitude, you zealously follow/defend/dobale extremely corrupt political leaders who effortlessly guide you into political associations/alliances/unions that serve parochial interests while cementing your status as serfs to your northern lords as every other southerner appraises with utter chagrin. You reach all these allianating deals with the north at the expense of your southern neighbours then start to issue threats, abuse and insults from your cowardly hamlets when the same southerners shortchanged by your selfish deals make alternative choices. . Talk of eating your cake and still trying to have it back.

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by tonychristopher: 7:31am On Jan 27, 2015
owobokiri:
When you honestly lampoon SE governors here for their shortcomings, this restless bunch of headless chickens from the other side of the river will latch on that to rain down all sorts of venom on SE political elite while lambasting igbos for their "political docility/immaturity" . They harangeu you endlessly with all sorts of "we are better than you" inanities; how you deserve the "worst" governors that you have and how SE is somalia as a result. . It conviniently eludes their analyses that no serious comparative study will put one rascally Arigbosola over say a Peter obi warts and all. You can't juxtapose Fayemi/Fayose with Okorocha and expect serious minds to take you serious. Who is the governor of Oyo state, can you in all honesty say that he has delivered than. Chime in Enugu? We magnify Orjis criminal neglect of Abia because we don't suffer fools gladly, to the extent you will think he hasn't lifted a finger since he was sworn in Abia state. .

You irritants join the discuss from your "highgrounds" with lectures. This while Ibadan has become a dumping ground for rusty corrugated iron sheets. Oshogbo and co, vintage slums while fasholas media generated super administrative skills begins and ends with clearing Oshodi and biulding 4 or 5 parks! You don't even make bold to hold your political leaders to checks since casztigating the tribal tin gods amounts as you always arggeu to "pointing at your fathers house with the left hand". . Culturally prepared for eternal servitude, you zealously follow/defend/dobale extremely corrupt political leaders who effortlessly guide you into political associations/alliances/unions that serve parochial interests while cementing your status as serfs to your northern lords as every other southerner appraises with utter chagrin. You reach all these allianating deals with the north at the expense of your southern neighbours then start to issue threats, abuse and insults from your cowardly hamlets when the same southerners shortchanged by your selfish deals make alternative choices. . Talk of eating your cake and still trying to have it back.

What is super about fashola Admin ..oh Oshodi is a landmark achievement

Then what will you say about a government that single handedly build airports and refinery ..that WL be out of world achievement

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Nobody: 7:41am On Jan 27, 2015
I love this thread.
Yoruba's should stop advising the igbo's they should put their house in order first.

Ndiala

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by IgrigiMercenery: 2:04pm On Jan 27, 2015
tonychristopher:


What is super about fashola Admin ..oh Oshodi is a landmark achievement

Then what will you say about a government that single handedly build airports and refinery ..that WL be out of world achievement

**grins** Media-generated Super administrative skills. Please correct asap. #Thankyou

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by cjrane: 2:50pm On Jan 27, 2015
Ikengawo:
People always feel the need to advise Igbos on what to do politically. Meanwhile their father pays rent to an Igbo man in their father's own state and they're trying to get a job in an Igbo man's company. When I drive through Owerri, Asaba, and Enugu or see the level of wealth and industry in Onitcha, Nnewi, Aba, and PH I have a hard time understand why anyone feels it's Igbos that need advise.

This whole campaign has been igbos should do this and igbos should do that. Meanwhile the only region that hasn't had a bloody or violent election of rally in the past 6 years is the SE, and both candidates (both from other regions) are clamouring for no more important vote than the Igbo one.

Rest jor.

Yoruba men are ALWAYS the ones with a pressing desire to "advise" Igbo" Even the politically shrewd Hausa/Fulani keeps his advise!
You'd always wonder why Yoruba? The most used and dumped group in the world. If Lagos had not been capital of Nigeria, the whole Southwest would have been worse than Somalia. Yet, they are the very ones that must "advise" Igbo everyday. lol.. grin

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Crayola1: 5:38pm On Jan 27, 2015
Ikengawo:


The french have cities older than yours and Paris is Paris. No city in Yoruba land is older than Rome. In fact Igbos have been in Nigeria longer than Yorubas but our cities don't look like swamps. Is it ancient history that gave those cities imported british tin roofs? Ignorance.

It's all hype. Hiroshima that had an atomic bomb dropped on it, Germany that was fire bombed and torn bit by bit, and etc.

Go look at them today, even their historic quarters that surpass anything in Nigeria in age and existence. They look nothing like this.

If those areas are so historical and important to them why don't the fix them up? Who leaves history to rot? It's because nobody has the money to fix them or gives two hoots about it! That's why!!!

Nothing is worse than a decaying eye sore of a building, which is why even in the US you will see these buildings pulled down. When they are not people take it upon themselves to set up historical committees to raise funds to rehabilitate the buildings. No such thing is happening in the SW these buildings will look the same way 50 dam.n years from now and they will be screaming sophistication and civilization.

How dare some people compare themselves to actual sane societies with these ugly glorified huts with tin roofs. if anything these buildings are health hazards that are releasing dangerous toxic metals into their inhabitants air.

Only Lagos tries small with some of the old areas, the rest. Burn those fu.ckers down for the sake of progress. Even if you attempted to save some of them the cost would not even justify such a project.

Insulting people with real history and reverence for history with these monstrosities.

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Adegbodolu1: 6:09pm On Jan 27, 2015
Crayola1:


It's all hype. Hiroshima that had an atomic bomb dropped on it, Germany that was fire bombed and torn bit by bit, and etc.

Go look at them today, even their historic quarters that surpass anything in Nigeria in age and existence. They look nothing like this.

If those areas are so historical and important to them why don't the fix them up? Who leaves history to rot? It's because nobody has the money to fix them or gives two hoots about it! That's why!!!

Nothing is worse than a decaying eye sore of a building, which is why even in the US you will see these buildings pulled down. When they are not people take it upon themselves to set up historical committees to raise funds to rehabilitate the buildings. No such thing is happening in the SW these buildings will look the same way 50 dam.n years from now and they will be screaming sophistication and civilization.

How dare some people compare themselves to actual sane societies with these ugly glorified huts with tin roofs. if anything these buildings are health hazards that are releasing dangerous toxic metals into their inhabitants air.

Only Lagos tries small with some of the old areas, the rest. Burn those fu.ckers down for the sake of progress. Even if you attempted to save some of them the cost would not even justify such a project.

Insulting people with real history and reverence for history with these monstrosities.

Burn our history and the mark of our great empires and civilisations past?

so you can equate us with those jungle hamlet swinging babarians from the east/

You no try at all....
Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by bakynes(m): 6:43pm On Jan 27, 2015
Adegbodolu1:


Burn our history and the mark of our great empires and civilisations past?

so you can equate us with those jungle hamlet swinging babarians from the east/

You no try at all....
Abeg make una free them na Igbo thread b dis so they think we are fools for leaving the ancient buildings abi if u go to some parts of Lagos in Epe, Ipaja you will find this ancient houses that is because the families have refused to sell d house or the lands just to maintain the heritage. Like if you go to that same ibadan you won't find good estates and buildings same as Abeokuta if their brains can tell them it's a deliberate act to leave it that way leave them let them keep ranting.
Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Ikengawo: 8:06pm On Jan 27, 2015
cjrane:


Yoruba men are ALWAYS the ones with a pressing desire to "advise" Igbo" Even the politically shrewd Hausa/Fulani keeps his advise!
You'd always wonder why Yoruba? The most used and dumped group in the world. If Lagos had not been capital of Nigeria,[b] the whole Southwest would have been worse than Somalia. [/b]Yet, they are the very ones that must "advise" Igbo everyday. lol.. grin
Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Ikengawo: 8:12pm On Jan 27, 2015
Adegbodolu1:


Burn our history and the mark of our great empires and civilisations past?

so you can equate us with those jungle hamlet swinging babarians from the east/

You no try at all....

every single house built in 1950 isn't history. None of those buildings are 'historic'. Something important happened in every single building you see in this pictures?



Which type of history included british imported tin roofs?
Enugu has a history more important to the nation than Ibadan. It was in Enugu that the first armed resistance against the british started, as well as the first major motion of the labor industry and this is how they preserved that


Simple, conventional and intelligent. The story is told and you don't need to preserve the houses of every single man in that display and his classmates and the average Ibadan person is suffering in comparison to life in Enugu



The English have history, why aren't they preserving slums? Does Ibadan have more history than Japan?

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by FreeGlobe(f): 8:26pm On Jan 27, 2015
bakynes:

Abeg make una free them na Igbo thread b dis so they think we are fools for leaving the ancient buildings abi if u go to some parts of Lagos in Epe, Ipaja you will find this ancient houses that is because the families have refused to sell d house or the lands just to maintain the heritage. Like if you go to that same ibadan you won't find good estates and buildings same as Abeokuta if their brains can tell them it's a deliberate act to leave it that way leave them let them keep ranting.
and you are typing this from the comfort of a modern house in a modern city. why don't you go dwell in those cave or encourage your people to do so instead of always claiming to be from a modern Lagos yoruba sophistication is only on paper.

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by wordcat(m): 8:53pm On Jan 27, 2015
BuddahMonk:
Check this. Thread and see how their youths are exhibiting rascality and violence yet they are not advising them.

The North is bleeding, the South is bleeding, the West is bleeding but East remain peaceful and violence free yet a mud dweller is showing a duplex occupant how a cement house look like

www.nairaland.com/2112020/what-pdp-did-apc-campaign

Nwa nne, unu achoro inye ndi ofe,mmanu hypertension?

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by wordcat(m): 9:02pm On Jan 27, 2015
Ikengawo:


While you were collecting files and files igbos were collecting plots and estates in your backyard.

O boy, na this kind reply dey cause war

But that's just the basic truth. Let him keep collecting files,,,,,,
Nwata kpachuo ibeya na-nku; asi na-okpara n'ajo ofia.

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Crayola1: 4:07pm On Jan 28, 2015
Adegbodolu1:


Burn our history and the mark of our great empires and civilisations past?

so you can equate us with those jungle hamlet swinging babarians from the east/

You no try at all....

Nothing about a slum is historic. You attempt to compare yourselves to Rome, Tokyo, and Cairo is an insult to real history.

What in that picture is the mark of empire?

jungle is even better what you have here a jungle is actually pleasant to look at grin
Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Crayola1: 4:16pm On Jan 28, 2015
bakynes:

Abeg make una free them na Igbo thread b dis so they think we are fools for leaving the ancient buildings abi if u go to some parts of Lagos in Epe, Ipaja you will find this ancient houses that is because the families have refused to sell d house or the lands just to maintain the heritage. Like if you go to that same ibadan you won't find good estates and buildings same as Abeokuta if their brains can tell them it's a deliberate act to leave it that way leave them let them keep ranting.

Lies, they cant sell because the money they would collect would not even be enough to afford a place better than the cr.aphole they are currently in.

If someone offered them more than 3 pennies on the dollar for these eyesores people would be selling left and right.

Maintain which heritage? by letting them fall apart? None of those houses have seen paint or a new roof since the first republic lol. No wonder all the businesses went under after Awo's Indigenization policy you people do the opposite of what is expected.

Running successful businesses means running a business poorly. Which is why GLO and Oando still trail MTN and BP in their hometurf.

Maintaining in the SW means to allow a building to fall apart as a sign or history.

I understand you people very well. It's always opposite day in the SW.

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Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by nwafuluozoh: 4:21pm On Jan 28, 2015
Ikengawo:
People always feel the need to advise Igbos on what to do politically. Meanwhile their father pays rent to an Igbo man in their father's own state and they're trying to get a job in an Igbo man's company. When I drive through Owerri, Asaba, and Enugu or see the level of wealth and industry in Onitcha, Nnewi, Aba, and PH I have a hard time understand why anyone feels it's Igbos that need advise.

This whole campaign has been igbos should do this and igbos should do that. Meanwhile the only region that hasn't had a bloody or violent election of rally in the past 6 years is the SE, and both candidates (both from other regions) are clamouring for no more important vote than the Igbo one.

Rest jor.
It's because they live in mortal fear of Igbos. They are aware of the fact that the odds tend to tilt towards any thing or person endorsed by Igbos.
Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by Sunnybobo3(m): 4:23pm On Jan 28, 2015
reporter1:
Stop fooling yourself. Nobody is advising Ibos to to do anything. Who gives a F as to what you do?

As for your phantom home ownership -how many people are paying rent to Ibos? Why do you people like to embellish yourselves? Does it really make you feel good? Are you suffering from grandiose delusion?

And which jobs are you talking about? The multinational jobs? Or you think spare part sellers are the employer of Labor in Yoruba land.
You need to get off your high horse.



Yoruba tenants pay rent to me in Yoruba land and I've got Yoruba people on my payroll in Yoruba land.
Re: The Habit Of Advising Igbos by nwafuluozoh: 4:27pm On Jan 28, 2015
shizzle11:
Its you and your ilks who are fooling yourselves and really need to get off your high horses you m0ron. yolobas have opened countless threads on what and what not igbos should do.

You lots need to focus more on yourselves and stop giving yourselves hypertension over the igbos who barely give a damn about how miserable and frustrated you feel about them. We all know the igbos are your nightmares such that you cant resist talking about them or offering your useless unsolicited advises.

Here is one the many idiottic threads created by one of your stewpid yoloba brothers advising the igbos, the people you claim you don't give a fvck about, yet you cretins cant stop ranting and exhibiting how miserable your lives are.

https://www.nairaland.com/2111028/what-igbo-need-know-before/2#30104217
The reason for their fixation is that they need us to validate their existence. You can't blame them the South East is like beautiful bride courted by all.

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