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Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by nonny001(m): 6:32pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
9jatriot: Dis Anti-Jona people self. Una own strong o! See what you're saying. That shows that you've not been following what has been happening in the country. You said that "all that this government does is tell lies". So who are now the ones telling the truth? Hm! Let me think... Ok! Now i know: it's those people feeding you with half truth, abi? Well it's not your fault. Where all you see in the dailies is boko-haram and sanusi NNPC scandal, how will you know the details of what GEJs govt. is doing in agriculture. And before you change the topic to $20 billion Scam. Let me just tell you. NNPC scam is a big lie o. NNPC independent audit has proven it o. I know the media will not let you know about that. So let me do you the favour, please see this article... http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/02/forensic-audit-report-no-money-missing-nnpc/ And back to our discussion... You said he has not built silos. Well brother, in case you don't know, President Jonathan has been building silos. He launched the biggest silo in Africa just last year. Please read it up here... http://leadership.ng/business/382912/food-security-receives-boost-fg-launches-silo-complex (and it's in your best interest to read it). You talk about transport, what are the trains for? Thank God you agreed that he succeeded in agriculture. And in case you don't know, it's not only fertilizer. It's also seedlings. You want the Govt. to come to tv and start teaching farmers before you believe? Interesting! May b u should go become an Agricultural Extension Worker so that you can break records. Agric ext. Service on tv? Really laughable. And one more thing, GEJ has been mechanizing the Nigerian agric industry. I know they won't bring it to the headline. So let me also do you the favour, go read it up here... http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/167288-jonathan-sets-aside-n50-bn-for-farm-mechanization.html 1 Luv bro. 1 Naija 1 Like |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jpphilips(m): 6:37pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Osakah24: OBJ may not have insurgency but how much did Jonathan spend in fighting insurgency? which is clear to you and I that it prolonged because of his negligence, (judging by 6wks success vs 5yrs cluelessness). If GEJ had the least sincerity of purpose, Boko haram was not supposed to last beyond 1yr, max 2yrs, is it why a govt wont achieve anything in 5yrs? he may have spent 900b fighting Boko haram also remember that OBJ spent $12b, to declare Nigeria debt free, the reason Jonathan is able to borrow today? Also recall that OBJ saved over $40b in our foreign reserves and created the Excess crude revenue account, two smart moves that immune Nigeria from Global melt down twice in his administration. Fall in crude prices= Affect oil producers alone, other nations can still help. Global meltdown = low oil price + declining world economy, in Global melt down, all your foreign investors will pull out their investments and funds, you don't make money because crude price will be low and you cannot borrow because the major creditors IMF, World bank are all broke, even when they have, their terms is so over the roof that no sane govt can meet it, that was what OBJ dealt with and you and I did not even notice. Today, ordinary Subsidy that Obj paid with ease, was causing riot for Jonathan let alone drop in crude prices, Nigeria nearly collapsed. There is no leader without Challenges but how you manage yours is what shows your depth and content, Jonathan has proved that he lacks what it takes to lead this nation, only his beneficiaries think otherwise. Do you know that there was a full blown war between 1967 to 1970 in Nigeria, not insurgency, a conflict with the highest casualty figures in the history of Africa, can you imagine what our economy looks like at the time? Enugu where our coal was coming from was affected, oloibiri oil was affected, but by the time Awolowo took over finance and the political will of a 32yr old Gowan, Murtala Mohammed and Obj, Nigeria enjoyed yet another oil boom in 1975-78, ask yourself, when was the investment,planning etc made? If Jonathan ever fought a war even if it is 6 months, he will hide behind it and sleep for 10yrs without raising a finger. What distraction is bigger than that, but they never complained and still did their jobs, that was the resilience of our heroes past not these chop chop politicians, do you know that our military heads of state live everyday like there will not be a tomorow? you may be in office today the next day is a coup and you are out, yet even in that fear still did their jobs. If you face the truth, GEJ is a bunch of excuses, Nigerians have seen worse. 5 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Nobody: 6:43pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
jmaine: Brother how do we measure the increase in entrepreneurs? Please don't tell me CAC. Funny reason you gave for a so called booming economy and people can't afford taxi fees. Why did you think redcab and co made so much profit that others had to copy their model? The economy isn't what it used to be brother. |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jpphilips(m): 6:44pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
juman: It was death that delayed our having electricity, what OBJ had on ground if Yaradua had continued, will bring the result we seek, the investments in power take time, all those plants Jonathan is playing around in today were mostly OBJ's brain child. yaradua actually stopped funding the NIPP because Elumelu distracted him, he was not alive to see the report of his committee that allowed Jonathan to continue funding it, citeris paribus, OBJ-yaradua, Nigeria would have had steady supply, who knows if Jonathan wouldnt have destroyed it by now. |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jonuel1(m): 6:56pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Teetomania: You talk about telecoms, isn't that the result of privatization? What was d fate of NITEL? Pple like u went ranting when GEJ privatized PHCN and u xpect to get jobs? Sentiments has so beclouded ur sense of rationality |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Nobody: 6:57pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Obiagelli:You typed many words without making a point. First, the Telecoms of Obasanjo was fraudulent especially the privatisation of NITEL. Abacha and not Obj had conceived the idea. Ideally, when their's such opening jobs springs out but is only sustainable when there is relevant policies and infrastructure. Obasanjo stayed for 8years, rather than improve infrastructure it went worse and rather than expand the banking, insurance and financial sectors, it became worse and fraudulent. This is why most of those things couldn't stand the test of them during the economic melt-down. The Agric policy of Obj was filled with so much fraud. The reason why we don't know exact figures is because there wasn't FOI to invoke. Sanusi saved our Financial Sector, we had to build from scratch. People started losing these same jobs. There was no power or relevant infrastructure which made running costs of organisation skyrocketed. Look at NITEL and NEPA reform of Obj. NITEL is practically DEAD, it was fraught with fraud courtesy Obj. The petroleum industry didn't fare better. What about the manufacturing sector? It was in comatose. Under Obj Nigeria imported tooth-pick in Aso Rock from italia(I don't know if we still import). This was so bad! When it comes to the process, though Jona is rather slow by my judgement he is far better than Obj. His Manufacturing drive will be the Greatest of His Achievement after the FOI Law(by my judgement). This sector is capable of employing hundreds of thousands of Nigerians and Support Organisations. You made mention of textile industry, how many Nigerians were patronising Made in Nigeria textiles even when that policy was invoke? How many jobs did it create? How sustainable were they? I am an apostle of local content but I won't want to distort facts. Like I said, GEJ reforms has lots of potentials. 1 Like |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jonuel1(m): 6:59pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
labiola: Sentiment has beclouded ur mind...isn't that d result of privatization? When GEJ privatized PHCN what did u say? |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by rhames(m): 7:01pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Sammiejokes: You cant take this from OBJ. He was far beter than what we have on ground. Employment into the civil service was not a connection thing but on merit. Obasanjo's implementation of the Telecoms masterplan and the banking consolidation programme of Prof. Soludo led to massive recruitment into these sectors. There were more small businesess established under OBJ than the present government. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jonuel1(m): 7:04pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
huptin: Just listen to your sef...in whose time did downsizing begin? |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jpphilips(m): 7:04pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
[quote author=remzytimer post=31003930] You seems not sure of what you are saying, or i should say you don't know what you are saying, how many of your brother were employed and how many were employed from your street during OBJ's regim. He was the who kill our economy and thereby cause a lot of unemployment in the society, they did not have any arrangement with private industry on employment issue rather they focused on their personal revenue, do you know how much he collected from MTN and every 1% card recharged goes into his personal account......I can vividly remember one of OBj's statement " That he has not found anyone killed hunger and that many can afford to buy gulder for N200" That is the problem with you guys, always finding a way to deviate from the substance, who said OBJ was not corrupt? but you will not down play the fact that he has sincerity of purpose in some areas, unlike Jonathan who is corrupt too but is totally directionless in his running of the country. what has 1% MTN unverified claim got to do with what we are saying? or you have a joint account with OBJ? GOODLUCK CAME UP WITH: This policy is one of the major issues bedazzling our economy today, remember it was done at the nick of 2011 election, to impress people like you, he never anticipated that oil prices will crash, someone whose economy is dependent on a volatile commodity, that was a 200% increase in one swoop, how many nations in the world has ever done that? States cannot pay and states with weak IGR are cutting salaries or owing workers or in heavy debt burden. the increment was an economic blunder, it was a tool to score political gains which most 2011 supporters are suffering it today, are you surprised most of them have joined the Buhari train? 2: WE NOW HAVE SCHOLARSHIP BY THE FEDERAL GOVT TO ALL FIRST CLASS GRADUATE 3: INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION TO REVIVE ALL OUR DEAD INDUSTRIES THAT WERE KILLED DUE TO PAST LEADER PERSONAL EGO Are you not old enough to mention each industry, who killed it and what was done to revive it, I think I have grown beyond blank statements 4: SURE-P TO ENCOURAGE YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS Another Blank statement, mention who the beneficiary is, what he was given, how many people he has employed compared to the population of jobless youths out there. Banks were writing test in two venues at every state during OBJ, employing people on Monthly basis. 5: GRADUATE INTERNSHIP PROGRAMME ,TO MAKE ALL OUR GRADUATE MORE EMPLOYABLE Blank statement 6: WOO INVESTORS, SO AS TO HAVE MORE INDUSTRIES BECAUSE WITHOUT INDUSTRIES THERE WILL ALWAYS BE UNEMPLOYED GRADUATE you woo industries but your people are complaining of employment, who did the industry employ, ghosts? 7: MANY WERE EMPLOYED IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS, MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND OTHER MINISTRIES |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Nobody: 7:04pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
jonuel1:My brother, honestly, these anti-GEJ people will go at every length to be economical with the truth. Even when I was with APC, I usually avoided this subject 2 Likes |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by juman(m): 7:10pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
jpphilips: It seems I don't understand your post. But anyway, that insincere obasanjo brought in an half dead yaradua to be the president. Yaradua didn't understand why so much money was needed to provide electricity. Goodluck jonathan started well on electricity when the former minister was there, he sacked some of those senior staffs that were not ready to work harder to get the government policy achieved but at the end of the day God knows why jonathan is unable to get it right on electricity. Well anyway, enough of pdp nonsense. |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Ela59: 7:15pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
9jatriot:He reduce the rate of imortation of poultry product. |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Nobody: 7:15pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
barcanista: (First, the Telecoms of Obasanjo was fraudulent especially the privatisation of NEPA.) this made any point? Obj didn't privatise nepa. The power projects gej is commissioning today was started by who? Most of the phase 1 was completed or rehabilitated by who? Infrastructure, tell me one major infrastructure that has been completed by gej and was not started by obj. Just mention one and i will concede this argument. I ask again what was/is the status of the stock exchange, insurance and banking sector under obj and gej (please do a count of how many jobs have been laid off by this sector.) Obj's agric policy full of fraud? Please be specific, in case you don't know, fertiliser isn't agriculture. What is the plight of poultry, fisheries, livestock, hides and skin, is there any food crop we currently don't import? Petroleum didn't fair better? Really? How many barrels of crude oil are we loosing daily compare to obj? Who was the champion of the LNG project? Where is the PIB? (don't even mention the Senate because gej knows how to get his bills passed) FOI You have been shouting foi all day, how many people has the bill put in jail? 1 Like |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jmaine: 7:21pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Obiagelli: We can remotely measure the increase by observing the new SME springing up in our immediate environment. The current admin has a priority for strengthening the SME sector in Nigeria with over 17 million businesses employing about 32 million people according to the recent stats by the Federal Bureau of Statistics (FBS) Though the CAC isn't a fool proof method of analyzing new businesses, it is a pointer at the willingness of Nigeria to engage in little start up business. Obiagelli: The culture of quantity over quality is a Nigerian phenomenon that overshadows financial muscle, It doesn't have anything to do with a booming economy or not. An average Nigerian is very comfortable boarding the usual yellow colored cab than those fancy cabs who charge cut throat prices for similar distances. When there is choice, an average Nigerian will go for cheaper and affordable route. Obiagelli: I don't know about any mega profit gained by the redcab gained but even at that, you should be aware of the "follow follow" culture of Nigerians in rushing massively into new businesses considered quite lucrative . . . Obiagelli: Your opinion sis. 1 Like |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Nobody: 7:38pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
jmaine: Brother this is credible enough. There's nothing to prove your claim of increased sme. |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by soulfood(m): 7:46pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
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Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by rockiedink(m): 7:51pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
huptin: Na GEJ say make your bank no increase your salary? Or name him say make them increase your target? People sha! |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Osakah24(m): 8:10pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
BoiledPlantain:Criticize well |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by erico2k2(m): 8:16pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
thunder74:The ordinary eye will not see this.Nice Observation my friend. |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jmaine: 8:36pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Obiagelli: Yes there is, certain Sectors of economy reveals such . . . . . The report, titled, “Nigeria’s GDP: Bigger but slower – Manufacturing is the engine of growth,” further strengthens recent figures by the Manufacturers Association of Nigeria, which showed that there was an increase in manufacturing capacity utilisation from 46.3 per cent recorded in the first half of 2013 to 52.7 per cent in the 2nd half of 2013. http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/07/manufacturing-sector-now-nigerias-major-economic-growth-driver-rencap/ |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Nobody: 8:42pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
jmaine:I can give you tens of articles to show that the economy is in shambles. Let's stick with the results people can feel. |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jmaine: 8:46pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Obiagelli: Showing me tens of articles doesn't invalidate a thorough research carried out by a very reputable body like RENCAP . . . . . . No matter what, you people feelings will be geared towards negativity for obvious reasons, so why should we take your subjective views devoid of hard facts . . . . . |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jpphilips(m): 8:49pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
ideologies: lolzzzzzzz |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jpphilips(m): 8:57pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Kingspin: Are you this low? Traffic warden jobs, farm laborer jobs etc. Please who are you guys? |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Nobody: 9:00pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
jmaine:Not my feelings o, this thread is from the job section devoid of politics. |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by 9jatriot(m): 9:00pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
nonny001: Your change of tone proves only one thing to me, you had admitted to yourself that fertilizer (if government's claim is even true) is just one aspect. However, the response of the quoted is what I will leave you with. jpphilips: |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by jmaine: 9:06pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Obiagelli: Does it in anyway change the fact that the thread is on the homepage which makes it readily available for the politics section hawks to feast on it. Is Obiagelli and Jmaine not posting here at the moment ? |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by 9jatriot(m): 9:27pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
nonny001: Bros non de support bad thing, you are better than this. Crude oil sold for more than $110 for more than 3 years, yet within 6 months of it reducing, our currency went south, then we asked why not fight it with excess crude funds, only to be told that even in surplus the gluttons still could not keep their hands off it non did they improve on it. OPEC has many countries yet only 3 countries were badly hit with the dip in crude price, viz; Venuezela, Rusia and Nigeria. Of the 3, the only one who had no business there was Nigeria. Why? Venuezela run a socialist/ welfarist kind of government, Rusia was under sanction from US but Nigeria had no excuse excess that he kind of government in charge had no idea of how to run a surplus government. Incase you yourself do not know, please read the bible about the dream pharaoh had about the 7 fat cow and the 7 thin cows. That is the real reason behind the sudden fall in naira. The free fall was in December, companies were already complaining long before then, that just put the final nail. Do visit the business section of nairaland once in a while bro. On the CAC one, you asked for specifics; here is one extract out of the many available: OFFICIALS of the Independent Corrupt Practices and other related offences Commission (ICPC) have begun a probe into alleged shady multi-billion naira contract deals at the Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC) headquarters in Port Harcourt, the Rivers State capital.https://www.nairaland.com/505532/nddc-multi-billion-naira-contract-scam http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66564:nddc-in-multi-billion-naira-contract-scam&catid=672:top-stories&Itemid=794 As for a private man Dangote that has suddenly become one of GEJ's achievement, need I remind you that he has been in business for a very long time. As a business man, he will invest even in a war torn country if he sees that he can make money from there, does that now mean that the worn torn country is doing well economically. Haba bros. 1 Like |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by Nobody: 9:29pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
jmaine:Okay , |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by MrNiceGuy5: 9:43pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Coldfeet:How do you create a job for yourself when there is no basic amenities? Even if you want to start with zero naira? No sector that is giving out loan without interest for the masses, No Light, No Water, nothing to start with and you want us to create job from nothing? Or is it by washing people's car, clothes, or collecting ticket in the park that you called job self creation? |
Re: Employment Rate: Obasanjo Vs Jonathan Regime by 9jatriot(m): 9:51pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
MrNiceGuy5: Niceguy, ignore all these people, selling a bad product that even you do not believe in is not an enviable job for any marketer. |
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