hensben:
Which kind mumu talk be this.

Is the kind of talk that advises your kind to understand a thing before criticism...

Lizabeth25:
Lol.......there are so many ways to punish such people!
whoever steal should be punished.! Simple!

How...provide answers abi solutions not just criticisms...

Whynotthetruth:




What's your name synonymous with

ehen taniod they are back runs out of thread!!

Dayg88:
Buh I don't think you know what you're saying @ op, GEJ himself said there are no corrupt people in his administration, they're just THIEVES...
Shikena

When did he say that bro?...can you authenticate this post with some evidence

The writer shuld av done more homework on this topic before posting here. Am sorry to disappoint you....you posted nonsense

GogetterMD:

I will take you seriously when you explain why Diepreye Alaimeshegha was granted a pardon, and what FFK, Bode George is doing around our amiable president. I think those acts discourage corruption now, don't it

Presidential pardon is for criminals and looters not for saints and good citizens bro...it is granted by state council which buhari and all APC governors are members...it cannot be granted if they don't support it...

On ffk, what's his crime? did any court convict him?
Do you know that APC leaders like saraki, goje, etc have similar cases in court; why not ask APC why they allowed them to represent them...that's if we follow your line of reason...

bidex:


Chief, is it today that they have been scamming us? is it today that they have been looting our monies? we did not just hear these stories today but it have tey.
spare your stories for the gods
how much were u paid?

so reasoning amount to being bribed? Its not your fault,you've been brainwashed. Just before you think its an abused,been brainwashed means to be conditioned to think along with someone else's ideals without thinking twice...for example if APC said anyone that think GEJ is trying his best,they'll see the person as being bought by PDP. APC have been manipulating people since 1660.

hensben:
The only thing that's constant in this life is CHANGE...same people that refuse to commit crime or steal during GMB regime because they know the repercussion might become arm robber under GEJ tenure due to he support and pardon corrupt practices..how is that GMB fault that people change after his regime. ...this post is dumb and sentimental.

Under who did Jokolo and emir commit crime
What about Gov Awwal?

inereunwa1:
ehen taniod they are back runs out of thread!!

Sure, before you run out...how do we fight and eliminate corruption from Nigeria?

major466:

Great writeup. Most Nigerians don't even know what it means to fight corruption. All they want is brute force where people are thrown in jail or shot by firing squard. They careless about preventive measures.
The best way to minimize corruption (Corruption can never be eradicated) is by blocking loopholes and avenues to corruption. And the best way to do that, as you rightly pointed out is by building institutions. Institutions with internal mechanism that is self sustaining and efficient to deal with corruption no matter who is in power. That's what is obtainable in civilized societies. This is an indictment on OBJ because he never fought corruption. All he did was to intimidate political enemies through EFCC.
Those people who are in the habit of accusing GEJ of not fighting corruption conveniently forgot that humans in general possess the affinity to commit crimes. For instance, the penalty for hawking drugs in some countries is dead sentence. Yet people still hawk drugs. Why? Because man has the penchant attitude to commit crimes. So is dead penalty the best way to deal with drug trafficking? Definitely not. So what's the best way to fight drug peddlers? Destroying drug farmlands. That's why some of these countries with high drug related crimes are destroying farmlands where drugs plants are planted and produced to minimize the rate of drug trafficking in the streets.
So is it with corruption. The best way to tackle a problem is from the root. This is what GEJ is currently doing through FOI, free press and information technology (ICT).

God bless you...

The belief that GMB will fight corruption is a LIE.

He doesn't understand the workings of demoracy in the first place. He believes he can send people to jail but forgot that it is the judiciary that will determine that; unlike in the military Era.

Whereas GEJ system is about prevention instead of cure. Things like e-payment for job done has eliminated cheques duplication in the ministry and parastatal. The man on the street do not know how much nigeria has saved from these.

Also the detection of ghost workers, fertilizer allocation system, etc which has prevented the committing of the crime in the first place is usually better than jailing. Prosecution is a cost element to the state treasury when prevention was possible.

GEJ believe in building schools rather than prison. He believe in awarding scholarship so that the greater populace will become indeed productive.

GMB on the other hand, believe in jailing people. He seem to have the sharia discipline sort of. Such sharia tendency does not serve any institutionalised long term goals; it practically dies with the leader, just like he did in his first tenure.

Boss13:
This is one of the dumbest post I have ever read.

Prosecuting corrupt persons is the last stage of fighting corruption. Where they are weak controls or the ineptitude of leaders to curb corruption, corruption will grow.

You first start fighting corruption through an anti-corruption bill. This sets the tone on how corruption will be tackled. The UK has about 4 Acts on Bribery and Corruption, including Acts of Terrorism and this is reviewed regularly.

Next, you check the controls in place to curb corruption, waste and theft. Now this is where Jonathan and his dumb aides are screaming (laughs). These controls (Physical or IT related) will ensure that it is difficult to engage in corrupt practices. Examples includes centralisation of payments (like the IIPS put in place by NOI), Proper authorisation of payments, good audit trails of transactions etc. These controls must be reviewed for weaknesses and strengthened at all times.

Now, because we have hardened criminals in this country, controls might not curb corruption. This is where prosecuting agencies like the EFCC and ICPC comes into play. However, these prosecuting agencies cannot prosecute or arrest persons who have engaged in corruption if they are not reported. Hence, there is the need for whistle blowing agency on corruption, where anonymous persons can whistle blow of suspected corrupt practices or alleged corrupt practices. Likewise, the office of auditor general of the federation, if they are very efficient should be able to spot corrupt transactions and report to the prosecuting offices.

Also, corruption does not end with Public offices alone. It is even more perpetrated in private organisations. Now, it should be mandatory that every organisation train their employee on anti-corruption practices and send training reports and attendance on an annual basis. Whistle blowing can also work for private organisations too. Directors or CEOs would gets involved with corruption should be blacklisted amid prison time and should never hold such position nor get involved with corporate governance. The same should be application to public officer holders too.

That is free consultancy and that is how you fight corruption.

All what you said requires the support of the judiciary and the legislature. The executive arm of government cannot solely fight corruption in Nigeria. This is what you should all understand.

organic973:
GEJ is not as corrupt as he is so accused.

I know that APC will go any length to disgrace GEJ but I have not heard them accusing GEJ evidently of embezzlement of funds or owning companies here and/or in abroad. If up till now no such accusations then GEJ is more sincere than all the APC put together.

Nigerians are wiser

Vote GEJ on march 28

if him get u go know, na after their tenure the, go begin show off their embezzlement remember.

Whynotthetruth:



Sure, before you run out...how do we fight and eliminate corruption from Nigeria?

true change every Nigerian needs change!!

Jbenue:
Ask a fish what comes to mind when he hears the name Nigeria, it will say corruption! Everyone knows that the cancer eating at the heart of this country is corruption and since the return to democracy in 1999 every politician running for the top job in the nation, has campaign on the premise of tackling corruption. Yet as we know all too well words are wind, we have seen minimal efforts, token gestures and down right indifference to actually solving this acute Nigerian sickness.

So when something does actually happen and high profile arrests are made and convictions are enforced the whole nation and the greater world takes notice to see whether this is a turning point in this diseased nation. That was the case when Diepreiye Alamieyeisegha was arrested in the UK on money laundering charges in 2005 and later convicted for said crimes. However in an unprecedented move the President Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan who happens to be Diepreiye Alamieyeisegha protege pardoned this convicted fraudster on grounds that he had shown sufficient remorse in 2013.

This man that goes on international television to embarrass perennially saying how he inherited a corruption nation and how he is doing his utmost to curb it. In that one act of pardoning a convicted and proven thief President Jonathan has done more to undermine the fight against corruption than any other Head of State in this nation history. But yet it seems Nigerians have short memories, in any other country this one act would render any public figure ostracized and lacking in credibility. To move Nigeria forward we must stymie the flow of unaccounted monies from the coffers at state and national level before we can talk about improving infrastructure and social development, Jonathan has demonstrated his indifference and unwillingness to carry out this critical task.

Presidential pardon is constitutional and is meant for criminals and looters not for saints and good citizens bro...it is granted by state council which buhari and all APC governors are members...it cannot be granted if they don't support it...

Finally, how can we fight corruption better in your own understanding

Whynotthetruth:



Ignorance is really bad bro... and most of you aren't ashamed to display theres...Sure, corruption isn't stealing neither in English dictionary nor in our constitution...Punishment for offenders aren't same for them too according to our constitution...

Finally, presidential pardon is for sinners not saints...offenders & criminals NOT good citizens...and it is granted by state council with president as chairman...buhari and other former heads of government as members alongside other APC governors and PDP governors, senate president & others......if any of them objected to the pardon; then it won't be granted...

u still haven't told us what institution gej is building to fight corruption because last time I check efcc is more active during obj tenure and even if there is this institution, the truth is corruption is on an astronomical level during this tenure than any other. and lastly how much did nwobodo stole?

Whynotthetruth:




So has killing and jailing of armed robbers helped to reduce armed robbery in Nigeria

.... did technology stop farouk lawan frm collecting bribe? did GEJ approach stop d money dah wznt remitted into NNPC acct? Did hz approach stop d kerosine subsidy scam? Even going by ur analogy, u seem nt to agree wiv pple being convicted of crimes. Prob u want a state of lawlessness whr offenders go unpunished.

xrisdon:


while making a point you don't start with insult, that will send a wrong signal, and will rubbish every thing no matter how good your point is!
I will ignore your first paragraph.


now your second paragraph said it all!

"Prosecuting corrupt persons is the last stage of fighting corruption."

thats what our president is currently doing!
taking it step by step, stage by stage before arriving to the last stage as you pointed out.


but for some people their knowledge on how to fight corruption starts and ends with the last stage! just by jailing people without finding the lasting solution to it.

Mister, please stop pretending that GEJ is fighting corruption. If he was, Nigerians are not dumb not to have known. Apart from the fertilizer subsidy scam which you refer to, what other sensible steps has GEJ taken to prove your point that he is doing anything with fighting corruption.

To a stunned national audience, GEJ declared that he is now coming up with plans to fight corruption. Is he for real? Coming up with a plan after almost six years?

And you want to defend a man that says "how much did Nwobodo stole that Buhari jailed him?" Are you for real?

Laid2001:
It was sigmund frued that said and I agree "People will obey the law when the consequence of breaking it outways the gain"
This is where GEJ has failed woefully, the thing is curropt officials knows that there is no consequence, during GEJ administration, for curroption, hence the impunity with which curroption has permiated the entire government and the whole country!! Even the few that were caught during OBJ regime were let go with inconsequencial purnishments!

With Buhari's proposer of wistle blower protection law and high handedness on curropt officials, at least people will know that long jail term await curropt officials!. In Nigeria, all that is required is to send few former governors and ministers on a long jail term of minimum of 20 years (Note that this is not unusual in advance countries) and allow the anti-curroption agencies to keep rolling on its own from there!.

Trust Nigerians, we will become law abiding immidiately because that will be enough to send us clear message on the resolve of the new government.

What is the rate of incidence of corruption in those countries using buhari kinda of style to those using Jonathan style

Why has death sentence not stopped incidence of drug trafficking especially in Muslim countries

mikeansy:
Buhari has already declared amnesty for the corrupt because he can not possibly arrest Amaechi and Tinubu

Exactly

inereunwa1:
true change every Nigerian needs change!!

ignorance is really bad bro...good pm

gwales:
u still haven't told us what institution gej is building to fight corruption because last time I check efcc is more active during obj tenure and even if there is this institution, the truth is corruption is on an astronomical level during this tenure than any other. and lastly how much did nwobodo stole?

Unfortunately, just like most criticisms on this thread; you all didn't even understand what strong institutions mean...it is not about efcc or icpc but a systemic approach to corruption fight...which involves nipping it in the bud...it is proactive not reactive...it emphasizes prevention rather than cure...

I am not criticizing anybody. I just feel that punishment should been apportion to whoever commit a crime under wise, if some people go scot free just like that after a crime committed, it will turn to everyday thing.!

Whynotthetruth:







How...provide answers abi solutions not just criticisms...

I think GEJ's way of fighting corruption is best to GMB coz you can not send an accuse person to Jail without a competent court find him or her quity of d crime which I believe dt's what Buhari wants to do

dotfam2104:
.... did technology stop farouk lawan frm collecting bribe? did GEJ approach stop d money dah wznt remitted into NNPC acct? Did hz approach stop d kerosine subsidy scam? Even going by ur analogy, u seem nt to agree wiv pple being convicted of crimes. Prob u want a state of lawlessness whr offenders go unpunished.

Unfortunately, just like most criticisms on this thread; you all didn't even understand what strong institutions mean...it is not about efcc or icpc but a systemic approach to corruption fight...which involves nipping it in the bud...it is proactive not reactive...it emphasizes prevention rather than cure...

To some of you examples; with the latest automated system of revenue collection Jonathan introduced... most agencies and ministries won't have access to cash talk more of stealing same...it is a cashless system...When there's no money; there won't be any stealing and you won't have a farouk lawan or subsidy scam because the system has been fixed...Now some exceptional cases that will crop up; will be very easy to detect and punished....
Just like how the system crashed last December when some people wanted to manoeuvre and steal...hence they only delayed federal staff salaries but didn't steal again... you can now trace such people and punish them...it is this magic that also helped stop fertilizer scam without much ado....thanks

Whynotthetruth:




Under who did Jokolo and emir commit crime
What about Gov Awwal?

Another yeye question..the question you should be asking how many years did GMB stay in office? So you expect him to convict every criminal within a short period in office..GEJ has spent 6 years in office, how many corrupt officials has he prosecuted?.. He is even pardoning and defending them.

Lizabeth25:
I am not criticizing anybody. I just feel that punishment should been apportion to whoever commit a crime under wise, if some people go scot free just like that after a crime committed, it will turn to everyday thing.!

Unfortunately, just like most criticisms on this thread; you all didn't even understand what strong institutions mean...it is not about efcc or icpc but a systemic approach to corruption fight...which involves nipping it in the bud...it is proactive not reactive...it emphasizes prevention rather than cure...
With the latest automated system of revenue collection
Jonathan introduced... most agencies and ministries won't have access to cash talk more of stealing same...it is a cashless system...When there's no money; there won't be any stealing and you won't have a farouk lawan or subsidy scam because the system has been fixed...Now some exceptional cases that will crop up; will be very easy to detect and punished....
Just like how the system crashed last December when some people wanted to manoeuvre and steal...hence they only delayed federal staff salaries but didn't steal
again... you can now trace such people and punish them...it is this magic that also helped stop fertilizer scam without much ado....thanks

Whynotthetruth:



ignorance is really bad bro...good pm

what do you know about ignorance Its ironic how you taniods speaks about ignorance i guess you dont know what it stands for anyway

davico2006:
I think GEJ's way of fighting corruption is best to GMB coz you can not send an accuse person to Jail without a competent court find him or her quity of d crime which I believe dt's what Buhari wants to do

.... u cant conclude base on wat u bliv. dere's no way he wld jail an accused person in dz democratic dispensation without a court trial. U need to be well informed bro b4 u draw ur conclusions. D APC intends to constitute a separate court to fasten corruptn cases nd dey'll change d penal code. All these things cant be possible without d lawmakers passing d bill into law in d upper nd lower chambers. He isnt cumn as a military administrator, things av changed. Dont equate a democratic govt he intends to preside over wit hz military reign.

hensben:
Another yeye question..the question you should be asking how many years did GMB stay in office? So you expect him to convict every criminal within a short period in office..GEJ has spent 6 years in office, how many corrupt officials has he prosecuted?.. He is even pardoning and defending them.

lolz... it is yeye question shey...Have you forgotten your question... if buhari was fighting corruption; how come that even his ADC was committing the crime under his leadership not when he left but right under him as head of state and as his ADC...

inereunwa1:
what do you know about ignorance Its ironic how you taniods speaks about ignorance i guess you dont know what it stands for anyway

If you aren't ignorant; I CHALLENGE YOU TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTIVE SOLUTIONS TO THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD WHICH YOU JUST INSULTED JONATHAN BECAUSE OF IT...

Focus on corruption:
In nigeria everything is corrupt. You and me.
*I beat traffic, do u?
*I desire excessive gain and u?
*I m selfish, u?
*Lie somethines, u?
*Cheat if chanced, u?
*Slightly Tribal, aren't u?
*emm possessive,
To shorten this list, build me friendly environment, not to jail or kill we.
Therefore u not corrupt if u'r innocent of the list.
Be the one to fight corruption.