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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by gwales: 5:03pm On Mar 13, 2015
xrisdon:
It means that you don't know what fighting corruption is all about, its not by making noise its by building strong institution that prevents corruption, just as Gej is doing
last time I checked this administration have done more in pardoning and associating with corrupt officials than preventing corruption.

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 5:22pm On Mar 13, 2015
gwales:
so gej that have pardoned corrupt officials is now better than the person even his most ardent critics have agreed that he is corrupt free. not forgotten that the president said corruption is not stealing

the point is not about the individual rather policy!

Gej believes in fighting corruption through bringing in ideas and policies that will make it impossible for corrupt people to operate!

Gmb believes only by jailing corrupt people without eliminating the root cause,

now which one is better on the long run?

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by Nobody: 5:23pm On Mar 13, 2015
Under Buhari's plan you can loot 1 trillion Naira on 28th May 2015 and go free but you can pinch 1 million Naira on 1st June 2015 and be jailed for it because of his planned amnesty

How is this a sensible way to run the affairs of Government? Government is a continuum

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 5:46pm On Mar 13, 2015
gwales:
last time I checked this administration have done more in pardoning and associating with corrupt officials than preventing corruption.

state pardon is constitutional!
Gej just acted on it, but if you are not comfortable with state pardon then canvas for its amendment, may be through the senator that is representing you.

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by vanndubi: 6:19pm On Mar 13, 2015
xrisdon:


I agree with you especially on this......
"what is the penalty for stealing govt's money?"
but again, thats where our law makers comes in,
they should enact laws base on that regard.

We have EFCC and ICPC laws. They seem only to prosecute and convict yahoo yahoo boys. Sadly, this administration has not successfully executed EFCC and ICPC law on any notable corrupt personality in country.
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 7:04pm On Mar 13, 2015
vanndubi:


We have EFCC and ICPC laws. They seem only to prosecute and convict yahoo yahoo boys. Sadly, this administration has not successfully executed EFCC and ICPC law on any notable corrupt personality in country.

hmmm, only if you know how these things work!

EFCC/ ICPC can not convict someone, the judges does!
for instant, EFCC may be aware that someone is truely guilty of an offence,
but if they don't have much evidence to prove it in court, they are on a long thing.

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by shigoslim(m): 10:29pm On Mar 13, 2015
Who is not corrupt in these country? Everyone is corrupt in one way of the other. Though we may not have reach the level of embezzlement of national cake as regards to our leaders.
If we all agree that buhari Opinion should be adopt and embrace then everyone should be ready to jail including OGA BUHARI. But by going through Gej system i think it will yield positive result but may take time in eradicate it completely.
More so corruption is another psychology disorders of human behavior, and should be treated psychotherapy. As individual Nigerian we need to start organizing town hall meeting that has to do with the negative effect of corruption in our society.
Our media should start putting on some various program that deal with anti-corruption in our society. There should customization of shirt, protest against corruption, primary and secondary orientation on effect of corruption and punishments that follow if caught in act.
Nigerian should not only agitating, criticising but seriously take an action that we curbs and bring corruption to Ezoro level. Enough of all this propaganda going on in our media outlet which had no value to our daily life. Our media should start channel their muscle on anti-corrupting program rather than promoting hatred amongst Nigerian.

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 11:11pm On Mar 13, 2015
well said ^^^

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 11:21pm On Mar 13, 2015
well said! ^^^^

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by vanndubi: 5:29am On Mar 14, 2015
xrisdon:


hmmm, only if you know how these things work!

EFCC/ ICPC can not convict someone, the judges does!
for instant, EFCC may be aware that someone is truely guilty of an offence,
but if they don't have much evidence to prove it in court, they are on a long thing.

When I say" they", I'm referring to a bigger system not just to EFCC or ICPC as a body. I keep mentioning EFCC and ICPC laws.

That bigger system is the Nigeria government, headed by the executive arm. As the main" paymaster", the executive arm dictates how those judges function.

We see and hear all manner of ridiculous judgements. Plea bargain: steal billions, return thousands and keep &enjoy the rest.meanwhile,steal a phone and be sentenced to 50 years in prison. Hope you know the cases I'm referring to?
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by tit(f): 5:41am On Mar 14, 2015
buhari will fight corruption with lies!
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 7:39am On Mar 14, 2015
our Noble mods should push this thread to FP for effective debate,
thanks
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by authority2006(m): 8:45am On Mar 14, 2015
How can you fight against something that you don't believe it exists? "Stealing is not Corruption", How much did Nwobodo stole? The money that was not enough to buy Peugeot car", "Corruption is not our problem" "Corruption is being exaggerated "."I won't fight corruption by sending people to prison". I wonder where he will send them. Do you have any idea about where he will send them?

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by double0seven(m): 8:55am On Mar 14, 2015
Please for God's sake, when will people stop saying nonsense. GEJ cannot fight corruption because he is corruption personified.

Even a blind man can see that GEJ cannot fight corruption and will not fight corruption Rather than fight corruption GEJ is promoting corruption to unprecedented levels. Rather than build institutions, GEJ is destroying institutions.

Few days ago, this government made it known that the civil defence corps and navy will be disengaged from guiding the pipelines; another set of multi billion naira contacts is under the way for Tompolo, Asari Dokunbo, and this time also including Gani Adams and Faseun. Now, you find our generals in the army answering yes sir to militants and glorifies touts. Is that how to build institutions?

The EFFC has become comatose?

A governor, Ayo Fayose of Ekiti has been ruling a state and making laws with only seven members of of twenty-six of the state assembly. He has permanently chased the nineteen other members away from the state assembly with the help of state security agency. This is unprecedented in the history of Nigeria.

Do how evil and dangerous this precedence is? The very foundation of our political life and civility, the Nigerian constitution is been blatantly and utterly contradicted and disregarded with no consequences whatsoever.

Do you know that if paraventure, GEJ is relected, Fayose will rule for four years with only seven legislators out twenty-six?

Did I hear you say again that GEHrig is building institutions? That's a big lie. GEJ IS A DESTROYER OF INSTITUTIONS. HE IS THE WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO OUR POLITY.

GEJ IS A VIRUS THAT URGENTLY NEEDS TO BE FLUSHED OUT OF THE NIGERIAN SYSYEM.

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 9:52am On Mar 14, 2015
authority2006:
How can you fight against something that you don't believe it exists? "Stealing is not Corruption", How much did Nwobodo stole? The money that was not enough to buy Peugeot car", "Corruption is not our problem" "Corruption is being exaggerated "."I won't fight corruption by sending people to prison". I wonder where he will send them. Do you have any idea about where he will send them?

Is it buhari that will fight corruption when he don't even believe that a well known criminal is corrupt,
simply because he served in his goverment!
remember....

Abacha is not corrupt........ Gmb

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 2:56am On Mar 15, 2015
tit:
buhari will fight corruption with lies!

its obvious he can't fight corruption, he is surrounded by corrupt people..
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 7:34am On Mar 15, 2015
vanndubi:


When I say" they", I'm referring to a bigger system not just to EFCC or ICPC as a body. I keep mentioning EFCC and ICPC laws.

That bigger system is the Nigeria government, headed by the executive arm. As the main" paymaster", the executive arm dictates how those judges function.

We see and hear all manner of ridiculous judgements. Plea bargain: steal billions, return thousands and keep &enjoy the rest.meanwhile,steal a phone and be sentenced to 50 years in prison. Hope you know the cases I'm referring to?

Remember we are still operating presidential system of goverment!

we have what is called... 'separation of power"
so, why are you saying that the executives controls the judiciary
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by vanndubi: 10:52am On Mar 15, 2015
xrisdon:


Remember we are still operating presidential system of goverment!

we have what is called... 'separation of power"
so, why are you saying that the executives controls the judiciary

Who approves the appointment of judges? Do judges have any say in national budget like the legislative arm has Who determines the salaries and allowances of judgesRemember, he who pays the piper calls the tune.

This is an extract from Wikipedia on the structure and organisation of Supreme court of Nigeria:
"The Supreme Court is composed of the Chief Justice of Nigeria and such number of justice not more than 21, "appointed" by the President on the "recommendation" of the National Judicial Council and subject to "confirmation" by the Senate". You see how dependent judiciary is?

That your" separation of power" exist only in secondary school government textbooks.

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by xrisdon(m): 1:36pm On Mar 20, 2015
vanndubi:


Who approves the appointment of judges? Do judges have any say in national budget like the legislative arm has Who determines the salaries and allowances of judgesRemember, he who pays the piper calls the tune.

This is an extract from Wikipedia on the structure and organisation of Supreme court of Nigeria:
"The Supreme Court is composed of the Chief Justice of Nigeria and such number of justice not more than 21, "appointed" by the President on the "recommendation" of the National Judicial Council and subject to "confirmation" by the Senate". You see how dependent judiciary is?

That your" separation of power" exist only in secondary school government textbooks.

I understand what you are talking about,

but the judiciary have been given free hand to operate without interference, especially in this administration!

thats why we must support Gej.
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by TippyTop(m): 1:47pm On Mar 20, 2015
Gmb just jail everybody, GEJ let the rule of law to take its course.
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by dotcomnamename: 1:48pm On Mar 20, 2015
[size=20pt]GEJ born to be confused and so are his followers[/size]

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by TippyTop(m): 1:49pm On Mar 20, 2015
xrisdon:
Buhari promised to kill corruption if elected!

http://leadership.ng/news/417280/ill-kill-corruption-in-nigeria-buhari


But here is my personal submission.....

buhari can never kill corruption!!!

he couldn't kill corruption when he had absolute power as military dictator,
but think he can do it now as a constitutional president, what a joke!!!

first, buhari do not know how to fight corruption! supposing he did know, Nigeria would have been corrupt free by now, because buhari was once a head of state!

secondly, l prefer Gej's way of fighting corruption to that of buhari!

buhari believes in fighting corruption by jailing people with little or no care on the root cause!

while Gej on the other hand believes in building corrupt free system that can last even when he is no longer there!!

but unfortunately most Nigerians prefer action with no result,

for instant, do you know how many people buhari would have sent to jail because of fertilizer scam without solving the problem itself!
but Gej came in change the corrupt system that have been there for years even to the time of buhari,
But now it is impossible for corrupt people to operate with the new system without making too much noise about it.


CORRECT, GBAM 10000000 likes.
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by edo3(m): 1:51pm On Mar 20, 2015
Has ebele ever fought corruption?? A country where corruption is ordinary stealing.
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by nairabetguru(m): 1:51pm On Mar 20, 2015
xrisdon:
Buhari promised to kill corruption if elected!

http://leadership.ng/news/417280/ill-kill-corruption-in-nigeria-buhari


But here is my personal submission.....

buhari can never kill corruption!!!

he couldn't kill corruption when he had absolute power as military dictator,
but think he can do it now as a constitutional president, what a joke!!!

first, buhari do not know how to fight corruption! supposing he did know, Nigeria would have been corrupt free by now, because buhari was once a head of state!

secondly, l prefer Gej's way of fighting corruption to that of buhari!

buhari believes in fighting corruption by jailing people with little or no care on the root cause!

while Gej on the other hand believes in building corrupt free system that can last even when he is no longer there!!

but unfortunately most Nigerians prefer action with no result,

for instant, do you know how many people buhari would have sent to jail because of fertilizer scam without solving the problem itself!
but Gej came in change the corrupt system that have been there for years even to the time of buhari,
But now it is impossible for corrupt people to operate with the new system without making too much noise about it.



just passing by tongue
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by odeh1(m): 1:52pm On Mar 20, 2015
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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by dvee2: 1:52pm On Mar 20, 2015
Does GEJ fights corruption? Be objective and fair to yourself and answer this question
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by free2ryhme: 1:53pm On Mar 20, 2015
xrisdon:
Buhari promised to kill corruption if elected!

http://leadership.ng/news/417280/ill-kill-corruption-in-nigeria-buhari


But here is my personal submission.....

buhari can never kill corruption!!!

he couldn't kill corruption when he had absolute power as military dictator,
but think he can do it now as a constitutional president, what a joke!!!

first, buhari do not know how to fight corruption! supposing he did know, Nigeria would have been corrupt free by now, because buhari was once a head of state!

secondly, l prefer Gej's way of fighting corruption to that of buhari!

buhari believes in fighting corruption by jailing people with little or no care on the root cause!

while Gej on the other hand believes in building corrupt free system that can last even when he is no longer there!!

but unfortunately most Nigerians prefer action with no result,

for instant, do you know how many people buhari would have sent to jail because of fertilizer scam without solving the problem itself!
but Gej came in change the corrupt system that have been there for years even to the time of buhari,
But now it is impossible for corrupt people to operate with the new system without making too much noise about it.


and it will forever remain a personal opinion and not a statement of fact

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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by demandtruth: 1:54pm On Mar 20, 2015
bokohalal:
GEJ does not fight corruption.

...he has a dinning conference for the corrupt; eating and drinking corruption.

Gej can't give what he lacks.
He lacks accountability
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by odeh1(m): 1:55pm On Mar 20, 2015
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Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by kingthreat(m): 1:55pm On Mar 20, 2015
This opinion doesntmake sense.
Corruption cannot be killed. Its a tendency that can exist in every part of the world. What we need is strong institutions to curtail it.
How has GEJ fought corruption so far? a man who himself is massively corrupt.
And about jails, if you don't think thieves should be jailed, sorry to say but you're extremely gullible.
Re: Gmb's System Of Fighting Corruption $ Gej's Which Is Better by slimfit1(m): 1:56pm On Mar 20, 2015
xrisdon:
Buhari promised to kill corruption if elected!

http://leadership.ng/news/417280/ill-kill-corruption-in-nigeria-buhari


But here is my personal submission.....

buhari can never kill corruption!!!

he couldn't kill corruption when he had absolute power as military dictator,
but think he can do it now as a constitutional president, what a joke!!!

first, buhari do not know how to fight corruption! supposing he did know, Nigeria would have been corrupt free by now, because buhari was once a head of state!

secondly, l prefer Gej's way of fighting corruption to that of buhari!

buhari believes in fighting corruption by jailing people with little or no care on the root cause!

while Gej on the other hand believes in building corrupt free system that can last even when he is no longer there!!

but unfortunately most Nigerians prefer action with no result,

for instant, do you know how many people buhari would have sent to jail because of fertilizer scam without solving the problem itself!
but Gej came in change the corrupt system that have been there for years even to the time of buhari,
But now it is impossible for corrupt people to operate with the new system without making too much noise about it.

Only a corrupt mind would take substance out of your trash essay. Your text is only valuable in a grave.

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