johnw74:

I suppose it could be said that the jw's are the modern day pharisees.

the pharisees deny the trinity - so do the jw's

johnw74:

the pharisees deny the Diety of Christ - so do the jw's

johnw74:

the Pharisees deny the physical resurrection of Christ - so do the jw's

johnw74:

the pharisees deny salvation by grace - so do the jw's

nutarious:



COMMON guy, why are u misquoting me.............................

i said the jews dont know Jesus in the old testamemnet, haba!

Jesus is jew nha and i know that , check previous thread, a guy posted 7 Almighty God and 3mighty God in the old testament....................

i repeat old testament..........................................i even said the patrichs

so my point if the jews inthe old testament call God mighty God and Almighty God whats the problem....................


the old testament has JEW CALLING God the almighty and the mighty God........................................pls dont misquote me again


who dpdsnt know jesus was born a jew, my reference was to old testament, if they in the old testament call God both and later refer to him as same in the nwe testament so what all the Arquement, since JESUS only came during the later time in the new testament and was still adreees as same way the old testament JEWS adrres GOD

Jesus was not address as the Almighty God of the Jews or any person in the New testament.

nutarious:


YOUR knowledge of God is not up to 300 years and was brought to you by a man that did not bled for God nor was matriah for God................

Your knowledge of God does not allow you access to the holy spirit.................i wonder how u connect to GOD........

Your knoledge of GOD means u are not christians.......................u aint foloowers of christ so you r best term as JUdist

Your knowledge of GOD deprive you of mixing, marrying or mixing, must seem ur god WANTS U tohimself alone

Your knowledge of God makes u denial scriptures when they are reAL AND ROOTED...................U DO UNDERSTD god lol

Your knowledege of GOD MAKES U REWRITE BIBLE.........................................u do no god

their are churches in the bible and their acts and how they were formed were well articulated in the bible, romans, corintians etc under JESUS........................................I WONDER WHAT URS ARE......................funny u have this early churches in ur edited bible yet wont follow their ways....................................is this the salvation that was preached all thru new testament....................................if u had come out and say u are practising Judaism it would have make sence, that way u guys shd have cut the whole of NEW testament out so trhat we know u are judist but to put New testament , edit it and still have the acts of the early churches but not follow it.......................seems to me ANTICHRIST.

in ur attack of Jesus u surly will be cut out from receiving the holy Ghost............................i have lot of JW and for real the conscept of holy ghost seems so strange to them, there is no way u can receive holy spirit without accepting JESUS AS GOD...


have u guys noticed ur limitations,

1= no holy spirirt

2= no miracles

3= no spiritual understanding other than having to defend ur belief

4= no mixing with other xtian, except u mean ur outings is preaching

5= no renew men of GOD

6= devotion to church instead of fellowship with God

7= constriction to same set of religious understanding, no diversity.

kai, psycholgical problems associated to religion


have u notice how GOD works in mystrious ways in pentecostal churches, start naming bonke, adeboye , tb joshua, oyaks etc


retreats, deliverances, exorcism, miracles and strong ministry of the church.......................................aside ur beliefs that u preach around u have notinhg to show for it, as it was in the days of Jesus so it is now in terms of CHURCH.......................we dont even know u existed, lol


JESUS IS SWEET, HE IS GOD..........................................HE IS LORD


IN life constricting urself about what u were told is hypnosis

u gotta find out and be free like a bird beyond the scope of MAN..............................................

nutarious:
THE hard part for JW is how can GODHEAD BE SEPRATE, GENESIS 1-2 tHE SPIRT OF GOD IS DETACH , AND CAN BE SEEN ROAMING ON THE SURFACE OF FORMLESS EARTH, IF YOU BELEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIRT IS A SPIRIRT OF GOD, and he is a part of GODHEAD, THEN y is it hard to acept tht of JESUS, in as much it has been proven we are 3 in 1 by creation by the bible, and GOD said he created us in his image you must mean GOD was lieing?

RikoduoSennin:


We don't believe in "Godhead".

We believe Holy spirit is not a person nor a being.

We believe Man is not three in one by creation; Read Ezekiels dry bone shall rise again account or the resurrection of the two witness in Revelation.

neither our Soul, body nor our Spirit can call the other my son and Father, can they.

Jesus has a God and he repeated told you but you won't believe him because you want him to come back to earth, tell you himself, then you would believe.

nutarious:



COMMON guy, why are u misquoting me.............................




........................................pls dont misquote me again

RikoduoSennin:


You have it wrong! Don't Slander like the devil does very often!

RikoduoSennin:


YOUR GOD must have CONFUSED Stephen

RikoduoSennin::


Must I correct you often?

You said God and the Word (Who also God) talked

Or is Jesus not God again?

God and God talked, If this person refer to as God and the Second person is together ONE GOD, then God spoke to himself ko?

I RikoduoSennin is saying that, that God is CONFUSE. Why send himself to the Earth in the first place?

RikoduoSennin:

The Points is Knowing WHO YOU WORSHIP, I don't worship a complex God whom I don't know is real identity.

RikoduoSennin:


Are you denying your previous post: "God spoke to another person in the Godhead".

RikoduoSennin

Conclusion is God spoke to himself, heheheheheheh!

RikoduoSennin:





You still don't know your Bible. Is it the Pharisee or Saduccess that don't believe in RESURRECTION?

Jesus said "No one enters the Kingdom without being born again" and Only those who do the will of his Father be be save but those screaming Lord Lord won't!

RikoduoSennin:



Note: You and I don't have the same God. While your God is a triune being mine is Just one- Jehovah the Father of Jesus.

Re-Read My post and see which God I was addressing.

johnw74:


There is only One True God now, it has always been
My mighty and Almighty God is One God, He is Jehovah, and He is Jesus, God and the Word.

RikoduoSennin


Then I will say your "Mighty and Almighty God" must be a nut job ...

nutarious:



Am really interested now, so who is the holy spirit.....................................



who is the Holy spirit? not a person or being? what is he?

nutarious:

u caught urself by saying u beleiving in holy spirirt,
i can see u are doing alot to defend another mans's illusion?lol.

nutarious:

U said JESUS DINT BELEIVE IN TRINITY...................U SAID HIS DISCIPLES DINT BELEIVE TOOO.............

UR IGNORANCE is 1st class, no need to quote scripture to u bro, u have decided....................lol

nutarious:

disciples new the father for they were all judist and judaism taught them about God the father, now they were disciples to the son and jesus promised the world Holy spirit where they were the first beneficials, where in acts they received holy spirit and got diverse heavenly gift..................................................and yet u said they dont believe in trinity

nutarious:

do you know all apostles and disciples baptised in the name of the father,son,and holy sspirt, it there in the bible.................

nutarious:

ur religion is not xtianity but judaism, i wonder why u still alowed new testament in ur edited bible.................
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johnw74:



If jw riko was truthful, they would accept from scripture that Jesus Christ is God.

johnw74:

The Father could be said to be the Father of Angels, and the Angels can be said to be the sons of God because He created them.
But God begat Jesus, to begat means to generate offspring,
dog begats dog, of it's own kind,
human begats human, of his own kind,
God begats God, of His Own kind,

God does not beget an Angel, that would be similar to a man begetting a monkey.

johnw74:

riko is jw, jw did say that God confused Stephen:

johnw74:

There is the confusion of not knowing that God and the Word are two persons, One God.

johnw74:


if God beget an Angel then God would be an Angel,
He isn't, and so His only begotten Son cannot be.

johnw74:

That is correct, God speaking with the Word.
riko mocks, saying God spoke to Himself.

johnw74:

Correction: jw is modern day Pharisees and Saduccess.

johnw74:

Did you say someone doesn't know the Bible?
Truly the five virgins were not locked out because they called Lord Lord, most would know how ridiculous that explanation is.
They were shut out because they were lukewarm, they had not God's Spirit.
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Sound familiar?

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

johnw74:


Father, Son and Holy Spirit is One God but being untruthful is not new to riko.

johnw74:

I'm not interisted in your false excuses,
I would have told you to go to God about it,
but I'm sure now after your blaspheming God, that you don't know Him,
more accurately, He doesn't know you.

My God, the true God according to scripture and that RikoduoSennin blasphemed.

johnw74:

Emphasis is mine.

johnw74:

Showing the Divinity of the Word, become Jesus Christ.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

johnw74:

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

The Word who became Jesus made all things John 1:3
God created the heaven and the earth Genesis 1:1

johnw74:

God and the Word, who became Jesus, two persons speaking:

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness....

Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man has become as one of Us,...

Gen 11:7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language,...

johnw74:

God and the Word, is the Holy Spirit:

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, If a man loves Me, he will keep My Word. And My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.

RikoduoSennin:


Trinity Say there are Three Gods, Jesus said "there is only one that is GOOD, that is God and he rejected being called God" - (Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19).

So, How is baptising[b] in the name of John, Peter and James[/b] the same things as John, peter and James being one person, equal, existed from the same time etc Things the doctrine of Trinity talk about.

Christianity means followers of christ, we follow Christ not the Jewish custom, so we are christians.

RikoduoSennin:


Paying attention is important: did you not notice the word "Your" in the statement.

How can spirit beings beget? Are they hemaphrodite? How did God beget Jesus?

Hahahahahahaha, thank you very much!

The story of the ten virgins is it a Parable or not? What is a parable? What moral lesson does this parable mean (hint: preparedness not what you are referring to).

On the Last day, people will be judge according to their?

A: Faith
B: Sin
C: Deeds
D: None of the Above
E: All of the above

RikoduoSennin:

Riko: Who is the Father?

John: God

Riko: Who is the son?

John: God

Riko: who is the holy spirit?

John: God?

Riko: Are these three (the father,the son, and the Holy spirt) one/same person?

John: No, THEY ARE THREE SEPERATE/DIFFERENT PERSONS

Riko: So they each are God that means three Gods then?

John: No, these three persons are ONE GOD.

Riko: How can three be one entity, Explain

John:...............(evade)

johnw74


I'm not interisted in explaining Truth to you anymore since you blasphemed God.
But I may from time to time show up some of your wrongs.

Hehehehehehehe, Satan said to Jesus ....

RikoduoSennin:

So If Father and Son plans to visit your abode, how ....

CAPTIVATOR:
Johnw74 , says:

"for us there is one God, the father and son.

SCRIPTURE SAY:
For us there is one God, The Father ! 1cor 8:6

Catholic and protestants say :
" For us , There is one God, the Trinity"

RikoduoSennin:


I was waiting to see how you will include "Jesus is God Almighty" into that Bible verse. Because I can't see it in all the Bible translations I have.

Jesus a God who has a personal God like us! How can he been ALL-MIGHTY?

johnw74:


There is One God the Father

nutarious:
Funny guy, I said baptism in the name of Father,Son,Holy Spirit. U said John James and blabla. Are u making sence?


U haven't answer my question

1=i ask who Holy Spirit was, u said it should be what holy spirit is, yet u dint answer it. The Holy Spirit is detached and can be seen doing lot of things as gen 1-2 said and he is solely responsible for the church currently. Pls what is holy spirit to you, we need explanations on what he is cos according to u holy spirit can't be God or must be a lesser God or an angel. So give us what holy spirit is to JW and with regards to Godhead.


2= Another important question you never attempt to answer is why ur own organization is dift from the early church. The early church were orderly and we'll articulated, u had it in ur edited Bible yet won't follow. Where did u get the instructions to set up ur organization?


3= what is the difference BTW you and Islam. A man brought an illusion without other witness other than himself. Where and who instructed JW to organize JW.


4=you agree Jesus is God yet you Do not agree he is equal to God. Are u saying there are Gods.?


5= God is a jealous God so says the scripture, he won't share his glory with anyone. Yet here u present God as dift from Jesus. Does it mean God deliberately allow God take glory for his name has been given all authority.


6= isn't it blasphemous to change original Bible to Ur own taste, what does it speak of ur morals. Ur foundation is faulty. My question is why trust a Man's word against the early apostles who bled and got killed for Jesus ministry.

7=lastly, Jesus was not Jesus in the beginning, he was the word. He became Jesus when the word mix with Blood, are u following? And thus became man, for the redemption of our soul. From Word to Jesus, back to the word..................My Question is why is it hard for you not to see beyond your JW and follow this scripture analytically. Why denial, can't u see u are finding it hard defend what u dint create, JW is a man's creation why will his own words be greater than all the Apostles? Sit down and reason brother.....

Bible say Jesus will come to judge this world, will you still see as Angel when he arrive. Have u noticed that u have been cut out from heavily gift. No spiritual proof from JW other than ur edited scripture. No miracles, no power on demons, limitations in speaking to God. Kai, will u compare urself with pentecostal. Where individuals are independent of their churches. You have no alternative, it's like watching NTA alone. Wise up man and seek God.

CAPTIVATOR:


" He is one, and there is no other beside him" , at this Jesus discern that he had answered INTELLIGENTLY . - MARK 12:32-34

YOU have also confess the truth .

TRUTH is light and it will continue to pursue darkness .

johnw74:

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

One what, One in agreement, but that's not all, there are three, so they are not one person,
they are one God.

Gal_3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

johnw74:

God is the Holy Spirit, the Word is the Holy spirit, God and the Word is the Holy Spirit, the One God is the Holy Spirit:

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, If a man loves Me, he will keep My Word. And My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.