You don't have to define me through Boko Haram, Al Qaeda or ISIS just because I am a Muslim. Like many millions innocent Muslims across the globe, I should not be held responsible for the stupid actions of few Muslims or those who pretend to the world to be Muslims whereas in their hearts is that of Kufar (unbelievers, evil doers). I can only held responsible for my own action, not theirs.

Muslims like Christians, Hindus, Baha'i, Sikhs, Buddhists etc have good and bad people. The bad few Muslims that go about shedding innocents blood give the haters of Islam the opportunity to haul damaging propaganda against the religion and it adherents. The propaganda only institutionalized another dimension of terrorism. Terrorizing peace loving Muslims just because Islam is their religion.

When Muslims are killed the media hardly mention the incidence but when adherents of other religion are killed by disgruntled Muslims the media take to their hypes, reporting and repeating the events every second.

I read today in the media that members of ISIS lined up some blindfolded Ethiopian Christians at the beach and shot them point blank. The atrocities of ISIS is meted not only to the Christians but every Muslim that do not tread their line of belief or are seen as suspect or threat. In fact, more Muslims have been displaced and killed by this group than any faithfuls. The way the Western media report the crime of Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, ISIS only helped in demonizing Islam and instigating hatred toward the Muslim population. This, to me, is a subtle terrorism against the Muslim world. This is unfair, absolute injustice. In fact, to be candid, this is man inhumanity to man.

Every religion have adherents that engage in terrorism. At every point on the globe live people that terrorize others. Therefore, terrorism should not be taken or seen as synonymous with Islam or Muslims. What do you call that of Myanmar where thousands of Rohingya Muslims were murdered and others were driven out of their ancestral homes by the dominant Buddhist population. Was Lord Buddha, the founder of the faith a terrorist. No, he wasn't. But today, the people that profess the faith are far different from the founder. The world hardly know that Rohingya Muslims were driven to the sea to drown by the Buddhists yet the world looked away. This is double standard, injustice and inhumanity. Have we forgotten so soon when Bosnia Muslims were slaughtered in their thousands by Serbian force in the presence of NATO force. What do you call that?

Islam never promote terrorism. Terrorism is not a religion thing but political. If terrorism is to be taken on the basis of religion then every religion is not free from it.

In conclusion, the media, whether print or electronic, especially the Western media should report every events as they actually happened. Investigative journalism should be embrace. Islam and Muslims are not the problem of human race, the problem are those who spread propaganda to discredit Muslims in order to hide their involvement in terrorism.

Lateef K. Salami

source: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10206415690700699&id=1521453825&refid=7&_ft_=qid.6139749291270627788%3Amf_story_key.1363009028311069999

Edwardhead:
You don't have to define me through Boko Haram, Al Qaeda or ISIS just because I am a Muslim. Like many millions innocent Muslims across the globe, I should not be held responsible for the stupid actions of few Muslims or those who pretend to the world to be Muslims whereas in their hearts is that of Kufar (unbelievers, evil doers). I can only held responsible for my own action, not theirs.

Muslims like Christians, Hindus, Baha'i, Sikhs, Buddhists etc have good and bad people. The bad few Muslims that go about shedding innocents blood give the haters of Islam the opportunity to haul damaging propaganda against the religion and it adherents. The propaganda only institutionalized another dimension of terrorism. Terrorizing peace loving Muslims just because Islam is their religion.

When Muslims are killed the media hardly mention the incidence but when adherents of other religion are killed by disgruntled Muslims the media take to their hypes, reporting and repeating the events every second.

I read today in the media that members of ISIS lined up some blindfolded Ethiopian Christians at the beach and shot them point blank. The atrocities of ISIS is meted not only to the Christians but every Muslim that do not tread their line of belief or are seen as suspect or threat. In fact, more Muslims have been displaced and killed by this group than any faithfuls. The way the Western media report the crime of Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, ISIS only helped in demonizing Islam and instigating hatred toward the Muslim population. This, to me, is a subtle terrorism against the Muslim world. This is unfair, absolute injustice. In fact, to be candid, this is man inhumanity to man.

Every religion have adherents that engage in terrorism. At every point on the globe live people that terrorize others. Therefore, terrorism should not be taken or seen as synonymous with Islam or Muslims. What do you call that of Myanmar where thousands of Rohingya Muslims were murdered and others were driven out of their ancestral homes by the dominant Buddhist population. Was Lord Buddha, the founder of the faith a terrorist. No, he wasn't. But today, the people that profess the faith are far different from the founder. The world hardly know that Rohingya Muslims were driven to the sea to drown by the Buddhists yet the world looked away. This is double standard, injustice and inhumanity. Have we forgotten so soon when Bosnia Muslims were slaughtered in their thousands by Serbian force in the presence of NATO force. What do you call that?

Islam never promote terrorism. Terrorism is not a religion thing but political. If terrorism is to be taken on the basis of religion then every religion is not free from it.

In conclusion, the media, whether print or electronic, especially the Western media should report every events as they actually happened. Investigative journalism should be embrace. Islam and Muslims are not the problem of human race, the problem are those who spread propaganda to discredit Muslims in order to hide their involvement in terrorism.

Lateef K. Salami

source: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10206415690700699&id=1521453825&refid=7&_ft_=qid.6139749291270627788%3Amf_story_key.1363009028311069999

People often wonder why a lot of Muslim riots and protests occur after
Friday prayers and why people like jihad john, Osama and other
terrorists are devout mosque attending Muslims.
Most moderate Muslims will use AL TAQIYYA or ignorance and quote this
non-compulsion of religion verse: Qu'ran2: 256
Sahih International
"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right
course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in
Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold
with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
But they refuse to mention the other verses which compels their terrible
religion on others. Remember the quran is a book that is filled with
contractions and abrogations and even commands for Muslims to lie and
deceive infidels eg Kitman and al Taqiyya..
Here is a little sample of the over 100 quran verses Islamic terrorists
use to justify their acts of terror as commanded by Mohammed with
total disregard for the non-complusion of religion earlier stated ;
Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor
hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His
Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the
People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and
feel themselves subdued.
Qur’an 9:28—O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let
them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if
ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty,
for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Qur’an 9:30—The Jews call Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call
Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they
but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on
them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
Qur’an 9:31—They take their priests and their anchorites to be their
lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the
son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is
no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the
partners they associate (with Him).
Qur’an 9:32—Fain would they extinguish Allah’s Light with their mouths,
but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even
though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
Qur’an 9:33—It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and
the Religion of Truth, to prevail it over all religion, even though the
Pagans may detest (it).
Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians
for friends; they are friends of each other.
Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the
hypocrites and be unyielding to them.
Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and
their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in
Allah's way, so they slay and are slain.
Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are
near to you and let them find in you hardness.
Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when
ye should be uppermost.
Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are
with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among
themselves.
"The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be
worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except
in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits
illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate)
and leaves the Muslims." (Bukhari, Book 83 Number 17)
Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight
against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but
Allah.”
Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and
Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but
Muslims.”
Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having
fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of
hypocrisy.”
Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets
Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will
meet Him with a deficiency.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 6922—Allah’s Messenger said, “If anyone changed his
Islamic religion, then kill him.”
Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of
this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE
SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD"
Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and
their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they
fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him
in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the
Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then
rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement
supreme."
Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to
earn the pleasure of Allah..."
Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that
will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His
Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with
your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but
knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath
which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity:
that is indeed the Supreme Achievement."
This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including
verses 44:54 and 52:20.
For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual
youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19.
Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden,
EXCEPT BY RIGHT"
Qur'an 3:151
Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that
they joined companion with Allah...
Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred
in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and
then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get
resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day
Jihadists often say that they love death.
Qur'an (5:51)-"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the
Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever
amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them;
surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
Qur'an (5:80)-"You will see many of them befriending those who
disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for
them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall
they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.
Qur'an (3:28)-"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers
Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there
be help from Allah:except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard
yourselves from them..." This last part means that the Muslim is allowed
to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir
states that"believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but
never inwardly."
Qur'an (3:118)-"O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends
from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of
inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred
has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their bosoms
conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear
to you, if you will understand." This verse not only warns Muslims not to
take non-Muslims as friends.
Qur'an (9:23)-"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your
brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than
faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers"
Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not
accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the
9th Sura, which also advocates"slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find
them" .
Qur'an (53:29)-"Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message
and desire nothing but the life of this world."
Qur'an (3:85)-"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall
not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the
losers."
Qur'an (3:10)-"(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their
wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and
these it is who are the fuel of the fire." Those who do not believe in
Muhammad are but fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98).
Qur'an (7:44)-"The Companions of the Garden will call out to the
Companions of the Fire:"We have indeed found the promises of our Lord
to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?"They shall
say,"Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them:"The curse of Allah is
on the wrong-doers" Muslims in heaven will amuse themselves by looking
down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking them while they are being
tortured (see22:19-22.
Qur'an (1:5-7)-"Show us the straight path, The path of those whom
Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor
of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to
repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger"specifically refers to
Jews and"those who go astray"refers to Christians (seeBukhari
(12:749).
Remember the ultimate aim of Mohammed and devout Muslims is for
Islam to dominate the world. They aim to murder all the pagans and
atheists hence condemning their souls to hell, of courses they spare the
Christians because a murdered christain in defense of his/her faith
becomes heaven bound hence the devout Muslims are commanded to
humiliate Christians and have them pay the jizyah or convert or die.
Once a muslim renounces Islam they are commanded to behead the
apostate.

Death in the cause of Allah's will is encouraged, supported and promoted
as well as fully endorsed in Islam. No muslim can refute this, if (s)he
does this then (s)he contradicts and disowns the quran.
Let's look at some quran verses and one or two narratives from the
hadiths, sahih muslim and sahih burhari, 2 of the most respected and
authenticated sources in Islam.
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of
this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE
SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD"
Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and
their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they
fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him
in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the
Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then
rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement
supreme."
Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to
earn the pleasure of Allah..."
Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that
will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His
Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with
your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but
knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath
which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity:
that is indeed the Supreme Achievement."
This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including
verses 44:54 and 52:20.
For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual
youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19.
Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden,
EXCEPT BY RIGHT"
An important verse that is used by Muslims to not only justify their own
deaths, but that of other bystanders who might be believers as well.
Like we saw 2days ago when the Muslims in Paris killed a muslim police
officer in their quest to avenge their prophet. The end justifies the
means, with the goal being the defeat of the kafir, their submission and
finally the establishment of Islamic rule.
Qur'an 3:151
Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that
they joined companion with Allah...
Mohammed was the original terrorist.
Qur'an 8:89
And fight with them until there is no more filna(disorder, unbelief) and
religion should be only for Allah
This is just a little taste of the evil commands in the quran which
encourages persecutions, intolerance and prejudice.
Now From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred
in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and
then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get
resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day
Jihadists often say that they love death.
Muslim (20:4678) - During the battle of Uhud, Muhammad was desperate
to push men into battle. He promised paradise for those who would
martyr themselves, prompting a young man who was eating dates to
throw them away and rush to his death.
Muslim (20:4655) - A man asks Muhammad "which of men is the best?"
Muhammad replies that it is the man who is always ready for battle and
flies into it "seeking death at places where it can be
expected." (Tellingly perhaps, the next most saintly man in Islam is the
hermit who lives in isolation "sparing men from his mischief."
Muslim (20:4681) - "Surely, the gates of Paradise are under the
shadows of the swords." After hearing Muhammad say that martyrdom
leads to paradise, a young man pulls his sword and breaks the sheath
(indicating that he has no intention of returning) then flings himself
into battle until he is killed.
Muslim (20.4635) - "Nobody who enters Paradise will (ever like to)
return to this world even if he were offered everything on the surface
of the earth (as an inducement) except the martyr who will desire to
return to this world and be killed ten times for the sake of the great
honour that has been bestowed upon him."




this is the religion of "peace".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmGRshS0PAw

^^^

Wow, this gurl really means them Muslims o

MzNelly:
^^^

Wow, this gurl really means them Muslims o

its a battle if copy and paste

I wonder if they really read these stuffs themselves before copying and pasting it.

And do they really expect us to read these long boring copy and pastes

johnydon22:


its a battle if copy and paste

I wonder if they really read these stuffs themselves before copying and pasting it.

And do they really expect us to read these long boring copy and pastes

Lol, I actually read it.

And it's a bunch of Muslims who believe in the killing like their lives depended on it.

Being a while

MzNelly:


Lol, I actually read it.

And it's a bunch of Muslims who believe in the killing like their lives depended on it.

Being a while

Mehn am not a fan of long boring copy and paste... Albert Einstein said "If you cant explain it simply, then you dont understand it well enough.

A little straight to the point short post can inform and achieve more than these long post copied from websites..

Yeah dear, you missed me

But muslims should ask themselves. why is it in today's world that

"Islam is synonymous to terrorism" Something is wrong.

When ever you hear muslim, islam on the news listen carefully the word terrorist, terrorism, bombing, killing and etc is not far ..

someone once asked me..."If u are on a plane and a muslim guy shouts Allahu akbah, what will you do"

I'd be like "Oh shìt, am fücking dead"

johnydon22:


Mehn am not a fan of long boring copy and paste... Albert Einstein said "If you cant explain it simply, then you dont understand it well enough.

A little straight to the point short post can inform and achieve more than these long post copied from websites..

Yeah dear, you missed me

Wow, that makes a lotta sense

A little.

MzNelly:


Wow, that makes a lotta sense

A little.

Lol...you are beautiful shaa..just saw ur dp

johnydon22:


Lol...you are beautiful shaa..just saw ur dp

Thanks,

johnydon22:


its a battle if copy and paste

I wonder if they really read these stuffs themselves before copying and pasting it.

And do they really expect us to read these long boring copy and pastes

I copied the verses from Islamic and non-islamic sites. They are in the quran from cross checking at quran.com which is run by Muslims. I compile the verses some of which I know off heart same way I compile Christian verses. I read every word of my posts because i compile and write them, if I lift an artile off a site I always put references.

don't assume wrongly my friend.

MzNelly:


Lol, I actually read it.

And it's a bunch of Muslims who believe in the killing like their lives depended on it.

Being a while

Thanks for taking your time to read it.

I often keep my comments short but sometimes I like to paste the verses in large numbers to show the commands to fight and murder are littered everywhere in the quran and are not few isolated verses.


Have a nice week.

I dnt know much about the quran until i started reading ifeann posts.

Initially read her threads with an open mind and with an expectation that some of her statements will be debunked and shown as false .
During the discusions in those threads, I realised that in some very few cases she probably(not sure) adjusted the words in the quran based on her own personal understanding of that part. this I deduced when I read what muslims have to say on those verses. But in most cases , I have a strong feeling that she is right in her postulations on islam. Why do I think she is right? Cus those against her post have not been able to debunk her posts. They have attacked her personality, other religions and the world in general,defended their morality by saying others do those bad things too, but still have not used their scriptures to prove her wrong in her assumptions.

The same reactions here on nairaland is the same reaction I get when I ask my Muslim friends questions based on her post .

My alfa friend (who is now wary of discusing religion with me) is saying someone is giving me false quotes and stories on the internet. But he always change the discussion when I ask him to prove that such info is false.

dolphinheart:
I dnt know much about the quran until i started reading ifeann posts.

Initially read her threads with an open mind and with an expectation that some of her statements will be debunked and shown as false .
During the discusions in those threads, I realised that in some very few cases she probably(not sure) adjusted the words in the quran based on her own personal understanding of that part. this I deduced when I read what muslims have to say on those verses. But in most cases , I have a strong feeling that she is right in her postulations on islam. Why do I think she is right? Cus those against her post have not been able to debunk her posts. They have attacked her personality, other religions and the world in general,defended their morality by saying others do those bad things too, but still have not used their scriptures to prove her wrong in her assumptions.

The same reactions here on nairaland is the same reaction I get when I ask my Muslim friends questions based on her post .

My alfa friend (who is now wary of discusing religion with me) is saying someone is giving me false quotes and stories on the internet. But he always change the discussion when I ask him to prove that such info is false.

I am glad u picked one or two things from my posts.
Please don't discuss these verses exposing Islam with a muslim alfa/ imam/ sheik in person or alone with Muslims where your safety won't be guaranteed ,

Muslims become over sensitive when the truth about the villainy of their quran is brought to them by a "kaffir". Be careful.

The best way to understand Islam is how muslims treat non-muslims in islamic countries. While muslims can come to europe and distribute quran openly on the street, if a christian attempt distribute the bible in saudi arabia, iran, afghanistan etc, such a christian will be killed.

Muslims are free to propapagate islam in non-muslim countries, but if a christian attempt to preach christ in muslim nation, he can be killed or jailed.

Christians do free convert to islam in western countries, but if a muslim in saudi arabia, egypt, iran, yemen etc, leaves islam, he will be killed.

While many verses in the quran blasphem against basic christian doctrines (some verses even cursed jews and christians), any attempt at criticing mohammed or quran can lead to death, especially in muslim countries.

While muslims are allowed to migrate to non-muslims countries to have a better life and future, muslim countries do not accept or accomodate non- muslims or grant citizenship right to non-muslims. Muslim countries do not even permit immigration of fellow muslims to their countries.

So with all these points, an average non-muslim will have phobia for muslims and islam. Until islam reform and accept the fact that all man can\will never be muslims, muslims will keep having problems wherever they go.

johnydon22:


Lol...you are beautiful shaa..just saw ur dp

She is just there jor! You raised my expectation too high with this comment. Now I am some Mb short.

theAtheist101:


She is just there jor! You raised my expectation too high with this comment. Now I am some Mb short.

Beauty is subjective the viewer... Lol... sheey mb suppose finish na make mtn chop naa

johnydon22:


Beauty is subjective the viewer... Lol... sheey mb suppose finish na make mtn chop naa

I stopped using mtn, switched to glo -- being patriotic.

MzNelly:


Lol, I actually read it.

And it's a bunch of Muslims who believe in the killing like their lives depended on it.

Being a while

Perhaps, you need to take a little more time to review her posts and see that many nonsense she posted, lots of them are given answers. That will be proper if indeed you truly worship your god. I know there lots of Christians that have no clue what's in the bible. Should I compile bunch of extreme verses from Bibles and paste them?. You think i have time for that?. I am sure if i do that some Christians will try to give explanation for them. Common sense should always prevail. If ifean truly believes Christianity is the way, she should care less about Islam.

Truth always stands clear from falsehood. Ifeann is so in-secured. That's why she's here and there. Just click on her profile.

You can check these out.

Beware Of Christians (evangelism) And Their Use Of Deceptions
https://www.nairaland.com/2189813/beware-christians-evangelism-use-deceptions

Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian
https://www.nairaland.com/2153126/top-ten-signs-youre-fundamentalist


Muslims, Why Did You Fail To Probe This?
https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe#down

Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This?
https://www.nairaland.com/2257912/jesus-naive-said

Differences Between The One True God And The Islamic Allah
https://www.nairaland.com/2256249/differences-between-one-true-god

Islam's most powerful weapon the " Al Taqiyyah
https://www.nairaland.com/2172662/islams-most-powerful-weapon-al

Simple Questions
https://www.nairaland.com/2250628/simple-questions

Truth Not Tarqiyyah Is What Islam Preahces
https://www.nairaland.com/2259687/truth-not-tarqiyyah-what-islam

Jesus, son of man?
https://www.nairaland.com/2251469/jesus-son-man-read

Did Jesus Died For Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In
https://www.nairaland.com/2235053/did-jesus-died-sin-which

Islamic Allah's Messenger Claims Allah Wrote The Bible
https://www.nairaland.com/2239077/islamic-allahs-messenger-claims-allah

More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED)
https://www.nairaland.com/2252055/more-headache-trinitarians-non-christians-not

For Muslims Who Believe The Bible Is Corrupt
https://www.nairaland.com/2248120/muslims-believe-bible-corrupt

Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses
https://www.nairaland.com/2161012/lets-take-look-slavery-contained

Interesting Teachings You Can Learn From The Quran
https://www.nairaland.com/2246596/interesting-teachings-learn-quran

Do Qur'an Says Jesus Has Died?! Explanation Of The Word "Tawafii"
https://www.nairaland.com/2236722/quran-says-jesus-died-explanation

Radical Muslims Kill Over 100 Muslims At Mosques In Sanaa, ..what Else Is New
https://www.nairaland.com/2207449/radical-muslims-kill-over-100

Below, Bible was completely trashed.

Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible?
https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible

Most of these threads are opened by christians. Muslims also tackled them as they possibly could.


As for you, johnydon22, honestly, there is no need to try to convince anyone anymore. Even some kids today know that Western media, Jewish an christian islamophobia enterprise would do anything to whitewash.

Empiree:
Perhaps, you need to take a little more time to review her posts and see that many nonsense she posted, lots of them are given answers. That will be proper if indeed you truly worship your god. I know there lots of Christians that have no clue what's in the bible. Should I compile bunch of extreme verses from Bibles and paste them?. You think i have time for that?. I am sure if i do that some Christians will try to give explanation for them. Common sense should always prevail. If ifean truly believes Christianity is the way, she should care less about Islam.

Truth always stands clear from falsehood. Ifeann is so in-secured. That's why she's here and there. Just click on her profile.

You can check these out.

Beware Of Christians (evangelism) And Their Use Of Deceptions
https://www.nairaland.com/2189813/beware-christians-evangelism-use-deceptions

Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian
https://www.nairaland.com/2153126/top-ten-signs-youre-fundamentalist


Muslims, Why Did You Fail To Probe This?
https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe#down

Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This?
https://www.nairaland.com/2257912/jesus-naive-said

Differences Between The One True God And The Islamic Allah
https://www.nairaland.com/2256249/differences-between-one-true-god

Islam's most powerful weapon the " Al Taqiyyah
https://www.nairaland.com/2172662/islams-most-powerful-weapon-al

Simple Questions
https://www.nairaland.com/2250628/simple-questions

Truth Not Tarqiyyah Is What Islam Preahces
https://www.nairaland.com/2259687/truth-not-tarqiyyah-what-islam

Jesus, son of man?
https://www.nairaland.com/2251469/jesus-son-man-read

Did Jesus Died For Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In
https://www.nairaland.com/2235053/did-jesus-died-sin-which

Islamic Allah's Messenger Claims Allah Wrote The Bible
https://www.nairaland.com/2239077/islamic-allahs-messenger-claims-allah

More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED)
https://www.nairaland.com/2252055/more-headache-trinitarians-non-christians-not

For Muslims Who Believe The Bible Is Corrupt
https://www.nairaland.com/2248120/muslims-believe-bible-corrupt

Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses
https://www.nairaland.com/2161012/lets-take-look-slavery-contained

Interesting Teachings You Can Learn From The Quran
https://www.nairaland.com/2246596/interesting-teachings-learn-quran

Do Qur'an Says Jesus Has Died?! Explanation Of The Word "Tawafii"
https://www.nairaland.com/2236722/quran-says-jesus-died-explanation

Radical Muslims Kill Over 100 Muslims At Mosques In Sanaa, ..what Else Is New
https://www.nairaland.com/2207449/radical-muslims-kill-over-100

Below, Bible was completely trashed.

Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible?
https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible

Most of these threads are opened by christians. Muslims also tackled them as they possibly could.


As for you, johnydon22, honestly, there is no need to try to convince anyone anymore. Even some kids today know that Western media, Jewish an christian islamophobia enterprise would do anything to whitewash.

@ Empiree, are you saying that all the quranic verses quoted are false or all taken out of context? The sooner you agree that Quran is essentially an anti-jewish and anti-christian hate-book, the better. This is a fact that is known to an average arab-muslim but are denied by African\Nigerian muslims.

Mohammed, in the quran, attacked and cursed christians in many verses and you are fully aware, unless you are ignorant or deliberately lying about that, that is not to say that there are no few verses that are pro-Jewish and pro-christian (and had been abrogated).

So you accusing christians that are pointing out the flaws in your religion is ridiculous because your quranic and mohammed started the 'bashing'. We are not bashing Islam but only pointing out the fact that mohammed is a false prophet, going by his deeds and actions (and the deeds of the first caliph, Abkr, which led to the first civil war bw the sunnis and the shia).

true2god:
@ Empire.e, are you saying that all the quranic verses quoted are false or all taken out of context? The sooner you agree that Quran is essentially an anti-jewish and anti-christian hate-book, the better. This is a fact that is known to an average arab-muslim but are denied by African\Nigerian muslims.

Mohammed, in the quran, attacked and cursed christians in many verses and you are fully aware, unless you are ignorant or deliberately lying about that, that is not to say that there are no few verses that are pro-Jewish and pro-christian (and had been abrogated).

So you accusing christians that are pointing out the flaws in your religion is ridiculous because your quranic and mohammed started the 'bashing'. We are not bashing Islam but only pointing out the fact that mohammed is a false prophet, going by his deeds and actions (and the deeds of the first caliph, Abkr, which led to the first civil war bw the sunnis and the shia).

^

true2god:

We are not bashing Islam but only pointing out the fact that mohammed is a false prophet,

^

Empiree:
I love mohammad

Even a mum loves his criminal son.

true2god:
@ Empiree, are you saying that all the quranic verses quoted are false or all taken out of context? The sooner you agree that Quran is essentially an anti-jewish and anti-christian hate-book, the better. This is a fact that is known to an average arab-muslim but are denied by African\Nigerian muslims.

Mohammed, in the quran, attacked and cursed christians in many verses and you are fully aware, unless you are ignorant or deliberately lying about that, that is not to say that there are no few verses that are pro-Jewish and pro-christian (and had been abrogated).

So you accusing christians that are pointing out the flaws in your religion is ridiculous because your quranic and mohammed started the 'bashing'. We are not bashing Islam but only pointing out the fact that mohammed is a false prophet, going by his deeds and actions (and the deeds of the first caliph, Abkr, which led to the first civil war bw the sunnis and the shia).

And I was hoping he was gonna prove you wrong! Well.... Ill wait for a while to see if there reply to ur post is good enough and contains enough prove for me to stop thinking that you are right

MzNelly:
^^^

Wow, this gurl really means them Muslims o

It is an argument style called the 'gish gallop'.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

It basically involves overloading the debating opponent with petty arguments, half truths, outright lies and lots of filler, to overwhelm his ability to defend against your argument, unless he has hours to waste (who does?). Ifeann uses that style a lot; knowing that she cannot convince anyone in a simple forthright exchange of ideas. If I answer 10 or 20 or 30 of her allegations on ten pages of thread, she will still point to the dozen that I may have omitted. If I answer all, she will still start again with the same set from the beginning until I exit from the argument, then she will claim victory to the applause of her minion.

Most xtian evangelicals (who tend to conflate big grammar with correctness) use the gish gallop technique. Even their pastors do it to the flock, throwing pages of incorrectly used jargoned grammar interspersed with calls for prayers, songs and speaking in tongues, in rapid succession; until their brains are so exhausted with confusion, that they just lose the ability of critical analysis (guess that's why they are then called sheep). When you expose yourself to this behaviour often enough, you become totally gullible due to mental laziness; a sheeple; so to speak. The 'pastor' can then fleece you comfortably. Lol.

Abuamam:


It is an argument style called the 'gish gallop'.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

It basically involves overloading the debating opponent with petty arguments, half truths, outright lies and lots of filler, to overwhelm his ability to defend against your argument, unless he has hours to waste (who does?). Ifeann uses that style a lot; knowing that she cannot convince anyone in a simple forthright exchange of ideas. If I answer 10 or 20 or 30 of her allegations on ten pages of thread, she will still point to the dozen that I may have omitted. If I answer all, she will still start again with the same set from the beginning until I exit from the argument, then she will claim victory to the applause of her minion.

Most xtian evangelicals (who tend to conflate big grammar with correctness) use the gish gallop technique. Even their pastors do it to the flock, throwing pages of incorrectly used jargoned grammar interspersed with calls for prayers, songs and speaking in tongues, in rapid succession; until their brains are so exhausted with confusion, that they just lose the ability of critical analysis (guess that's why they are then called sheep). When you expose yourself to this behaviour often enough, you become totally gullible due to mental laziness; a sheeple; so to speak. The 'pastor' can then fleece you comfortably. Lol.

Wow... I usually create a topic with a singular issue for discussion and quote a few verses and ask u Muslims to explain. Now u claim I use jargon terms and gish gallop. Lol. Wow.

Ok let me ask u a series of very simple yes or no questions. No gish gallop or whatever. Very elementary questions.

Did Mohammed sleep with a child, 9 year old
Aisha?YES/NO
Did he kill people?YES/NO
Did Mohammed command his followers to fight people based on their beliefs?YES/NO
Did he sleep with slaves?YES/NO
Did he command his followers to sleep with captives their right hand possess?YES/NO
Did Mohammed marry more wives than Islamic Allah permits Muslims?YES/NO
Did he perform any miracles?YES/NO
Did he contradict himself?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW
Did he permit the murder of his critics?YES/NO
Did herapewomen during after war, which he
called war booty?{I.e Slave-girls as sexual property}YES/NO
Did he permit Muslims to beat their wives? {Even if but lightly}YES/NO
Did he ask people to drink camel piss for good health?YES, HEALTHY/NO, HE DIDN'T
Did Mohammed say apostates should be killed?YES & I CONCUR / YES, BUT I DON'T CONCUR / NO, HE COULDN'T HAVE!


Answer as u choose.

Abuamam:


It is an argument style called the 'gish gallop'.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

It basically involves overloading the debating opponent with petty arguments, half truths, outright lies and lots of filler, to overwhelm his ability to defend against your argument, unless he has hours to waste (who does?). Ifeann uses that style a lot; knowing that she cannot convince anyone in a simple forthright exchange of ideas. If I answer 10 or 20 or 30 of her allegations on ten pages of thread, she will still point to the dozen that I may have omitted. If I answer all, she will still start again with the same set from the beginning until I exit from the argument, then she will claim victory to the applause of her minion.

Most xtian evangelicals (who tend to conflate big grammar with correctness) use the gish gallop technique. Even their pastors do it to the flock, throwing pages of incorrectly used jargoned grammar interspersed with calls for prayers, songs and speaking in tongues, in rapid succession; until their brains are so exhausted with confusion, that they just lose the ability of critical analysis (guess that's why they are then called sheep). When you expose yourself to this behaviour often enough, you become totally gullible due to mental laziness; a sheeple; so to speak. The 'pastor' can then fleece you comfortably. Lol.

Wow Abuamam... I usually create a topic with a singular issue for discussion and quote a few verses and ask u Muslims to explain. Now u claim I use jargon terms and gish gallop. Lol. Wow.

Ok let me ask u a series of very simple yes or no questions. No gish gallop or whatever. Very elementary questions.

Did Mohammed sleep with a child, 9 year old
Aisha?YES/NO
Did he kill people?YES/NO
Did Mohammed command his followers to fight people based on their beliefs?YES/NO
Did he sleep with slaves?YES/NO
Did he command his followers to sleep with captives their right hand possess?YES/NO
Did Mohammed marry more wives than Islamic Allah permits Muslims?YES/NO
Did he perform any miracles?YES/NO
Did he contradict himself?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW
Did he permit the murder of his critics?YES/NO
Did herapewomen during after war, which he
called war booty?{I.e Slave-girls as sexual property}YES/NO
Did he permit Muslims to beat their wives? {Even if but lightly}YES/NO
Did he ask people to drink camel piss for good health?YES, HEALTHY/NO, HE DIDN'T
Did Mohammed say apostates should be killed?YES & I CONCUR / YES, BUT I DON'T CONCUR / NO, HE COULDN'T HAVE!


Answer as u choose.


Cc MzNelly

Op, you are scared of being called terrorist ehn!

Well, we want a peaceful world where the next door neighbour ain't trying to blow me up to smithering because I have a contrary view to his/her religion.

Is that too much to ask?

Abuamam, we're waiting.
*grabs popcorn*

So Abuamam is suddenly taking away just like Enoch and Elijah?

MzNelly:
Abuamam, we're waiting.
*grabs popcorn*

Waiting for what? I have no interest in engaging her in her foolishness. I merely pointed out her technique in the op.

If you are referring to her set of 'questions', this is the 3rd time (to my knowledge) that she is posting them on NL alone. We have answered them before. I refuse to continue this dumb game.