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Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Edwardhead(m): 11:17am On Apr 20, 2015 |
You don't have to define me through Boko Haram, Al Qaeda or ISIS just because I am a Muslim. Like many millions innocent Muslims across the globe, I should not be held responsible for the stupid actions of few Muslims or those who pretend to the world to be Muslims whereas in their hearts is that of Kufar (unbelievers, evil doers). I can only held responsible for my own action, not theirs. Muslims like Christians, Hindus, Baha'i, Sikhs, Buddhists etc have good and bad people. The bad few Muslims that go about shedding innocents blood give the haters of Islam the opportunity to haul damaging propaganda against the religion and it adherents. The propaganda only institutionalized another dimension of terrorism. Terrorizing peace loving Muslims just because Islam is their religion. When Muslims are killed the media hardly mention the incidence but when adherents of other religion are killed by disgruntled Muslims the media take to their hypes, reporting and repeating the events every second. I read today in the media that members of ISIS lined up some blindfolded Ethiopian Christians at the beach and shot them point blank. The atrocities of ISIS is meted not only to the Christians but every Muslim that do not tread their line of belief or are seen as suspect or threat. In fact, more Muslims have been displaced and killed by this group than any faithfuls. The way the Western media report the crime of Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, ISIS only helped in demonizing Islam and instigating hatred toward the Muslim population. This, to me, is a subtle terrorism against the Muslim world. This is unfair, absolute injustice. In fact, to be candid, this is man inhumanity to man. Every religion have adherents that engage in terrorism. At every point on the globe live people that terrorize others. Therefore, terrorism should not be taken or seen as synonymous with Islam or Muslims. What do you call that of Myanmar where thousands of Rohingya Muslims were murdered and others were driven out of their ancestral homes by the dominant Buddhist population. Was Lord Buddha, the founder of the faith a terrorist. No, he wasn't. But today, the people that profess the faith are far different from the founder. The world hardly know that Rohingya Muslims were driven to the sea to drown by the Buddhists yet the world looked away. This is double standard, injustice and inhumanity. Have we forgotten so soon when Bosnia Muslims were slaughtered in their thousands by Serbian force in the presence of NATO force. What do you call that? Islam never promote terrorism. Terrorism is not a religion thing but political. If terrorism is to be taken on the basis of religion then every religion is not free from it. In conclusion, the media, whether print or electronic, especially the Western media should report every events as they actually happened. Investigative journalism should be embrace. Islam and Muslims are not the problem of human race, the problem are those who spread propaganda to discredit Muslims in order to hide their involvement in terrorism. Lateef K. Salami source: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10206415690700699&id=1521453825&refid=7&_ft_=qid.6139749291270627788%3Amf_story_key.1363009028311069999 |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Ifeann(f): 11:37am On Apr 20, 2015 |
Edwardhead: People often wonder why a lot of Muslim riots and protests occur after Friday prayers and why people like jihad john, Osama and other terrorists are devout mosque attending Muslims. Most moderate Muslims will use AL TAQIYYA or ignorance and quote this non-compulsion of religion verse: Qu'ran2: 256 Sahih International "There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." But they refuse to mention the other verses which compels their terrible religion on others. Remember the quran is a book that is filled with contractions and abrogations and even commands for Muslims to lie and deceive infidels eg Kitman and al Taqiyya.. Here is a little sample of the over 100 quran verses Islamic terrorists use to justify their acts of terror as commanded by Mohammed with total disregard for the non-complusion of religion earlier stated ; Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Qur’an 9:28—O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. Qur’an 9:30—The Jews call Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Qur’an 9:31—They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). Qur’an 9:32—Fain would they extinguish Allah’s Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). Qur’an 9:33—It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to prevail it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other. Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them. Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain. Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness. Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost. Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves. "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." (Bukhari, Book 83 Number 17) Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.” Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims.” Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.” Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.” Sahih al-Bukhari 6922—Allah’s Messenger said, “If anyone changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.” Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD" Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to earn the pleasure of Allah..." Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement." This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad. The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including verses 44:54 and 52:20. For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19. Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, EXCEPT BY RIGHT" Qur'an 3:151 Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companion with Allah... Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day Jihadists often say that they love death. Qur'an (5:51)-"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Qur'an (5:80)-"You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell. Qur'an (3:28)-"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that"believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly." Qur'an (3:118)-"O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their bosoms conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand." This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends. Qur'an (9:23)-"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers" Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates"slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them" . Qur'an (53:29)-"Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world." Qur'an (3:85)-"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers." Qur'an (3:10)-"(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire." Those who do not believe in Muhammad are but fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98). Qur'an (7:44)-"The Companions of the Garden will call out to the Companions of the Fire:"We have indeed found the promises of our Lord to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?"They shall say,"Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them:"The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers" Muslims in heaven will amuse themselves by looking down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking them while they are being tortured (see22:19-22. Qur'an (1:5-7)-"Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger"specifically refers to Jews and"those who go astray"refers to Christians (seeBukhari (12:749). Remember the ultimate aim of Mohammed and devout Muslims is for Islam to dominate the world. They aim to murder all the pagans and atheists hence condemning their souls to hell, of courses they spare the Christians because a murdered christain in defense of his/her faith becomes heaven bound hence the devout Muslims are commanded to humiliate Christians and have them pay the jizyah or convert or die. Once a muslim renounces Islam they are commanded to behead the apostate. Death in the cause of Allah's will is encouraged, supported and promoted as well as fully endorsed in Islam. No muslim can refute this, if (s)he does this then (s)he contradicts and disowns the quran. Let's look at some quran verses and one or two narratives from the hadiths, sahih muslim and sahih burhari, 2 of the most respected and authenticated sources in Islam. The Qur'an: Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD" Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to earn the pleasure of Allah..." Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement." This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad. The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including verses 44:54 and 52:20. For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19. Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, EXCEPT BY RIGHT" An important verse that is used by Muslims to not only justify their own deaths, but that of other bystanders who might be believers as well. Like we saw 2days ago when the Muslims in Paris killed a muslim police officer in their quest to avenge their prophet. The end justifies the means, with the goal being the defeat of the kafir, their submission and finally the establishment of Islamic rule. Qur'an 3:151 Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companion with Allah... Mohammed was the original terrorist. Qur'an 8:89 And fight with them until there is no more filna(disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah This is just a little taste of the evil commands in the quran which encourages persecutions, intolerance and prejudice. Now From the Hadith: Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day Jihadists often say that they love death. Muslim (20:4678) - During the battle of Uhud, Muhammad was desperate to push men into battle. He promised paradise for those who would martyr themselves, prompting a young man who was eating dates to throw them away and rush to his death. Muslim (20:4655) - A man asks Muhammad "which of men is the best?" Muhammad replies that it is the man who is always ready for battle and flies into it "seeking death at places where it can be expected." (Tellingly perhaps, the next most saintly man in Islam is the hermit who lives in isolation "sparing men from his mischief." Muslim (20:4681) - "Surely, the gates of Paradise are under the shadows of the swords." After hearing Muhammad say that martyrdom leads to paradise, a young man pulls his sword and breaks the sheath (indicating that he has no intention of returning) then flings himself into battle until he is killed. Muslim (20.4635) - "Nobody who enters Paradise will (ever like to) return to this world even if he were offered everything on the surface of the earth (as an inducement) except the martyr who will desire to return to this world and be killed ten times for the sake of the great honour that has been bestowed upon him." this is the religion of "peace". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmGRshS0PAw 2 Likes |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Nobody: 12:09pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
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Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by johnydon22(m): 12:17pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
MzNelly: its a battle if copy and paste I wonder if they really read these stuffs themselves before copying and pasting it. And do they really expect us to read these long boring copy and pastes 2 Likes |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Nobody: 12:19pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
johnydon22: Lol, I actually read it. And it's a bunch of Muslims who believe in the killing like their lives depended on it. Being a while |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by johnydon22(m): 12:24pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
MzNelly: Mehn am not a fan of long boring copy and paste... Albert Einstein said "If you cant explain it simply, then you dont understand it well enough. A little straight to the point short post can inform and achieve more than these long post copied from websites.. Yeah dear, you missed me |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by johnydon22(m): 12:29pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
But muslims should ask themselves. why is it in today's world that "Islam is synonymous to terrorism" Something is wrong. When ever you hear muslim, islam on the news listen carefully the word terrorist, terrorism, bombing, killing and etc is not far .. someone once asked me..."If u are on a plane and a muslim guy shouts Allahu akbah, what will you do" I'd be like "Oh shìt, am fücking dead" 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Nobody: 12:29pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
johnydon22: Wow, that makes a lotta sense A little. |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by johnydon22(m): 12:31pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
MzNelly: Lol...you are beautiful shaa..just saw ur dp |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Nobody: 12:38pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
johnydon22: Thanks, |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Ifeann(f): 1:23pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
johnydon22: I copied the verses from Islamic and non-islamic sites. They are in the quran from cross checking at quran.com which is run by Muslims. I compile the verses some of which I know off heart same way I compile Christian verses. I read every word of my posts because i compile and write them, if I lift an artile off a site I always put references. don't assume wrongly my friend. |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Ifeann(f): 1:25pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
MzNelly: Thanks for taking your time to read it. I often keep my comments short but sometimes I like to paste the verses in large numbers to show the commands to fight and murder are littered everywhere in the quran and are not few isolated verses. Have a nice week. 1 Like |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by dolphinheart(m): 2:14pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
I dnt know much about the quran until i started reading ifeann posts. Initially read her threads with an open mind and with an expectation that some of her statements will be debunked and shown as false . During the discusions in those threads, I realised that in some very few cases she probably(not sure) adjusted the words in the quran based on her own personal understanding of that part. this I deduced when I read what muslims have to say on those verses. But in most cases , I have a strong feeling that she is right in her postulations on islam. Why do I think she is right? Cus those against her post have not been able to debunk her posts. They have attacked her personality, other religions and the world in general,defended their morality by saying others do those bad things too, but still have not used their scriptures to prove her wrong in her assumptions. The same reactions here on nairaland is the same reaction I get when I ask my Muslim friends questions based on her post . My alfa friend (who is now wary of discusing religion with me) is saying someone is giving me false quotes and stories on the internet. But he always change the discussion when I ask him to prove that such info is false. |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Ifeann(f): 5:15pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
dolphinheart: I am glad u picked one or two things from my posts. Please don't discuss these verses exposing Islam with a muslim alfa/ imam/ sheik in person or alone with Muslims where your safety won't be guaranteed , Muslims become over sensitive when the truth about the villainy of their quran is brought to them by a "kaffir". Be careful. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by true2god: 7:19pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
The best way to understand Islam is how muslims treat non-muslims in islamic countries. While muslims can come to europe and distribute quran openly on the street, if a christian attempt distribute the bible in saudi arabia, iran, afghanistan etc, such a christian will be killed. Muslims are free to propapagate islam in non-muslim countries, but if a christian attempt to preach christ in muslim nation, he can be killed or jailed. Christians do free convert to islam in western countries, but if a muslim in saudi arabia, egypt, iran, yemen etc, leaves islam, he will be killed. While many verses in the quran blasphem against basic christian doctrines (some verses even cursed jews and christians), any attempt at criticing mohammed or quran can lead to death, especially in muslim countries. While muslims are allowed to migrate to non-muslims countries to have a better life and future, muslim countries do not accept or accomodate non- muslims or grant citizenship right to non-muslims. Muslim countries do not even permit immigration of fellow muslims to their countries. So with all these points, an average non-muslim will have phobia for muslims and islam. Until islam reform and accept the fact that all man can\will never be muslims, muslims will keep having problems wherever they go. 3 Likes |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Nobody: 10:04pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
johnydon22: She is just there jor! You raised my expectation too high with this comment. Now I am some Mb short. |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by johnydon22(m): 10:09pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
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Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Nobody: 11:53pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
johnydon22: I stopped using mtn, switched to glo -- being patriotic. |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Empiree: 12:11am On Apr 21, 2015 |
MzNelly:Perhaps, you need to take a little more time to review her posts and see that many nonsense she posted, lots of them are given answers. That will be proper if indeed you truly worship your god. I know there lots of Christians that have no clue what's in the bible. Should I compile bunch of extreme verses from Bibles and paste them?. You think i have time for that?. I am sure if i do that some Christians will try to give explanation for them. Common sense should always prevail. If ifean truly believes Christianity is the way, she should care less about Islam. Truth always stands clear from falsehood. Ifeann is so in-secured. That's why she's here and there. Just click on her profile. You can check these out. Beware Of Christians (evangelism) And Their Use Of Deceptions https://www.nairaland.com/2189813/beware-christians-evangelism-use-deceptions Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian https://www.nairaland.com/2153126/top-ten-signs-youre-fundamentalist Muslims, Why Did You Fail To Probe This? https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe#down Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? https://www.nairaland.com/2257912/jesus-naive-said Differences Between The One True God And The Islamic Allah https://www.nairaland.com/2256249/differences-between-one-true-god Islam's most powerful weapon the " Al Taqiyyah https://www.nairaland.com/2172662/islams-most-powerful-weapon-al Simple Questions https://www.nairaland.com/2250628/simple-questions Truth Not Tarqiyyah Is What Islam Preahces https://www.nairaland.com/2259687/truth-not-tarqiyyah-what-islam Jesus, son of man? https://www.nairaland.com/2251469/jesus-son-man-read Did Jesus Died For Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In https://www.nairaland.com/2235053/did-jesus-died-sin-which Islamic Allah's Messenger Claims Allah Wrote The Bible https://www.nairaland.com/2239077/islamic-allahs-messenger-claims-allah More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) https://www.nairaland.com/2252055/more-headache-trinitarians-non-christians-not For Muslims Who Believe The Bible Is Corrupt https://www.nairaland.com/2248120/muslims-believe-bible-corrupt Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses https://www.nairaland.com/2161012/lets-take-look-slavery-contained Interesting Teachings You Can Learn From The Quran https://www.nairaland.com/2246596/interesting-teachings-learn-quran Do Qur'an Says Jesus Has Died?! Explanation Of The Word "Tawafii" https://www.nairaland.com/2236722/quran-says-jesus-died-explanation Radical Muslims Kill Over 100 Muslims At Mosques In Sanaa, ..what Else Is New https://www.nairaland.com/2207449/radical-muslims-kill-over-100 Below, Bible was completely trashed. Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible Most of these threads are opened by christians. Muslims also tackled them as they possibly could. As for you, johnydon22, honestly, there is no need to try to convince anyone anymore. Even some kids today know that Western media, Jewish an christian islamophobia enterprise would do anything to whitewash. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by true2god: 6:00am On Apr 21, 2015 |
Empiree:@ Empiree, are you saying that all the quranic verses quoted are false or all taken out of context? The sooner you agree that Quran is essentially an anti-jewish and anti-christian hate-book, the better. This is a fact that is known to an average arab-muslim but are denied by African\Nigerian muslims. Mohammed, in the quran, attacked and cursed christians in many verses and you are fully aware, unless you are ignorant or deliberately lying about that, that is not to say that there are no few verses that are pro-Jewish and pro-christian (and had been abrogated). So you accusing christians that are pointing out the flaws in your religion is ridiculous because your quranic and mohammed started the 'bashing'. We are not bashing Islam but only pointing out the fact that mohammed is a false prophet, going by his deeds and actions (and the deeds of the first caliph, Abkr, which led to the first civil war bw the sunnis and the shia). |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Empiree: 6:16am On Apr 21, 2015 |
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Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Empiree: 6:19am On Apr 21, 2015 |
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Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by true2god: 6:52am On Apr 21, 2015 |
Empiree:Even a mum loves his criminal son. 1 Like |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by dolphinheart(m): 3:02pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
true2god: And I was hoping he was gonna prove you wrong! Well.... Ill wait for a while to see if there reply to ur post is good enough and contains enough prove for me to stop thinking that you are right |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Nobody: 3:42pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
MzNelly: It is an argument style called the 'gish gallop'. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop It basically involves overloading the debating opponent with petty arguments, half truths, outright lies and lots of filler, to overwhelm his ability to defend against your argument, unless he has hours to waste (who does?). Ifeann uses that style a lot; knowing that she cannot convince anyone in a simple forthright exchange of ideas. If I answer 10 or 20 or 30 of her allegations on ten pages of thread, she will still point to the dozen that I may have omitted. If I answer all, she will still start again with the same set from the beginning until I exit from the argument, then she will claim victory to the applause of her minion. Most xtian evangelicals (who tend to conflate big grammar with correctness) use the gish gallop technique. Even their pastors do it to the flock, throwing pages of incorrectly used jargoned grammar interspersed with calls for prayers, songs and speaking in tongues, in rapid succession; until their brains are so exhausted with confusion, that they just lose the ability of critical analysis (guess that's why they are then called sheep). When you expose yourself to this behaviour often enough, you become totally gullible due to mental laziness; a sheeple; so to speak. The 'pastor' can then fleece you comfortably. Lol. 1 Like |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Ifeann(f): 4:43pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
Abuamam: Wow... I usually create a topic with a singular issue for discussion and quote a few verses and ask u Muslims to explain. Now u claim I use jargon terms and gish gallop. Lol. Wow. Ok let me ask u a series of very simple yes or no questions. No gish gallop or whatever. Very elementary questions. Did Mohammed sleep with a child, 9 year old Aisha?YES/NO Did he kill people?YES/NO Did Mohammed command his followers to fight people based on their beliefs?YES/NO Did he sleep with slaves?YES/NO Did he command his followers to sleep with captives their right hand possess?YES/NO Did Mohammed marry more wives than Islamic Allah permits Muslims?YES/NO Did he perform any miracles?YES/NO Did he contradict himself?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW Did he permit the murder of his critics?YES/NO Did herapewomen during after war, which he called war booty?{I.e Slave-girls as sexual property}YES/NO Did he permit Muslims to beat their wives? {Even if but lightly}YES/NO Did he ask people to drink camel piss for good health?YES, HEALTHY/NO, HE DIDN'T Did Mohammed say apostates should be killed?YES & I CONCUR / YES, BUT I DON'T CONCUR / NO, HE COULDN'T HAVE! Answer as u choose. |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Ifeann(f): 4:44pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
Abuamam: Wow Abuamam... I usually create a topic with a singular issue for discussion and quote a few verses and ask u Muslims to explain. Now u claim I use jargon terms and gish gallop. Lol. Wow. Ok let me ask u a series of very simple yes or no questions. No gish gallop or whatever. Very elementary questions. Did Mohammed sleep with a child, 9 year old Aisha?YES/NO Did he kill people?YES/NO Did Mohammed command his followers to fight people based on their beliefs?YES/NO Did he sleep with slaves?YES/NO Did he command his followers to sleep with captives their right hand possess?YES/NO Did Mohammed marry more wives than Islamic Allah permits Muslims?YES/NO Did he perform any miracles?YES/NO Did he contradict himself?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW Did he permit the murder of his critics?YES/NO Did herapewomen during after war, which he called war booty?{I.e Slave-girls as sexual property}YES/NO Did he permit Muslims to beat their wives? {Even if but lightly}YES/NO Did he ask people to drink camel piss for good health?YES, HEALTHY/NO, HE DIDN'T Did Mohammed say apostates should be killed?YES & I CONCUR / YES, BUT I DON'T CONCUR / NO, HE COULDN'T HAVE! Answer as u choose. Cc MzNelly |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Maamin(m): 4:52pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
Op, you are scared of being called terrorist ehn! Well, we want a peaceful world where the next door neighbour ain't trying to blow me up to smithering because I have a contrary view to his/her religion. Is that too much to ask? |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by channelz: 5:23pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
Abuamam: |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Nobody: 5:25pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
Abuamam, we're waiting. *grabs popcorn* |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Maamin(m): 5:40pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
So Abuamam is suddenly taking away just like Enoch and Elijah? |
Re: Being A Muslim Should Not Make Me A Terrorist by Nobody: 5:50pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
MzNelly: Waiting for what? I have no interest in engaging her in her foolishness. I merely pointed out her technique in the op. If you are referring to her set of 'questions', this is the 3rd time (to my knowledge) that she is posting them on NL alone. We have answered them before. I refuse to continue this dumb game. 2 Likes |
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