Ben Bruce and Dino Melaye may need our support and mass protests to fulfil these promises.

Will you join in the protests? Lukewarm noisemakers!

a very nice topic to discusss

hoping to learn...........

barcanista:
@OP: The Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission determines the remuneration of Public office holders EXCEPT the Judiciary. However, the commission is guided by law of the Parliament (NAsS). The allocation cannot be modified or reviewed by the President except the law establishing it is amended by members of National Assembly. In other words, they still have the key. The best a President can do is to persuade members of NASS to amend the law guiding RMAFC. Otherwise, he can only make empty rant. He can't even change what his VP, Ministers, SAs, SSAs or even himself earn. He can only decide to forfeit a percentage of his income. As for the NASS, I bet you that any bill to amend the law guiding RMAFC will be killed upon arrival.

first of all, the constitution super cedes any National Assembly act!! . . . . . . .

section 70, paragraph 32(d) of the 1999 constitution states;

"A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall receive such salary and other allowances as Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission may determine"

. . . . . . . . .REVENUE MOBILISATION, ALLOCATION AND FISCAL COMMISSION ACT

PART II

Powers and functions of Commission

6. Powers of the Commission

(d) determine the remuneration appropriate to the holders of the offices as speci-
fied in Parts A and B of the First Schedule to this Act;

SCHEDULES

FIRST SCHEDULE
[Section 6 (1) (d)]

PART A

Offices

President, the Vice-President, Chief Justice of Nigeria, Justice of the Supreme Court,
President of the Court of Appeal, Justice of the Court of Appeal, Chief Judge of the Federal
High Court, Judge of the Federal High Court, Judge of the Federal High Court in the Federal
Capital Territory, Grand Kadi and Kadi of the Sharai Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital
Territory, President and Judge of the Customary Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Ter-
ritory, Inspector-General of Police, the Auditor-General of the Federation and the Chairman
and members of the following executive bodies, namely, the Code of Conduct Bureau, the
Federal Civil Service Commission, the National Electoral Commission, the Federal Judicial
Service Commission, the National Population Commission, the Revenue Mobilisation, Allo-
cation and Fiscal Commission, the Nigeria Police Council and the Public Complaints Com-
mission.

PART B

Offices

Governor, Chief Judge of a State and Judge of the High Court of a State, Grand Kadi and
Kaid of the Sharia Court of Appeal of a State, President and Judge of the Customary Court of
Appeal of a State, the Auditor-General of a State, Auditor-General of the Local Government
Councils of a State and Chairmen and members of the following bodies, that is to say, the
State Civil Service Commission, the State Judicial Service Commission and the State Local
Government Service Commission.
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torkaka:

first of all, the constitution super cedes any National Assembly act!! . . . . . . .
section 70, paragraph 32(d) of the 1999 constitution states;
"A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall receive such salary and other allowances as Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission may determine"
. . . . . . . . .REVENUE MOBILISATION, ALLOCATION AND FISCAL COMMISSION ACT
PART II
Powers and functions of Commission
6. Powers of the Commission
(d) determine the remuneration appropriate to the holders of the offices as speci-
fied in Parts A and B of the First Schedule to this Act;
SCHEDULES
FIRST SCHEDULE
[Section 6 (1) (d)]
PART A
Offices
President, the Vice-President, Chief Justice of Nigeria, Justice of the Supreme Court,
President of the Court of Appeal, Justice of the Court of Appeal, Chief Judge of the Federal
High Court, Judge of the Federal High Court, Judge of the Federal High Court in the Federal
Capital Territory, Grand Kadi and Kadi of the Sharai Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital
Territory, President and Judge of the Customary Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Ter-
ritory, Inspector-General of Police, the Auditor-General of the Federation and the Chairman
and members of the following executive bodies, namely, the Code of Conduct Bureau, the
Federal Civil Service Commission, the National Electoral Commission, the Federal Judicial
Service Commission, the National Population Commission, the Revenue Mobilisation, Allo-
cation and Fiscal Commission, the Nigeria Police Council and the Public Complaints Com-
mission.
PART B
Offices
Governor, Chief Judge of a State and Judge of the High Court of a State, Grand Kadi and
Kaid of the Sharia Court of Appeal of a State, President and Judge of the Customary Court of
Appeal of a State, the Auditor-General of a State, Auditor-General of the Local Government
Councils of a State and Chairmen and members of the following bodies, that is to say, the
State Civil Service Commission, the State Judicial Service Commission and the State Local
Government Service Commission.
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O boy don't be deceived, it's all the same thing, RMAFC fixes the legislators pay IN LINE WITH THE NASS guidelines, so technically, the legislators fix their pay by proxy

TRIBALSTOOGE:
only constitutional power is the truth .






rivers of blood has been shed .



enough of this antics of unworkable place call nigga-area ,


it is declared desolate ,non functional .




back to my mama land ,keep your father land created by lord lugard .



lower niger congress i am yearning for you .



give us referendum now ,i command .

lolz u reach this side my Igbo guy ?


I beluev u, I reserve my comment Ooo, b4 ur fellow kill me with comment, bt tat lower Niger stuff so , hmmmm, u sure say e go work ?

jst dey hustle for SE republic me go jst take my People Down south omo I go cum call am Niger Delta republic Ooo, our states go cum include Edo, Delta, Rivers, Cross Rivers, Akwa ibom, capital PH, thou am from warri bt PH is our capital.. if u say lower Niger , e Go hard u Ooo, cous most of my SS nor go gree , dem go cum betray una again bt well all need Niger delta Republic... any SS in d house


tired of this country, then stupid Yoruba can form alliance with Hausa if they want,

Baawaa:
The Lawmakers

The masses also have to be mobilised to stop this madness. The country is in a mess why should a legislator be paid such a huge amount. It does not happen in advance countries. Why! whyii why!!!!. This is an indirect corruption.

barcanista:
@OP: The Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission determines the remuneration of Public office holders EXCEPT the Judiciary. However, the commission is guided by law of the Parliament (NAsS). The allocation cannot be modified or reviewed by the President except the law establishing it is amended by members of National Assembly. In other words, they still have the key. The best a President can do is to persuade members of NASS to amend the law guiding RMAFC. Otherwise, he can only make empty rant. He can't even change what his VP, Ministers, SAs, SSAs or even himself earn. He can only decide to forfeit a percentage of his income. As for the NASS, I bet you that any bill to amend the law guiding RMAFC will be killed upon arrival.

I absolutely agree with you. And they'll keep doing anything and everything to get to that position..

Myself2:


O boy don't be deceived, it's all the same thing, RMAFC fixes the legislators pay IN LINE WITH THE NASS guidelines, so technically, the legislators fix their pay by proxy

. . . . . . .the constitution does not say RMAFC should fix the salaries in line with NASS guidelines . . . . . . . . .the guideline you refer to is an 'act' that any good constitutional lawyer will trash out

AhmedMustapha:

It clearly states this- " A member of the Senate or of the
House of Representatives shall receive
such salary and other allowances as
Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and
Fiscal Commission may determine"

but February this year, the senators 'AGREED' to cut their budget by 25%
www.nairaland.com/2167923/legislators-agree-belt-tightening-cut-nassemblys

That was a moral decision. It has NO legal backing. ONLY the RMAFC UNILATERALLY determines the salaries and allowances of these thieves.

But the lawmakers can negatively influence the RMAFC: they approve the appointment of the Chairman, and he/she is appointed by the President.

torkaka:


first of all, the constitution super cedes any National Assembly act!! . . . . . . .

section 70, paragraph 32(d) of the 1999 constitution states;

"A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall receive such salary and other allowances as Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission may determine"

. . . . . . . . .REVENUE MOBILISATION, ALLOCATION AND FISCAL COMMISSION ACT

PART II

Powers and functions of Commission

6. Powers of the Commission

(d) determine the remuneration appropriate to the holders of the offices as speci-
fied in Parts A and B of the First Schedule to this Act;

SCHEDULES

FIRST SCHEDULE
[Section 6 (1) (d)]

PART A

Offices

President, the Vice-President, Chief Justice of Nigeria, Justice of the Supreme Court,
President of the Court of Appeal, Justice of the Court of Appeal, Chief Judge of the Federal
High Court, Judge of the Federal High Court, Judge of the Federal High Court in the Federal
Capital Territory, Grand Kadi and Kadi of the Sharai Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital
Territory, President and Judge of the Customary Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Ter-
ritory, Inspector-General of Police, the Auditor-General of the Federation and the Chairman
and members of the following executive bodies, namely, the Code of Conduct Bureau, the
Federal Civil Service Commission, the National Electoral Commission, the Federal Judicial
Service Commission, the National Population Commission, the Revenue Mobilisation, Allo-
cation and Fiscal Commission, the Nigeria Police Council and the Public Complaints Com-
mission.

PART B

Offices

Governor, Chief Judge of a State and Judge of the High Court of a State, Grand Kadi and
Kaid of the Sharia Court of Appeal of a State, President and Judge of the Customary Court of
Appeal of a State, the Auditor-General of a State, Auditor-General of the Local Government
Councils of a State and Chairmen and members of the following bodies, that is to say, the
State Civil Service Commission, the State Judicial Service Commission and the State Local
Government Service Commission.
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thanks for the insight, barcanista almost misled everybody

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The essence of separation of power is for the three arms of government to checkmate one another. But Nigeria's case is always different.
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The People.
Thru a civil means or Revolution a.k.a. Enough is Enough.

barcanista:
The RMAFC is headed by a Chairman who is the Chief Executive. He's nominated by the President but approved by the Senate. He cannot be fired by the President at will. They have guideline and laws that they work with to determine the renumeration of public office holders EXCEPT the Judiciary.

But he can be suspended indefinitely while a new person is nominated?

barcanista:
The RMAFC is headed by a Chairman who is the Chief Executive. He's nominated by the President but approved by the Senate. He cannot be fired by the President at will. They have guideline and laws that they work with to determine the renumeration of public office holders EXCEPT the Judiciary.

Barcanista, please, are you into law or public service? Your diversity in knowledge don't seize to amaze me. I Admire you

barcanista:
@OP: The Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission determines the remuneration of Public office holders EXCEPT the Judiciary. However, the commission is guided by law of the Parliament (NAsS). The allocation cannot be modified or reviewed by the President except the law establishing it is amended by members of National Assembly. In other words, they still have the key. The best a President can do is to persuade members of NASS to amend the law guiding RMAFC. Otherwise, he can only make empty rant. He can't even change what his VP, Ministers, SAs, SSAs or even himself earn. He can only decide to forfeit a percentage of his income. As for the NASS, I bet you that any bill to amend the law guiding RMAFC will be killed upon arrival.

Right. We, the people, have to march on that NASS, otherwise, no show.

Except the youths take their destiny in their own hands,we'll continue to be at the mercy of these same old recycled leaders whom have said the youths of today have nothing to offer except to abuse drugs,and fight on the streets;yes that's the impression our leaders have of the youths. When I look at them when they sit at the house of assembly and house of reps,half of the are old men approaching 75/80yrs as well as ex-governors. Won fe Ku s'ibe ni , chop and quench!

The RMAFC unilaterally determines the salaries and allowances of our lawmakers and other various offices. See below.

Constitution, FRN, 1999. Relevant sections/subsections.

70. A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall receive such salary and other allowances as Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission may determine


84. (1) There shall be paid to the holders of the offices mentioned in this section such remuneration, salaries and allowances as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, but not exceeding the amount as shall have been determined by the Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission.

(2) The remuneration, salaries and allowances payable to the holders of the offices so mentioned shall be a charge upon the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation.

(3) The remuneration and salaries payable to the holders of the said offices and their conditions of service, other than allowances, shall not be altered to their disadvantage after their appointment.

(4) The offices aforesaid are the offices of President, Vice-President, Chief Justice of Nigeria, Justice of the Supreme Court, President of the Court of Appeal, Justice of the Court of Appeal, Chief Judge of the Federal High Court, Judge of the Federal High Court, Chief Judge and Judge of the High Court of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja, Chief Judge of a State, Judge of the High Court of a State, Grand Kadi of the Sharia Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja, President and Judge of the Customary Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja, Grand Kadi and Kadi of the Sharia Court of Appeal of a State, President and Judge of the Customary Court of Appeal of a State, the Auditor-General for the Federation and the Chairmen and members of the following executive bodies, namely, the Code of Conduct Bureau, the Federal Civil Service Commission, the Independent National Electoral Commission, the National Judicial Council, the Federal Judicial Service Commission, the Judicial Service Committee of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja, the Federal Character Commission, the Code of Conduct Tribunal, the National Population Commission, the Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission, the Nigeria Police Council and the Police Service Commission.

(5) Any person who has held office as President or Vice-President shall be entitled to pension for life at a rate equivalent to the annual salary of the incumbent President or Vice-President:

Provided that such a person was not removed from office by the process of impeachment or for breach of any provisions of this Constitution.

(6) Any pension granted by virtue of subsection (5) of this section shall be a charge upon the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation.

(7) The recurrent expenditure of judicial offices in the Federation (in addition to salaries and allowances of the judicial officers mentioned in subsection (4) of this section) shall be charge upon the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation.


124. (1) There shall be paid to the holders of the offices mentioned in this section such remuneration and salaries as may be prescribed by a House of Assembly, but not exceeding the amount as shall have been determined by the Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission.

(2) The remuneration, salaries and allowances payable to the holders of the offices so mentioned shall be charged upon the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the State.

(3) The remuneration and salaries payable to the holders of the said offices and their conditions of service, other than allowances, shall not be altered to their disadvantage after their appointment.

Caveat: This isn't an expert opinion; I'm not a legal expert, but a concerned Nigerian who is interested in seeing these thieves have their huge salaries and allowances cut down in line with current economic realities.

bayulll01:


Son of bitterness your analysis is so flaw and silly,all the president need to do is lead by examples and organized a live chat and televised live and let people know that the all the money for development is being used to serviced our law makers we elected to make good law that will improvise our life,bet me they won't even need to appeal to any law makers before they do the right thing,cos we people voted for them,and we will remove them

Must u start with insults?Someone made a great contribution devoid of any 'mis-yarnings'.... Instead of dropping ur comment, u expose ur stupidity

bayulll01:


Son of bitterness your analysis is so flaw and silly,all the president need to do is lead by examples and organized a live chat and televised live and let people know that the all the money for development is being used to serviced our law makers we elected to make good law that will improvise our life,bet me they won't even need to appeal to any law makers before they do the right thing,cos we people voted for them,and we will remove them

Stop educating him. He was employed to protect GEJs image at the expense of just about anyone. Have you seen what they are doing to Muazu? So please free him. GEJ circumvented the constitution to oust SLS. All of a sudden his hands are tied. GEJ circumvented the constitution to partially remove Petrol Subsidy. All of a sudden his hands are tied to influence the remunerations of the law makers.

We believe him. Na true. Mtchewww.

ammyluv2002:
All politicians are the same at least 95% so it doesn't really matter who's the Senate president

my dear, ALL politicians are not d same, majority are d same. It does matter. Leadership is very key and important and also very reflective. It is nt not onli wat u actually do alone dat matters, how u are perceived also greatly matters.

Kingspin:
Slashing our law makers salaries should be the real campaign change not those rubbish backyard changes we had before the last election.

If anybody start the agitation hear what people will say :
"The clueless Otuoke GEJ was there for six years what did he do,? "
Unto many, it will be something that is being carried out to smear the image of GMB govt and the APC.
So it will not work!!
By the time you know, 4yrs is gone.
"GMB will not do anything about it. It is not in millitary era anymore where decrees holds way.
Except of course he adopts the Gov. Amaechi of Rivers state method :
1. Shut down the judiciary
2. Close down the National Assembly allowing them to delibrate on skeletal issues in ASO Villa.
Both senarios are impossible in the National level. It can only happen in state level.
So it means that we are here for a long thing.

Eruditor:


Stop educating him. He was employed to protect GEJs image at the expense of just about anyone. Have you seen what they are doing to Muazu? So please free him. GEJ circumvented the constitution to oust SLS. All of a sudden his hands are tied. GEJ circumvented the constitution to partially remove Petrol Subsidy. All of a sudden his hands are tied to influence the remunerations of the law makers.

We believe him. Na true. Mtchewww.

Sometime when he barcanista speak you just wonder if the guy still have any more soul inside him,he's brain is fast deteriorating,heaven will help him

petermichaels:
D mases can stage an uproah and their voices will b heard. Take d uproar to them and their families. There is noting that canot b achieved in democracy by mass protest. Bt wait oh wat am i talkn sef? We wil rada fyt over tribal and religious difference instead of 4 d gud of d country. Afta we go shout e go beta. Hmmn! If i hear.

You just spoke my mind.

Mass protest, "Occupy NASS" will change things around. The power of change lies with the people.

[quote author=chuna1985 post=33413606]

The lawmakers can't decide to pay themselves one billion per month. This is because the president would need to sign it before it becomes law.[/quoe
Does that mean there are president(s) in the past that sign this into law?

Facts are coming out but the bottom line is how can their salaries and allowances be slashed DRASTICALLY not just some insignificant percentage

yertyr:

Must u start with insults?Someone made a great contribution devoid of any 'mis-yarnings'.... Instead of dropping ur comment, u expose ur stupidity

Choi! !!!

Eruditor:


But he can be suspended indefinitely while a new person is nominated?

He can only be suspended where there is a strong evidence warranting that. The plain truth is the heads of the RMFPC have been compromised by the NA. Put a Jega-like individual there, buhari can whisper to him what to do, if the NA attempts to sack him for no reason, there will be an uproar. Right now, the truth remains though that most Nigerians don't know about the commission.

Heffalump:


You just spoke my mind.

Mass protest, "Occupy NASS" will change things around. The power of change lies with the people.

That's the ONLY way! Occupy NASS!

[quote author=Suashi83 post=33416128][/quote]

It can't be slashed technically. If a president should just ignore dem n rebuild the country. The senate makes or breaks a presidents tenure

shegxi:
my dear, ALL politicians are not d same, majority are d same. It does matter. Leadership is very key and important and also very reflective. It is nt not onli wat u actually do alone dat matters, how u are perceived also greatly matters.

Okay, i get but remember we are talking about Nigeria politics here

yertyr:

Must u start with insults?Someone made a great contribution devoid of any 'mis-yarnings'.... Instead of dropping ur comment, u expose ur stupidity

Hey mr bozo did u just call me stupid,good you will be ban for life

torkaka:


. . . . . . .the constitution does not say RMAFC should fix the salaries in line with NASS guidelines . . . . . . . . .the guideline you refer to is an 'act' that any good constitutional lawyer will trash out

That means BUHARI was right after all when he said he was gonna slash their pay

torkaka:

. . . . . . .the constitution does not say RMAFC should fix the salaries in line with NASS guidelines . . . . . . . . .the guideline you refer to is an 'act' that any good constitutional lawyer will trash out

torkaka:

. . . . . . .the constitution does not say RMAFC should fix the salaries in line with NASS guidelines . . . . . . . . .the guideline you refer to is an 'act' that any good constitutional lawyer will trash out

Why have the "good constitutional lawyers" not trashed the guidelines or act of parliament over these years?

I'll save you the effort of an answer, it's because the NASS always gets to the Chairmen and members of the RMAFC and makes them dance to their whims and caprices.This mutual corruption has thrived because THE PEOPLE have been very docile and never agitated to see changes effected