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Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Gabriel300(m): 12:48pm On May 13, 2015 |
Mogidi:Tnks for pointing that out, but sentiments aside, do you honestly believe this 'dream' will be actualised? |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Nobody: 12:51pm On May 13, 2015 |
mr omooba they are talking about Biafra.
where are you? come and disgrace yourself |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by vivalavida(m): 12:57pm On May 13, 2015 |
I love barcanista for one thing. The guy digs and researches well and his articles and points are always on point. Biafra and the Niger delta dont belong in this contraption called Nigeria. We have nothing in common with the southwesterners and the northern feudal revanchist. Any steps being taken to cancel this forced marriage by lord lugard is supportrd fully by me. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by ruggedboy01: 12:57pm On May 13, 2015 |
himkers:not just governor of plateau....... President of the Islamic Republic of arewa 1 Like |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Mogidi: 12:57pm On May 13, 2015 |
Gabriel300: Its either a referendum or the destructive path of warfare, I know the one I prefer. For years Tinubu was at the forefront agitating for true federalism until it became clear GEJ was going to make the dream come true. Himself and his fellow journeymen scampered at the historic moment the confab was called, so much for someone who believes in true federalism. But many in the SW believe in true federalism, e.g the OPC/Afenifere. 3 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Nobody: 1:01pm On May 13, 2015 |
Built2last: You are the defending champion of the "most liked and shared comment" You must have felt very different that day! 1 Like |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by superstar1(m): 1:01pm On May 13, 2015 |
Having read this, 2 questions came up. They are: 1. Why was there no agitation for Biafra or Upper Zambezi, whatever you like you can call it, under GEJ? 2. What stage of process are you now on the self determination process ladder? Let us highlight the processes of self determination and let us all see the level to which your advocacy has gotten to on the process ladder. It shall be clear to all whether you are really walking the talk or just mouthing. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by atlwireles: 1:03pm On May 13, 2015 |
barcanista: Jonathan never maintained the status quo, either did Nigerdelta political leaders assume erroneously things will be better, they wanted peace at all cost, now we know better. The level of tribal animosity that plagued Jonathan's administration is unprecedented in the history of Nigeria. The average Nigerdeltan carried Nigeria on their heads more than any other tribe, before March 28. This too has now changed. The election answered lots of questions, people only asked privately. The future has never been better, like people say, we not against anybody, we are just for ourselves. 3 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by socialmediaman: 1:04pm On May 13, 2015 |
@barcanista, unlike the Biafra agitators who are very clear on their demands without conditions, you have not made up your mind yet. You don't even know if you want your own sovereignty or whether you want to remain in Nigeria. If you want to remain in Nigeria, you have to be willing to share. You have a point about the NNPC being in the Niger Delta Region, not just the NNPC, the NGC etc, but your demand of 50% derivation doesn't really come close to reality based on our presidential system of government, who will fund the federal government agencies? Except you want them to be the burden of the states too, so that government can focus of the army and federal institutions like Tax agencies. One more question, what happens if the economy is diversified and government decides to reduce its oil exports? And what if states afford to build refineries, buy oil and also export petrol, who will get the derivation? 8 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:05pm On May 13, 2015 |
obi4eze: let me help you bro... Locating the NDDC, Ministry of ND etc will have VERY many positive effect especially economically on that region with particular reference to host community and state. Also the multiplier effect on the social, economic and political wellbeing of the populace will be tremendous...Imagine what positive effects location of higher institutions do have on host community in terms of development and apply it here...But note this will be more given economic rating of the actors....thanks |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by NDPVF(m): 1:06pm On May 13, 2015 |
barcanista:People has called me names here,because of same stand.i av' been tagged Igbo by many idiots,who doesnt know how weeks i spent in the creeks,to fight for the emancipation of Niger Delta.I went as far as swearing with my life and that of my father,to prove to one us.eless Ikwerreboy here yesterday,that am not Igbo,but a proud son of Niger Delta,and ibibio by ethnicity.by difference with him is that,i av' seen what he hasnt yet seen,and he is still living in pre/post war propoganda era, Truth is that,our future is in danger,if we dont act now. Absolute resource control/true federalism.Anything short of that,is outright division. But hear the hardest truth;the last thing that the Hausa/fulani oligarchy,and their oil savvy/political surrogates/slaves in southwest will do,is to support it. Nigeria=Niger Delta Oil.and Niger Delta Oil=Nigeria.Take our oil away,Nigeria collapses. Our unity is 'oiled' by our oil and political inequality. Our only option,is referrendum. A negotiated Biafra/Lower Niger Region,where all groups are federating units,with less power at the centre,and absolute resource control,will be the best thing to happen to us. We are 98% christains,with closely related cultures and boundaries. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Nobody: 1:07pm On May 13, 2015 |
Mogidi:I can't help but wonder why the Nigeria state will rather want the people to force their way out rather than oto heed the path of reasoning. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by NDPVF(m): 1:10pm On May 13, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:so you have energy to waste on that lost soul.ok,kwontinu. |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:11pm On May 13, 2015 |
ruggedboy01: God bless you for this... |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:15pm On May 13, 2015 |
NDPVF: Sometimes I imagine if its just mental incapacitation or mere joke that propels obi4eze...but I had to reply him maturely here to grant him that benefit of doubt...People should sometimes look at the bigger picture and not see things always through the mirror of partisanship... |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Nobody: 1:17pm On May 13, 2015 |
NDPVF:It is worrisome that the same issue that patriarchs advocated for till their death is the same issue that we are still facing with no hope in sight. When late British PM Magareth Thatcher said Nigeria's unity is artificial and is powered by oil, many thought she was singing hymns. The call for referendum should not be delayed any longer. What makes me happy is that the unity of the SS/SE is waxing strong. Our culture, religion and even value system is identical. 3 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Ayus34(m): 1:17pm On May 13, 2015 |
barcanista:Please quickly take the real step of separating from d country,infact 100% resource control will not be good for niger delta.....just call for total separation and i promise i will always be do everything under tge law to make it a reality for u guyz.....afterall AWO defined nigeria as a mere geographical region but ur short sighted azikwe objected it and ganged up with the same tribe u guyz hate today........even personally im tired of nigeria with Igbos sharing the same nationality.......the greatest problem A nation could ve is to ve Igbos as neighbour or nationals!anyleader against the breakage of the useless country will be put to shame IJN! 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by NDPVF(m): 1:19pm On May 13, 2015 |
atlwireles:Jonathan isnt the worst president,but he happens to govern the set of worst people on planet earth.The change they wished for,is just the change of Jonathan,and nothing more. The Hausa/fulani and their us.eless surrogate down here,the Southwest,are bunch of worst people on planet earth.they blackmailed jonathan out of office.any idiot who quotes me to talk trash,will go down. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:20pm On May 13, 2015 |
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Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by kettykings: 1:21pm On May 13, 2015 |
Should they start selling their properties in Lagos, it seems the concept of Biafra is now an idea whose time has come 2 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by MayorofLagos(m): 1:21pm On May 13, 2015 |
Sir Isaac Adaka Boro declared the Independent Niger Delta Republic in 1966 citing the marginalisation that the region suffered. He was misunderstood even by the locals and the republic only lasted for 12days before it was crushed. Boro would later joined the fight against the State of Biafra in order to preserve a United Nigeria in 1967. He was the Chief Proponent of Resource Control. This the Nigeria state never gave in despite the support of the region. Barca, Patriotism for pan Nigeria was not the reason for agitations in the Niger Delta. Against Government policies which regarded the region as a minority, the people see themselves as an independent entity. Again, we cannot start telling of the political dynamics of Nigeria from the 60s alone we need to go back to the ages of "Treaties with the Coastal Kings" when the coastal people repulsed the dominance of an external power over their territorial domain. This energy and spirit did not die even though they ceded political authority to the might of the invaders. There are truly three independent Nations in Southern Nigeria and they are: 1. Yoruba and proto Yoruba (Bini/Itsekiri) 2. Ijaw/Ogoni 3. Kalabari/Efik. The Yoruba, Bini and Itsekiri was granted a political Independence in 1957 under what was called Western Nigeria. The territory covered from Lagos to Warri on the coast and from Ekiti to Asaba in the forest. There was an Independent Eastern Nigeria also created in 1957 and put under political dominance of the Ibos, a new development in the political history of the Southern Kingdoms. The Ijaw/Ogoni and the Kalabari/Efik people werw underneath this new political formation, which later evolved into Biafra. The agitatiin of Boko, Saro and others were therefore not to keep Nigeria together but rather to remain independent from Biafra/Eastern region and everyone else. Please lets speak to true history and stop using the 60s as the beacon of political beginnings of the nations in Nigeria. 4 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by AWONEYAN(m): 1:23pm On May 13, 2015 |
just because Jona lost abi................... If GEJ had won his re-election, would you guys still been singing this song? Just asking...... I am not a keen supporter of this forced almagamation in the first place. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by atlwireles: 1:25pm On May 13, 2015 |
NDPVF: Only fools consider Jonathan the worst president, he remains by every empirical data the best President of Nigeria till today. Just like most Niger deltans till march 2015, he carried Nigeria matters on his head more than Nigeria. Also, give up your impostor status and please never quote me again. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:26pm On May 13, 2015 |
Ayus34: I don't want this to degenerate into ethnic war but what did Awolowo do when it was time to put those his words to action?...don't reply me...just keep meditating on the answer....thanks 2 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Nobody: 1:30pm On May 13, 2015 |
Dear Biafrans! My passion for Biafra is not about oil! I am more concerned of the systematic annihilation by Jihardists who will love to see us conquered. It is either we get cowed and accept the primitive Arabic system of life in the name of a religion or we shall be killed and our lands taken over! This is the greatest of all the dangers than even the take over of the oil. If I have my way, I will trade the oil for our freedom. With our freedom, we can can achieve our dreams! Our dream is Industrialisation (creativity, Research, productivity), then we add commercialisation. We shall be the "China" of the black race and the "Dubai" Of Africa. We need to focus! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Nobody: 1:32pm On May 13, 2015 |
socialmediaman:I don't really get your point but I will try to respond. The present constitution is a fraud and does not represent the wish of the ss/se. So that is even out of the question. Before oil was found in commercial quantity, Nigeria practised the 50% derivation of groundnut and other resources. There is no divine instruction that the SS should suffer for others to enjoy. No way! Wehn we talk of "Derivation" we mean OIL derivation and other mineral resources and tax. We don't care who diversifies or not dude. As for whether or not I'm for Biafra/Lower Niger Republic, the SS/SE have been very fair. It is either there is equity and end to marginalisation or we do a referendum to determine whether or not we want to remain. We don't have to kill ourselves to make statement. I am 100% aligned to this position 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by NDPVF(m): 1:32pm On May 13, 2015 |
barcanista:We cant continue to be enemy of ourselves,which gives birth to our exploitation. I cant imagine Exxonmobil operating in my fatherland,while its operational headquatre is in far away lagos.what for?.do they share in oil spills that ravages our land and pollutes our waters?.please tell me,what for?.whats the rationale behind hotsing NNPC headquarter,NDDC,and its affaliates,etc,in Abuja,while they leave us with oil pollution.sometimes i feel like slapping anyone that comes here to tell me why we should be one Nigeria,without first correcting the injustice meted against our people. 6 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Nobody: 1:33pm On May 13, 2015 |
AWONEYAN: Jonathan ascending to Aso Rock was a little "pause" on the "long walk to freedom"! The pause is over, on the match again! 4 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by mobaking: 1:37pm On May 13, 2015 |
If u want seperation,put pressure on ur governors,elected officials and traditional rulers to take the neccesary steps and start following the U.N procedures to secession.But I will tell u why it will fail, you people love money more than freedom.The average easterner will be shouting biafra at the same moment thinking of increasing his shops in kano instead of moving his business back to Biafra to develop it.Put ur money where ur mouth is. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Ayus34(m): 1:41pm On May 13, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:U are a fool.....u quoted my comment and u re telling me not to reply u,thunder fire ur yansh......u want awo to join u in ur unplanned,unreasonable,unrealistic war....when there better means of separation......the best way to separate was the creator of this useless country to put it into law in uk house of paliament,which awo fought for but ur myopic azikwe was against it and u are talking about putting it to action.....u mean a well respected man like Awo should put foolishness to action like azikwe? slowpoke IS UR SECOND NAME! 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:41pm On May 13, 2015 |
AWONEYAN: I believe that if Jonathan won that he would have implemented the Confab report which is a quasi-restructuring of the system and probably achieve increased resource control even if not up to 50%...And these won't be palatable to the oligarchs up north hence they had to take advantage of Tinubu lust for power cum SW craze for attention and authority to scuttle those moves by Jonathan... Check pre-confab statements by leaders of the north including those in PDP and see that they were mandated to protect the interest of the NORTH not NIGERIA...And coincidentally, most of the results in confab report are pro-nigeria but anti-north. What do you think would be their next move if not to force Jonathan out to scuttle the implementation of the said report....thanks 3 Likes |
Re: Niger Delta, Biafra And The Nigeria State by NDPVF(m): 1:44pm On May 13, 2015 |
atlwireles:Seems you misunderstood my the last part of comment that you quoted,i was trying to say that,any 'idiot that will quote me to say Jonathan was voted out because of poor performance,other than the known conspiracy of our internal colonialists,must go down'.wasn't referring to you,cos' they will come quoting me,to talk their usual rubbish. BTW,am not an imposter,i live it real. We need freedom ASAP. 1 Like |
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