TheGoodJoe:


How do the Hull fans expect a brilliant display from Aluko when he chose to park the bus. There is no way a striker can cope and do well against a pressing Man City who are more in numbers.

joseph1013:


His usual chase-and-cut moves were dismal. He was not the sharp Aluko I watched last season.

TheGoodJoe:


Look at CR7 against Barcelona. He was not as sharp as we know. Look at Isco when he came on, his skills did not work.

That is what happens when a team is on the defensive and the attacking team is more in number. The attacking players are crowded. The skills will not work out well because he is crowded. The defenders of Hull will look good because they are defending in numbers, that is they are more defenders.

Attacking players are mostly poor in parked bus formations.

joseph1013:

How many matches of Aluko have you watched this season? Did you watch yesterday's game?

joseph1013:

How many matches of Aluko have you watched this season? Did you watch yesterday's game?

TheGoodJoe:



[b]Sportsmole rating of Real Madrid attacking players of the last El Classico games.

James Rodriguez: Returned to the XI following injury, but was played in a deep role and saw little of the ball in the first period. Started the second half well, but was replaced in the 55th minute. (6/10)

Attack

Cristiano Ronaldo: Had a difficult night, but was comfortably his team's best attacker. Would have finished the night with a couple of goals but for some excellent goalkeeping from Claudio Bravo. (6/10)

Karim Benzema: Has only just returned from a lay-off and also has off-the-field concerns at the moment. Nowhere near the player that he was at the start of the season. Just not fit enough. (5/10)

Gareth Bale: Another that has only just returned from injury and another that struggled to make an impression. Looked dangerous in possession, but was pretty non-existent for long stages. (5/10)

Substitutes

Isco: Set up a good chance for Ronaldo after entering in the 55th minute, but was sent off late on for a really poor challenge on Neymar - kicking out at the Brazilian when the ball had gone. (4/10)

So Blasting the attacking players on a defensive formation is wrong because they hardly perform in such formation.

Talk less of Hull City with a team with limited abilities against Man City.[/b]

TheGoodJoe:


I did not watch yesterday's game but logic shows that an attacking player can not thrive in a parked bus scenario. Did you watch the last El Classico? Tell me one attacking Madrid player that had a good game.

You can not criticise an attacking player for having a poor game in a parked bus formation.

So I wonder what the number of Aluko's games you have watched has to do with this. I am not disagreeing he was poor. In that kind of formation, he must perform poorly.

joseph1013:
This is interesting! You didn't watch a game yet you feel qualified to talk about the nitty gritty of the game. Isn't that something?

You probably didn't watch the Barca's game, if not you'd know that Madrid didn't play a defensive game. Casimero, who had started 10 straight games before that match was benched cos CR7 and other senior players prevailed on Benitez not to be defensive. So, he was dropped totally from the game.

Again, how you feel qualified to analyse a game you didn't watch is surprising to me.

joseph1013:


His usual chase-and-cut moves were dismal. He was not the sharp Aluko I watched last season.

joseph1013:
This is interesting! You didn't watch a game yet you feel qualified to talk about the nitty gritty of the game. Isn't that something?

You probably didn't watch the Barca's game, if not you'd know that Madrid didn't play a defensive game. Casimero, who had started 10 straight games before that match was benched cos CR7 and other senior players prevailed on Benitez not to be defensive. So, he was dropped totally from the game.

Again, how you feel qualified to analyse a game you didn't watch is surprising to me.

justiz5:

To be sincere with you Sir, Aluko may need a fresh baptism to regain the form and confidence he exhibited last season, which made him cause havoc to opposing defenders.

An Aluko of last season needed just few minutes to change games, just the same way Kelechi Iheanacho is doing at Mancity.

I don't just think it's just all about formation. I want to see him in the Super Eagles, but let him up his game first.

TheGoodJoe:


I watched El Clasico. I gave up the Liverpool vs City game to watch it. I know for sure Madrid did not park the bus but I am using it as a scenario because Barca dominated the game and the attacking players of Madrid did not get enough chances to express themselves.

I repeat, Logically, in a parked bus formation, the attacking players hardly have a good game.

Answer these questions:
Did Hull City park the bus?
If yes, do you expect the attacking players to have a good game?

TheGoodJoe:


Aluko having a poor form is not my problem. My problem is the fans of Hull blasting him and Akpom in a game the whole team was dominated.

There is no way the attackers can have a good game if the team is dominated.

justiz5:

To be sincere with you Sir, Aluko may need a fresh baptism to regain the form and confidence he exhibited last season, which made him cause havoc to opposing defenders.

An Aluko of last season needed just few minutes to change games, just the same way Kelechi Iheanacho is doing at Mancity.

I don't just think it's just all about formation. I want to see him in the Super Eagles, but let him up his game first.

joseph1013:
[b]Your point is getting muddled. Stop with saying 'logically'. What does that even mean in this context.

Are you saying that for every game in which one team dominated the other that we do not have bright spots?

The reason I'm reluctant to discuss this game with you is because you did not watch it. Hernandez and Snodgrass came in for Akpom and Aluko respectively and they played better than the duo removed. So what's your point?

Even in this case, I wasn't referring to the collective team effort to affect Aluko's game, I'm referring to what he did with the ball when he had it. Inaccurate passes. Was that the team's fault? Wayward shooting. Was that the team's fault? Inability to successfully complete 1-on-1 with Otamendi. Was that the team's fault?

I know you have the obligation to defend your countrymen, but at least watch the games you want to defend them on, perhaps you would be able to manufacture some points from that. Yesterday, the adventureness in Aluko was non-existent. [/b]

joseph1013:
He thinks it's all about formation. I think his major problem is that he didn't watch the game, else he'd know that Robertson did very well eventhough the team was dominated.

Aluko was dismal in the game. Period.

TheGoodJoe:



That is exactly what I am saying. You can not make clean passes as an attacking player if the team is dominated. I do not need to watch the Dinamo Zagreb Bayern Munich match to know the Dinamo attacking players had a bad game. If you check, skills will fail and passes will be missed.

It is not a Nigeria thing. It is a case if a side defending and expecting that attacking players to have a good game.

Most times in these kind of games, the Substitutes of the defending side play better because now, the team will push further.

If you check the Dinamo game, the Substitutes will play better.

So blasting Akpom and Aluko is wrong because the coach set them up to play poorly.

TheGoodJoe:


Did I say Aluko was fantastic. I said he was bound to have a poor game because the coach decided the team was to defend.

justiz5:

To be sincere with you Sir, Aluko may need a fresh baptism to regain the form and confidence he exhibited last season, which made him cause havoc to opposing defenders.

An Aluko of last season needed just few minutes to change games, just the same way Kelechi Iheanacho is doing at Mancity.

I don't just think it's just all about formation. I want to see him in the Super Eagles, but let him up his game first.

forgiveness:


Aluko was just coming back from injury prior to Hull-city last two matches and I wasn't expecting him to play. Going into details of the match against Manchester city, he was the playmaker of his team and that was why Hull-city was able to control the game but as soon as he was removed, Man city was able to control the game and that resulted to 3 more goals.

Aluko seems to be a playmaker than a Striker and I think he played very very well against Manchester city.

joseph1013:
[b][size=14pt]MARKED MAN IGHALO VOWS TO WORK HARDER[/size]



Nigeria international Odion Ighalo has revealed that been the target of opposing defenders has made him to work a lot harder to get more goals for Watford in the EPL.

Ighalo, who attracted defenders to himself whenever his team attack, said the opponents feel he is Watford danger man and therefore strive to stop him by all means, but all that has made him a better player.

"Opposing defenders are always around me because they feel I am the danger man of my team, so there are always two players marking me. That has really help me grow more, to get better and work harder preparing for every game because I now realise it will take real hard work to score goals," Ighalo said.

The Watford striker, who is the third leading scorer in the EPL this season with eight goals, said he was delighted with a hard-earned victory over Aston Villa at the weekend.

"The game against Aston Villa was tough and difficult, but thank God we won," Ighalo said.[/b]

joseph1013:


[b]Man City scored the three goals, not cos Aluko was removed but cos Kelechi and Sterling were introduced. Their speed and movements destabilised their defence. Sterling made his trademark run to cross for Kelechi for the first goal. It was a goal he shouldn't have scored. The second goal was as a result of Kelechi winning an aerial ball for Kevin and the last was a direct freekick.

After Hernandez and Snodgrass were introduced, Otamendi and Mangala especially started making errors at the back, hence their only goal. I didnt see a single thing Aluko did right in that match. Oga, Hull City did not control the game whilst Aluko was on the pitch o. Please check the Stats. It was 62% for City and 38% for Hull. Haba bros!

And you cant blame injuries for that performance. How can you not expect him to play. That's preposterous! The guy's been fit since early last month and has even played two matches before the Man City game; matches in which eventhough they did not win, the fans did not single him out for condemnation. He played against Derby and Bristol City. He is fully fit.[/b]