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Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by angelsing(m): 7:51pm On May 19, 2015 |
Meiji:What is our business with lagos state?...Is lagos our country?, Abeg comot for road make we see road jare abi u think say everything na about PDP and APC..if u want to talk about lagos state, go and start a thread on that because right now we are talking about Nigeria not lagos 5 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by 989900: 7:55pm On May 19, 2015 |
dekdek: It beats every right thinking person's imagination! 1 Like |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by angelsing(m): 8:01pm On May 19, 2015 |
Meiji:For christ sake we are talking about the country not a state...If u want to talk about lagos state debt go and open a thread for that but for now we are talking about hw much the country owes...Still wonders every time they criticise the federal government the next line of talk wil be about lagos state...Is lagos state our country?..abeg Op tell us how much we dey owe jare! 4 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by Nobody: 8:11pm On May 19, 2015 |
Eruditor: I am not excusing GEJ's govt....I merely point out that we do not have enough in the first place. (That is why corruption is so painful in Nigeria...they are stealing from a treasury that is basically not bountiful enough). And Algeria BTW has 37 million people...and is not reliant on oil. As does Saudi and Norway...which have 12 million people.Nigeria has 170 million people. See why we cannot save enough money....and why it is bad people in govt are so corrupt.? The thrust of my argument...in case you missed it...is that Nigeria must be an industrial society for us to have a mega mega GDP (Or we tell 140 million Nigerians that they are citizens of Niger Republic).\. Which is why I am angry with PDP...16 years in power...and they did not fix the lights. |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by Nobody: 8:18pm On May 19, 2015 |
Ishilove:take a stand, do you support APC or PDP. Don't sit on the fence |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by 989900: 8:20pm On May 19, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: Riddle me this: Why didn't the Naira appreciate when it was 'rising oil prices'? Greatest oil plunge (prices) ever was in '08 from $147.27 to $33.55. And Naira didn't commit suicide then. Agreed there could be some drop in value of the Naira but this is tooo much! In 1998 to early 1999, during Gen. Abdulsalami, oil price dropped to $9, exchange rate stabilized at about N88. So, if your exchange rate was N88 with oil price at nine dollars, how can you explain that when your oil price is over $50 . . .(presently between $65-70 for the past few weeks . . . over $100/barrel oil is not a given . . . even the Rouble with all the sanctions, have made a 20% comeback), while claiming biggest economy in Africa, top 3 projected growth rate in the world, and your exchange rate is now N200,N210,N215 to $1? How do you go about selling oil for the highest prices ever, over the longest period ever, while depleting the country's reserve from $62b (ECA inclusive) to what $30b or thereabout?!! While OBJ could grow our reserves from less than $5b in 1999 to $42b, while selling oil at an average of $35/barrel. if the economy was better managed, our foreign reserves should have been between $100 –$120 billion and exchange rate around N110 before the fall in oil prices. As of now, the reserves should be around $90 billion and exchange rate no higher than N125 per dollar. You say your growth is a non-oil sector . . . , how come that the depreciation in oil price has so much impact on your economy? When the likes of countries like Qatar, U.A.E, Saudi and co. were busy investing both home and abroad, to secure their economies and their children's future, and the whole world tapping-in frantically into the service sector income generation, what were we doing? Buying 10 private jets? Flying chattered for N10b naira! Going from paying N200-300b in fuel subsidy to paying N2 trillion, while all our refineries needed less than N100b to get back to refining roughly 30million litres of PMS/day!! Spending N10b on some conference/partying? Forget about the massive plundering that went into the elections, yet, getting the refineries to work, is so much work. 90% of the country's budget is for what again . . . and yet we borrow? And my president feeds/feasts with roughly N3m/day! 5 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by Nobody: 8:28pm On May 19, 2015 |
989900: To summarize my views....which I have expressed here on nairaland so many times over... Nigeria must industrialize because the oil money really is not enough.... And Corruption in Nigeria must be stopped because the thieves are stealing from a not so buoyant treasury. As an assignment....read Pass the books and hold the oil. And I am angry with the PDP because they refuse to get us off oil...and leave us vulnerable to the effects of Dutch disease (google Dutch disease). |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by anonimi: 8:29pm On May 19, 2015 |
I guess no one wants to know who incurred the N3 trillion before Jonathan and more importantly WHAT they achieved with the debt No wonder we have Daura President Buhari to rule over us as most of us are just too DULL!!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by patrick89(m): 8:29pm On May 19, 2015 |
Eruditor:amechi led group sued Fg and okonjo, forcing them to share it and they did!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by after1: 8:31pm On May 19, 2015 |
[s] ECOTERRORS:[/s] Whats your own on who she supports, face your scam work. 1 Like |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by anonimi: 8:31pm On May 19, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: Did you say PDP Why are you so fixated about PDP as if you are an UNIFORMED Nigerian? www.nairaland.com/attachments/2102459_apcteam_png6dc9407cdcc2b68174c445361fc3e4c9 |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by patrick89(m): 8:34pm On May 19, 2015 |
Eruditor:see analysis.. Did you know when minimum wage was increased? Did you know when bokoharam insurgency appeared? Did you know how much ASUU, Labour unions that demanded increment in their wages! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by 989900: 8:35pm On May 19, 2015 |
patrick89: Because the ECA was being bled by the FG! And what did the FG do with their own 52% share of the ECA? |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by anonimi: 8:37pm On May 19, 2015 |
patrick89: Thank you for the FREE education you are giving the many UNINFORMED pretenders we have as fellow citizens who are easily carried away by HALF truths of propaganda. For those who may wish to know more - FG, States, LGs Share N568.4 Billion for Oct 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by patrick89(m): 8:37pm On May 19, 2015 |
omonnakoda:you have been waiting for this day! You are the failure here for not recognising her efforts! She made sure ghost workers are off. Importation was less stressful. Paying the workers when due. SMEs mortgage bank, and development bank are all her ideas.. Now tell me what your mother has achieved apart from bringing to earth a disaster like you! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by omonnakoda: 8:42pm On May 19, 2015 |
patrick89:Your mother will bleed to death. She will die coughing |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by 989900: 8:46pm On May 19, 2015 |
Corruption in Nigeria must be stopped because the thieves are stealing from a not so buoyant treasury. The above (that you said) is your real 'Mc Coy', every other thing (dutch disease/flu), industrialization and e.t.c. will fall in place if the above is tackled head on/sincerely. P.S. Apart from industries, even the advanced economies are moving more into developing the service industry, which has virtually unlimited potentials, especially if you have the population to take advantage of. Give Nigeria to the late Lim Kuan Yew, and watch us become a top ten economy in the world in ten years! |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by patrick89(m): 8:50pm On May 19, 2015 |
989900:no brother google Currency War you will find out that naira is performing bera than some currencies. All the oil producing nations from venezuela, norway russia etc have devalued their currency more than naira. Go figure out! Nigeria isn't the only country with devalued currency! Infact. Nigeria is doing very well when compared with other countries aside UAE and qatar and mind you their SWF is far bigger than nigerian, their reserves too are way bigger than nigeria. We have infrastructural deficit unlike the developed nation like norway yet their currency against dollar is horrible. smh |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by patrick89(m): 8:52pm On May 19, 2015 |
omonnakoda:thunder will annihilate any trace of you. And your generation! |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by patrick89(m): 8:52pm On May 19, 2015 |
omonnakoda:thunder will annihilate any trace of you. And your generation! Your mother will never wake up tomorrow! |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by omonnakoda: 8:54pm On May 19, 2015 |
The federal government has NO RIGHT to keep money belonging to the state govenments in a so called Excess Crude Account. It is unconstitutional Leaving that to one side The FG budget is based on a benchmark and so the FG is well within its right to keep ITS OWN funds or earnings above the benchmark in an Excess Crude Account.The State governments CANNOT COMPEL the FG to spend its own share. So the excuse that the States forced the FG to share the money DOES NOT WASH. Where is the Federal Government share of the ECA. In fact the only way the FG could spend it lawfully was to have a supplementary budget.The FG not only spent it but continued to borrow running a DEFICIT BUDGET EVERY YEAR. How can the state government be blamed for that. The blame for this goes squarely on the President ,the Finance Minister and the Legislators for not providing anything remotely like oversight It is unfortunate that when it comes to budgeting both at state and FG level the legislators are mere rubber stamps 2 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by Charly68: 8:55pm On May 19, 2015 |
He was lucky to escape shame and disgrace of economic palava that he created. He was indeed very clueless as he watched his ministers ran down the economy of our great country he will be the first man to out Naija into the hole of terrible debt. |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by omonnakoda: 8:57pm On May 19, 2015 |
patrick89:Your mother will die coughing she will choke to death |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by patrick89(m): 8:59pm On May 19, 2015 |
omonnakoda:what is this one saying? |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by omonnakoda: 9:00pm On May 19, 2015 |
patrick89:Your mother will choke to death like a pig at slaughter |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by patrick89(m): 9:01pm On May 19, 2015 |
omonnakoda:I'm sure your mother is dead! Silly subhuman! |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by omonnakoda: 9:02pm On May 19, 2015 |
patrick89:Your mother will choke to death |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by kayzeesoft(m): 9:04pm On May 19, 2015 |
This guy no try at all. He deserve jail. 25years in prison with hard labour. He really suck us dry. |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by grandstar(m): 9:05pm On May 19, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: It can immediately be countered by slashing company taxes to 15%. Also, if government starts to dollarise the oil income paid to the three tiers of government every month, this will reduce interest rates to single digits and there can be a looser monetary policy. This has the twin effect of encouraging investment and also slashing the cost of servicing the debts owed by the states greatly. With much cheaper cost of credit, companies can borrow and invest creating lots of jobs. For instance, if interest rates were low, it will be affordable for people to take out mortgages which will aid a construction boom. The country needs to grow by 7% to create enough jobs to absorb those entering the labor market yearly. With the above policies, growth will accelerate to 8-10% which will mean that the economy will create more than enough jobs to not only cater to those entering the labor force yearly, but will include the already existing pool of the unemployed and underemployed. Continue with such growth for a few years and the labor market will become tight 1 Like |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by patrick89(m): 9:09pm On May 19, 2015 |
omonnakoda:my rip regard to your dead mother sissy! |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by 989900: 9:11pm On May 19, 2015 |
patrick89: Naira was one of the world's worst performing currencies of 2014?!!. It is not topping that chart presently because, it has already fallen. Plus, your charts would not tell you that, you would not get the dollar at N197, rather at N210(interbank) or N220 (parallel). Foreign reserves are half of the story, UAE, Norway, Canada, Oman and some others have probably less than $80b. However, most gulf countries have their currencies pegged to the dollar for over 20 years or more now. Nigeria is probably doing better than Venezuela only . . .lol. Even Russia and Iran under enormous sanctions have made gains . . . the Rouble has made 20% gain with the 'rising oil prices', akin to saying the Naira now exchanges for N150/$1. You do not need any google/froogle or anything/body to tell you that your N155,000=$1,000, is better than your N210,000=$1,000 (inter bank rate). Nor, do you need a soothsayer to decipher importing refined products as an oil producing state is madness! For the rest, kindly read my comments 2 more times, and get honest . . . 3 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Govt Incurs N5trn Domestic Debt In Five Years by omonnakoda: 9:13pm On May 19, 2015 |
patrick89:my damnation to your wretched mother she will waste to death before your eyes |
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