netotse:

@kaybaba
where are you serving?your statement about NIM is similar to whats happening here o!, you didnt tell us what ur interests where and expantiate on what you want outta EE(personally i think EE's shouldnt bother with NIM)

well, NIM should not be the most important thing for EE corpers anyways.

Umm, that's me scratching my head. What's NIM?

it means Nigerian Institute of Management. in my opinion its not worth very much, ppl just do it so they have certificates to carry about and they can add MNIM after their names. The ppl that did it here dont go to classes it doesnt seem to be a very credible program

hmm talking about credible programs

an ex-classmate of mine just finished Fibre-optics training at DBI

and he was extremely surprised, it was all hands on

says he can vouch for DBI, just that its fricking expensive for individuals

sometimes i wish the career path i've chosen was as simple as getting certifications. . .i mean this place is killing me, i'm bored stiff, there's no sensible work being done!

Lol.

you would soon be outta there

hehe.

Why dont you take up something new

netotse:

sometimes i wish the career path i've chosen was as simple as getting certifications. . .i mean this place is killing me, i'm bored stiff, there's no sensible work being done!

Use your time wisely. Learn new stuff, get into all these computer/IT thingies, and resolve your postgrad issues.
Focus more on postgrad at this time. If you're really bent on power, you should seriously consider a postgrad degree abroad.

study abroad will be expensive oh, wat is other alternative that we av pls

@ evry1
Am an apprentice in ds field n i enjoy evry part of it, bt my '0'level wos commercial dept, i didnt go 4 science class n i lov ds work, pls i nid ur advice coz am comfused wit future coz i tot am gonna go 4 Economics bt due to financial problm i go in2 d field as a labour along d line i fell in lov wid it, since den av bn in2 d field. Elect/elect z my evrytin 4 nw bt my parent wot me 2 study economics. Pls wot shuld i do.

Liyola:

@ evry1
Am an apprentice in ds field n i enjoy evry part of it, bt my '0'level wos commercial dept, i didnt go 4 science class n i lov ds work, pls i nid ur advice coz am comfused wit future coz i tot am gonna go 4 Economics bt due to financial problm i go in2 d field as a labour along d line i fell in lov wid it, since den av bn in2 d field. Elect/elect z my evrytin 4 nw bt my parent wot me 2 study economics. Pls wot shuld i do.

@Liyola
i think you should discourse this very well with your parents. any decision you take now can effect what you will be in the future. but if you are bent on doing electrical/electronics eng, then you can drop your email on this thread. i will mail you and we arrange how to mt and get things going.

@lakside44
liyola_ymail@ymail.com

Kay-baba:

study abroad will be expensive oh, wat is other alternative that we av pls

Then study here, like most of us did. Just make sure you pass very well.
I'm sure you know that nothing is guaranteed, either here or abroad.

i need Industrial Trainee students to undergo there training in our dynamic company.The company is @ kudirat abiola road oregun.interesred student should pls contact thru phone 08076357959 or come to plot 42,kudirat abiola way and ask of mr lekan or ask of store manager

@mr lekan
what's the name of the company? What exactly do u guyz do in your company? Did it attract any sallary?

PLS, AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF SOMEONE WHO IS FULLY IN INSTRUMENTATION AND CONTROL, NOT FOR EMPLOYMENT PURPOSE, BUT I WANT TO LEARN SOME THINGS FROM HE/HER. PLS U CAN MAIL ME USING riches012002@yahoo.com or 07060456569.




looking forward in hearing from somebody soon.


GOD BLESS WE ALL.

RICHARD E.O.

Hello Everyone,

i have really enjoyed every bit of the threads especially those one shared by ajanlekoko.

I am a practitioner and i think i should share my own experience with the house.

i am 6 years in the field and my experience started from a broadcasting house where i was i pupil engineer, there and then i got into PABX from where i changed into wireless technology and now GSM/CDMA.

When chosing a specialist area in telecom tech it is difficult to know this especially if you are still aspiring but it is important you have an ambition so that you know you are working on something.

My experience in the last 4 years in wireless technology(GSM/CDMA) has been very remarkable and at the same time rewarding because on the job you discover you face new challenges everyday.

From my day to day responsilbilty i still find time to do train others because that is the beauty of the technology.

If you have any questions or need counselling feel free to mail me to ideastelecom@gmail.com


Cheers and good Luck.

@oyb Am very happy about this forum. Am a young electrical engineer just stepping into the work environment. Pls, oyb am interested in electrical engineering design but do not know how to go about it. I've tried using autoCAD electrical but didnt find it interesting. I do not know the electrical design package I can use. Pls advise me.

Each day I keep changing my mind, based on new knowledge from each sector.
I don't have much time, yet I've not decided on which engineering I want to study.

I often wonder, why do we have so many aspiring Nigerian engineers/ Nigerian engineers, yet nothing has been done with  PHCN or the ability to find ways to accumulate more electricity. You guys are engineers, you're suppose to "solve problems".
No wonder more women are wanted in the Engineering field , we must do everything right?

I often wonder, why do we have so many aspiring Nigerian engineers/ Nigerian engineers, yet nothing has been done with PHCN or the ability to find ways to accumulate more electricity

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the problem with PHCN is not technical, it is political

in nigeria, you always have to contend with the agendas of the people disbursing the money. contractors who are really the proxies of govt officials are imposed on you - these guys will first eat half of the project money, then subcontract the rest out

the other day we had a discussion about how so many politicians have fked up gas powered stations in nigeria by insisting that plants be built in their home states, even if the states do not have gas reserves. this means that after building the palnt, you have to run a gas pipeline, which may be even more expensive than the plant itself. this is extremely stupid, when you consider the fact that the plant could have been built by a gas resrevoir, and hooked up to the existing national grid. so right now, we have gas fired power stations , with no fuel to run them .

90% of engineering problems world wide ultimately come down to management decisions, which often value short term profits over long term stability. i posted a fire alarm design i did for our head office. rather than adopt that, mgt chose to refurbish the existing installation, which is over 10 years old and has been behaving erratically. last week, the recommisioned system gave 2 false alarms . me i just dey siddon look . let anybody come to disturb me, and i will whip out my dsign documents sharp sharp

if you are a technical person, you will shake your head at what the idiots in the senate keep spouting.

oyb:

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the problem with PHCN is not technical, it is political

in nigeria, you always have to contend with the agendas of the people disbursing the money. contractors who are really the proxies of govt officials are imposed on you - these guys will first eat half of the project money, then subcontract the rest out

the other day we had a discussion about how so many politicians have fked up gas powered stations in nigeria by insisting that plants be built in their home states, even if the states do not have gas reserves. this means that after building the palnt, you have to run a gas pipeline, which may be even more expensive than the plant itself. this is extremely stupid, when you consider the fact that the plant could have been built by a gas resrevoir, and hooked up to the existing national grid. so right now, we have gas fired power stations , with no fuel to run them .

90% of engineering problems world wide ultimately come down to management decisions, which often value short term profits over long term stability. i posted a fire alarm design i did for our head office. rather than adopt that, mgt chose to refurbish the existing installation, which is over 10 years old and has been behaving erratically. last week, the recommisioned system gave 2 false alarms . me i just dey siddon look . let anybody come to disturb me, and i will whip out my dsign documents sharp sharp

if you are a technical person, you will shake your head at what the idiots in the senate keep spouting.

Interesting facts, oyb.

So corruption is the foundation of everything in Nigeria

LOL, you think there's anyway you can introduce your design to international Engineer cooperation?Atleast you'd get paid for your design and get it recognized.

My!!1 I seriously can't work in Naija.

Exactly how different is Electrical Engineer from Nuclear and Radiolocal engineer (I know that the Radiological has to do with Medicine diagnosis and treatment), but I was at the workshop last week and they seemed pretty similar

Electrical Engineers help turn the energy generated from nuclear into power. (uranium>fission>steam>turbines>electricity>grid)

Nuclear Engineers help with the systems/applications used in nuclear power generation. (more of control engineering and a little bit of programming)

FL Gators:

Each day I keep changing my mind, based on new knowledge from each sector.
I don't have much time, yet I've not decided on which engineering I want to study.

I often wonder, why do we have so many aspiring Nigerian engineers/ Nigerian engineers, yet nothing has been done with PHCN or the ability to find ways to accumulate more electricity. You guys are engineers, you're suppose to "solve problems".
No wonder more women are wanted in the Engineering field , we must do everything right?

LOL.
Actually in Nigeria, as the private sector keeps moving forward, the government keeps moving backwards.
I mean, I'm always wired, have all the trappings of a modern exec, including blackberry and multiple credit cards, but still drive on the worst roads known to man, and haven't seen public electricity or water in a long while.

oyb:

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the problem with PHCN is not technical, it is political

errr. . .well when we're done fixing the political we'll still hv to fix the technical ones. . .so its still the same kettle of fish!

@ajanlekoko
e go better, at least u're still in lagos. . .

@all
i just got asked for my CV wrt IPP sturvs, but seeing as i dont have any working experience to speak of is it advisable for me to work?or should i go for an M.sc then get some experience before coming back to take a job?i hv 6 months plus of NYSC left to take a decision

netotse:

errr. . .well when we're done fixing the political we'll still hv to fix the technical ones. . .so its still the same kettle of fish!

Dear, of course there are technical problems, but we can't fix them if the politcal barriers continue to block development.

I even wonder if we have nuclear and radiological engineering programs in Nigeria.

AjanleKoko:

LOL.
Actually in Nigeria, as the private sector keeps moving forward, the government keeps moving backwards.
I mean, I'm always wired, have all the trappings of a modern exec, including blackberry and multiple credit cards, but still drive on the worst roads known to man, and haven't seen public electricity or water in a long while.

Yea, I know. I mean, every grant and Aids for development comes from the government

FL Gators:

Dear, of course there are technical problems, but we can't fix them if the politcal barriers continue to block development.

I even wonder if we have nuclear and radiological engineering programs in Nigeria.
Yea, I know. I mean, every grant and Aids for development comes from the government

ok darling, i was going to argue but u're right for most parts, the workers in PHCN are skilless and the management needs to face that in addition to the fact that they're overstaffed.

PHCN, jst got off a strike cos they want a 150% increase in basic salary(they didnt call it off they were taken to the IAP<----industrial arbitration panel), but the company makes like 7billion a month and most of it goes to salaries so there isnt much left for training and all and they now want an increase(of which they aren't even payed well to begin with)but the Gods honest truth is nobody does any work here sef. . .its all confusing, i dont know whose side to be on sef!

netotse:

ok darling, i was going to argue but u're right for most parts, the workers in PHCN are skilless and the management needs to face that in addition to the fact that they're overstaffed.

PHCN, jst got off a strike cos they want a 150% increase in basic salary(they didnt call it off they were taken to the IAP<----industrial arbitration panel), but the company makes like 7billion a month and most of it goes to salaries so there isnt much left for training and all and they now want an increase(of which they aren't even payed well to begin with)but the Gods honest truth is nobody does any work here sef. . .its all confusing, i dont know whose side to be on sef!

Interesting. Inu mi dun wipe oo argue pelu mi

So we have no methods of approaching the Govt for more grants and for justified use of those grants, but we do have the skills and knowledge to encroach onto the next step.

Sucks big time. So what exactly is the point of being an engineer in Nigeria?

FL Gators:

So we have no methods of approaching the Govt for more grants and for justified use of those grants, but we do have the skills and knowledge to encroach onto the next step.

Sucks big time. So what exactly is the point of being an engineer in Nigeria?

Well. . . for one thing, Nigeria needs engineers. Like I said earlier, the government and their aparatchik do suck big time, but there are private sector opportunities, lots of 'em. You need to look much more closely at the environment, to see what's happening.

Ten years ago, it sucked big time to be a telecom engineer in Nigeria. I was fresh out of uni then, and it was looking like there were absolutely no jobs. Now telecom has blown up big time, and there are huge opportunities for career dev and exposure like you could never have gotten in the old NITEL.

I would say to netotse, hang in there. Of course there is absolutely nothing going on in PHCN for now, just like it was in the old NITEL. But still try to learn all you can, and stay out of the political yarns. When GSM started, the NITEL boys were natural first pickings. When power does blow up, there will be nobody to pick from, than the young engineers who have some experience, be it PHCN, Siemens, ABB, or even T&E. I think there is even Oando Gas and Power sef. Who says opportunities no dey?

btw, I hear talk of a nuclear power plant in the works. Scary, actually. . .

netotse:

@all
i just got asked for my CV wrt IPP sturvs, but seeing as i dont have any working experience to speak of is it advisable for me to work?or should i go for an M.sc then get some experience before coming back to take a job?i hv 6 months plus of NYSC left to take a decision

Give it a shot, haba. You neva know. . .
At least after Msc, you get to still find work na. . .

oyb:

if you are a technical person, you will shake your head at what the idiots in the senate keep spouting.

What can I say? as the old saying goes. . . we have left governance in Nigeria to fools, so we will be bound by the foolish laws they make!

FL Gators:

Interesting facts, oyb.

So corruption is the foundation of everything in Nigeria

LOL, you think there's anyway you can introduce your design to international Engineer cooperation?Atleast you'd get paid for your design and get it recognized.

My!!1 I seriously can't work in Naija.

Exactly how different is Electrical Engineer from Nuclear and Radiolocal engineer (I know that the Radiological has to do with Medicine diagnosis and treatment), but I was at the workshop last week and they seemed pretty similar

  A nuclear physist is one who understand the nuclear reactions which generate the heat energy. A mechanical engineer converts the heat energy produced into mechanical energy using a turbine e.t.c. An electrical engineer (power) converts the mechanical energy into electrical energy and distribute it to the consumer. A nuclear engineer is trainned in some aspect of mechanical engineering, nuclear physics, chemical enginering and control enginering. they speciallises in the design of nuclear power plants, the safety invovles and the use of computers in the control mechanisms.

oyb:

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the problem with PHCN is not technical, it is political

in ,  shake your head at what the idiots in the senate keep spouting.

    this is the problem many nigerian engineers are facing. many nigerian engineers are intelligent and creative. but there are no opportunities to express oneself. many multinationals here and government are too rigid with their policies. they find it difficult to adapt to new changes and methodlogy. this is why the foreign countries kept advancing. researches are done and better ways of doing things are been adopted.therefore people should stop blaming nigerian engineers. if the design of oyb is unique and revolutional, how can this revolutionised the nigerian technology if it is not considered and left to rust away. this is the faith of many of our university projects that are left to rust away in the library e.t.c. how can we then grow?

AjanleKoko:

Well. . . for one thing, Nigeria needs engineers. Like I said earlier, the government and their aparatchik do suck big time, but there are private sector opportunities, lots of 'em. You need to look much more closely at the environment, to see what's happening.

Ten years ago, it sucked big time to be a telecom engineer in Nigeria. I was fresh out of uni then, and it was looking like there were absolutely no jobs. Now telecom has blown up big time, and there are huge opportunities for career dev and exposure like you could never have gotten in the old NITEL.

I would say to netotse, hang in there. Of course there is absolutely nothing going on in PHCN for now, just like it was in the old NITEL. But still try to learn all you can, and stay out of the political yarns. When GSM started, the NITEL boys were natural first pickings. When power does blow up, there will be nobody to pick from, than the young engineers who have some experience, be it PHCN, Siemens, ABB, or even T&E. I think there is even Oando Gas and Power sef. Who says opportunities no dey?

btw, I hear talk of a nuclear power plant in the works. Scary, actually. . .

Hmmmmm. I know I know, dear.
My heart is heavy for Naija's economy. The thing is, many of us soon to be graduates would love to come back home for graduate school. But then, we have a hard time convincing ourselves that going back home is worth it, that there are many job opportunities waiting for us back home or that the school is genuine or credible.

Would it be hard to open businesses at home that would offer many graduates jobs or stuff like that.
PHCN staffs are going on strike, if only Eng. can do the same But that won't solve anything now, would it?

Mind if I ask what type of Eng you are?

lekside44:

this is the problem many nigerian engineers are facing. many nigerian engineers are intelligent and creative. but there are no opportunities to express oneself. many multinationals here and government are too rigid with their policies. they find it difficult to adapt to new changes and methodlogy. this is why the foreign countries kept advancing. researches are done and better ways of doing things are been adopted.therefore people should stop blaming nigerian engineers. if the design of Oby is unique and revolutional, how can this revolutionised the nigerian technology if it is not considered and left to rust away. this is the faith of many of our university projects that are left to rust away in the library e.t.c. how can we then grow?

Hmm interesting.
Is there any way to defy your companies and actually go through with your development?
Rebellion CAN actually work. . . . oh maybe it's just my mind straying off into the sunset again.

lekside44:

A nuclear physist is one who understand the nuclear reactions which generate the heat energy. A mechanical engineer converts the heat energy produced into mechanical energy using a turbine e.t.c. An electrical engineer (power) converts the mechanical energy into electrical energy and distribute it to the consumer. A nuclear engineer is trained in some aspect of mechanical engineering, nuclear physics, chemical enginering and control enginering. they specialises in the design of nuclear power plants, the safety involves and the use of computers in the control mechanisms.

Thanks for the clarification. I knew this, but I was in that "phase" of confusion.


@Netotse
I just want you to know that you should give the job a try. You just never know.
Good luck

Na today I know the real reason why you ppl love electrical engineering.
OMG, I loff it. . . . .we did a lil programming and all that. . . .

@Ajenlekoko
Electrical engineering is not only about converting mechanical energy into electrical energy, B.T.W

errr first

FL Gators:

Na today I know the real reason why you ppl love electrical engineering.
OMG, I loff it. . . . .we did a lil programming and all that. . . .

@Ajenlekoko
Electrical engineering is not only about converting mechanical energy into electrical energy, B.T.W

@fl gators
lol. . .if there was anyone on this thread u'd need to tell that it'd be me(the last person'd be ajanlekoko), he's a telecomms pro(i'm sure when he graduated u were still writing in pencil). . .(come to think of it you're the youngest engineer here i hereby christen u 'baby engineer'). . .in fact, by royal decree anytime u want to talk to your elders u must first e-curtsy(how u acheive that is ur biz).

@all
thanks for the advice, i will now proceed to construct a CV where i will lie through my teeth (by that i mean using words like good motivator etc. . .)i'm sooo not looking forward to that task, can anyone give me tips?