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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:19am On Aug 28, 2015
PassingShot:

I will look for the document and present to you later. Maybe not 70% but you cannot argue that it was skewed in favour of SS and SE.

Besides, did where his appointees came from had any significant effect on his performance? His Otuoke community recently cried out for lack of potable water and other basic amenities?

Let me help you... https://www.nairaland.com/2429600/jonathans-appoinment-countering-deceit-some

I keep saying it, your problem with Jonathan has nothing to do with governance but bigotry and natural hatred...

Cc. SeverusSnape , Afam4eva :

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by mmsen: 12:22am On Aug 28, 2015
4Play:


I often find this sentiment profoundly silly not because I have much regard for PDP but because of what it reveals about Nigerians' lack of perspective. PDP came into power in 1999, the Nigeria of pre-1999 was an odious calamity. You often find people who either don't remember the Nigeria of those days or were kids/young at the time and had no real knowledge of the actual state of affairs then, basing their analysis on the notion that PDP is the root cause of our problem. They do so because PDP is all they have known in their adult life.

Nigeria was messed up before PDP was formed, therefore, what is wrong with Nigeria transcends PDP. This is a 55 year old country which has been dysfunctional from the beginning. You can keep deluding yourself that regurgitating political characters from the past, so long as they are not PDP, is the path to a new beginning but that is the height of self-deception. I predict that we will be dissapointed just as we have been for 55 years. In 8 years time, people who are infants or teens today will proclaim that our problem is mainly attributable to APC. We will never learn.

You speak the truth - Nigeria of 2014 was much better than the Nigeria of 1994 or 1984, I'm amazed at the number of people who seem unaware of this fact.

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:25am On Aug 28, 2015
PassingShot:

I will look for the document and present to you later. Maybe not 70% but you cannot argue that it was skewed in favour of SS and SE.

Besides, did where his appointees came from had any significant effect on his performance? His Otuoke community recently cried out for lack of potable water and other basic amenities?

Just like buhari has been governor, minister, head of state and now president but the ONLY federal university in his state was built by Jonathan and the federal road there was built also by Jonathan including over 21 almajiri schools there...

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:28am On Aug 28, 2015
Dhugal:

Section 14(3),as well as Third Schedule,Part IB 8(1),(2) &(3),totally tied him up on these ones as well.Thus far,he'd breached those sections of the Constitution with his appointments

Thanks bro...Can you plz provide full content of that part of constitution here too plz?
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:33am On Aug 28, 2015
Afam4eva:

Of course, THE FACT that you cannot present. But the fact still remains. Nigeria don suffer.

gringrin I love your line of argument but hate your initial write up...Allow for benefit of doubt in your write ups and don't generalize at all...
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by agabaI23(m): 12:35am On Aug 28, 2015
AZeD1:

I'm all for scrapping federal character.
That will be fine
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Dhugal: 12:40am On Aug 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


Thanks bro...Can you plz provide full content of that part of constitution here too plz?
14 (3) The composition of the Government of the Federation or any of its agencies and the conduct of its affairs shall be carried out in such a manner as to reflect the federal character of Nigeria and the need to promote national unity, and also to command national loyalty,thereby ensuring that there shall be no predominance of persons from a few State or from a few ethnic or other sectional groups in that Government or in any of
its agencies.

Section 8 of the Third Schedule,Part 1C establishing the FCC:

8. (1) In giving effect to the
provisions of section 14(3) and (4)
of this Constitution, the
Commission shall have the power
to:
(a) work out an equitable
formula subject to the
approval of the National
Assembly for the distribution
of all cadres of posts in the
public service of the
Federation and of the States,
the armed forces of the
Federation, the Nigeria Police
Force and other government
security agencies,
government owned
companies and parastatals of
the states;
(b) promote, monitor and
enforce compliance with the
principles of proportional
sharing of all bureaucratic,
economic, media and political
posts at all levels of
government;
(c) take such legal measures,
including the prosecution of
the head or staff of any
Ministry or government body
or agency which fails to
comply with any federal
character principle or
formula prescribed or
adopted by the Commission;
and
(d) carry out such other
functions as may be
conferred upon it by an Act
of the National Assembly.

(2) The posts mentioned in sub-
paragraph (1)(a) and (b) of this
paragraph shall include those of
the Permanent Secretaries,
Directors-General in Extra-
Ministerial Departments and
parastatals, Directors in
Ministries and Extra-Ministerial
Departments, senior military
officers, senior diplomatic posts
and managerial cadres in the
Federal and State parastatals,
bodies, agencies and institutions.

(3) Notwithstanding any
provision in any other law or
enactment, the Commission shall
ensure that every public
company or corporation reflects
the federal character in the
appointments of its directors
and senior management staff.
Modified:
It's Part 1C,not 1B.Pardon the mistake

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:46am On Aug 28, 2015
Dhugal:

14 (3) The composition of the Government of the Federation or any of its agencies and the conduct of its affairs shall be carried out in such a manner as to reflect the federal character of Nigeria and the need to promote national unity, and also to command national loyalty,thereby ensuring that there shall be no predominance of persons from a few State or from a few ethnic or other sectional groups in that Government or in any of
its agencies.
Section 8 of the Third Schedule is quite long,I'll post it's content later,modify this post,but it totally grounds and give effect to Section 14(3) as quoted above.

Thanks so much bro...I am grateful for this learning opportunity thanks to you...

Cc. Obiagelli, 4play, Passingshot, Afam4eva, SeverusSnape, agabaI23

Section 14(3),as well as Third Schedule,Part IB 8(1),(2) &(3),totally tied him up on these ones as well.Thus far,he'd breached those sections of the Constitution with his appointments

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Nobody: 12:51am On Aug 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


Thanks so much bro...I am grateful for this learning opportunity thanks to you...

Cc. Obiagelli, 4play, Passingshot, Afam4eva, SeverusSnape, agabaI23

Section 14(3),as well as Third Schedule,Part IB 8(1),(2) &(3),totally tied him up on these ones as well.Thus far,he'd breached those sections of the Constitution with his appointments

is it confirmed?
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by agabaI23(m): 12:51am On Aug 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


Thanks so much bro...I am grateful for this learning opportunity thanks to you...

Cc. Obiagelli, 4play, Passingshot, Afam4eva, SeverusSnape, agabaI23

Section 14(3),as well as Third Schedule,Part IB 8(1),(2) &(3),totally tied him up on these ones as well.Thus far,he'd breached those sections of the Constitution with his appointments
lol

No mind the man. Meanwhile he appointed the fence jumping Mr Kcow as his SA on NA....
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:56am On Aug 28, 2015
Dharniel:

is it confirmed?
Why not confirm it yourself?
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:57am On Aug 28, 2015
agabaI23:
lol

No mind the man. Meanwhile he appointed the fence jumping Mr Kcow as his SA on NA....

Can you get me a link of that his act...Network is frustrating me here...and lots of mention to reply too...biko bro
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by delors(m): 1:08am On Aug 28, 2015
Afam4eva:
This is not to cast any atom of doubt on Buhari's ability to lead and produce results after all, most of his opponents who were members of the electorate did not vote for him because they think he wont perform. Many of these people disliked him for the fact that they thought he was a tribalist and religious bigot. I personally paid no attention to what was flying around about Buhari pre-election, not necessarily because i thought what people were saying were lies but because those things could not be substantiated especially by me personally. So, i did what i have always done and that is to give people the benefit of the doubt. Personally, i felt Jonathan was a complete failure and thought we needed to try something different. Buhari may not have been my prefered choice out of the number of technocrats that i saw in APC but since he was presented, i kinda preferred him over Jonathan.

Now coming to the purpose of this thread. Doesn't it make some of us look stupid when it seems like Buhari is inching closer to the person they painted him to be. I mean, some Buhari supporters will make statements like "I don't care where the person Buhari appoints comes from as long as he is capable". Of course, statements such as these make people to sleep well at night and not look like complete idiots in the presence of people who would say "Didn't i warn you?". Anybody with an iota of common sense would see that this present dispensation has been riddled with an increase of Northern elements and it is glaring even to the blind. How do you explain the fact that after almost 20 appointments made so far. Only less than 5 are from the south. Not even a single person from the South-East has been appointed to any position. I know Igbos are the group of people we love to hate but this just isn't fair in my opinion. If you want to defend Buhari's pattern of appointments, i think your best bet would be to tell us how Southern Nigeria are so corrupt that it will be hard to find men of integrity or how the North boast of more educated individuals who are unrivaled.

In the spirit of giving Buhari, the benefit of the doubt, my 1 years grace period is still counting. After then, i'll have something to say about his government.
Truth be told, and this is my personal view, he could hand pick all his ministers or top shots from a tiny village in Sokoto, Yobe or Benue, it matters not. We only sing loud because we hear of all these appointments. If tomorrow he appoints an easterner or a southerner for d most seemingly important position, people will still cry fowl albeit a northerner for d most seemingly unimportant position?
Now, when GEJ was generously and blindly filling key positions with southerners, easterners n westerners, nobody said jack. We all know the results - total haphazard! Blatant disregard for public service! Gross incompetence! Woeful failures! Mass embezzlement!
Buhari as far as I can tell has been hand picking candidates based on useful Intel on d competence and integrity of the selected. I know all about federal character and the idiotic quota system but if the system is the root of decadence and failure, wouldn't it make sense to overhaul the system and inject new ideas? This is what I would do if I were Buhari because people who voted for me did so based on the fact and hope that I would not fail them, and as I can't rule the country myself, I will painstakingly select those who share my belief and passion for excellence to work with me.
I can't fault his appointments. No I can't and I won't.

#MyOwnOpinion

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by ManTiger(m): 1:08am On Aug 28, 2015
TheSonOfMark:
You expect well-ratiocinated explanations from Buhari's equally bigoted sycophants?
Here's what would happen:

*They'd invade this thread to post inciting comments instead of issue-based FACTUAL explanations devoid of overbearing sentimentality.

*Supporters of PDP would be forced to defend themselves.

*A free-for-all cussing polarized squabble would occur.

*When Buhari's sycophants realize the purpose of this thread has been defeated and they've successfully diverted attention from his glaring nepotism and bigotry, they'd desert this thread and move on to the next one to regurgitate the same cliched sentences.

Predictable lots.


Oops! By the way, I am a "Wailer"- a proud one at that. I suppose "wailing" for a better democracy is honourable.smiley
grin grin grin
Now if Pro Buhari run out of ideas, they simply quote you and say "Sai Baba"

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:09am On Aug 28, 2015
Obiagelli:

All I see here is corruption, corruption and more corruption. We clamor for a transparent nation yet we harbor corrupt intention.


We have a serious problem here...We are doing wrong diagnosis always...Nigeria is configured to fail notwithstanding who's incharge...

See an excerpt from an article I wrote last Sunday;

In fight against corruption; It should be noted here, that I am an apostle of Jonathan's proactive measure as shown in his yam & goat analogy as against Buhari's reactive measure of jail policy. Has armed robbery ended with all the jail terms meted to them? Why would treasury looting be any different? I am a candidate of Jonathan's school of thought that believes in building strong institutions as against Buhari's or APC knack for strong individuals. I believe just like Jonathan/PDP that Nigeria's challenge is more in the structure as against Buhari/APC's belief that it is in the faces. Those are my
creed.


Buhari anti-corruption noise would end up like Obj's...an instrument to intimidate opponents...

Restructure Nigeria today and see;
1)Our true population figure will emanate...

2)Innovative leaders will erupt as against lazy noise makers and treasury looters like Oshiomle, Rochas, Aregbesola, TA Orji, Suswam etc

3)Healthy competition will begin among regions...

4)Grassroots development will boom as against Abuja, & Lagos concentration of national wealth and attention...

5)Corruption will go as system becomes less bulky hence more susceptible to transparent & accountable leadership...

Cc Afam4eva, SeverusSnape, agabaI23

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:23am On Aug 28, 2015
Obiagelli:

My prayer is that we do away with federal character, while shouldn't the best bidder with the best package get contracts instead of federal character?

Most times we seek to become more Catholic than the pope...

You didn't answer the guys question... If Buhari cannot respect federal character, why would his appointees respect same?...

Its a truism that our federal civil service is already skewed in favour of North & SW...so why rub in the salt more?...The mere fact we scream "One Nigeria" shows we aren't one actually...

Will northerners have tolerated same if it were against them...

Remember one of my best Jonathan policies viz; PRESSID...North in NASS fought it from inception till Jonathan left office because they said federal character wasn't respected...This year's batch are stranded because Jonathan lost and buhari isn't ready to approve their stipends for them to travel out after the rigorous examination...

and you people are defending them today...smh...


Afam4eva, SeverusSnape, agabaI23

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Truckpusher(m): 1:27am On Aug 28, 2015
AZeD1:


Actually some people (including me) say we don't care because we actually don't care. Successive governments have used Federal character in their appointments and where has that gotten us to?
The only people who would care about where Buhari's appointees come from are politicians and illiterates.

We gave Buhari a 4 year mandate, how he goes about it should not be our problem as long as it is within the confines of the constitution.
Really ? And another 101 iidiots did gave you a like ?
Something is fundamentally wrong with this country.

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by francizy(m): 1:27am On Aug 28, 2015
4Play:


I often find this sentiment profoundly silly not because I have much regard for PDP but because of what it reveals about Nigerians' lack of perspective. PDP came into power in 1999, the Nigeria of pre-1999 was an odious calamity. You often find people who either don't remember the Nigeria of those days or were kids/young at the time and had no real knowledge of the actual state of affairs then, basing their analysis on the notion that PDP is the root cause of our problem. They do so because PDP is all they have known in their adult life.

Nigeria was messed up before PDP was formed, therefore, what is wrong with Nigeria transcends PDP. This is a 55 year old country which has been dysfunctional from the beginning. You can keep deluding yourself that regurgitating political characters from the past, so long as they are not PDP, is the path to a new beginning but that is the height of self-deception. I predict that we will be dissapointed just as we have been for 55 years. In 8 years time, people who are infants or teens today will proclaim that our problem is mainly attributable to APC. We will never learn.

A trillion likes for you. I actually stopped reading that nonsense you quoted at the first paragraph. The delusional being attributes new style of leadership to a new APC filled with the same ol, same ol, PDP stalwarts who they claimed destroyed the country. You see them mischieviously absorb Abacha, Babangida, Buhari, OBJ (of the military era) of the blames of plunging this country into its present irredeemable state while hipping all the blames on GEJ.

The fact we don't seem to get is that people in this country are diehard bigots and will always tow the line of bigotry even in politics. They are quick to ascribe all terrible names to the other divide, albeit hypocritically.

Nigeria will only keep going south (literally) till we all rise above our common enemies which are: bigotry, corruption, religious sentiments and violence, etc...

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:31am On Aug 28, 2015
PassingShot:
@OP, a mistake in your thread: PMB may not have appointed someone from the SE but Dr. Ibe Kachukwu, the GMD of NNPC is Igbo.

I am extremely disappointed and at the same time appreciates the character of the president. The personality that he sticks to his gun as far as he believes in what he's doing. Though this type of attribute, as it's strength, can also become weakness.

Having said that, these latest appointments cannot be justified on the ground of absence of competent and upright characters in the SS/SE/SW.

Did SW accept Olusegun Agangan as Lagos slot when he was appointed by Jonathan... Wasn't it why he came back and picked Obanikoro again?... How you people twist issues and change position like chameleon is disheartening really...

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by jidal14: 1:32am On Aug 28, 2015
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by porka: 1:33am On Aug 28, 2015
Obiagelli:

Pls explain why you worry where these people come from?

[size=13pt]Chapter II, Section 14(3) The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria

The composition of the Government of the Federation or any of its agencies and the conduct of its affairs shall be carried out in such a manner as to reflect the federal character of Nigeria and the need to promote national unity, and also to command national loyalty, thereby ensuring that there shall be no predominance of persons from a few State or from a few ethnic or other sectional groups in that Government or in any of its agencies.[/size]

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:35am On Aug 28, 2015
Truckpusher:
Really ? And another 101 iidiots did gave you a like ?
Something is fundamentally wrong with this country.

gringringrin I laughed so hard when I saw your comment ...I read his comment and when I saw the number of likes gannered...I went back to reread because I doubted if I got the meaning... I sighed after my second missionary journey on that comment...Lot of Nigerians are sick upstairs...

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by francizy(m): 1:38am On Aug 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


We have a serious problem here...We are doing wrong diagnosis always...Nigeria is configured to fail notwithstanding who's incharge...

See an excerpt from an article I wrote last Sunday;

In fight against corruption; It should be noted here, that I am an apostle of Jonathan's proactive measure as shown in his yam & goat analogy as against Buhari's reactive measure of jail policy. Has armed robbery ended with all the jail terms meted to them? Why would treasury looting be any different? I am a candidate of Jonathan's school of thought that believes in building strong institutions as against Buhari's or APC knack for strong individuals. I believe just like Jonathan/PDP that Nigeria's challenge is more in the structure as against Buhari/APC's belief that it is in the faces. Those are my
creed.


Buhari anti-corruption noise would end up like Obj's...an instrument to intimidate opponents...

Restructure Nigeria today and see;
1)Our true population figure will emanate...

2)Innovative leaders will erupt as against lazy noise makers and treasury looters like Oshiomle, Rochas, Aregbesola, TA Orji, Suswam etc

3)Healthy competition will begin among regions...

4)Grassroots development will boom as against Abuja, & Lagos concentration of national wealth and attention...

5)Corruption will go as system becomes less bulky hence more susceptible to transparent & accountable leadership...

Cc Afam4eva, SeverusSnape, agabaI23

Ever since May 29th, crime has quadrupled in Lagos. Wonder why Buhari's "body language" hasn't touched the security sector of the economy..

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by francizy(m): 1:41am On Aug 28, 2015
Truckpusher:
Really ? And another 101 iidiots did gave you a like ?
Something is fundamentally wrong with this country.

The number of idiöts are increasing per minute. Right now they are 112 in number... grin

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:48am On Aug 28, 2015
francizy:


Ever since May 29th, crime has quadrupled in Lagos. Wonder why Buhari's "body language" hasn't touched the security sector of the economy..

gringringringrin As in level of propaganda is nauseating... I wonder if he's using charm on his supporters...

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:49am On Aug 28, 2015
dhappyking:



Did he actually use those figures? That would add up to 102% just wondering how Presido arrived at the figures.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paLHi4ieE7A
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by AreaFada2: 1:49am On Aug 28, 2015
Afam4eva:



Now coming to the purpose of this thread. Doesn't it make some of us look stupid when it seems like Buhari is inching closer to the person they painted him to be. I mean, some Buhari supporters will make statements like "I don't care where the person Buhari appoints comes from as long as he is capable". Of course, statements such as these make people to sleep well at night and not look like complete idiots in the presence of people who would say "Didn't i warn you?". Anybody with an iota of common sense would see that this present dispensation has been riddled with an increase of Northern elements and it is glaring even to the blind. How do you explain the fact that after almost 20 appointments made so far. Only less than 5 are from the south. Not even a single person from the South-East has been appointed to any position. I know Igbos are the group of people we love to hate but this just isn't fair in my opinion. If you want to defend Buhari's pattern of appointments, i think your best bet would be to tell us how Southern Nigeria are so corrupt that it will be hard to find men of integrity or how the North boast of more educated individuals who are unrivaled.

In the spirit of giving Buhari, the benefit of the doubt, my 1 years grace period is still counting. After then, i'll have something to say about his government.
Ngwa-listic Afam Nwam, abeg wait for 365 days first. By then Tinubu & GMB fit don turn Tom & Jerry.
But my friend face "Amelica" jare. Na there be your place na. cheesy grin

People like me dey enjoy this chanji fa. Only those who expected something different will be disappointed. Another wasted 4 years ahead. Oh well, we have already wasted 55 years, what difference will it make. Just more cultists, armed robbers, rapists, more Boko victims, poorer schools, poorer health care and richer elite. You need no Nostradamus to see this.

Ride on General, no alarm for cause. grin cheesy

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Truckpusher(m): 1:50am On Aug 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


gringringrin I laughed so hard when I saw your comment ...I read his comment and when I saw the number of likes gannered...I went back to reread because I doubted if I got the meaning... I sighed after my second missionary journey on that comment...Lot of Nigerians are sick upstairs...
They are not sick, the message is loud and clear that some quarters of this country are the house negros and we are the field negros. grin
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Truckpusher(m): 1:51am On Aug 28, 2015
francizy:


The number of idiöts are increasing per minute. Right now they are 112 in number... grin
Who cares ? We have a date with destiny in this country.

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:52am On Aug 28, 2015
basilo101:

Ok, but he shud remember to remove federal character in the admission process into universities and unity schools, dats actually the place where the intellectually superiority has been fully ascertained tru a test or exam. appointments has not applied any kind of testing to decide who is beta, so i dnt understand the argument of competence here. Let the scraping of federal character start from the grass root


Olisa Agbakoba took them to court and won...but I don't know whether the implementation has taken off...

https://www.thecable.ng/landmark-ruling-lagos-court-puts-quota-system-federal-character-jeopardy
Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by porka: 1:58am On Aug 28, 2015
PassingShot:

A religious bigot that recently canceled govt's sponsorship of Hajj? A religious bigots who have probably equal number of Muslim and Xtian appointees in his govt so far?

Sure the appointments have clearly skewed in favour of North but was Jona termed an ethnic bigot when over 70% of his appointments were skewed in favour of the South?

I don't like these latest appointments but let's talk factually and responsibly.

[size=13pt]You forgot to mention that his first daughter is 'married' to a Christian man from Anambra State, or are they divorced now?

He 'canceled' government delegation to Hajj but approved N160/$1 exchange rate for pilgrimage.[/size]

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Re: Were People Right About Buhari? by AreaFada2: 2:00am On Aug 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


gringringringrin As in level of propaganda is nauseating... I wonder if he's using charm on his supporters...

No alarm for cause & no cause for alarm. By the time the Police Commissioner does some rounds of press up, they will remember GMB's body language and the combination will scare the poo out of those hardened Lagos bandits. grin

Maybe Atiku's marabouts/babalawos from Cameroun have been working for him too. cheesy

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