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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by OdenigboAroli(m): 5:12pm On Sep 04, 2015
Lol @ Igwe of Owerri.
Is there anything like that ?
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by OdenigboAroli(m): 5:18pm On Sep 04, 2015
DICK4UCKPUSSY:

Just one.?
But onitsha kingdom is linked to benin empire , and the name Obi (means parents) cos most of S.E monarchs re known as igwe..
What is the meaning of Obi in igbo language..?

Onicha once occupied some areas around Bini kingdom and Obi doesn't mean parents in Igbo. Igbos use both Obi, Eze, and Igwe.
And nobody pays Homage to Oba of Bini...and to say that is very disrespectful.

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by osymerga(m): 5:22pm On Sep 04, 2015
Ever heard of Eze Nri ? Go find out...
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by Nobody: 5:43pm On Sep 04, 2015
DICK4UCKPUSSY:
Have never heard of first class monarch in south east, just want to know if they exist in South east region..?

If by first class monarch, you mean a corrupt ex police man who threatens people from other states but depends on extortions and handouts from state governments, igbos don't have that.

If your first class monarch refers to emirs who colluded with imams to kill innocent citizens who don't belong to their faith and religion, igbos don't have that.

If your first class monarch means an oba or Alafia with many wives and children than he could remember who when he dies requires a live human to be buried with him or a successor who has to cannibalise and eat parts of a dead one...igbos don't have such.

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by Abagworo(m): 5:58pm On Sep 04, 2015
basilo101:
Not just in present SE but the whole of old Eastern region, tell me the king of Port harcourt, Calabar, Uyo etc?. we never practiced monarchy. democracy runs in our blood, dats why the white mans indirect rule failed woefully in the east. Both the administrative and economic structure are highly decentralized and ppl achieve social status by their own hardwrok and not the circumstances of birth

In Oguta we always had the Ezeigwe and many Igbo clans like Abiriba, Aro, Onitsha, Oguta, Aboh had solid monarchs before coming of Europeans but no empire existed.

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by Abagworo(m): 6:05pm On Sep 04, 2015
OdenigboAroli:


Onicha once occupied some areas around Bini kingdom and Obi doesn't mean parents in Igbo. Igbos use both Obi, Eze, and Igwe.
And nobody pays Homage to Oba of Bini...and to say that is very disrespectful.

The Igbo word for king is eze and not Igwe. Igwe means heavenly or divine and was used more as appraisal until it came to be a title. Ezeigwe means divine King. Obi is purely the symbolic name of the king and his authority. Eze Abagworo is Obi of Abagworoland and his palace is Obiabagworo and isi-obi of Abagworoland. When my subjects come to pay me homage they hail Igweee! in acknowledgement of my heavenly divinity and they say Eze igadi ndu ruo oge ebiebi which means may King Abagworo live long.

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by nwadiuko1(m): 6:31pm On Sep 04, 2015
What's the criteria for "first clasship"?
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by ahaz: 7:00pm On Sep 04, 2015
cybertyrant:
Igwe means king
Eze means ruler
Obi means house ( mind u that obi(in higher tone) meaning house, shrine, is different obi (in lower tone ) meaning capital,heart, center

The most influential first class ruler in the south east that can shake the state are
1- obi of onitsha from anambra
2-igwe of owerri from imo
3-igwe of ogui nike from enugu

Thats for SE

Then for SS and SE

1- obi of onitsha from anambra
2- obi of asaba from delta
3- obong of calabar from cross river
4- igwe of owerri from imo

These are the Top first class rulers that can shake a state.

Then i ask
1- what is the meaning of
Ooni
Oba
Allafin

Please i want to know, or ar u trying to start an e-war
in nija we have federal recognised first class kings and I'm Igbo land we have obi of Onitsha,and obi of asaba.but in igno traditional settings the most respected igno monarchs are igwe NRI,igwe awka,igwe nwarfor orizu of nnewi,igwe obosi,eze njemanze owere, one eze from mbaise,eze arochukwu and the one of ezeagu kingdom of enugu.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 7:09pm On Sep 04, 2015
cheruv:
All these riffraffs that love pokenosing into Igbo affairs..na wa oo


Go and check the number of bigotry posts made by your blodas on nairaland about other tribes. You will then know that your bodas are the chiefs of pocknosing. You are just being paid back in your own coin.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 7:11pm On Sep 04, 2015
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Obi of Asaba
Joseph Chike Edozien

Obi Prof. Joseph Chike Edozien, CFR, JP, the Asagba [1]

or traditional ruler of Asaba, Delta State, Nigeria was born on July 28, 1925 in Asaba. [2]

His father was Nathaniel Okafor Edozien a direct descendant of Nnebisi the founder of Asaba, and one of the most senior indigenous officials of the Nigerian Coal Corporation in Enugu. His mother, Nwakuso Edozien née Odogwu, was the daughter of a prominent Asaba chief, and a notable trader.

His father sent him at an early age to live with an uncle who was a school master in Warri, Delta State then Bendel State, Nigeria. He attended the Catholic School in Warri from 1933 to 1937. He attended Christ the Kings College, Onitsha for his secondary education from 1938 to 1942. In 1942 he attended the Higher College Yaba and then proceeded to Achimota School, Accra, Ghana.

His university education began with an admission to the University College Dublin, Ireland in 1944. He completed his BSc with honours in Physiology from the National University of Ireland in 1948, MSc in Physiology in 1950, Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Chemotherapy (MBBCh) in 1954. He won several academic awards in the process.

His academic career began with an appointment as a Lecturer in Clinical Biochemistry in Middlesex Hospital Medical School, University of London in 1951. In 1952 he was appointed as a Senior Lecturer in Chemical Pathology at the University College, Ibadan. He returned to Ibadan after further studies in Ireland.

In 1955 he married Modupe Smith a radiographer at the University of Ibadan teaching hospital. Her father was one of the first indigenous managers of the United Africa Company and her maternal grandfather was Herbert Macaulay, Nigeria’s first surveyor and one of the principal actors in Nigeria’s independence movement.

The late colonial and early independence period were exciting times in Nigeria. Educated Nigerians rapidly occupied positions of responsibility in politics, commerce and academia. Everyone’s hopes were high that in a short time the country would bridge the gap with the more developed countries of Europe and North America. The euphoric mood permeated the University of Ibadan, and Edozien’s groundbreaking research in nutrition helped win it a reputation as a rising academic centre. He was appointed a professor in 1961 and became the Dean of the Faculty of Medicine in 1962

Edozien’s career at Ibadan ended in 1967, a casualty of the political crisis that ended the euphoria of the late 50′s and early 60′s and resulted in the coups of 1966 and eventually led to the Nigerian Civil War. In 1967 he was instrumental in the efforts to establish the University of Benin in the newly created Midwestern Region of Nigeria. He was also implicated in the plots that resulted in the Biafran invasion of the Midwestern Region at the beginning of the civil war and was forced to flee the country.

After a period as a refugee in France, he was appointed as a professor of Nutrition at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA. In 1971 he became a professor and head of Department of Nutrition, of the School of Public Health of the University of North Carolina.

In 1990 Edozien was appointed the Chairman of the Nigerian Institute of Medical Research. Shortly thereafter he was selected to become the 13th Asagba of Asaba. He retired as a Professor Emeritus of the University of North Carolina and returned to Nigeria in 1991.

Edozien’s tenure as the Asagba of Asaba has coincided with dramatic changes in the character of the town. When the government of President Ibrahim Babangida created Delta State out of the old Bendel State, Asaba was chosen as the capital. Its new status as the seat of the state government has brought much of the chaotic development associated with contemporary Nigerian urbanization. The population of the town has grown and the influx of non-Asaba indigenes has strained the traditional institutions of the town.

A central theme of Edozien’s tenure as the Asagba has been the challenge balancing rapid development, modernization of traditional norms and institutions with preservation of the positive aspects and moderating influence of traditional values. Several on-going initiatives such as the Asaba permanent palace and civic centre and the documentation of the town’s traditional laws and customs have sought to balance these concerns.

Edozien remains an important figure in modern day Nigerian affairs. President Olusegun Obasanjo conferred the national honour of Commander of the Federal Republic on him in 2003. He is also the Chancellor of the Federal University of Agriculture, Abeokuta.
Any Yoruba monarch that beat his record?

Asaba is in delta state and asaba will never follow you to Biafra. We are talking of igwes that are first class kings. Bring them out if they exist.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 7:13pm On Sep 04, 2015
NOBLEDANDY:
op should give us an example of what he meant by first class monarch.
because I have not heard of that though am a prince.

Jeez! you must be backward in your part of the world not to know about monarchs gradings in Nigeria. The common primary school pupil in Yoruba land knows these things.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 7:15pm On Sep 04, 2015
post=37667264:
Obi of Onitsha
Background*
HRM. Igwe Nnaemeka Alfred Ugochukwu Achebe, CFR, MNI, serves as Senior Corporate Adviser of Shell International Company Limited, London. HRM. Achebe has a 30 year career within the Shell group of companies and held several top level managerial positions. He served as Managing Director of Diamond Bank Plc. He serves as the Chairman of Universal Insurance Ltd and Omak Maritime Ltd. He has been an Independent Non-Executive Chairman of Unilever Nigeria Plc since July 28, 2011. He served as Chairman of Diamond Bank Plc from January 2007 to December 31, 2014 and as its Director since 2005. He has been a Director of Unilever Nigeria Plc since March 2003 and serves as a Non-Executive Director of EER Norway Ltd. HRM. Achebe served as a Director of Regency Alliance Insurance Company Plc. He served as an Executive Director of Shell Petroleum Development Company from 1988 to 1996. In 2004, He was honoured by the Federal Government of Nigeria with the national merit award of Commander of the Order of the Federal Republic. HRM. Achebe holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Chemistry from Stanford University and a Master's in Business Administration from Columbia University.

Onitsha belongs to Benin kingdom. That is why their traditional ruler is obi and not igwe. Tell us about respectable first class igwes in imo, anambra, Enugu, and abia, that is, if they exist.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 7:18pm On Sep 04, 2015
cybertyrant:
Igwe means king
Eze means ruler
Obi means house ( mind u that obi(in higher tone) meaning house, shrine, is different obi (in lower tone ) meaning capital,heart, center

The most influential first class ruler in the south east that can shake the state are
1- obi of onitsha from anambra
2-igwe of owerri from imo
3-igwe of ogui nike from enugu

Thats for SE

Then for SS and SE

1- obi of onitsha from anambra
2- obi of asaba from delta
3- obong of calabar from cross river
4- igwe of owerri from imo

These are the Top first class rulers that can shake a state.

Then i ask
1- what is the meaning of
Ooni
Oba
Allafin

Please i want to know, or ar u trying to start an e-war
Alaafin means owner of the palace. It is the title adopted by the monarch in Oyo town. Oba means king. Ooni is the head of them all. All the kings in Yoruba land originated from the first ooni of Ife.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by cheruv: 7:20pm On Sep 04, 2015
wadetaw202:



Go and check the number of bigotry posts made by your blodas on nairaland about other tribes. You will then know that your bodas are the chiefs of pocknosing. You are just being paid back in your own coin.
I think you're a NL newbie..

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 7:20pm On Sep 04, 2015
kernel501:
Igbos are self oriented people, not traditional bound tribe.

Are you saying Igbo's have no tradition? Having no tradition is more or less like having no culture. Or what do you think?
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 7:21pm On Sep 04, 2015
cheruv:

I think you're a NL newbie..

No, you are the newbie. Your ignorance stands you out.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by juman(m): 7:26pm On Sep 04, 2015
Most of their kings are not traditional institution they were created by their governments.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by cheruv: 7:39pm On Sep 04, 2015
wadetaw202:


Asaba is in delta state and asaba will never follow you to Biafra. We are talking of igwes that are first class kings. Bring them out if they exist.
Asaba is the capital of Western Igboland while agbor is our westernmost "Iga"(fortress). The Western Igbos are our brothers, and just as we went to war due to their actions in 1966,we'd also go to war again for their sakes if they're prevented from joining the Biafran Empire!
In Igboland,the title for King is Eze..Obi is used for dukes of certain regions in Igboland while Igwe is the same as saying >your Majesty< cool
In Igboland,the most powerful kings are
1]EzeNri :> he's the spiritual king of Igboland
2]EzeAro :> he's considered the junior brother of the EzeNri and is the custodian of the long juju
3]Obi Onicha
4]Obi Aboh
5]Igwe Nnewi
6]Obi Agbor
7]Amanyanabo Opobo

These are the prominent Igbo trad. rulers that we've..contest the legitimacy of any of them at your own peril tongue

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by cheruv: 7:42pm On Sep 04, 2015
wadetaw202:


Are you saying Igbo's have no tradition? Having no tradition is more or less like having no culture. Or what do you think?
We're Republicans!
Our traditions are dynamic and we give no room for BS!

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by hoobs(m): 7:44pm On Sep 04, 2015
wadetaw202:

Alaafin means owner of the palace. It is the title adopted by the monarch in Oyo town. Oba means king. Ooni is the head of them all. All the kings in Yoruba land originated from the first ooni of Ife.
and why is Oba not a yoruba word??
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by cheruv: 7:45pm On Sep 04, 2015
wadetaw202:


No, you are the newbie. Your ignorance stands you out.
Of course am ignorant kos its honorable to bash the Igbos...pls don't forget to barge into the next Igbo thread you see onye apari! angry

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by kernel501: 7:50pm On Sep 04, 2015
wadetaw202:


Are you saying Igbo's have no tradition? Having no tradition is more or less like having no culture. Or what do you think?

It means they are less traditional minded, but goal oriented people.

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by pazienza(m): 8:08pm On Sep 04, 2015
Why people confuse Obi with Oba is beyond me, both of them have entirely different pronunciations and have no relationship whatsoever.

The Igbo word for King is Eze.

An Eze might just be addressed as Eze, or by other words signifying his authority.

Obi also called Obu in other Igbo dialects has different meanings in Igbo depending on pronunciation.

1. Obi= Heart
2.Obi = A kindred
3. Obi= A place of gathering for a town/village/kindred.
4. Obi= A male name, a shortened version of a longer name,eg Obiako, Obinze, Obinweze, Obiechina( May the kindred not go extinct), Obiefuna( a variant form of Obiechina, with both meaning the same thing).
Whenever you see an Igbo man with "Obi" as a surname, ask him for the full version of the name, Obi as a surname, like Chukwu, is always an abridged version of a longer name.

5. Obi = A title an Eze takes, indicating that he represents the will of the Obi( the kindred/village/ town) as the case might be, his palace also now becomes a place of gathering for the people.

6. Obi = A house in a man's compound, where he entertains his visitors. The Obi is often built away from the the living quarters and figuratively represents the man's strength/pride.

NB: We have Obi of Ora ifite, right in the heart of Anambra, in Ekwusigo LGA.

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by pazienza(m): 8:35pm On Sep 04, 2015
1. Igwe= Heaven, also eluigwe meaning high heavens.
2. Igwe= A god that has powers to control Igwe( heaven) Igwe is said to be greater than ala/ani/ana/Ali( the earth. goddess) this is represented in the saying " Igwekala".

3. Igwe = A name an Eze is addressed by, indicating that his right to rule is ordained by the heavens and the god thereof.

4. Igwe= An Igbo surname, often an abridged version of long list of names eg, Igwegbunam, Ukaigwe( Igwe's word) a name often given to children whose parents conceived via help from chief priests of Igwekala shrine, etc.

5. Igwe= Metal

6. Igwe = bicycle.

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by pazienza(m): 8:47pm On Sep 04, 2015
Well, that's my understanding of Obi and Igwe as applied to Ezes in Igboland.

Eze is the Igbo word for the English word, king.

In summary, a king can be called any other name in Igboland, but he still remains and is addressed as an Eze. Even this truth holds in borderlands of Igboland, for example in Abriba, the Enachioke is the Eze of Abriba, in Igbanke, the Enochies are the Ezes.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 10:23pm On Sep 04, 2015
kernel501:


It means they are less traditional minded, but goal oriented people.
Goal oriented? Like younger ones not showing respect to elders, is that the kind of goal you are talking about? Like kids not minding selling their souls and even their parents for money, is that your idea of goal orientation?
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 10:30pm On Sep 04, 2015
cheruv:

Of course am ignorant kos its honorable to bash the Igbos...pls don't forget to barge into the next Igbo thread you see onye apari! angry

Igbo's have been bashing nigeria since you established your Biafra radio of hate. So, Igbo's are more guilty of bashing others. So, I don't understand why you are crying wolf here as if you are the victim; you are a actually the villain. So stop crying here like a berieved fooool and face the music. It is the seed of bashing you have sown that you are now reaping.

Did you ever have the opportunity to check ojukwu's head when he was alive? Then, you would have gotten the perfect understanding of who an apari is. Have you seen osho baba's head lately? Ojukwu's own was worse than that. I am sure ojukwu would have been called Hammer Head of Rock or Headward when he was in secondary school.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 10:31pm On Sep 04, 2015
hoobs:
and why is Oba not a yoruba word??

The word oba is a pure Yoruba word. It simple means king in translation.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 10:33pm On Sep 04, 2015
cheruv:

We're Republicans!
Our traditions are dynamic and we give no room for BS!

Yeah, you are so dynamic that yuou can carry cocaine today, sell your organ tomorrow, do 419 the next, all because you think the substance of a man is in how much money he has.
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by wadetaw202: 10:38pm On Sep 04, 2015
cheruv:

Asaba is the capital of Western Igboland while agbor is our westernmost "Iga"(fortress). The Western Igbos are our brothers, and just as we went to war due to their actions in 1966,we'd also go to war again for their sakes if they're prevented from joining the Biafran Empire!
In Igboland,the title for King is Eze..Obi is used for dukes of certain regions in Igboland while Igwe is the same as saying >your Majesty< cool
In Igboland,the most powerful kings are
1]EzeNri :> he's the spiritual king of Igboland
2]EzeAro :> he's considered the junior brother of the EzeNri and is the custodian of the long juju
3]Obi Onicha
4]Obi Aboh
5]Igwe Nnewi
6]Obi Agbor
7]Amanyanabo Opobo

These are the prominent Igbo trad. rulers that we've..contest the legitimacy of any of them at your own peril tongue

See how this flaaaathead shot himself in the leg. Shebi you Igbo's say you are not diabolical. How come you are having spiritual head and head of long juju? Sebi you claim only Yoruba's do juju? Are you saying you were lying and just beating empty chest all along?
Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by cheruv: 11:03pm On Sep 04, 2015
wadetaw202:


Igbo's have been bashing nigeria since you established your Biafra radio of hate. So, Igbo's are more guilty of bashing others. So, I don't understand why you are crying wolf here as if you are the victim; you are a actually the villain. So stop crying here like a berieved fooool and face the music. It is the seed of bashing you have sown that you are now reaping.

Did you ever have the opportunity to check ojukwu's head when he was alive? Then, you would have gotten the perfect understanding of who an apari is. Have you seen osho baba's head lately? Ojukwu's own was worse than that. I am sure ojukwu would have been called Hammer Head of Rock or Headward when he was in secondary school
The white man who tried that was given a dirty slap by Ojukwu as far back as 1944..by then your fathers were still trying each other with juju while dodging the white man grin

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Re: Do First Class Monarch Exist In South East..? by cheruv: 11:05pm On Sep 04, 2015
wadetaw202:


Yeah, you are so dynamic that yuou can carry cocaine today, sell your organ tomorrow, do 419 the next, all because you think the substance of a man is in how much money he has.
The dangers of a single story grin

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