ademoladeji:


Yeah! A registered Engineer

Demmzy15:

Happy for you, we're still struggling sha!

ademoladeji:


Thanks bro. You'll get there in no time

It's a steady process bro.... I can give you a guide whneva needed

Bro please gimme o! I really need it o, I'm going to 300lv and my CGPA is on 3.23,i was playful in 100lv

Demmzy15:

Bro please gimme o! I really need it o, I'm going to 300lv and my CGPA is on 3.23,i was playful in 100lv

ademoladeji:


First n foremost, your GP isn't thru test of your ability n intelligence buh then try as much as possible to get to a minimum of 3.50 (2nd class upper)

This is because most multinationals prefer 2.1 grads as well as our locals.

In complement, try to develop/learn some engineering packages as you progress at least b4 you graduate. Packages like autoCAD, Revit Mechanical, StaadPro/Prokon for steel design... You cld learn mechanical service design for buildings, steel tank design for liquid storage (petrol, diesel, water etc), water reticulation system and design, piping network for industries...

My brother, I must congratulate you to have chosen Engineering as profession. We are so dynamic, intelligent, and skillful.

With all these, money will be looking for you.

You can stand on your own with your laptop as your mobile Office.

Do not forget to always seek God's blessings and guidance

asamaigho:


lemme tell u,d civil engineer can change the architects drawing if such drawings are structurally unattainable,...stop saying what u dont know.

for d op, civil engineering is far more than building houses as this is the least part of civil engineering.

architecture basically is more of an artistic course,while civil engineering has to do more with structural analysis,design and construction of anything ranging from buildings,roads,bridges,dams,stadia,mast,cofferdams to aircrafts and ships.

Emyben:



Have you been jailed before? Go tamper with an Architects sealed drawing and rot in jail. The Architect has the monopoly of his drawings... If he doesnt agree to any alteration, you just have to keep working harder or keep pleading harder.

If you are learned... You would know that even in the literary field, you dont tamper with an academicians work.

asamaigho:


in a building project, three things are important,the forth one was recently added for mega projects.
1. structural stability
2.cost
3.aesthetics
4.environmental impact assesment(especially for mega project)
i smh,.....is my post so complex to understand?
anyway let me make more clearer,a building cannot be constructed until it is certified to have meet the engineers requirements as concerning structural stability.
architects are limited to aesthetics and nothing more.....while d engineer is involved with the remaining,so u make use of reasoning properly before u compare an architect(artist) to an engineer.

Emyben:



Have you been jailed before? Go tamper with an Architects sealed drawing and rot in jail. The Architect has the monopoly of his drawings... If he doesnt agree to any alteration, you just have to keep working harder or keep pleading harder.

If you are learned... You would know that even in the literary field, you dont tamper with an academicians work.

Emyben:



You said the engineer can alter the drawings of the architect. I had to disagree with you because the Architect has the monopoly of his drawings. Nobody tampers with it or build otherwise without his permission else the offender goes to jail. Dont forget the Architect is the leader of the building team and wield the most powers immediately after of course the chief financier who is the client. He is there from the brief conception to the commissionig and handing over of the project whereas the Civil Engineer isnt. He supervises and directs the civil engineer to make sure he doesnt deviate from his drawings. He is the mouthpiece of the client and in medium scaled projects serves as the project manager. Go and read about the BUILDING TEAM.

The above criteria you listed, the structural engineer is only relevant in Structural stability while the Architect is relevant in all of the above. He considers cost, considers aesthetics, considers the structure of his building and puts into consideration environmental impact assessment as he does a feasibility study of the brief before designing.

I hope i educated you a bit on few of the numerous roles of an architects. And please, you'v got to know that this is an educative argument, dont tell me to use my reasoning properly as i wasnt insane making my earlier comment. Try to be civilised in your addresses. Thanks

asamaigho:



pardon my spellins incase...please once again i have no intention to ridicle ur profession or ur person.

reading tru ur post makes me laff.
the following can be deduced from ur writeup,corect me if am wrong.
1.dat architects wield powers?....if i may ask,powers to do what?
2.he supervises an direct d engineer? gosh, u can do beta dan dis na,abi na poly u for gragde,dont u know that the main working drawing of a building project is the structural drawings(which indicates the sizes and positions of beams and columns).
3.u said the architect determines cost and i begin to wonder how he will know the quantity of reinforcements and volume of concrete,since his drawing excludes the listed as there are no columns and beams in his drawing.
4.talking about environmental assesment,i wonder u know dat environmental and sanitary eng is a part of civil eng,just like structural eng,transport eng,geotech.
5. if u see a proper architectural plan,u will notice in detail were it states dat some items are 'to be determined by the engineer'
.
finally i will advice u to go d extra mile to seek proper knowledge on civil eng,this will help u alot.
do ur self a favor of going tru the following links.

I LOVE ARCHITECTURE,BUT
AM PROUD TO BE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER.
http://www.careerigniter.com/questions/what-is-the-difference-between-architecture-and-civil-engineering/

http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-civil-engineering-and-architecture/

http://civilengineersforum.com/difference-between-architect-and-civil-engineer/

Demmzy15:

Egbon thank you, but where do you work?

ademoladeji:


Bros, I work with a water engineering and wastewater management company... We are also into construction

Abimloaded:
[b]Architecture! Architecture!! Architecture!!!

WHY ? Architecture is the best professional course you can ever study. Architects are the Second God because we create what we conceive !

WHICH COURSE IS LIKE UNTO THEE,
ARCHITECTURE? In school they see us
as the most hard working, simply because
ARCHITECTURE keeps us up most
nights. After school, while graduates of other professions
chase
after job vacancies, we tell Job Vacancies how much we
wish to be paid
if they want us to work for them, just because we are
ARCHITECTS. 1st
class? 2nd class? They are all brilliant. But an
ARCHITECT with a Pass
degree will keep you & your wife as staff in his office,
and on salary
- just because he is an ARCHITECTS. Even if we wish
not to work with
anybody, the jobs come right down to our door steps,
just because we
are ARCHITECTS. And while sitting at home, we make
an average of
100,000naira monthly because we are ARCHITECTS,
you think that's
simple? Then resign from your job and try sitting at
home for 4 days
if you ain't one; call me on phone when you've got
airtime. We can
even make an average of 30-40,000naira every 6days
by simply teaching
people softwares we know in ARCHITECTURE or being
involved in
architectural visualization, just because we are
ARCHITECTS. And for
simply scrambling a collection of lines on paper (which
70% of the
world's professors cannot interpret/read), we get paid;
just because
we are ARCHITECTS. We determine if your hometown/
village will find
development, just because we are ARCHITECTS. Those
skyscrapers and
famous buildings you have promised yourself to visit
before you die,
we built them, because we are ARCHITECTS. For
showing you what your
dream house will look like, we get paid even if you
eventually don't
afford to build it, simply because we are ARCHITECTS.
We do not need
CNN and the NTA Network News to tell people what we
do, every single
house we've designed does all the talking, because we are
ARCHITECTS.
The only profession where you work less (literally,
because you
dictate when to work) but earn more -
ARCHITECTURE. The only
profession that allows you to begin your day by 11am
every single day
but earn more than those who work 29hours (+5 ghost
hours) a day.

#TeamArchitecture
#TeamCreativity[/b]

Demmzy15:
Bros that's nice o and you're well paid?

ademoladeji:


I'm very okay with my take home

Demmzy15:

That's nice, Goodluck! Anyway, I'll email you if I need any help, hope you don't mind?

ademoladeji:


No problem brov... We're brodas

Abimloaded:
[b]Architecture! Architecture!! Architecture!!!

WHY ? Architecture is the best professional course you can ever study. Architects are the Second God because we create what we conceive !

WHICH COURSE IS LIKE UNTO THEE,
ARCHITECTURE? In school they see us
as the most hard working, simply because
ARCHITECTURE keeps us up most
nights. After school, while graduates of other professions
chase
after job vacancies, we tell Job Vacancies how much we
wish to be paid
if they want us to work for them, just because we are
ARCHITECTS. 1st
class? 2nd class? They are all brilliant. But an
ARCHITECT with a Pass
degree will keep you & your wife as staff in his office,
and on salary
- just because he is an ARCHITECTS. Even if we wish
not to work with
anybody, the jobs come right down to our door steps,
just because we
are ARCHITECTS. And while sitting at home, we make
an average of
100,000naira monthly because we are ARCHITECTS,
you think that's
simple? Then resign from your job and try sitting at
home for 4 days
if you ain't one; call me on phone when you've got
airtime. We can
even make an average of 30-40,000naira every 6days
by simply teaching
people softwares we know in ARCHITECTURE or being
involved in
architectural visualization, just because we are
ARCHITECTS. And for
simply scrambling a collection of lines on paper (which
70% of the
world's professors cannot interpret/read), we get paid;
just because
we are ARCHITECTS. We determine if your hometown/
village will find
development, just because we are ARCHITECTS. Those
skyscrapers and
famous buildings you have promised yourself to visit
before you die,
we built them, because we are ARCHITECTS. For
showing you what your
dream house will look like, we get paid even if you
eventually don't
afford to build it, simply because we are ARCHITECTS.
We do not need
CNN and the NTA Network News to tell people what we
do, every single
house we've designed does all the talking, because we are
ARCHITECTS.
The only profession where you work less (literally,
because you
dictate when to work) but earn more -
ARCHITECTURE. The only
profession that allows you to begin your day by 11am
every single day
but earn more than those who work 29hours (+5 ghost
hours) a day.

#TeamArchitecture
#TeamCreativity[/b]

asamaigho:


in a building project, three things are important,the forth one was recently added for mega projects.
1. structural stability
2.cost
3.aesthetics
4.environmental impact assesment(especially for mega project)
i smh,.....is my post so complex to understand?
anyway let me make more clearer,a building cannot be constructed until it is certified to have meet the engineers requirements as concerning structural stability.
architects are limited to aesthetics and nothing more.....while d engineer is involved with the remaining,so u make use of reasoning properly before u compare an architect(artist) to an engineer.

BRAINCRASH:
OP....If you believe in creativity and great imaginations I advise you to read architecture......
......To be candid the study of Architecture in Nigeria is very tough though when you work hard in school you come out versatile......I am An Architect but I have basic Knowledge of every aspects and dynamics in construction....so also a Civil engineer has basic knowledge in Architectural drawings...In as much as Civil Engineering is vast I Know also that Architecture is vast.....You don't need to be very good in drawings before you become an Architect,....but you must be ready to: -CRACK YOUR BRAIN,
-THINK HARDER THAN OTHERS BEYOND THE USE OF FORMULAR,
- UNDERSTAND BUSINESS STRATEGY.
-BECOME A MANAGER
......My friend You can get lucrative employment from both .......but I think you're more of an Architect.
By getting confused alone tells me you'll make it as an Architect.....Ask me why....
For posting your question here is another prove you'll be good at presentation...and marketing of idea...
Your patience to read all posts and comments proves you'll be patient and dogged enough to actualize your designs....
My Engineer friends respect me more than their colleagues....its nothing to be proud of anyway....but let me conclude by saying these:

Architects understand history.
Architects enjoy life
Architects understand nature...people...activities..etc.
Architects are smart people....the think faster...they think beyond logic...and the see what others cant see.
..............We give other professionals templates with which they work.

ba7man:
If i tell a structural engineer that I don't want to see any Column for a span of 100m, if he tells me it's not possible, I'll change him.

No one tampers with my designs.


Propose increased beam depths, change structural elements from concrete to steel, change building materials, reduce loading, introduce extra support but dont touch my design.

It's only cost implication that can cause me to back down.

ademoladeji:


No problem brov... We're brodas

Mznaett:


Please sir,for a simply supported slab for a room size of 3mX4.5m as per direction of reinforcement, what type of slab will come? 1>way or 2>way slab? Thanks

ademoladeji:


It's a two-way slab....

Mznaett:


Thanks sir!

But what is the condition attached when calculating the bending reinforcement (K value -member stiffness)
K=m/fcu.b.d.d
And K<0.156?

ademoladeji:

Both are okay....
The first is just a way to get the accurate K value.
K=M/(fcu*b*d^2)