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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by 009(m): 7:46am On Sep 10, 2015
Specialist900:
True talk bro. One needs to find something to do atleast. The rate at which masters degree holders look for job these days without finding is a cause of serious concern.

Just, DO SOMETHING
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 7:52am On Sep 10, 2015
TheMatrix3:


"...how to get a job.." Thats the greatest undoing of the average graduate and thats whats killing this country and the same thing the OP is talking about. Its good to get a job, dont get @dearpreye wrong, getting a job is good but its a means to an end not an end in itself. #CreateJobs #ThinkOutOfTheJob #ThinkOutOfTheBox #CreateValueAndGetPAid #LifeIsNotFair #ButLifeIsGood #

@op please I'd do you a direct message, you encourage ppl like me to go further

Oh, thanks for taking the time to explain my message to the person you quoted. There's NOTHING more to add.

Good morning, and do have a great day
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Richal20(m): 8:23am On Sep 10, 2015
dearpreye:
Good afternoon, everyone.

I'm writing tthis due to two reasons. There's a thread on FP where someone's said sometimes he almost regretted going to school. I'll post the link to that thread later. Also, a few days ago, maybe even over a week ago, a friend of mine sent me a text message as early as 6 am, complaining how joblessness has been frustrating him. In the message, he claimed he was about to go into depression and that I should advise him.

My friend and I have come all the way through the same secondary school back in Lagos. He later went to read Marine Engineering from UST, Port Harcourt, the same city where I now work. I called and spoke at length with him. He saw my points. And it's some o these points I'm now sharing here.

A wrong Reason For Going To school!

A vast majority of us believe that the sole aim for going to acquire a degree or some other higher qualifications is to secure a job. That's a terrible mindset! It's the most inappropriate reason for undertaking a challenging process like getting a degree. I used to think that way too. But I was fortunate to have read Rich Dad, Poor Dad and other inspirational books during my ND days. From those books it became clear I was in school to reduce my ignorance and to increase my capacity for usefulness.

When you have a wrong mindset like this, you set up yourself for frustration when the job doesn't come at the right time. It creates tension, envy, depression and may even lead to a suicide. But when you have the right mindset, it prepares you for the challenges ahead, and may force you into doing or learning other skills that may prove invaluable in the future. We didn't go to school for the sole purpose of getting a job. It was a mindset sold us by the society and our parents, but we have to change it. NOW!

The World Doesn't Owe You A Job!

This was the second point I discussed with my friend. My dad told me how jobs were waited for them even before they finished school. That time don pass! A few top politician may achieve that for their fortunate kids, but the vast majority of us knew before hand that that won't be our case. With that belief, we have set up ourselves for unnecessary tension and frustration. The world doesn't owe you a job. The system doesn't owe you a job. You've got to go and fight for your place. You've got to hustle and create a niche for yourself.

Your Degree Isn't A Guarantee For Success!

We need to change our mindset about a lot of things. I never doubted the fact I was going to secure a job after my higher Institution but I also knew my certificate isn't necessarily a guarantee for a job. In fact, I had gone to Lagos hustling with my fishing boat and wood engine boat when I got a letter for my aptitude test. I was still reading and making the necessary contacts as I was paddling my canoe. My hatred for poverty and lack was so great I wasn't even willing to narrow down my success to a paper- a degree/certificate. People saw me as I took my engine and boat to hustle opposite the Nigeria Ports Authority in Lagos, moving passengers from the villages to Apapa township. I didn't bother. I knew it was temporary. But in between when I would secure that dream job, I couldn't ask my parents for money. They've done their best.

I was always prepared for any aptitude test. I had a lot of past oil and gas questions and answers. I never failed to browse relevant sites. I was able to pass the aptitude test, the oral interview and landed the proverbial dream job. I give Him all the glory.

To all those believing Him for a great job, do not pass this moment complaining and whining; they will only lead to chaos and disaster. Look for something SMALL to do. Start small little. Just do something.

There's no free meal anywhere anymore. Don't let that degree prevent you from taking up that cleaning job. Don't let it stop you from taking that security job. It's all a process. Don't let your degree stand in your way. Your degree is supposed to give you a PLATFORM from which you could shoot into any angle and area. Why allow it to become a hindrance to you? Opportunities abound; open your eyes.

Till date I keep learning new skills. There's NO job security anywhere. I'm always conscious of the future. I'm not relenting. I'm not carried away by the little pleasure of the moment. I've got TOMORROW in view.

Change your mindset, and you've changed your life.

The world owes you NOTHING! Forthwith, get busy and believe God for that mega paying job.

Wishing you all a successful career. Thank you!

Lalasticlala, please move this message to the appropriate quarters!

this msg needs to be given to people from cross river,rivers and delta states because this boys are lazy die

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Richal20(m): 8:30am On Sep 10, 2015
Kachisbarbie:
The world doesn't owe you a job.
Very salient point. The so called 'illiterates' have realised and understood this point since ages, yet the self-acclaimed 'literates' have refused to.


true and they are still forming educated

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by dfrost: 8:31am On Sep 10, 2015
[quote author=dearpreye post=37831433][/quote]

dearpreye since you no invite me for this delicious and exquisite thread, I won't comment until you apologize.

Thanks VickyRotex for sharing.

dearpreye, I'm waiting for you... *Hulk Mode Activated *

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Richal20(m): 8:32am On Sep 10, 2015
The truth is that Those self acclaimed literates are so annoying that they see unemployment as an excuse

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 8:39am On Sep 10, 2015
dfrost:


dearpreye since you no invite me for this delicious and exquisite thread, I won't comment until you apologize.

Thanks VickyRotex for sharing.

dearpreye, I'm waiting for you... *Hulk Mode Activated *

What I did is hard to forgive. In fact it's treason LOL!

Once again, I'm sorry. Deeply sorry. I mean it.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by dfrost: 8:45am On Sep 10, 2015
Observant:
At the moment I am applying to vocational schools to learn a skill in machinery and equipment overhaul and maintenance .

Observant I'm with you on this. The reason why most of us (graduates) are suffering is because we have no vocational skills. Imagine if we spent every Saturday while in school, learning how to make button holes, cutting shirts, designing badges, making chemicals to enrich our African hair to withstand the heat, et al. The point is the list is endless.

I sincerely believe that there is always a need for something in any community we find ourselves in.

It's not too late though. We can make a difference now in order to alleviate the pains that our young ones and wards will face in the future.

Nice thread dearpreye. Nice post Observant. Wonderful contributions from all.

This thread make sense die. No tribal war for once on NL. Good to see that.

VickyRotex thanks once again for the invite. You are one in a zillion kiss

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by dfrost: 8:52am On Sep 10, 2015
dearpreye:


What I did is hard to forgive. In fact it's treason LOL!

Once again, I'm sorry. Deeply sorry. I mean it.

No shakes man. Apology accepted. I've already commented. The vex no reach my oesophagus.

We need to really help our young ones. They really need love and guidance, honestly.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 8:58am On Sep 10, 2015
dearpreye:


That's some great but brief story.

It just seems people must first misunderstand or a most hinder us whenever we want to take the bull by the horn. I'm happy you knew what you wanted and went for it.

Keep the passion burning. See you at the top.

You can email me a crate of Orijin this morning.

Hope you had a great night rest?


Oh yes I did and even overslept...

No Oga to fire me for excessive sleep, and daily bread is sure already.

Orijin dey freezer, when you come around rumuokoro, pls holla.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 8:59am On Sep 10, 2015
2sex:
proud of you bro. Na 2sexy dey hail u. We fight on!


Anyhow e be, even if na sex2 or sextu, I go know my guy...

Hope you're doing great, been a while bro, na aso rock you dey now?
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 9:00am On Sep 10, 2015
dfrost:


Observant I'm with you on this. The reason why most of us (graduates) are suffering is because we have no vocational skills. Imagine if we spent every Saturday while in school, learning how to make button holes, cutting shirts, designing badges, making chemicals to enrich our African hair to withstand the heat, et al. The point is the list is endless.

I sincerely believe that there is always a need for something in any community we find ourselves in.

It's not too late though. We can make a difference now in order to alleviate the pains that our young ones and wards will face in the future.

Nice thread dearpreye. Nice post Observant. Wonderful contributions from all.

This thread make sense die. No tribal war for once on NL. Good to see that.

VickyRotex thanks once again for the invite. You are one in a zillion kiss


The comment from Observant is epic and awakening. I've read it over and over again. It's truism is beyond contest and it's verity beyond debate.

VickyRotex is an enigma. She's a huge blessing to us who have interacted with her on a few occasions. I'm still sorry I didn't mention you though your contribution is also very much spot on.

Thanks for the accolades. Oftentimes I create threads with the humble purpose of educating or sharing some points with a few people here BUT on all cases I've been further humbled by the voices of wisdom and knowledge that flow towards me from people here. We're a blessed people.

Yes. In EVERY place there are huge opportunities merely waiting our recognition but we hardly see them because our school system didn't teach us that recognise them. We're only taught to seek jobs. Terrible! Remember Think and Grow Rich?

In summary, we must learn a skill or two. Anything other than that is to take a huge risk- one that may prove too costly in the fast approaching FUTURE. He who fails to plan has......PLANNED to fail.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by dfrost: 9:03am On Sep 10, 2015
nochildsplay:
Guy delete your account on here if don't have a point to enlighten us with G for Goat

Nice one nochildsplay. Sometimes I don't comment because before you know it, low IQ minions will hijack the thread and spammers will hit a well-meaning thread like this one.

What has this thread got to do with the President now.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 9:03am On Sep 10, 2015
Imanuelle:



Oh yes I did and even overslept...

No Oga to fire me for excessive sleep, and daily bread is sure already.

Orijin dey freezer, when you come around rumuokoro, pls holla.

See your first two lines. What confidence. What freedom. What responsibility!

Me dey Woji dey rest.....off duty things.

Meanwhile, I'll collect them whenever I'm ready; and thanks for contributing to the issue at hand.

Have a blessed day sir.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 9:06am On Sep 10, 2015
dearpreye:


See your first two lines. What confidence. What freedom. What responsibility!

Me dey Woji dey rest.....off duty things.

Meanwhile, I'll collect them whenever I'm ready; and thanks for contributing to the issue at hand.

Have a blessed day sir.

You're welcome bro.

Great topic!

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by stanvesco(m): 9:08am On Sep 10, 2015
dearpreye:


Amen. And may He bless you in equal measures.

And may your experiment abundance in your endeavours. Never forget that failure isn't any more an option. We must make it but with a changed mind.

Good morning!

thanks bro,
God help us all

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 9:09am On Sep 10, 2015
Imanuelle:


You're welcome bro.

Great topic!

Thanks for contributing. Your comments made it even greater. Thanks.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 9:10am On Sep 10, 2015
stanvesco:


thanks bro,
God help us all

Amen. Do have a great day, and thanks for joining the thread. I'm grateful for all your comments.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by 2sex(m): 9:14am On Sep 10, 2015
Imanuelle:



Anyhow e be, even if na sex2 or sextu, I go know my guy...

Hope you're doing great, been a while bro, na aso rock you dey now?
hahahha... Aso rock ke. Abeg I don lost ur number. Make I call you. PM me abeg.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by dfrost: 9:28am On Sep 10, 2015
Velocitron:
Best thread ever!

You nailed it Velocitron. One of the best threads on NL.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Osemond123(m): 9:30am On Sep 10, 2015
Empredboy:
Op u are spot on. I had knew I wouldn't work under anyone cos I fear the word "sack" cos that might be the time u will need some money to finance some projects. I am a proud graduate from the king of all University in Nigeria OAU, a member Institute of chartered account of Nigeria (ICAN). But these certificates I had them cos my parents wanted a degree holder. But me I had wanted to be self employed. To God be the glory since I graduated in 2005 I have been running my biz. So guys don't look for white collar job but save money so that u too can start your own business
nice idea. just wish i have known this all this while.....
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 9:33am On Sep 10, 2015
dfrost:


No shakes man. Apology accepted. I've already commented. The vex no reach my oesophagus.

We need to really help our young ones. They really need love and guidance, honestly.

Thanks bro.

Yes. In the spirit of compassion and love, it's our DUTY to educate and enlighten our younger ones. Failure to do will come back to hurt us too. It's a DUTY!

I've already started doing that. I spoke to some youths weeks ago about LIVING WITH TOMORROW IN VIEW! And many of them were blessed.

And it's exactly the reason thinking of part time lecturing.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Vanije: 9:40am On Sep 10, 2015
People need to focus more on acquiring practical skills, the trend the world is heading to is :it's more about Qualification (that is what you can do) than Certification(what the paper says you can do)
People don't realize this fact that's why a lot of youths end up being 'bored' with life.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by NizyO01(f): 9:44am On Sep 10, 2015
A million likes for this....I hardly make comments on threads but this really caught my attention,we young pple have to stop thinking like it's our birth right to get jobs after graduating,certificate isn't an authomatic guarantee for a job,we have to do something no matter how low we think it is pending when u get something better,afterall what pride are u holding unto when u have nothing,or better still get a passion and develop on it every time u spend waiting is another time wasted.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by MrDoGood(m): 9:55am On Sep 10, 2015
EmekaBlue:
even those odds fail sometimes bro...xpecially when u stake alot to recover loses embarassed
No matter what, don’t try to recover your loss from a single stake.
You can't afford to loose straight 3 games back to back when you stake with reasonable amount of money and with little odd like 5

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by VickyRotex(f): 10:20am On Sep 10, 2015
dfrost:


dearpreye since you no invite me for this delicious and exquisite thread, I won't comment until you apologize.

Thanks VickyRotex for sharing.

dearpreye, I'm waiting for you... *Hulk Mode Activated *

cheesy dfrost, you're welcome smiley

Forgive dearpreye wink
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by VickyRotex(f): 10:23am On Sep 10, 2015
dfrost:


Observant I'm with you on this. The reason why most of us (graduates) are suffering is because we have no vocational skills. Imagine if we spent every Saturday while in school, learning how to make button holes, cutting shirts, designing badges, making chemicals to enrich our African hair to withstand the heat, et al. The point is the list is endless.

I sincerely believe that there is always a need for something in any community we find ourselves in.

It's not too late though. We can make a difference now in order to alleviate the pains that our young ones and wards will face in the future.

Nice thread dearpreye. Nice post Observant. Wonderful contributions from all.

This thread make sense die. No tribal war for once on NL. Good to see that.

VickyRotex thanks once again for the invite. You are one in a zillion kiss


Lol. I'm Honoured! You're very much welcome.

I can't just let go of nice posts. So I had to share.

Nice point you have there dfrost.

It's really not too to make ammendments. Better late than NEVER! cool
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 10:26am On Sep 10, 2015
VickyRotex:


cheesy dfrost, you're welcome smiley

Forgive dearpreye wink

Hahha! He's already done that. Thanks for bringing him down here.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by VickyRotex(f): 10:32am On Sep 10, 2015
dearpreye:


The comment from Observant is epic and awakening. I've read it over and over again. It's truism is beyond contest and it's verity beyond debate.

VickyRotex is an enigma. She's a huge blessing to us who have interacted with her on a few occasions. I'm still sorry I didn't mention you though your contribution is also very much spot on.

Thanks for the accolades. Oftentimes I create threads with the humble purpose of educating or sharing some points with a few people here BUT on all cases I've been further humbled by the voices of wisdom and knowledge that flow towards me from people here. We're a blessed people.

Yes. In EVERY place there are huge opportunities merely waiting our recognition but we hardly see them because our school system didn't teach us that recognise them. We're only taught to seek jobs. Terrible! Remember Think and Grow Rich?

In summary, we must learn a skill or two. Anything other than that is to take a huge risk- one that may prove too costly in the fast approaching FUTURE. He who fails to plan has......PLANNED to fail.

I'm honoured dearpreye. You're a huge blessing aswel.

God bless you immeasurably.

Nice thread, Nice comments, Beautiful follow-up by you.

Many thanks to the NYSC Skills and entrepreneurship development board. They've been of great benefits to many youths. I'm a living testimony!

However, the awareness for skills development and self dependency should keep growing, we still have a long way to go, but we ought to keep moving.

Have a Blessed day dearpreye!

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by VickyRotex(f): 10:33am On Sep 10, 2015
dearpreye:


Hahha! He's already done that. Thanks for bringing him down here.

Oh Good!!! cheesy

You're welcome! smiley

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 10:35am On Sep 10, 2015
Vanije:
People need to focus more on acquiring practical skills, the trend the world is heading to is :it's more about Qualification (that is what you can do) than Certification(what the paper says you can do)
People don't realize this fact that's why a lot of youths end up being 'bored' with life.


That's some great comment up there. I think the blame should go to the system and those who designed it in such a manner as to only produce job seekers instead job providers.

However, since everyone is solely responsible for their lives, they cannot keep blaming the system. They must see the system for it is, decide what to do as to better their lives. No more excuses!

When I discussed this topic with some undergraduate students at a federal university, they couldn't believe it. The system never taught us this. It never taught me this. I found it out as I sought books on personal development and capacity building.

Thanks for contributing to the thread. Shalom!
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 10:38am On Sep 10, 2015
VickyRotex:


I'm honoured dearpreye. You're a huge blessing aswel.

God bless you immeasurably.

Nice thread, Nice comments, Beautiful follow-up by you.

Many thanks to the NYSC Skills and entrepreneurship development board. They've been of great benefits to many youths. I'm a living testimony!

However, the awareness for skills development and self dependency should keep growing, we still have a long way to go, but we ought to keep moving.

Have a Blessed day dearpreye!


You have this easy flow with words. It's a gift.

Thanks for the kind words.

Yes. We will keep moving and motivating aright the few folks we can. We're all involved with humanity.

Do have a wonderful day as well.

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