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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 1:49pm On Sep 09, 2015
cooljr:
God bless you my brother.. Nice write up

God bless you too. It's time to ACT, if we've not been doing that. Failure is too expensive.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 1:49pm On Sep 09, 2015
Just put it like this, "THE WORLD OWES YOU NOTHING, THEN YOU WOULD NEVER BE DIS-APPOINTED AND NEVER LET WHAT OTHERS SAY HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON YOU."

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by dumisami: 1:51pm On Sep 09, 2015
Yes, this is true but if you work hard and read you a lot of books you will have succes. This is the patern to success.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 1:52pm On Sep 09, 2015
dumisami:
Yes, this is true but if you work hard and read you a lot of books you will have succes. This is the patern to success.
work hard?
I think not.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by francizy(m): 1:55pm On Sep 09, 2015
Nice one bro.

As far as am concerned, if my business can guarantee me an average of 5k per day in income while I still pay myself some monthly salary, am OK. All I have to do is build on the business and ensure it grows. Getting a paid job is not my priority right now but creating jobs.

Coys know that millions are out there looking for job so they don't even care about the next hired person working his arse off. Just the other day, Zenit let off 1,200 workers but yet, you'd still see people queuing up for jobs.

The economy is crazy so don't wait for jobs to feed your babies..

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 1:58pm On Sep 09, 2015
ok...

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by yooglodotcom: 1:58pm On Sep 09, 2015
Money comes as a result of problem solved except for charity.

Find a problem and solve it then demand commensurate money for it. You must not be stuck with the 'medicine' you studied if every problems within your reach has been solved. There are many problems everywhere no one is interested in solving; reach out with dignity to solve one.

You never know how many you will later employ if the solution is properly packaged and effectively sold.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by 400billionman: 1:59pm On Sep 09, 2015
Bluetooth2:


People are afraid of competition so they use their inability to get a job to undermine the importance of education. If education doesn't guarantee success, how many illiterates do you see in NNPC, CBN, JP Morgan, Apple, Exxonmobil, MTN , Etiisalat and other blue chip companies around the world.

If you have a degree, it only gives you an edge over an ignorant when it comes to job opportunities but if such person cannot compete in the midst of available vacancy, then frustration sets in. You can't get a good job anywhere especially abroad without a degree.

The first day you enter school in a country like Nigeria, you should start planning how to get a job.

I guess you work with a bluechip company and that makes you feel that everyone does. Guy, it may just be 2% Nigerian workers who are in such employment . That does not serve the requirement for majority.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 1:59pm On Sep 09, 2015
francizy:
Nice one bro.

As far as am concerned, if my business can guarantee me an average of 5k per day in income while I still pay myself some monthly salary, am OK. All I have to do is build on the business and ensure it grows. Getting a paid job is not my priority right now but creating jobs.

Coys know that millions are out there looking for job so they don't even care about the next hired person working his arse off. Just the other day, Zenit let off 1,200 workers but yet, you'd still see people queuing up for jobs.

The economy is crazy so don't wait for jobs to feed your babies..

You've surely got the great mindset sir. The economy is truly crazy, and kids no send you- they must feed. Not funny.

Man, everyone's got to start thinking outside the box.

Thanks for your contribution.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by bamac(m): 2:02pm On Sep 09, 2015
Well, i think at times you need a job to finance your improvisation. But the improvisation must come first then if a job comes which will serve as engine room for the improvised work plenty should be done to sustain and upgrade the improvised job rather than depending on the secured job which might fail anytime. But depending on getting a job without trying to improvise can kill faster than HIV.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by francizy(m): 2:03pm On Sep 09, 2015
dearpreye:


You've surely got the great mindset sir. The economy is truly crazy, and kids no send you- they must feed. Not funny.

Man, everyone's got to start thinking outside the box.

Thanks for your contribution.

Welcome. We suppose discuss something oh. This threads just reminded me.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by 400billionman: 2:05pm On Sep 09, 2015
abbey621:
Back in 2004 as a second year Computer Science student, I came across past graduates of the department still looking for work, even those with first class. I looked at our syllabus and realized most of the content were not applicable in the real world. The highest programming language learnt was C++ and JAVA was introduced as a mini course. I decided there and then that I would develop myself outside of the school. I started following a local computer repair guy, he taught me how to take apart a computer, upgrade it and put it back. He taught me about networking cables, software and so on., I liked it so much that I built my own personal computer from spare parts. I lost complete interest in schooling as the knowledge gained from the real world was far more valuable. I managed to graduate with a 2.2 and as God would have it relocated abroad. It was while abroad that I realized just how valuable the skills I've learnt really were. Suddenly I had access to plenty of recycled parts, I was able to drive on the streets and pick up abandoned laptops, computers, accessories and so on., I started fixing the laptops and selling them on Ebay, the unexpected income was more than enough to sponsor me for a second bachelor's degree and my MBA. The lesson here is that Nigerian education is nothing if you can't apply it in the real world. Just because you pay for education doesn't mean it will be valuable. Sometimes you must look beyond your comfort zone and explore as no knowledge is ever wasted!

Interesting..

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:07pm On Sep 09, 2015
francizy:


Welcome. We suppose discuss something oh. This threads just reminded me.

That's good. I dey ground wella!
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by francizy(m): 2:09pm On Sep 09, 2015
dearpreye:


That's good. I dey ground wella!

You dey whatsapp?

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:10pm On Sep 09, 2015
Forix4u, your attention is needed here; it was your thread that inspired this thread. Thank you!
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by godunaiya: 2:10pm On Sep 09, 2015
In my opinion, education bring light to your path, but it takes more than education, you've got to be more proactive, and follow trends of events and development. Get more skills and try to be creative. Create jobs, don't look for one. It's all in you.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:10pm On Sep 09, 2015
francizy:


You dey whatsapp?

Sure......
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:11pm On Sep 09, 2015
godunaiya:
In my opinion, education bring light to your path, but it takes more than education, you've got to be more proactive, and follow trends of events and development. Get more skills and try to be creative. Create jobs, don't look for one. It's all in you.

Thank you. I'm happy you contributed to this thread.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Akanaz(m): 2:11pm On Sep 09, 2015
Nice write up dude.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:12pm On Sep 09, 2015
Akanaz:
Nice write up dude.

Thanks. We've got all it takes to make it.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:14pm On Sep 09, 2015
Best thread ever!

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by bummyla(m): 2:17pm On Sep 09, 2015
well said Bros! http://www.bummyla.com

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:19pm On Sep 09, 2015
preye this is so timely and true...coupled with the fact we've had to contend with poor and bad governance for a long while...one needs to learn a skill to complement degrees attained from higher institutions..But i think preye in some way we still need the help of the government in this...we need a good playing ground to foster skill acquisition and hands on activities that will in turn help many make a good living...we need constant electricity..we need good roads...we need the basics...the country needs to be so good that university education becomes exclusive to only a few persons...i don tire abeg... wink

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by VickyRotex(f): 2:19pm On Sep 09, 2015
dearpreye:


Coming from someone I deeply respect. Thank you!

smiley You're welcome. Maximum Respect! cool

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Observant: 2:23pm On Sep 09, 2015
We have an education that trains you to be depend on the system, sadly the education it self is outdated and time wasting.

After seeing the uselessness of my B.Eng, I knew applying for a Masters degree would be another waste of my time. At the moment I am applying to vocational schools to learn a skill in machinery and equipment overhaul and maintenance .

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:24pm On Sep 09, 2015
VickyRotex:


smiley You're welcome. Maximum Respect! cool

Thank you. Do have a fulfilling day.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:28pm On Sep 09, 2015
Velocitron:
Best thread ever!

I very much doubt that oooo, but thanks for the compliment. Together we all can make it BIG, though sometimes we must start very small.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by ndcide(m): 2:30pm On Sep 09, 2015
Then why did we vote for buhari?

One of it was to create and provide jobs.

Was this job reason not one of the reasons we kicked out Jonathan?

Abeg at least Buhari owes us the responsibility of fulfilling his promise on jobs.
A promise is a debt he OWES.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:33pm On Sep 09, 2015
IzonOwei:
preye this is so timely and true...coupled with the fact we've had to contend with poor and bad governance for a long while...one needs to learn a skill to complement degrees attained from higher institutions..But i think preye in some way we still need the help of the government in this...we need a good playing ground to foster skill acquisition and hands on activities that will in turn help many make a good living...we need constant electricity..we need good roads...we need the basics...the country needs to be so good that university education becomes exclusive to only a few persons...i don tire abeg... wink

Bro, it's a bigger struggle seeing we don't have an enabling environment. Wetin we go do? We may not even have stable power in the next full decade! We can't keep waiting on these folks in government. They don't care about us.....what shall we do then? We need to sit up and work smart.
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:34pm On Sep 09, 2015
ndcide:
Then why did we vote for buhari?

One of it was to create and provide jobs.

Was this job reason not one of the reasons we kicked out Jonathan?

Abeg at least Buhari owes us the responsibility of fulfilling his promise on jobs.
A promise is a debt he OWES.

Hahaha! PMB can't give everyone a job. But everyone must eat. What do we do? Wait eternally?
Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by Nobody: 2:35pm On Sep 09, 2015
dearpreye:
Good afternoon, everyone.

I'm writing tthis due to two reasons. There's a thread on FP where someone's said sometimes he almost regretted going to school. I'll post the link to that thread later. Also, a few days ago, maybe even over a week ago, a friend of mine sent me a text message as early as 6 am, complaining how joblessness has been frustrating him. In the message, he claimed he was about to go into depression and that I should advise him.

My friend and I have come all the way through the same secondary school back in Lagos. He later went to read Marine Engineering from UST, Port Harcourt, the same city where I now work. I called and spoke at length with him. He saw my points. And it's some o these points I'm now sharing here.

A wrong Reason For Going To school!

A vast majority of us believe that the sole aim for going to acquire a degree or some other higher qualifications is to secure a job. That's a terrible mindset! It's the most inappropriate reason for undertaking a challenging process like getting a degree. I used to think that way too. But I was fortunate to have read Rich Dad, Poor Dad and other inspirational books during my ND days. From those books it became clear I was in school to reduce my ignorance and to increase my capacity for usefulness.

When you have a wrong mindset like this, you set up yourself for frustration when the job doesn't come at the right time. It creates tension, envy, depression and may even lead to a suicide. But when you have the right mindset, it prepares you for the challenges ahead, and may force you into doing or learning other skills that may prove invaluable in the future. We didn't go to school for the sole purpose of getting a job. It was a mindset sold us by the society and our parents, but we have to change it. NOW!

The World Doesn't Owe You A Job!

This was the second point I discussed with my friend. My dad told me how jobs were waited for them even before they finished school. That time don pass! A few top politician may achieve that for their fortunate kids, but the vast majority of us knew before hand that that won't be our case. With that belief, we have set up ourselves for unnecessary tension and frustration. The world doesn't owe you a job. The system doesn't owe you a job. You've got to go and fight for your place. You've got to hustle and create a niche for yourself.

Your Degree Isn't A Guarantee For Success!

We need to change our mindset about a lot of things. I never doubted the fact I was going to secure a job after my higher Institution but I also knew my certificate isn't necessarily a guarantee for a job. In fact, I had gone to Lagos hustling with my fishing boat and wood engine boat when I got a letter for my aptitude test. I was still reading and making the necessary contacts as I was paddling my canoe. My hatred for poverty and lack was so great I wasn't even willing to narrow down my success to a paper- a degree/certificate. People saw me as I took my engine and boat to hustle opposite the Nigeria Ports Authority in Lagos, moving passengers from the villages to Apapa township. I didn't bother. I knew it was temporary. But in between when I would secure that dream job, I couldn't ask my parents for money. They've done their best.

I was always prepared for any aptitude test. I had a lot of past oil and gas questions and answers. I never failed to browse relevant sites. I was able to pass the aptitude test, the oral interview and landed the proverbial dream job. I give Him all the glory.

To all those believing Him for a great job, do not pass this moment complaining and whining; they will only lead to chaos and disaster. Look for something SMALL to do. Start small little. Just do something.

There's no free meal anywhere anymore. Don't let that degree prevent you from taking up that cleaning job. Don't let it stop you from taking that security job. It's all a process. Don't let your degree stand in your way. Your degree is supposed to give you a PLATFORM from which you could shoot into any angle and area. Why allow it to become a hindrance to you? Opportunities abound; open your eyes.

Till date I keep learning new skills. There's NO job security anywhere. I'm always conscious of the future. I'm not relenting. I'm not carried away by the little pleasure of the moment. I've got TOMORROW in view.

Change your mindset, and you've changed your life.

The world owes you NOTHING! Forthwith, get busy and believe God for that mega paying job.

Wishing you all a successful career. Thank you!

Lalasticlala, please move this message to the appropriate quarters!


I owe you one bottle of anything.

When I started my hustle, some of my classmates were mocking me on our WhatsApp group...

Right now, I'm not at the top, but they're asking I carry them along.

Imperfect me.

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Re: When Your Degree No Longer Guarantees Success! by micronut(m): 2:39pm On Sep 09, 2015
dearpreye:


Coming from someone I deeply respect. Thank you!

dearpreye! You have written this piece excellently well. It's concise and aptly mind blowing.... I read it and read all over gain, i have always had a mindset of creating something, cause have been blessed with loads of Entrepreneurial ideas. Many have identified the spirit in me and have encouraged me not to look back, while some other have seen my move as a mere noise making.. But then i remain undeterred, When i finished with a 2.1 degree in biochemistry and decided an MBA school is my next point of call, many of my classmates and lecturers started calling me names... Today am not regretting this path, even when have not been earning a living myself, but am pretty sure, i would come out with something worthwhile soon.

I wrote this piece https://www.nairaland.com/2378227/self-employment-real-stomach-infrastructure sometimes ago, i had recieved more accolades and mockery from folks too, especially the percieved "Salary better grads", who feels the noise about self employment and encouragement is an empty noise to demonize the salary work, which i have evidently clarified. Coming here to see contributions from Truckpusher, you and loads of other great minds on this platform is a great moral booster. Let me say have never had it better on nairaland than today, am impressed. God bless you real Good.

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