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Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by truthman2012(m): 2:33pm On Oct 09, 2015 |
aminusanti: Lol!!! Your last paragraph: ....''We SHOW them PROOF.... What proof is there in the quran? Show me one. We are unbelievers in the religion brought by the Devil named islam. No room for islam in God's plan of salvation. Matthew 24:14 says ''And this GOSPEL of the kingdom will be preached in the WHOLE WORLD as a testimony to all NATIONS, and then THE END WILL COME'' That was Jesus statement about 650 years before Muhammad. The world was not expecting islam as the GOSPEL is expected to be preached till the END of the world. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by aminusanti(m): 4:43pm On Oct 09, 2015 |
truthman2012: Mr Man you are still unaware Jesus was a Muslim and his religion was Islam in every sense but it wont make any sense to you as your heart is sealed... Both Jesus(PBUH) and Muhammad(PBUH) and all other prophets teach nothing but islam, they carried essentially the same message: Islam, that is, monotheism and submission to the will and guidance of God. However, the details were not identical, but varied to cope with the time and nation addressed. While Jesus (peace be upon him) was sent specifically to the Israelites, Muhammad (peace be upon him) was sent to all humanity. This was emphasized by Jesus as well: [But he answered and said, ‘I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.’] (Matthew 15:24) In contrast, the Quran declares the universal message of Islam. Jesus prophesized the coming prophet whose universal message will stay forever: [And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— ] (John 14:16) We have also seen that the utterances of Jesus have been supportive of and predicting about the rise of Muhammad (pbuh), and through him the belief Islam and the believing nation of Muslims, to which his followers are required to join. In John 16: 12 & 13, Jesus says: “I have yet many things to say unto you, but you cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth; ” Many things that Jesus would have liked to tell his followers have not been told to them, not because Jesus did not know them, but only because his followers were not ready to bear them at that time: “..... but you cannot bear them now.” When Jesus (pbuh) states “you cannot bear them now”, it only refers to his followers and does not include himself, because he did not say: “WE cannot bear them now”. Since Jesus didn't count himself among them in this matter, it means he was ready to bear them: the guidance that the expected prophet will bring. He was aware of them and he was ready to bear them. But did he follow in action what he knew and was ready for? Yes. He did much of what a Muslim would do and is expected to do. In fact, this begins to happen even while he anticipates arrest by the Roman rulers. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by truthman2012(m): 6:01pm On Oct 09, 2015 |
aminusanti: I don't want to talk again about Muhammad in the bible because it had been trashed many times on this forum. You are yet to tell me the proof you were talking about in your earlier post. I have gone through the quran, nothing like proof of islam in it other than orders to kill infidels. I noticed you didn't comment on Mat. 24:14 that nullifies the coming of islam as God expects only the Gospel to be preached till the end of the world. Who then sent Muhammad, definitely not the God of the Bible. If Jesus was a muslim, how come He didn't mention Ishmael and Kaaba, which had been in existence before He came? If Abraham truly built Kaaba, would Jesus not have visited there as the resort for mankind? Friend, stop deceiving yourself. Would Jesus prophesy the coming of Muhammad, who islamic allahh used to return humanity to idol worship in the name of God. Everything you are doing in islam today were what idolaters were doing. When did Yahweh turn to an idol that is worshiped islamically? Go through this link and let me have your comments: https://www.nairaland.com/2644778/islam-meccans-religions-before-it 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Visitor700: 1:49am On Oct 10, 2015 |
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Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by aminusanti(m): 2:17am On Oct 10, 2015 |
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Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Annunaki(m): 6:10am On Oct 10, 2015 |
aminusanti: Please show me this proof so I can convert to islam |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by aminusanti(m): 7:40am On Oct 10, 2015 |
Annunaki:Seek proper knowledge with open mind |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by truthman2012(m): 7:48am On Oct 10, 2015 |
aminusanti:Dodging!!! You have no proof at all. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by adullam210: 9:20am On Oct 10, 2015 |
truthman2012:Yes, really not easy to get out! Can you Imagine a sane and learned person referring to a highway robber, a womaniser, a child molester, a murderer, a liar and so on, as a prophet and the best man ever? The darkness on the hearts of the followers of this false prophet is very thick! God open their eyes. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Annunaki(m): 10:02am On Oct 10, 2015 |
aminusanti: Why don't you teach me this proper knowledge. adullam210: Abi oh it beats my imagination how sane people would accept the prophethood of such a notorious criminal 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by neocortex: 10:40am On Oct 10, 2015 |
Ajibam: You mean the Jewish Idol called Yahweh ? An idol that was docile while his temple was been desecrated by "Heathens" and his people carried into slavery is as powerful as a fish on the land. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by neocortex: 10:57am On Oct 10, 2015 |
Visitor700: You are either ignorant of Hadith and the Sira or you are deliberately lying. Here are the killings sanctioned/ordered by prophet Muhamed, you shouldn't be ashamed of what the role model for humanity did in his days. Asma' bint Marwan - Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Alla Ka'b ibn al-Ashraf - Sahih Bukhari 5:59:369, Sahih Bukhari 5:59:369 Abu Rafi' ibn Abi Al-Huqaiq - Sahih Bukhari 4:52:264, Sahih Bukhari 5:59:370, Sahih Bukhari 5:59:371, Sahih Bukhari 5:59:372 Al-Harith bin Suwayd al-Ansari - Qur'an 3:86-88[40][39] ,Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah Abu Sufyan - Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community And the list goes on. |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Annunaki(m): 11:28am On Oct 10, 2015 |
neocortex: Fixed also thanks for acknowledging that a lot of muslims are ashamed of what that pathetic m0ron you label a prophet did in his days. |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by neocortex: 11:36am On Oct 10, 2015 |
Annunaki: I didn't address my post to you, it was for that Islamic faithful. He will understand my message better than you. BTW, are you a christian ? |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Annunaki(m): 11:46am On Oct 10, 2015 |
neocortex: Well your describing such a vile character as the role model for humanity was offensive to me as a human being, if you had limited it to 'the role model for muslims' I wouldn't have been bothered but even then most muslims are better human beings than mohamed was. As per my religion, I am an annunaki |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by neocortex: 11:56am On Oct 10, 2015 |
Annunaki: It is your moniker that made me asked because I initially thought you are one of the christians who are too ashamed to associate with their faith. As to the role model for humanity, that is what the muslims believe and that is why every of a muslim action is expected to mirror that of the prophet. Even though you described him as a vile character, he did achieve greatness for his people , because for the first time in Arab history, they had a central figure and a religion to rally round. That is a great feat if you ask me. |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by truthman2012(m): 12:36pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
neocortex: Why did allahh save Jesus from death and allowed Muhammad to die of poison? 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by neocortex: 12:55pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
truthman2012: I am not here to defend muhamed or muslims. Your questions are irrelevant to my contributions here. Jesus was killed for blasphemy and constituting public nuisance, at least that is what the bible reports and I am sure you believed he was killed like a common criminal. Muhamed of course died of poison, there is nothing extraordinary about that since humans have being dying from posoning since time immemorial. I think you have identity problem and you are quick to tag anyone that don't share your views as a muslim. In conclusion , Allah neither saved jesus nor alowed muhamed to die of poison , both men suffered the consequence of their actions and I will advice you that you jettison all these unfounded believes about the jewish idol yahweh and embrace the truth. |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by aminusanti(m): 1:54pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Annunaki: I can't but time will... |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Annunaki(m): 2:26pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
neocortex: Then label him as a role model for the Arabs and put him in the league of other 'great' generals in history like hitler who also able to rally up his people and achieved far greater conquest than mohamed could ever fathom. |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by neocortex: 2:52pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Annunaki: Unlike hitler his armies keeps swelling day by day. Hitler fought and lost, Muhamed fought and won. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Annunaki(m): 5:04pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
neocortex: Glad you are admitting that isis, boko haram and other islamic terror organisations are part of his army. |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by basilico: 5:56pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Jesus was a Muslim? Why? He believed in the oneness of God. Islamic logic . If you believe in one God then you are a Muslim. Jews are Muslims because they believe in Yahweh Right? Inbreeding causes mental disorders, indoctrination from young age makes it even worse. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Annunaki(m): 6:43pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
basilico: I believe in the oneness of God but I will rather die than become a muslim(satan worship in disguise). Islamic logic makes mor0ns look intelligent. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plainbibletruth: 10:19pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Majority of Muslims live in DENIAL. Even when they are CLEARLY shown how bankrupt mohammed was morally or even in integrity they choose to turn the other way. Show them the contradictions in the pieced-together Quran and the next thing they do is lamely attempt to discredit the Bible. They are either AFRAID of scrutinizing their "holy" book/books or they are ashamed that admitting to the weaknesses of their prophet and books will make them look foolish. It's truly amazing how millions live in self-deception and even in the face of clear evidence refuse to accept the truth. "Those who cling to worthless idols forfeit the grace that could be theirs" - Jonah 2:8 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Visitor700: 10:47pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
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Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Demmzy15(m): 10:48pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
plappville: You like showing yourself too much, I asked for Paul's conversion. No need for any epistle, just show me Paul's conversion from the bible.. . Shikena! MUHAMMAD'S EARLY TERRORIST ACT!!!!! The fact that this story is mentioned in Sunan Abu Dawood, it is weak and unreliable. Concerning isnad (i.e. chain of reporters), this Hadith was narrated by servant of Zaid Ibn Thabet on authority of daughter of Muhayyisah. Servant of Zaid is Muhammad Ibn Ibi Muhammad and he is unreliable, and daughter of Muhayyisah is unknown. Concerning matn (i.e. text), it says that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) ordered to kill all Jews which is illogical because Jews had a treaty with Muslims and there was no evidence that Muslims indulged in killing any Jew other than this Hadith. Moreover, Ibn Hesham himelf who edited the work of Ibn Ishaq suggests that the incident of Huwayyisah and Muhayyisah occurred during incident of Bani-Qurayzah, not after murder of Ka’b.* So Mr. Woman better get something more tangible, moreover, no one has slaughtered Jews more than Christians. It's a known and established fact, let's see some atrocities of you Christians against Jews: 70 A.D. Titus took Jerusalem - second revolt. Over one million Jews killed. 136 A.D. 580,000 men destroyed, 985 towns destroyed - third revolt. 300 A.D. Purim festival celebrating God's deliverance to Mordecai and the Jews through Esther and the fasting. Lies spread that Jews kill Christians for sacrifice. Emperor Severus also said the Jews purchased 90,000 Christians to kill them. 306 A.D. Council in Spain banned Christians & Jews meeting or marrying. 325 A.D. Constantine changed the celebration of Easter on the calendar so that it did not coincide with the Jewish Passover. 379 A.D. Vicious writing by St. John Chrysostom and St. Ambrose in Milan who said: "The Jews are the most worthless of all men. They are lecherous, greedy, rapacious. They are perfidious murderers of Christ. They worship the Devil. Their religion is a sickness. The Jews are the odious assassins of Christ and for killing God there is no expiation possible, no indulgence or pardon. Christians may never cease vengeance, and the Jew must live in servitude forever. God always hated the Jews. It is essential that all Christians hate them." He was called the Bishop with the Golden Tongue. St. Ambrose, Bishop of the Church offered to burn the synagogue himself. 395 A.D. St. Gregory of Nyssa in sermons and writings characterized Jews as assassins of the Prophets, companions of the Devil, a race of vipers, a Sanhedrin of Demons, enemies of all that is beautiful, hogs and goats in their lewd grossness. 415 A.D. Bishop Severus BURNED THE SYNAGOGUE IN THE VILLAGE OF MAGONA. BISHOP OF ALEXANDRIA, ST. CYRIL EXPELLED JEWS FROM ALEXANDRIA AND GAVE THE MOB JEWISH PROPERTY. ACCUSATION of Ritual murder by the Jews during Purim. Christians confiscated synagogues in ANTIOCH. These were not hooligans but Church Fathers! AUGUSTINE, JEROME, AMBROSE AND LESSER SAINTS AS ST. CHRYSOSTROM AND CYRIL, added to untruths the new ones that Jews were dishonest and prone to sexual perversions. 1012 A.D. Emperor Henry II of Germany expels Jews from Mainz, the beginning of persecutions against Jews in Germany. 1096 A.D. First Crusade. Crusaders massacre the Jews of the Rhineland. 1144 A.D. First recorded blood libel. In Norwich it was alleged that the Jews had "bought a Christian child before Easter, tortured him with all the tortures wherewith our Lord was tortured and on Friday hanged him on a rood in hatred of our Lord." (England) This notorious allegation that Jews murder non-Jews, especially Christians, in order to obtain blood for the Passover or other rituals is a complex of deliberate lies, trumped up accusations, and popular beliefs about the murder-lust of the Jews and their blood-thirstiness, based on the conception that Jews hate Christianity and mankind in general. It is combined with the delusion that Jews are in some way not human and must have recourse to special remedies and subterfuges in order to appear at least outwardly, like other men. The blood libel led to trials and massacres of Jews. Its origin is rooted in ancient almost primordial, concepts concerning the potency and energies of blood. It is one of the most terrible expressions of human cruelty and credulity. These blood rituals are expressly forbidden in Judaism. (See Leviticus 17;11 etc.) 1190 A.D. Massacre of Jews in England. 1215 A.D. The Jewish badge introduced. 1240 A.D. Talmud burned in France. 1290 A.D. Jews expelled from England. 1298 A.D. Massacre of thousands in Germany, in 146 localities. 1306 A.D. Expulsion from France. 1348 A.D. JEWS blamed for the BLACK DEATH. Charge laid to the Jews that they POISONED the wells to kill CHRISTIANS. 1389 A.D. MASSACRES in Bohemia, Spain. 1421 A.D. 270 JEWS BURNED AT THE STAKE. In the 14th and 15th centuries the Inquisition was more intense because the Church and State joined forces. Just being Jewish guaranteed persecution. Lemme stop here, remember that Jews consider their golden ages under Islamic Shariah States, they excelled the most under Muslims. I hope you can challenge this fact?! Again, did Jesus kill? Forget about ur trinity dogma u use to cover up. You are not discussing with a Trinitarian so U re off track. DID JESUS EVER KILLED ANYONE ? DID HIS DICIPLES KILL ANY1 ? So you want to deny "Trinity" because I don catch you ba?! If Jesus is great, and the prophet Muhammad is bad because he killed people, then so is Moses, and so is David. You can't use Trinity to cover anything, you Christians are the same people who would storm the OT and be bringing up so-called crucifixion prophesy and Jesus being god, so don't think you can play that nonsense card with me. Jesus killed for the following reasons: 1- Jesus is God 2- Jesus is the God of the Old Testement 3- Christians believe that the OT is the inspired word of God 4- The OT is authentic to the Christian 5- The God in the OT is Jesus Here are some brutality by biblical bloody Jesus: Zephaniah 2:12-15 "You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword," says the LORD. And the LORD will strike the lands of the north with his fist. He will destroy Assyria... Oh my God!!! Na wa for Jesu o! Ezekiel 9:5-7 "Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. No comment for this one! Lemme allow you reply with lies. [s]DID MUHAMMAD KILL? DID HIS MEN KILL? Look at all Islamic countries, it's bombing, murdering etc. No peace yet they claim thier religion is peaceful. Why didnt the religion of peace pieced into the heart of Muslims?[/s] Mention one Islamic Countries/States in which Muslims are killing each other?! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by neocortex: 11:09pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Visitor700: You missed the entire point of my post which is about "killings". and you made it worse by falsely claiming that women were not killed. You might as well claim that the prophet never fought any war! Have you ever heard of Asma bint Marwan , how did she die ? It seems you have no problem about men being murdered. If your position is that women were not killed then you erred once again. Now tell me if Asma bint Marwan is a male or female. As to the biblical quote you inserted , it is unnecessary because everyone knows how blood thirsty yahweh idol was , unfortunately prophet muhamed chose it as a role model. And finally , how many people do someone need to kill before becoming a murderer ? |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by aminusanti(m): 6:08am On Oct 11, 2015 |
plainbibletruth: What's dis one saying?? Ma friend go study your diluted bible well after analyzing and concluding the confusion that's in it then you can consider studying islam well with the intention of real knowledge seeking not just copying any trash online and postin hear expecting people to reply you..I swear If I start by posting contradicting verses from your books u wont be able to even attempt one out of it but u guys are posting all sort of lame question about islam and even with answers provided to you, u are still blind... |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by aminusanti(m): 6:12am On Oct 11, 2015 |
Annunaki: Hell is hot!! |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by IYANGBALI: 10:04am On Oct 11, 2015 |
omo so na otapiapia(rats posion) kill mohammed allah akbar |
Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by Demmzy15(m): 10:25am On Oct 11, 2015 |
adullam210:Perfect description of your father, that's nice! 2 Likes |
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