finniblinks:
welcome to the zoo. It is post civil war economic blockade

byrron:

[b]
You ended up barking like a rabid dog which you are without addressing the questions i asked which were devoid of any form of insult but your self appropriated deluded minister of seaport affairs ended up ranting brainlessly to the point i started wondering if this is a new form of unclassified type of stupidity.

If the crap you wrote up there is your response to my unambiguous questions then i make bold to say that you are daft and nothing but a tout.

If you are incapable of addressing issues with verifiable facts and decorum in a public forum then you are a high ranking tout.

what has Kanu or Biafra gotten to do with you addressing why a seaport is under utilize?

You were taught in geography that the PH seaport should be under utilized right? CLOWN!

can you see the level of your stupidity?

I am not gonna dignify an e-clown like you with any further response because u are so disgusting and highly repugnant.
If the crap you wrote up there is what you have been parading about as been knowledgeable with the workings of Nigeria then you are the C-in-C of all fools in the entire universe.

Go back and address the issues i raised in a more saner manner that is if you have any left over form of rationality in you or better still, you can shop for some.

Self deluded fool showcasing his foolery and even flaunting it as knowledge. [/b]

redsconsult:
Lagos sea port has more depth or draught of like 13m which is the deepest of all seaports presently in the country which can contain larger ships and cargoes compare to pH. If the pH port needs to be fully utilize there most be crios dredging of nothing more than 12 to 15m dept from its present 7m dept or there about. More investment need to channel in that region to ease the congestion at lagos port and to save life and properties on our roads

The Ibaka port is said to be between 17 and 18 meters draught without dredging and  its quay area will span over two miles (length). It is hoped that on completion, mega vessels of over 10,000 TEUs will be calling at the port and that will make it the largest in the region. 

tsdarkside:


you dont build a giant port,in a area,that dont even have enough population to stand financialy on its own.......this easteners should stop thinking with their anus,for ones......why not build a airport in every village in the east.....jealouse and unlogical people....

jaymichael:
What is the truth? what imbalance are you talking about? Is the PH port working? yes, Does it still receive ships yes, Is there any law or policy prohibiting ships from berthing and utilizing PH port? (You can get more clarification from any NPA office close to you or write to AGM ops western port Apapa) No If you igbos want PH port to thrive, Fill PH port in your FORM M prior to your importation. Yoruba businesses are predominantly domiciled in the sw they are not the ones that will make the port thrive. Your people prefer to route their goods through Lagos and they are the ones that STUPIDLY say PH port is underutilized. As an Importer, you have a right to route your goods through any port you so desire Apapa, Tincan Grimaldi PTML PAN ATLANTIC KLT, PH etc, just fill it in your form M and inform your shipper to look for a liner that ply that route. Am a freight forwarder and I should know. outline the policies initiated by the FM specifically targeted towards ensuring that the PH port is underutilized. PH port is working. ----------------->>NEXT PROPAGANDA.

stickncarrot:



Have you for once heard the term 'RURAL URBAN MIGRATION' ? what are the causes of population growth? Are the people in Lagos state the indigent of Lagos state? It is said that environment contributes to human development. I may not know the environ that moulded you. You really need to change from your environment because it is not doing you good.

tsdarkside:


sorry...what do you mean??...i mean,if you can not afford a ferrari,then its better you settle for a bycycle....and you are writing mambo-jambo........thunda fire you!!!

then build when the population reach 100`000,,1`000`000,,10`000`000...not when only 2`000 people are there you build a airport...its too expensive to maintain,you can not keep asking the goverment for this kind of silly projects....as if the goverment have a magic-tree,were they pluge the money from.....

every towns and cities in nigeria want to be like paris...as if every towns and cities in france are like paris....many towns and cities in france is what we call village in nigeria.......i dont even think france has that much seaports and airports as we in nigeria are trying to achieve...the idea is ridiculos......

postmann:


I believe you were not born yesterday. How you came up with such BELIEVABLE LIE puts you up as a front runner for the post of spokeman for a government whose motto is falsehood and deceit.

Nigerdelta militancy and youth restiveness is relatively recent.
Its an open secret that politics is what kept a big country like Nigeria with just one functional port in lagos

stickncarrot:




Am sorry to have started arguing/responding with(to) an illiterate.

tsdarkside:


you dont build a giant port,in a area,that dont even have enough population to stand financialy on its own.......this easteners should stop thinking with their anus,for ones......why not build a airport in every village in the east.....jealouse and unlogical people....

jaymichael:
Learn to Learn, ignorance makes one appear dumb. Am into the logistics business. I am a freight forwarder. Who tell you the oil companies and the shipping agents to those oil vessels don't settle "community" It is mostly oil companies that ship essential equipments through PH port. Though some business men business men do ship goods through PH port, but the rate is very very low. I often discuss with a boss of mine who works at GAC shipping agency (OPERATIONS MANAGER in charge of discharging and loading of vessels oil tankers inclusive) he often decry the level of militancy, extortion and piracy as the most serious impediment to their operations. Except it is ABSOLUTELY necessary, business men prefer Lagos port. The Oil industry that utilizes PH port due to proximity usually don't worry about cost, besides, some of these equipments may be too large and cumbersome to transport through road if shipped from Lagos.

stanech:


this is the silliest thing I have ever read. how do the oil companies carryout oil exploration in these areas then if it is that bad

stanech:


sorry your explanation is not making sense to me. who is collecting these money are they legal bodies ? can't the government do anything to check them.


I still think they are deliberately shortchanging the ss people

stickncarrot:



You may need to confirm your figures. Lagos sea port is 7-9m dept while that of Akwa-ibom is 17-18m dept without dredge.




http://www.nigerianports.org/news.aspx?id=251

Nigeria isn't one that's why we are not utilizing other ports. Look at how congested Lagos state is.

redsconsult:
Lagos sea port is 13m stop guessing

stickncarrot:



Abaka is 18. Isn't it better than 13?

jaymichael:
Just one functional seaport you say? Is this bigotry or crass ignorance on display here? PH port is working. You cannot be in your bedroom and know which port is functional or not.

omonnakoda:
This is not a verified claim

stickncarrot:





http://www.nigerianports.org/news.aspx?id=251

postmann:


When i said "functional" the average reader could very easily know what i meant. I've worked in Bonny, Kolo creek, PH, Oporoma, etc and I know PH port like Warri port are having low activies.
There's nothing stopping the FG from dredging the port in PH and make it suitable for larger ships. Afterall, that was the port that served the British in eastern Nigeria.

Your oga at the top might have told you sweet garbage as to why ports in eastern nigeria dont function well -— even calabar port which is well suitable for export and import and you're spreading falsehood. Working in a shiping line gives you no authority on classified facts about the politics of Nigeria.

There have been pirate activities along lagos waterways.

It actually was during and after the civil war that all the ports and international airport in the east were discouraged from functioning in their original capacity for fear of weapon smuggling. Unfortunately the ghost of that policy still lingers several decades after.

And no government has reasoned beyond her anus to realize Nigeria is losing billions having just one major port.
The mother of all shame is that we even lose to Benin port.
The black man has proven to be his own worst enemy, never seeing beyond the scope of tribalism.

There are so many facts: even the steel plant that the British sited in the east because of the availability of iron in orji river axis. and coal in Enugu was moved to Aladja in delta state. Despite all the billions sunk into it , it failed to live.

These are few ills of the tribal military regimes that failed to diversify Nigeria's economy and locations.

omonnakoda:
And.........is it verified there?
Do you even understand the issues at stake you just post what you do not understand. There is a port at Apapa with a depth of13+ Metres that is called Anchorage depth when the ships berth. It is quite different from approach depth etc. The link you provided just mentions an UNVERIFIED claim which is what I said before More telling is the fact that there is a proposal to move it. Why? Ibaka is not by the sea and so it will be moved to a new location and will no longer be called Ibaka but Ibom. When that time comes tell us the depth and whether you are talking of anchorage depth or approach depth.http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/12/ibaka-deep-sea-port-relocated-new-site/
If it is located to Ibeno as proposed that means it will be on the Kwa Ibo River about 20 miles from the sea.
This will give you an idea of how blessed Lagos is. Lagos can comfortably host another 4 or 5 ports sitting very comfortably on or close to the sea without talking of the potential for reclamation of more sea
while the whole country from Ogun to Akwa Ibom will struggle to host one

Anyway I am in support of it but the truth is that entire area will cost a lot more money to construct and maintain than Lagos state but Akwa Ibom has the money and it is a good long term investment

stickncarrot:




How did you verify that of Lagos?

stickncarrot:




Do you know that Ibaka is in Akwa-ibom state?

stickncarrot:






Even if Lagos should have 10 ports and other states have seas of 10m depth, the Gov should develop sea port there. Now, Ibaka has up to 17m depth without dredge and you want to confirm it? How did you verify that of Lagos?

coolscott:
Typing from phone now so I can't expatiate now.
Will try to later but if anyone has answers to this, I won't mind understanding the reasons behind this.

stickncarrot:



Abaka is 18. Isn't it better than 13?

stickncarrot:



Abaka is 18. Isn't it better than 13?

stickncarrot:



Abaka is 18. Isn't it better than 13?

ba7man:
Apapa port is located in a lagoon while PH port is located in a sediment rich delta.

They do not share the same topography.