Typing from phone now so I can't expatiate now.
Will try to later but if anyone has answers to this, I won't mind understanding the reasons behind this.

welcome to the zoo. It is post civil war economic blockade

finniblinks:
welcome to the zoo

where things are done upside down. Zoo the to welcome

I have been asking this question for ages.

why why why?

ask Google

why is the NPC headquarters in Abuja.
why is the navy command center in abuja
why why why

coolscott:
Typing from phone now so I can't expatiate now.
Will try to later but if anyone has answers to this, I won't mind understanding the reasons behind this.

The answer is just one, MILITANCY/PIRACY. Those Niger Delta waterways are not safe. Apart from threats of kidnapping, it is more expensive for the shipping companies and shipping agents to operate that route as they have to settle or pay "escort" money to each community they pass. The cost is then passed on to the consignees. Security (or lack of it) is a serious impediment to the optimal utilization of Portharcourt port.

jaymichael:
The answer is just one, MILITANCY/PIRACY. Those Niger Delta waterways are not safe. Apart from threats of kidnapping, it is more expensive for the shipping companies and shipping agents to operate that route as they have to settle or pay "escort" money to each community they pass. The cost is then passed on to the consignees. Security (or lack of it) is a serious impediment to the optimal utilization of Portharcourt port.

this is the silliest thing I have ever read. how do the oil companies carryout oil exploration in these areas then if it is that bad

Lagos sea port has more depth or draught of like 13m which is the deepest of all seaports presently in the country which can contain larger ships and cargoes compare to pH. If the pH port needs to be fully utilize there most be crios dredging of nothing more than 12 to 15m dept from its present 7m dept or there about. More investment need to channel in that region to ease the congestion at lagos port and to save life and properties on our roads

Sea Pirates!

Dannyset:
Sea Pirates!

but they can successfully lift oil from the same region

stanech:


this is the silliest thing I have ever read. how do the oil companies carryout oil exploration in these areas then if it is that bad

Learn to Learn, ignorance makes one appear dumb. Am into the logistics business. I am a freight forwarder. Who tell you the oil companies and the shipping agents to those oil vessels don't settle "community" It is mostly oil companies that ship essential equipments through PH port. Though some business men business men do ship goods through PH port, but the rate is very very low. I often discuss with a boss of mine who works at GAC shipping agency (OPERATIONS MANAGER in charge of discharging and loading of vessels oil tankers inclusive) he often decry the level of militancy, extortion and piracy as the most serious impediment to their operations. Except it is ABSOLUTELY necessary, business men prefer Lagos port. The Oil industry that utilizes PH port due to proximity usually don't worry about cost, besides, some of these equipments may be too large and cumbersome to transport through road if shipped from Lagos.

jaymichael:
Learn to Learn ignorance makes one appear dumb. Am into the logistics business. I am a freight forwarder. Who tell you the oil companies and the shipping agents to those oil vessels don't settle "community" It is mostly oil companies that ship essential equipments through PH port. Though some business men business men do ship goods through PH port, but the rate is very very low. I often discuss with a boss of mine who works with GAC shipping agency (OPERATIONS MANAGER in charge of discharging and loading of vessels oil tankers inclusive) he often decry the level of militancy, extortion and piracy as the most serious impediment to their operations.

sorry your explanation is not making sense to me. who is collecting these money are they legal bodies ? can't the government do anything to check them.


I still think they are deliberately shortchanging the ss people

this country is evil


this country will crush within few months . evil place staring in your face .


you chose to sing poverty zombie chorus " i'm omo naija "


this country is not real ,you and I know the truth lets face it .


I am not a zoogerian

Why is NNPC HQ in Abuja?

stanech:


but they can successfully lift oil from the same region

Please convince me on how dealing in Sea port that involves and cater for a whole region(if not a country) is the same thing with oil lifting. Do you really know what it is to have a working Ports in violence prone environment? Or you think Sea ports isn't for Private and Public parastatals?

Dannyset:

Please convince me on how dealing in Sea port that involves and cater for a whole region(if not a country) is the same thing with oil lifting. Do you really know what it is to have a working Ports in violence prone environment? Or you think Sea ports isn't for Private and Public parastatals?

Violence? I don't get it. as I am typing now there is relative peace in the whole of Niger Delta. so which violence are you talking about

and remember that the reason for the agitation in the Niger delta was because of government insensitivity to their plight. do you know how far a sea port will go in helping the youths in nigerdelta?

if you can drill their oil and transport the oil to other parts of the country and the world why not establish a functional port for them.

stanech:



Violence? I don't get it. as I am typing now there is relative peace in the whole of Niger Delta. so which violence are you talking about

and remember that the reason for the agitation in the Niger delta was because of government insensitivity to their plight. do you know how far a sea port will go in helping the youths in nigerdelta?

if you can drill their oil and transport the oil to other parts of the country and the world why not establish a functional port for them.

Well, I guess somebody with experience in the job has explained things to you, but I think you know better. Let's leave it.

stanech:


sorry your explanation is not making sense to me. ,[b]who is collecting these money are they legal bodies ?[/b]can't the government do anything to check them.


I still think they are deliberately shortchanging the ss people

Have you ever transported goods to any part of the SS? I have. Have you ever cited any projects in the SS? then you will know that you have to "settle community" is the money legal? No. Who collects the money? you should have asked me who collects or where the agbero money collected in Lagos go to. Nobody is shortchanging the SS or ND in this regard. The NDeltans should tone down on this "OUR THIS, OUR THAT" attitude. There are PH port, warri port, Calabar port, Koko port. lagos waterways are peaceful safe and conducive for business and navigation. From Apapa Tincan channel through Badagry creek, down to Badagry, is safe without problems of piracy and militancy unlike what obtains in the ND.

There is no federal presence in SS+SE where you will find federal presence is in Lagos,Abuja,Kaduna,Kano,Jos and Niger
SS+SE are good for exploitation. You can only find federal exploitative projects like NLNG,shell,NNPC etc.
One Nigeria indeed

Why did SANs vote in an illiterate to be their president?
Welcome to the zoo

jaymichael:
The answer is just one, MILITANCY/PIRACY. Those Niger Delta waterways are not safe. Apart from threats of kidnapping, it is more expensive for the shipping companies and shipping agents to operate that route as they have to settle or pay "escort" money to each community they pass. The cost is then passed on to the consignees. Security (or lack of it) is a serious impediment to the optimal utilization of Portharcourt port.

The Eastern ports have been under utilized since the end of the vandalization of the East in 1970. The promotion of the lagos ports is a concession to the Yorubas for their role in the war. And this is rightly so cos merchant vessels berthed in the eastern ports before the war. The 'militancy/piracy' is something of yesterday.

The eastern ports could have been functioning like those of Lagos decades before the commencement of the so called militancy.

Again, what do you mean by "delta waterways"? Eastern Nigeria has direct sea coast just like Lagos to the extent that large ocean going vessels passes from their to the ports of Cameroon at Limbe, Malabo in Equatrial Guinea, Libreville in Gabon and the DRC.

What is the role of a country's navy if they can't stop the pirates on their waters? Like I said, it is the win-the-war politics that is keeping the eastern ports down.

jaymichael:
Have you ever transported goods to any part of the SS? I have. Have you ever cited any projects in the SS? then you will know that you have to "settle community" is the money legal? No. Who collects the money? you should have asked me who collects or where the agbero money collected in Lagos go to. Nobody is shortchanging the SS or ND in this regard. The NDeltans should tone down on this "OUR THIS, OUR THAT" attitude. There are PH port, warri port, Calabar port, Koko port. lagos waterways are peaceful safe and conducive for business and navigation. From Apapa Tincan channel through Badagry creek, down to Badagry, is safe without problems of piracy and militancy unlike what obtains in the ND.

My question now is that is it not the duty of the federal government to stop these people collecting these illegal fines. What if youths in Lagos starts collecting these taxes is the fg now going to move the Lagos port to Benin republic..

These youths are collecting these mone because nobody is stopping them.
So the federal government through the Police and other agencies ensure that businesses are protected.

jaymichael:
Have you ever transported goods to any part of the SS? I have. Have you ever cited any projects in the SS? then you will know that you have to "settle community" is the money legal? No. Who collects the money? you should have asked me who collects or where the agbero money collected in Lagos go to. Nobody is shortchanging the SS or ND in this regard. The NDeltans should tone down on this "OUR THIS, OUR THAT" attitude. There are PH port, warri port, Calabar port, Koko port. lagos waterways are peaceful safe and conducive for business and navigation. From Apapa Tincan channel through Badagry creek, down to Badagry, is safe without problems of piracy and militancy unlike what obtains in the ND.

are you saying people don't pay all this money in Lagos. wat about Lagos whr truck movement 're limited

This evil has been there for some time but the clueless GEJ and equally clueless OBJ both from the south did nothing about it, so OP if you ask me, na who i go ask?

jaymichael:
The answer is just one, MILITANCY/PIRACY. Those Niger Delta waterways are not safe. Apart from threats of kidnapping, it is more expensive for the shipping companies and shipping agents to operate that route as they have to settle or pay "escort" money to each community they pass. The cost is then passed on to the consignees. Security (or lack of it) is a serious impediment to the optimal utilization of Portharcourt port.

I believe you are wrong on them having to pay settlement to each community they pass because I live in the area. You do not necessarily have to pass through communities and there are a lot of ships littered on the water way. On that part, I know for one you are wrong.

As for piracy, this only started shortly after the Odili era and it is only local speedboats they go after.

The only thing I can agree with herebis kidnapping. The question is why have they kidnapped no one on any of the ships littered along our waterways?

Note: There are lots of ships on our waterways, on NLNG, Mobil or similar business. Others heading for the Onne port in Port Harcourt but this of course is not up to 1% or 0.5% of the activity that takes place at the Lagos port.

Yeske2:
This evil has been there for some time but the clueless GEJ and equally clueless OBJ both from the south did nothing about it, so OP if you ask me, na who i go ask?

I agree with you on this (although I will not call OBJ or Jonathan clueless)

That is why, thinking with my eyes open, I cannot place a lot of respect on Amaechi or Nyesom Wike. They, including their (in my opinion, worse of) predecessor, Peter Odili constitute the indigenous democratic governors who made no serious investment in the future of rivers state despite having a lot of money at their disposal, and time.

Indeed, I believe it has been beyond the scope of their intellects to do so simply because those kinds of thoughts are not typically found in the areas their minds usually wonder to when in power. Areas like wealth accumulation, fighting the opposition, and which easily controllable stooge to put in place while leaving office.

patmaine:




are you saying people don't pay all this money in Lagos. wat about Lagos whr truck movement 're limited

The movement of trucks as at this moment are not limited. There are agberos and other street urchins in Lagos who constitute nuisance and extort money but nobody disturbs anyone along our waterways hence it is conducive and safe for business.

coolscott:

I believe you are wrong on them having to pay settlement to each community they pass because I live in the area. You do not necessarily have to pass through communities and there are a lot of ships littered on the water way. On that part, I know for one you are wrong.

As for piracy, this only started shortly after the Odili era and it is only local speedboats they go after.

The only thing I can agree with herebis kidnapping. The question is why have they kidnapped no one on any of the ships littered along our waterways?

Note: There are lots of ships on our waterways, on NLNG, Mobil or similar business. Others heading for the Onne port in Port Harcourt but this of course is not up to 1% or 0.5% of the activity that takes place at the Lagos port.

It is not that they stop their ships and settle everybody like how they settle motor park touts on the highway. It's as if it's a "racket" sort of. Some strong men or powerful chiefs control a particular stretch of water. To avoid kidnapping and/or other kinds of problems, they settle them before hand. You may live in the ND but if you are not in the logistics business over there, or you are not part of the "racket" you may never know what goes on in the waters. Like I said earlier, it is a shipping agency manager that explained the problems they are having in the ND and he specifically told me that those (cargo) ports will continue to be underutilized because of these problems.

My brother, the thing tire me o

Pictures and studies of the sea port?

stanech:


this is the silliest thing I have ever read. how do the oil companies carryout oil exploration in these areas then if it is that bad

It is not a silly explanation. Sea piracy is a MAJOR problem in these areas. I know personally about the warri port; piracy killed the port. Not long ago when sea pirates were attacked by the air force, certain group of people criticised the attack on pirates because their heads are only configures to see things through the microscopic prism of politics/ethnicity; they defended the criminals because they felt since the president was from the north then he had no right to fight even southern criminals.

Bro, security in the water ways was one of the biggest problems which cripled the ports in the Niger delta. Oil companies you refer to have the money and they pay billions yearly to secure their vessels and properties. Private business men dont have that kind of caash.