Nairaland Forum

Welcome, Guest: Join Nairaland / Login / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 1257948 members, 1696331 topics. Date: Tuesday, 21 October 2014 at 10:34 PM

Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade - Culture - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Culture / Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade (21125 Views)

Please, Teach Me Efik/ibibio (calabar/akwa-ibom) Language. / Help With Ibibio Translations Please. / Book On The Ibibio Culture (1) (2) (3) (4)

(0) (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply) (Go Down)

Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 5:49pm On Apr 30, 2009
Source:
http://books.google.com/books?id=Sn5pK8rbR5MC&pg=PA144 — The transatlantic slave trade By James A. Rawley, Stephen D. Behrendt

Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 5:50pm On Apr 30, 2009
The percentages of Igbo people

Apparently around 80% of those from the Bight of Biafra were Igbo! This is too much!

Source:
http://books.google.com/books?id=kuXEzQZQmawC&pg=PA75 — Routes to slavery By David Eltis, David Richardson

Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 5:52pm On Apr 30, 2009
English speaking America 1700 - 1800

Source:
http://books.google.com/books?id=eVWWt5VWYgIC&pg=PA93 — The Cambridge Economic History of the United States By Stanley L. Engerman, Robert E. Gallman

Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by sosisi(f): 12:21am On May 02, 2009
Bight of Biafra doesn't refer to only Igbos,it stretches even to the Cameroons
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by Kenezi: 2:10am On May 02, 2009
Estimates upon estimates.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by Hauwa1: 1:29pm On May 02, 2009
interesting! all the AA are our siblings lipsrsealed let me look for my gran gran pa lost child cool
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 3:43pm On May 02, 2009
Kenezi:

Estimates upon estimates.

Records upon records.

$osisi:

Bight of Biafra doesn't refer to only Igbos,it stretches even to the Cameroons

If you would read it.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ChinenyeN(m): 4:21pm On May 02, 2009
Not sure how true this is, but I'll say it anyway. . I read somewhere that it is estimated by some black American historians/anthropologists (or something like that. . ) that about 60% of black Americans in the U.S., who are descendants of slaves in the U.S., have at least one Igbo ancestor.
I'll have to go and search out where I read that.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 6:34pm On May 02, 2009
ChinenyeN:

Not sure how true this is, but I'll say it anyway. . I read somewhere that it is estimated by some black American historians/anthropologists (or something like that. . ) that about 60% of black Americans in the U.S., who are descendants of slaves in the U.S., have at least one Igbo ancestor.
I'll have to go and search out where I read that.

Douglas Chambers?
http://www.usm.edu/pr/prnews/apr05/chiefchambers.htm
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 4:13pm On May 09, 2009
well is it?
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ChinenyeN(m): 3:01am On May 11, 2009
Ezeagu, biko gbaghara m for taking so long to reply. Anyway, yeah, that's it. That's where/who I read that from.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by sjeezy8: 3:16am On May 11, 2009
WHATS THE EAST SIDE OBSESSION WITH AMERICANS BEING IGBO I MEAN PURE RUBBISH, IM SURE THEY ARE BUT THEY DONT SPEAK IGBO NOR DO THEY HAVE IGBO NAMES NOR THE SAME TRADITIONAL BELIEFS, YORUBAS ON THE OTHER HAND ONLY ACKNOWLEGDE THOSE IN BRAZIL , CUBA, PUERTO RICO THAT KNOW THIER YORUBA. ALL THE OTHER ARE LOST ESPECIALLY AA'S
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by sosisi(f): 3:18am On May 11, 2009
sjeezy8:

WHATS THE EAST SIDE OBSESSION WITH AMERICANS BEING IGBO I MEAN PURE RUBBISH, IM SURE THEY ARE BUT THEY DONT SPEAK IGBO NOR DO THEY HAVE IGBO NAMES NOR THE SAME TRADITIONAL BELIEFS, YORUBAS ON THE OTHER HAND ONLY ACKNOWLEGDE THOSE IN BRAZIL , CUBA, PUERTO RICO THAT KNOW THIER YORUBA. ALL THE OTHER ARE LOST ESPECIALLY AA'S

and you're killing yourself over another man's "obsession" ? shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by sjeezy8: 3:20am On May 11, 2009
we dont search for our lost bros during the slave trade they always comeback to us
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by sjeezy8: 3:20am On May 11, 2009
osisi YOU MUST BE COW A FOR REPLYING
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 10:37pm On May 11, 2009
sjeezy8:

WHATS THE EAST SIDE OBSESSION WITH AMERICANS BEING IGBO I MEAN PURE RUBBISH,  IM SURE THEY ARE BUT THEY DONT SPEAK IGBO NOR DO THEY HAVE IGBO NAMES NOR THE SAME TRADITIONAL BELIEFS,  YORUBAS ON THE OTHER HAND ONLY ACKNOWLEGDE THOSE IN BRAZIL , CUBA, PUERTO RICO THAT KNOW THIER YORUBA. ALL THE OTHER ARE LOST ESPECIALLY AA'S

I would reply and educate you, but you came at me the wrong way. Name me one high profile Puerto Rican, Brazilian or Cuban who has come back to Yorubaland. Igbo people have already had Forest Whitaker and Wesley Snipes comeback and the Cuban Abakua, a version of Ekpe, members who descended from the Efik have visited Calabar. I'm not even mentioning Paul Robeson, an activist, who stated clearly that he was of Igbo descent. Please don't start the ethnic rivalry, not because of PC issues, but because you'd lose, lol.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by sjeezy8: 11:35pm On May 11, 2009
YOUR MISSING THE POINT ODE of course a high profile person would come back ODE  they have money to find out what tribe there from your such an idot i mean SHETT your soooooo dumb i mean like i said they can't speak igbo they do not know any igbo songs and thier grand parent and great grand parents didn't tell them you are igbo, they found out through Genealogy test which are too expensive for the common folk ODE BUT CUBAN AND BRAZILIAN yorubas on the other hand HAVE BEEN RETURNING TO YORUBALAND FOR THE PAST 150 YEARS THEY DONT NEED A TEST

CAUSE IT AINT A BIG DEAL TO YORUBA PERSON


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria#Ethno-linguistic_groups


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZfObixs73M 



DONT BE A SHETT HEAD ,  and stop YOUR BLABBER  be a good igbo boy and go make money like my good igbo people SHETTTT clowns these days

1 Like

Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 4:14pm On May 12, 2009
The usage of Igbo in the diaspora till today:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_language#Usage_in_the_Diaspora

Paul Robeson spoke Igbo with his colleagues:
http://books.google.com/books?id=EysCsWG7OdYC&pg=PA335&dq=paul+robeson+ibo&as_brr=3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Robeson#Early_life_and_education

Igbo unions by diaspora:
http://books.google.com/books?id=FYFxE8-uSa4C&pg=PA173&dq=Igbo+unions

Family tradiiton told T.D Jakes he was Igbo and he guessed he was Igbo correctly before his DNA test:
http://www.afripol.org/Jakes.htm

This Belizean musician knows he is of Igbo descent:
http://www.drummerconnection.com/user/evanbelize/blogs/2009/03/01/entry-5263-evan-belize-drummer-thomas-mapfumo

Family tradition says this guy was Igbo from his fathers side:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wheaton

and then check this story out:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/aalives/stories/149.html

Cuban Abakua descendant of the Efik visit Calabar stil retaining Efik culture:
http://afrocubaweb.com/abakwa/cubanscrossriver.htm

Igbo people are not loud and are a very private and quiet people, just because you don't see the Igbo in the diaspora flashing their Igbo identity around, doesn't mean that they are not there, they are just keeping personal information personal.

1 Like

Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 4:23pm On May 12, 2009
sjeezy8:

they can't speak igbo they do not know any igbo songs and thier grand parent and great grand parents didn't tell them you are igbo,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZfObixs73M

"Slavery greatly restricted the ability of Africans in America to practice their cultural traditions, many practices, values, and beliefs survived and over time have modified or blended with European American culture."

There were more Africans in Brazil to Europeans than there were in North America and their culture was not as restricted as it was in North America, "SHETT HEAD"

sjeezy8:

they found out through Genealogy test which are too expensive for the common folk

What are you talking about? "Common folk" take DNA tests all the time, "ODE".

sjeezy8:

they do not know any igbo songs

American music = Igbo music.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by tpiah: 4:39pm On May 12, 2009
.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by sjeezy8: 12:57am On May 13, 2009
Yes and im aware of that but you were the one who said

"I would reply and educate you, but you came at me the wrong way. Name me one high profile Puerto Rican, Brazilian or Cuban who has come back to Yorubaland. Igbo people have already had Forest Whitaker and Wesley Snipes comeback and the Cuban Abakua, a version of Ekpe, members who descended from the Efik have visited Calabar. I'm not even mentioning Paul Robeson, an activist, who stated clearly that he was of Igbo descent. Please don't start the ethnic rivalry, not because of PC issues, but because you'd lose, lol."

"Igbo people are not loud and are a very private and quiet people, just because you don't see the Igbo in the diaspora flashing their Igbo identity around, doesn't mean that they are not there, they are just keeping personal information personal."


now your saying igbo people are private about being igbo, lol your a very funny guy

and im sorry but people dont do dna and geaneology all the time unless thier on "MAURY" BE FOREAL HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU MET THAT HAVE TAKEN A DNA TEST LOL

AND SAYING AMERICAN MUSIC= IGBO MUSIC IS SOOOO DUMB LOL

THATS LIKE SAYING IGBO MUSIC CAME FROM EAST AFRICAN ORIGIN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_Igbo_people

IGBO PEOPLE ARE A DISTINCT SET OF PEOPLE AS AN IGBO YOU SHOULD NOT TRY AND WATER THEM DOWN
BY SAYING THAT MOST OF THE NONSENSE IN IN BLACK AMERICAN MUSIC ORIGINATED IN IGBO LAND LOL

IM SURE YOUR NOT 100% IGBO OR AN IGBO PERIOD

IF THE COMMON IGBO WANTED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH AMERICANS IGBOS WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MARRYING AMERICANS WHICH MANY DO SMART GUY

I LOVE THIS GUY LOL MAN IM LIKE SERIOUSLY LAUGHING RIGHT NOW

IM SURE YOURE A AFROCENTRIC AMERICAN OR AN IGBO BOY WITH AMERICAN MOM AND IGBO FATHER NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, BUT BEFORE YOU START SAYING IGBOS AND AFRICAN AMERICAN ARE THE SAME CHILL AROUND IGBOS WHO REGULARLY GO TO NAIJA AND SEE HOW IGBO'S, NAIJAS OR ALL AFRICANS FOR THAT MATTER TRY AND DIFFERENTIATE THEMSELVES FROM AMERICANS

KNOWING YOUR OF IGBO DECENT DOESN'T MEAN SQUAT ITS THIER CULTURE VALUES LANGUAGE AND TRADITION THAT MAKE THEM WHO THEY ARE NOT THE TITLE IGBO
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 8:21pm On May 13, 2009
sjeezy8:


KNOWING YOUR OF IGBO DECENT DOESN'T MEAN SQUAT ITS THIER CULTURE VALUES LANGUAGE AND TRADITION THAT MAKE THEM WHO THEY ARE NOT THE TITLE IGBO


Who started all this rubbish in the first place, was it not you? Who said that the Americans say their Igbo, you were the one that was bragging about the Cuban, Puerto Rican and Brazilian "Yoruba". You are now diverting the topic because I've giving you 'shut-your-mouth' evidence.
sjeezy8:


now your saying igbo people are private about being igbo, lol your a very funny guy

and im sorry but people dont do dna and geaneology all the time unless thier on "MAURY" BE FOREAL HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU MET THAT HAVE TAKEN A DNA TEST LOL


So these people are on Maury?:
http://www.afrigeneas.com/forum-dna/

sjeezy8:

Yes and im aware of that but you were the one who said

"I would reply and educate you, but you came at me the wrong way. Name me one high profile Puerto Rican, Brazilian or Cuban who has come back to Yorubaland. Igbo people have already had Forest Whitaker and Wesley Snipes comeback and the Cuban Abakua, a version of Ekpe, members who descended from the Efik have visited Calabar. I'm not even mentioning Paul Robeson, an activist, who stated clearly that he was of Igbo descent. Please don't start the ethnic rivalry, not because of PC issues, but because you'd lose, lol."

"Igbo people are not loud and are a very private and quiet people, just because you don't see the Igbo in the diaspora flashing their Igbo identity around, doesn't mean that they are not there, they are just keeping personal information personal."


now your saying igbo people are private about being igbo, lol your a very funny guy

and im sorry but people dont do dna and geaneology all the time unless thier on "MAURY" BE FOREAL HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU MET THAT HAVE TAKEN A DNA TEST LOL

AND SAYING AMERICAN MUSIC= IGBO MUSIC IS SOOOO DUMB LOL

THATS LIKE SAYING IGBO MUSIC CAME FROM EAST AFRICAN ORIGIN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_Igbo_people

IGBO PEOPLE ARE A DISTINCT SET OF PEOPLE AS AN IGBO YOU SHOULD NOT TRY AND WATER THEM DOWN
BY SAYING THAT MOST OF THE NONSENSE IN IN BLACK AMERICAN MUSIC ORIGINATED IN IGBO LAND LOL

You don't listen to Michael, Whitney, R Kelly, Snoop Dogg or Toni Braxton? No?

sjeezy8:


THATS LIKE SAYING IGBO MUSIC CAME FROM EAST AFRICAN ORIGIN

grin Every human, talk less Igbo, is said to have come from the Ethiopian area.

sjeezy8:


KNOWING YOUR OF IGBO DECENT DOESN'T MEAN SQUAT ITS THIER CULTURE VALUES LANGUAGE AND TRADITION THAT MAKE THEM WHO THEY ARE NOT THE TITLE IGBO


Then don't talk about Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Brazilians, etc then . . . . . . . .
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by tpiah: 9:20pm On May 13, 2009
.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 11:41pm On May 13, 2009
tpiah:

you wish.

Can you explain your disdain?
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by tpiah: 11:46pm On May 13, 2009
.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 10:01pm On May 14, 2009
tpiah:



dont know which disdain you're seeing, but your obvious attempt to dodge the facts by claiming Ethiopia, isnt working. Besides, human origins are placed in Kenya, not Ethiopia.

Mba, its in Ethiopia's Omo valley where the oldest human remains were found, and I can't remember claiming Ethiopia, just stating that the human race is said to originate there. . . . . . . .

ref: https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by tpiah: 1:15am On May 15, 2009
.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by sjeezy8: 4:00am On May 15, 2009
eh hen like i said ODE maybe you should jump of a building because my point was why be concerned about the relation between AA and igbos when igbos dont want to be associated ,  i mean you making a big deal and when i talk about LATIN america im tlkain about those who come back to nigeria or those who still practice IFA and what not, AA didn't past shiooot down to there generations (we dont care about those who dont practice our traditional culture)

and I said igbos and african americans ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AA CULTURE IS IN NO WAY THE SAME AS IGBO


NOW SLAP YOURSELF LOL
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by sjeezy8: 4:13am On May 15, 2009
and no i dont listen to " Michael, Whitney, R Kelly, Snoop Dogg or Toni Braxton"

i listen to 9ice, timaya, durella, bigiano, p square, j martins, dbanj and mohits, naeto c, klever jay, 2 shots,

awilo logomba, obesere, wasiu, pashuma


those days of listenin to AMERICAN artist are gone the music scene in naija and africa is jumping( most africans in general play thier own music , throw thier own parties and party in the VIP WITH ONLY AFRICANS (MOSTLY NAIJA PEEPS) AND WE ONLY LET THE PRETTY AMERICAN GIRLS IN

im that guy riding inda lex blasting african music even if i gotta american girl in the car her Bottom betta shut up and listen to some african music tongue

1 Like

Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 3:30pm On May 15, 2009
tpiah:

the post you were responding to had nothing to do with human origins.

tpiah:



dont know which disdain you're seeing, but your obvious attempt to dodge the facts by claiming Ethiopia, isnt working. Besides, human origins are placed in Kenya, not Ethiopia.

Forget it. . . . .  .
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by ezeagu(m): 3:34pm On May 15, 2009
sjeezy8:

eh hen like i said ODE maybe you should jump of a building because my point was why be concerned about the relation between AA and igbos when igbos dont want to be associated ,  i mean you making a big deal and when i talk about LATIN america im tlkain about those who come back to nigeria or those who still practice IFA and what not, AA didn't past shiooot down to there generations (we dont care about those who dont practice our traditional culture)

and I said igbos and african americans ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AA CULTURE IS IN NO WAY THE SAME AS IGBO


NOW SLAP YOURSELF LOL


You can't even put a simple sentence together. There were Yoruba people (although very little) in America. 'Ode' why do you think they didn't hand down Ifa to them? (hint, hint: check my previous explanation)

sjeezy8:

and no i dont listen to "  Michael, Whitney, R Kelly, Snoop Dogg or Toni Braxton" 

i listen to 9ice, timaya, durella, bigiano, p square, j martins, dbanj and mohits, naeto c, klever jay, 2 shots,

awilo logomba, obesere, wasiu, pashuma


those days of listenin to AMERICAN artist are gone the music scene in naija and africa is jumping( most africans in general play thier own music , throw thier own parties and party in the VIP WITH ONLY AFRICANS (MOSTLY NAIJA PEEPS) AND WE ONLY LET THE PRETTY AMERICAN GIRLS IN

im that guy riding inda lex blasting african music even if i gotta american girl in the car her Bottom betta shut up and listen to some african music  tongue

Most of the people you listed (I don't know who the rest are) are influenced by American music, especially P-Square (Michael Jackson and Usher), they've even said this themselves.
Re: Igbo, Ibibio, Etc. In The Atlantic Slave Trade by tpiah: 4:38pm On May 15, 2009
.

(0) (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply)

2-yr-old Child Offering Food To Her Mother / African Presidents And Their Wives(first Ladies) / Do You Seriously Think Black People Are Equal To White People In Intelligence?

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (0) (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2014 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See Nairalist and How To Advertise. 87
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.