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Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by odave: 12:58pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Martins301: You pick up e-fight easily like a kid...smh Were you not trying to imply that a decade is 100 years? That was what I was correcting Peace |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by WIZGUY69(m): 12:59pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Op. not only northern states, eastern states too. especially the way they brag, I was expecting there igr to be competing with that of USA & China, but was disappointed when I see that a whole region's igr is slightly higher than a state in SS (Rivers). Solution; Russia should just help us to wipe that region from the face of this earth. |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by bukqar(m): 1:01pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
drss:hmmmmmm you can say Wat ever you want to say,an individual family man in north can afford Wat he will eat with his family 3sqr meal every day.my stay in d south you will cry for them cos some one that call him self a chief it hrds him to do DAT.don't forget the oil you are referring is discovered in many part of the country not only south. money that is generated from groundnut,coca,cotton,hide and skin is what they use to drill and build the refineries in the country.Again the northern leaders build all the refineries u r booting with.so furk heaters the north have contribute to make the south what it is now.am proud to be a Northerner,we are not selfish like you ingrates most especially the southerners.we are contempted with what we have in-case you need food come to us or money we will give it to.to hell wit all what they will say.come to north we embrs you with a hrt full of joy,we will notb eat you up like the way southerns do.cos i witness dat in som comunities in akwa ibom. so pls watch you say. |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Nobody: 1:04pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
OVI75:You little ass ho*le. What has religion got to do with the topic? Id*iots like you make me sick... Dude you look starved 1 Like |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by saintkel(m): 1:11pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
drss:U forgot rape. Mind u dat North got dos figures as IGR becos most business men and women r from d south |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Jaymaxxy(m): 1:16pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
trapQ:The same way Islam teaches backwardness in Saudi, Qatar, kuwait, and others right? |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Ferdinandu(m): 1:24pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Their main problem is their Leaders. They are all kleptomaniacs and dull brains who knows nothing but to think that it is southern oil or nothing making their people to believe the same. The IBBs, Abubakars, Danjumas, Atikus, Kwankwasos, etc are their problem. The one that look like if he doesn't steal doesn't have any other idea but to share the oil money. |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Nobody: 1:24pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
drss:you forgot to mention the general attitude towards education...which tends to follow them wherever they migrate to...Our abouoki at the gate has 1 3 yr old boy running around all day, not going to school...How will he learn to read or write?! |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by drss(m): 1:27pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
gmyguy:dem hate school no be small. |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Prestdude: 1:27pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Am currently serving the nation in Jigawa state, one of the core northern state, in my short stay here, i've come to discover that the north has an unquestionable human advantage compared to the south, however, I stand to be corrected, 60 to 70% of the northern population are un productive, this is quite alarming. Over 50% are stark illiterate (Mostly women) who cant even make a single sentence in pigeon english, talk less of pure english. Emphasis on Arabic is high, you can easily find people who understand Arabic than people who understand english. @Op, the problem of the north isn't some thing we can wish away. It's quite deep, most at times I pity their level of understanding.. In my own opinion, Religion, their political elite are the major problem of the North. It can be fixed, if only they are willing to. Here a man can send his children to learn Arabic instead of sending them to a normal school. Even those in my school doesn't take school work seriously... 2 Likes |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by drss(m): 1:29pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
saintkel:apart from free oil money from ss n se, north no dey generate any income. 1 Like |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by drss(m): 1:32pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
all4naija:they call demselves born to rule. 1 Like |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Nobody: 1:32pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
drss:so sad...i honestly feel the educated northerners are to blame...I was shocked at the disparity during my NYSC...it was disgusting...that almajiri thing too is a very undignified attitude...it can never happen in the south west, we'll rather starve to death, than beg for left-overs 2 Likes |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by klax(m): 1:36pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
You want to tell us why Northern state perform poorly Pls why telling us when a group of apes descendant of outcast called Ishmael refused to grow up what do you expect Attack on boko haram is attack on the North baah and they want development or internally generated revenue They are not serious, that man called poverty will strike them to death and total extinction. If Saudi that born mohammmed can be this peaceful and enjoy booms in everything but the useless idiots from the North who does not even know if mohammmed is black or pink took religion over their heads and want to die for it and want progress and industrial boom to generate internal revenue must be out of their senses. Una never sabi anything yet. 3 Likes |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Stkilda(m): 1:40pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
The Russians once helped you in your unsuccessful attempt to wipe out the Igbo. That was 1967. It is 2015 and the Russians aren’t coming to help you anymore. You just have to do it by yourselves, but that, of course, would be after you are done wiping out yourselves. WIZGUY69: 1 Like |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by NOBODYY: 1:48pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
odave: Oga 40 decades is equal to 400 years (ie 40 x 10= 400) While 4 decades is equal to 40 years (ie 4 x 10 = 40) So that bros is correct...its 4 decades not 40 decades 1 Like |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by ohenhen1: 1:51pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
I don't agree with number 1 and number 2. States like Kano get a lot of Federal government allocation. Sokoto is safe and it is struggling. Kano that has the most local governments in Nigeria and it is the 2nd most populated state in Nigeria is struggling. The reason why the North is struggling are. 1. Climate Change- Deforestation, the Northern leaders have failed to plan. They should invest in irrigation projects and dry farming. Instead the y are building airports and stadiums. They are sending people on hajj. 2. Sharia Law- discrimination of women. Girls getting married at an early age. You lose half of your human resources due to Sharia law. 3. Education- the Northern leaders again have failed their people. Girls are not in school. Teachers that don't meet the required standards are not sacked. The WAEC result is terrible. 4. Corruption- Northern leaders like Abacha have failed their people. They loot the country send the money abroad. Money in the billions. The money that was mean't to be used to improve infrastructure. Infrastructure that can create wealth. 5. Lack of infrastructure development. The Northern leaders believe in more socialism programs than making sound investments that will create wealth. Just look at Kano giving grants to women to start a business. The right approach would have been a loan not a grant. Use the money to improve Infrastructure. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Kennydoc(m): 1:52pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Martins301: Lol. A decade is a period of 10 years. 4 decades is forty years. I'm sure somebody would have pointed it out to you, but I wonder why you haven't made the correction. A century is a period of 100 years. |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Nobody: 1:59pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
the North should.be cut off... they bring nothing to the table. 2 Likes |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by drss(m): 2:05pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Vikkie14:two bottles of Orijin for u! |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Nobody: 2:06pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Kennydoc: The person I quoted said the Northerners have ruled Nigeria for 40 DECADES. So I pointed out to him that Nigeria is just a little over 100 years and his 40 decades means 400 years. If u have problem understansing my post keep rereading it till u do but please dnt quote me to explain a simple sentence to u again. 2 Likes |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by NaijaFutbol: 2:06pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Martins301: Very biased view in my own opinion. The only solution which most people shy away from mentioning is true Federalism. The North have ruled this country for so long, they control all the resources, but what has the region benefited? even my grand father that was stripped of all his wealth in Markurdi and given 10 shillings to start life afresh, has ensured that his generation fare better. Laziness, power drunkenness and religious bondage is the problem. Gaskiya! 1 Like |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Obynolee(f): 2:07pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Martins301: I disagree with you on your first point, before the insecurity where are they on the chat 1 Like |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by AreaFada2: 2:14pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
omonnakoda: I disagree. Kano & Kaduna perform very poorly. Except of course Kano is not as populated as we're made to believe during Census. Kano that is said to have same or more population than Lagos has a lower IGR than Edo State. It just doesn't add up. We also know that the ethnic and religious mix of Kwara/Kogi differ much from Kano, and a little from Kaduna too. The North should not hide between Kogi & Kwara. Nasarawa can emulate Ogun State, harnessing its proximity to Lagos and benefit from proximity to Abuja. Kaduna should be a very industrialised hub too. Considering how strategic it is. 1 Like |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Kennydoc(m): 2:15pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Martins301:Okay, no vex. I saw 40 decades and read it as 4 decades. My bad.. |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Fablonwa: 2:21pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
[/color] Martins301: 2. Poverty It is no rumour that states with the highest level of poverty are in the North. If poverty is high, how can their state government raise revenue from the people? Eradicate poverty and watch their IGR rise. NORTH HAS RULED FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS OF NIGERIAN INDEPENDENCE. IF POVERTY IS IN THEIR LAND WHEN THEY HAVE ALWAYS OCCUPIED THE RULERSHIP POSITION OF THIS COUNTRY WHAT WILL YOU EXPECT FROM THE EAST WHERE AFTER THE WAR THEY WERE ENTITLED TO ONLY 20 POUNDS IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE THE WAR AND THEIR PROPERTY SIEZED ACROSS NIGERIA. YET THEY ARE ABOUT THE MOST EGALITARIAN SECT IN NIGERIA. 3. Emphasis On Crude Oil By Government Since 1976, successive Nigerian governments continue to see crude oil as a cheap and quick means of raising revenue. The result is that, development, improvement and investment in agriculture (this is where Northern states have comparative advantage) has declined over the years and so also has revenue that could have been gotten by state governors in the North from the agricultural sector. NO SINGLE DROP OF OIL IN THE NORTH YET THEY DEPEND ON OIL, WHAT A PARADOX? OIL DID NOT POLLUTE THEIR ENVIRONMENT YET THEY ARE BLAMING OIL FOR THEIR POOR IGR I SMH. 4. Underdeveloped Tax System Relative to the South, tax system in the North can be described as underdeveloped. All factors listed above also contribute to this.issue. With an ineffective method of collecting, remitting and accounting for taxes collected in the Northern states, expecting their IGR to grow is like expecting a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. THEY ARE SIMPLY PARASITIC HENCE THEY WOULD DIE INSTEAD OF ALLOWING TRUE FEDERALISM. N.B That the West, East and Southern states have high IGR is pointer to the fact that their tax system is improving. However, an IGR that is fuelled by double taxation and all other sorts of parasitic means of raising revenue by state government of these regions is totally unacceptable. 5. Capitalism vs Socialism I have observed that much of the IGR of the non Northern region is contributed by the private sector. This means that capitalism is gaining root in this region compared to the North. Although there is the inherent tendency of exploitation in a capitalist society, Northern state governments should continue to encourage private sector led growth in their region while providing an enabling environment for businesses to grow. This will help boost their IGR Feel free to contribute meaningfully to this thread. Source: Martins301 ALL MY COMMENTS IN RED |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by Fablonwa: 2:28pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Fablonwa: Martins301: The purpose of this thread is not to encourage states in the Northern region to continue to perform poorly in terms of Internally Generated Revenue, but to identify factors that are causing the problem: with a view to eradicating it, and also to inform Nigerians so they can have a balanced perception. So here are the reasons: 1. Insecurity Businesses can only prosper in a safe and secure environment. It is from those businesses that government can raise revenue through taxation. With the activities of Boko Haram and dare devil Herd's men, we have seen a dramatic deterioration in the security of lives and properties in the North. Hence, businesses activities have declined there and so also has IGR. Improve security in the North and watch investment flood in and watch their IGR skyrocket. [color=#990000]WHO BROUGHT ABOUT INSECURITY IN THE NORTH - NOTHERNERS, BTW WHEN DID BH START AND WHAT WAS THE IGR PRIOR TO BH IN NORTH EAST? 2. Poverty It is no rumour that states with the highest level of poverty are in the North. If poverty is high, how can their state government raise revenue from the people? Eradicate poverty and watch their IGR rise. NORTH HAS RULED FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS OF NIGERIAN INDEPENDENCE. IF POVERTY IS IN THEIR LAND WHEN THEY HAVE ALWAYS OCCUPIED THE RULERSHIP POSITION OF THIS COUNTRY WHAT WILL YOU EXPECT FROM THE EAST WHERE AFTER THE WAR THEY WERE ENTITLED TO ONLY 20 POUNDS IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE THE WAR AND THEIR PROPERTY SIEZED ACROSS NIGERIA. YET THEY ARE ABOUT THE MOST EGALITARIAN SECT IN NIGERIA. 3. Emphasis On Crude Oil By Government Since 1976, successive Nigerian governments continue to see crude oil as a cheap and quick means of raising revenue. The result is that, development, improvement and investment in agriculture (this is where Northern states have comparative advantage) has declined over the years and so also has revenue that could have been gotten by state governors in the North from the agricultural sector. NO SINGLE DROP OF OIL IN THE NORTH YET THEY DEPEND ON OIL, WHAT A PARADOX? OIL DID NOT POLLUTE THEIR ENVIRONMENT YET THEY ARE BLAMING OIL FOR THEIR POOR IGR I SMH. 4. Underdeveloped Tax System Relative to the South, tax system in the North can be described as underdeveloped. All factors listed above also contribute to this.issue. With an ineffective method of collecting, remitting and accounting for taxes collected in the Northern states, expecting their IGR to grow is like expecting a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. THEY ARE SIMPLY PARASITIC HENCE THEY WOULD DIE INSTEAD OF ALLOWING TRUE FEDERALISM. N.B That the West, East and Southern states have high IGR is pointer to the fact that their tax system is improving. However, an IGR that is fuelled by double taxation and all other sorts of parasitic means of raising revenue by state government of these regions is totally unacceptable. 5. Capitalism vs Socialism I have observed that much of the IGR of the non Northern region is contributed by the private sector. This means that capitalism is gaining root in this region compared to the North. Although there is the inherent tendency of exploitation in a capitalist society, Northern state governments should continue to encourage private sector led growth in their region while providing an enabling environment for businesses to grow. This will help boost their IGR Feel free to contribute meaningfully to this thread. Source: Martins301 MY COMMENTS IN CAPITAL LETTERS |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by matrixme(m): 2:44pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Buhari can appoint his elites from every northern state in all his remaining appointments for all I care, it still would not change the inherent value system in the North. I fear to say that even after his tenure, we may not see much improvement in that political zone. You can never apply make up on the human nature. 2 Likes |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by hammariise(m): 2:45pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
drss:Leadership north The richest black people north The slayer of OJUKWU north The crusher of biafrauds pets north |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by jantavanta(m): 2:49pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
The USA has its North & South or rather, South & North differences. Even the State of California has its North & South. Kano State was more industrialized than Lagos, before it became what I call "Kanostan". |
Re: IGR: 5 Reasons Why Northern States Perform Poorly by wiseoneking: 2:56pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Martins301:just correct him that it is 4 decades. You are more tribalistic than him. You are so quick to call him name. Kettle and black pot. |
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