trapQ:
Solutions

-quality education
_discard islam and sharia (their religion teaches them to be backward)
_build industries (this will create jobs and reduce poverty)
- encourage commercial or large farming
-stop depending on oil allocations

Basically everything else.

your second point is nothing but rubbish. I am a muslim from the south and my religion doesn't taught me to be a backward thinker, I am a progressive person.

trapQ:
Solutions

-quality education
_discard islam and sharia (their religion teaches them to be backward)
_build industries (this will create jobs and reduce poverty)
- encourage commercial or large farming
-stop depending on oil allocations

Basically everything else.

I guess UAE is not an Islamic country. Bro/sis, ur hate for Islam won't change anything.

ohenhen1:
3. Education- the Northern leaders again have failed their people. Girls are not in school. Teachers that don't meet the required standards are not sacked. The WAEC result is terrible.

Brother, WAEC is not terrible here at all. Am serving in a school and they do so well. However, they do well because they get massive help from teachers, from day 1 to the final day of exam, answers are written for them on the board. They still get the favour of having their exams marked within the region.

NaijaFutbol:


Very biased view in my own opinion.
The only solution which most people shy away from mentioning is true Federalism.
The North have ruled this country for so long, they control all the resources, but what has the region benefited?

even my grand father that was stripped of all his wealth in Markurdi and given 10 shillings to start life afresh, has ensured that his generation fare better.

Laziness, power drunkenness and religious bondage is the problem.

Gaskiya!

I agree. True federalism is d only solution to nigerias wealth. The main problem in d north is insecurity. Most pples factories get burnt during riots. Their brains touch easily so its not a comfortable business environment.

Another issue pple forget is dt before d 70's there was no oil money. The north was one of d mega producers of resources in this country. So it is possible if everyone is pushed to d wall (through fedealism) to produce sthn.

All d states in Nigeria are poor wt d exception of lagos and d oil rich states. Its actually pathetic d way we are comparing regions over peanut money. This country can do a GAZILLION times better. But we dont have visionaries as leaders. Pple are ruled by fear. Dts why they go to steal and enrich their families ONLY. With all d billions pumped into d SS, there isnt much to show for it. Even d militants went to collect their own billions & temporarily forgot their struggle till aboki came again. Dts why no one takes their struggle seriously.

We need to stop being ruled by fear & greed. We should have a federal plan towards federalism. Each state should be challenged to provide a blueprint for wealth creation as a pathway to true federalism. This should be aggressively iplemented by d states & d federal govenment. Ther should be a public report card shaming non producers. When ddeadline is reached, govt should stop all this sharing of money. Only 30% of revenue shld be remitted to d centre. Any state dt cant cope should issue a bond to raise money.

Also d presidency should be rotated across d 6 regions every 6 yrs. No 2 terms. And if we really want peace, political parties must remain as they are and not go regional. When its d SE's turn for presidency, APC/PDP/APGA/Labour must produce only SE candidates for us all to vote. We cannot continue wt d status quo. Elections are not representative and its unfair dt an akwaibom man, an igala man or a kalabari will NEVER become president cos d majority vote on sentiments of tribe and religion. Dt is a wrong dt should be corrected and theres precedent. Switzerland practices a rotational presidency and is very peaceful.

[quote author=coolzeal post=39373976]The fact that the Northerners has ruled Nigeria for over 4 decades without improvement or development or whatsoever speaks to the psychology and poor mental awareness of these people. They've conspired to rip and plunder the wealth of this nation and has continue doing so yet, The North can't justify their embezzlement and political power to better their impoverished citizens. It beats me to death that Igbo's share the same country with these folks but, for how long?


by reading what you wrote I pitied you... because you have sectional orientation; you might not know but that is what is echoing to you that when northerners where at the center of power they supposed to have developed their region firstly or at the soonest possible time......but that was not what they did as supposed of them.....they were supposed to develop Nigeria evenly with no priority what so ever of where you are coming from........but instead of you to appreciate the good things they did to your region and do the same.........no the reverse is the case.......
What are you proud of is it not the mainland bridge built by IBB or the refineries built by Buhari........i am not defending all the action or decision of Northern leaders but rather just responding to your statement.....lastly before oil was discovered North was feeding the nation and with out laments of parasites and co........

Prestdude:
Am currently serving the nation in Jigawa state, one of the core northern state, in my short stay here, i've come to discover that the north has an unquestionable human advantage compared to the south, however, I stand to be corrected, 60 to 70% of the northern population are un productive, this is quite alarming.
Over 50% are stark illiterate (Mostly women) who cant even make a single sentence in pigeon english, talk less of pure english.
Emphasis on Arabic is high, you can easily find people who understand Arabic than people who understand english.
@Op, the problem of the north isn't some thing we can wish away. It's quite deep, most at times I pity their level of understanding.. In my own opinion, Religion, their political elite are the major problem of the North.
It can be fixed, if only they are willing to. Here a man can send his children to learn Arabic instead of sending them to a normal school. Even those in my school doesn't take school work seriously...

You have said it all.The Northern elites and their Religious leaders are the problem of the north, If the religious leaders had taken their stand against the insurgence of Boko Haram,Boko Haram would have been nipped in the bud by now.Ex- president Goodluck Jonathan spend Billions of Naira constructing Schools for the Alimajaries but all has gone down the drain,I guess there is a need for aggressive massive campaign by the elites to let the people know the importance and value of education.There is also the need to either reorientate the religious leaders that they should tolerate other tribes irrespective of their religion, ethnicity and language and that education is the best legacy they can ever have,this will go a long way in restructuring the north altogether.

Get over yourself, who hates islam?? When someone speaks the truth, first thing yall say is hate.

How many islamic countries are habitable?? Stop deluding yourself. Take a look at the world's top 10 most dangerous countries, 9 out of 10 are all ISLAMIC EXTREMIST countries... The UAE you speak of has so many babaric laws, but its less when compared to the others obviously because it has only 75% muslims.

Islam is worse than ebola..bye!!

Adek15:
I guess UAE is not an Islamic country. Bro/sis, ur hate for Islam won't change anything.

[quote author=ArcIbrahim38 post=39381629][/quote] Mind you, the East had coal, Agricultural produce etc. And are leading economically than any region before the discovering of oil. However, can you please high-lighten any substantial Federal government projects sited in the Eastern part of Nigeria? I can go on and on but i will list few.

Second Niger bridge none.
Functioning International airport none.
Function sea port none.
FG roads in the east are dead traps.
Policies to render the Igbo's economy pauper.
The 1972 Idenization decree code
The 20 pounds policy.. etc.

What am saying in essence is that, the Northerners have more advantage in the scheme of things governing the affairs of this nation than any other region or ethnic group yet, they are still impoverished.
Please hold your leaders to account for all the massive looting's occurred from the nation treasury.

Your kins men together with their British masters killed over 3.5million of innocent Biafrans mostly women and children and you think karma ain't real. Sorry man..... Whatever goes around comes back around but this time in a million fold. Go figure.

drss:
Iliitracy north.
Poverty north.
Polio n Vvf north.
Backwardness north.
Stone age way of life north.
Almajirinism north.
Dependence on govt north.
Begging north.
Family unplanning north.
Terrorism north.
Free oil money is wat dem northerners want, nothing else. A.b.o.k.i will alway be A.b.o.k.i

Prostituti0n south
Kidnapping south
Baby factory south
Fake goods south
Armed robbery south
Scammers south
Yahoo boys south
Vandals south
Oil bunkerers south
Militants south
Rape south
Teen pregnancy south
Human trafficking south
Burglars south
Adultery south
Car snatching south
Alcoholism south
Cocaine south
Thugs for hire south
Assassins south
Brigands south
Loiterers south
Rituals south
Cultism south
Juju south
Pull him downism south
Broken families south
Late marriages to overused women south
False prophets south
Racketeering pastors south


No wonder the north is full of yeebos and their dirty cousins from the swamps of the delta trying to eke out a living.

omowolewa:
The beauty of it is that Northern states can still bounce back if they can leverage on Agriculture.

The best capitalist we have in Nigeria is a Northerner mind you. Rise in IGR doesn't necessarily mean a rise in standard of living, unemployment level or purchasing power of the citizen. What is necessary here is to look at every other standards to measuring if Northern governors needs to go back to the drawing board.

Lets take for instance, Nasarawa which is closer to Abuja should have leveraged on that to improve its IGR.

When the North is ready to leave the 'ranka-dey-dey' way of life, bull-shit the National cake, take their destiny into their hands then you will see the improvements.

You made a nice observation.

If they spent more than on productive ventures like agric, education and less time on sleeping with undergaged girls they d do better.

Of those the muslims in the south aren't backward compared to those in the north. This isn't even argueable.

aleem50:
your second point is nothing but rubbish. I am a muslim from the south and my religion doesn't taught me to be a backward thinker, I am a progressive person.

You shouldve mentioned only UAE and QATAR. The rest are still backward in many aspects. Countries that don't let women drive or go out alone? Lmao! Countries that practice babaric "honor killings" and public executions in the form of entertainment... Yes, they are backward.

Jaymaxxy:

The same way Islam teaches backwardness in Saudi, Qatar, kuwait, and others right?

Islam and illiteracy is like fire and gunpowder. It has the capacity to destroy more than imagined when combined unfortunately. Why am I not surprised at Northern Nigeria's present calamities?

To make matters worse, greed, laziness and born-to-rule mentality when added to the above give the complete picture.

Nigeria can be great when it decides to break free from the North's undue bad influence...

Martins301:


Ethnic warlord, Nigeria is just a little over 100 years old. 40 decades is 400 years.

Point of correction sir; a decade is 10 years while a century is a 100.

let them invest in agriculture.

All of you here shouting religion you are just being myopic, do you want to say that countries like UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the like are where they are because they are christian countries? Then why is Islam the reason for North's under development

All of you here shouting religion you are just being myopic, do you want to say that countries like UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the like are where they are because they are christian countries? Then why is Islam the reason for North's under development
The main problem of the north is purely environmental and nothing else.

umarc19:



Point of correction sir; a decade is 10 years while a century is a 100.

He is correct 4 decades is 40years while 40 decades is 400 years

ExInferis:


Prostituti0n south
Kidnapping south
Baby factory south
Fake goods south
Armed robbery south
Scammers south
Yahoo boys south
Vandals south
Oil bunkerers south
Militants south
Rape south
Teen pregnancy south
Human trafficking south
Burglars south
Adultery south
Car snatching south
Alcoholism south
Cocaine south
Thugs for hire south
Assassins south
Brigands south
Loiterers south
Rituals south
Cultism south
Juju south
Pull him downism south
Broken families south
Late marriages to overused women south
False prophets south
Racketeering pastors south


No wonder the north is full of yeebos and their dirty cousins from the swamps of the delta trying to eke out a living.

pls tell them ooo

carinmom:

He is correct 4 decades is 40years while 40 decades is 400 years

yes 40decades should be 400years, but it is more appropriate to say 4centuries, just like how it is more appropriate to say 4thousand(4,000) instead of 40hundred(4000).

I would discard anything that incites violence or commands me to kill people of other faith.... Unfortunately, christian isn't.

Martins301:


Thanks. We need more like this. BTW will u discard christianity if u were told 2 do so 2 make IGR grow in ur state?

Martins301:
The purpose of this thread is not to encourage states in the Northern region to continue to perform poorly in terms of Internally Generated Revenue, but to identify factors that are causing the problem: with a view to eradicating it, and also to inform Nigerians so they can have a balanced perception. So here are the reasons:

1. Insecurity
Businesses can only prosper in a safe and secure environment. It is from those businesses that government can raise revenue through taxation. With the activities of Boko Haram and dare devil Herd's men, we have seen a dramatic deterioration in the security of lives and properties in the North. Hence, businesses activities have declined there and so also has IGR. Improve security in the North and watch investment flood in and watch their IGR skyrocket.

2. Poverty
It is no rumour that states with the highest level of poverty are in the North. If poverty is high, how can their state government raise revenue from the people? Eradicate poverty and watch their IGR rise.

3. Emphasis On Crude Oil By Government
Since 1976, successive Nigerian governments continue to see crude oil as a cheap and quick means of raising revenue. The result is that, development, improvement and investment in agriculture (this is where Northern states have comparative advantage) has declined over the years and so also has revenue that could have been gotten by state governors in the North from the agricultural sector.

4. Underdeveloped Tax System
Relative to the South, tax system in the North can be described as underdeveloped. All factors listed above also contribute to this.issue. With an ineffective method of collecting, remitting and accounting for taxes collected in the Northern states, expecting their IGR to grow is like expecting a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.

N.B
That the West, East and Southern states have high IGR is pointer to the fact that their tax system is improving. However, an IGR that is fuelled by double taxation and all other sorts of parasitic means of raising revenue by state government of these regions is totally unacceptable.

5. Capitalism vs Socialism
I have observed that much of the IGR of the non Northern region is contributed by the private sector. This means that capitalism is gaining root in this region compared to the North. Although there is the inherent tendency of exploitation in a capitalist society, Northern state governments should continue to encourage private sector led growth in their region while providing an enabling environment for businesses to grow. This will help boost their IGR

Feel free to contribute meaningfully to this thread.

Source: Martins301

You forgot one of the most important ones:

Religion

When you bury yourself and life in a religion and let theocracy (especially one like Islam) be a major influence in your policy-making and ways of working, it is highly likely to impact your economic activities and hold you back (both economically and mental-development-wise).

It affects your economic activities through the narrowing of the breadth and progressiveness of your policies and work to a myopic level. It also reduces the quality of education you can give and is receivable by your people (the workforce) to help develop the economy.

If you go to the North, many of the higher-skilled jobs in the private sector is conducted by Southerners. Just the way you will have it even in Dubai.

Lets be blunt!

lexiconkabir:
yes 40decades should be 400years, but it is more appropriate to say 4centuries, just like how it is more appropriate to say 4thousand(4,000) instead of 40hundred(4000).

Yes you are right, thanx.

carinmom:
Yes you are right, thanx.

you welcome ma .

janellemonae:


I agree. True federalism is d only solution to nigerias wealth. The main problem in d north is insecurity. Most pples factories get burnt during riots. Their brains touch easily so its not a comfortable business environment.

Another issue pple forget is dt before d 70's there was no oil money. The north was one of d mega producers of resources in this country. So it is possible if everyone is pushed to d wall (through fedealism) to produce sthn.

All d states in Nigeria are poor wt d exception of lagos and d oil rich states. Its actually pathetic d way we are comparing regions over peanut money. This country can do a GAZILLION times better. But we dont have visionaries as leaders. Pple are ruled by fear. Dts why they go to steal and enrich their families ONLY. With all d billions pumped into d SS, there isnt much to show for it. Even d militants went to collect their own billions & temporarily forgot their struggle till aboki came again. Dts why no one takes their struggle seriously.

We need to stop being ruled by fear & greed. We should have a federal plan towards federalism. Each state should be challenged to provide a blueprint for wealth creation as a pathway to true federalism. This should be aggressively iplemented by d states & d federal govenment. Ther should be a public report card shaming non producers. When ddeadline is reached, govt should stop all this sharing of money. Only 30% of revenue shld be remitted to d centre. Any state dt cant cope should issue a bond to raise money.

Also d presidency should be rotated across d 6 regions every 6 yrs. No 2 terms. And if we really want peace, political parties must remain as they are and not go regional. When its d SE's turn for presidency, APC/PDP/APGA/Labour must produce only SE candidates for us all to vote. We cannot continue wt d status quo. Elections are not representative and its unfair dt an akwaibom man, an igala man or a kalabari will NEVER become president cos d majority vote on sentiments of tribe and religion. Dt is a wrong dt should be corrected and theres precedent. Switzerland practices a rotational presidency and is very peaceful.

Oil was found in 1957.. So before 1970 there was oil...

The north only produced groundnut then..

The SW cocoa and farmlands with the SE coal and farmland with SS farmland and fishery with central Nigeria's rice and farmland was what built Nigeria..

There is no farmland in the north... Its a desert region..

Don't be deceived by what you read and hear..

ArcIbrahim38:

by reading what you wrote I pitied you...
because you have sectional orientation; you
might not know but that is what is echoing to
you that when northerners where at the center
of power they supposed to have developed their
region firstly or at the soonest possible
time......but that was not what they did as
supposed of them.....they were supposed to
develop Nigeria evenly with no priority what so
ever of where you are coming from........but
instead of you to appreciate the good things
they did to your region and do the
same.........no the reverse is the case.......
What are you proud of is it not the mainland
bridge built by IBB or the refineries built by
Buhari........i am not defending all the action or
decision of Northern leaders but rather just
responding to your statement.....lastly before oil
was discovered North was feeding the nation
and with out laments of parasites and co........

The north only produced groundnut then..

The SW cocoa and farmlands with the SE coal and farmland with SS farmland and fishery with central Nigeria's rice and farmland was what built Nigeria..

There is no farmland in the north... Its a desert region..

Don't be deceived by what you read and hear..

To all those crying about Northern parasites and how the North is draining this country.....I gat one question for you all?

[size=14pt]'What would you do if the oil ran out next week?'[/size]

Of course, the answer is that the whole of Southern society will collapse. The South will revert to the stone age within a week.

Now, I am a Southerner, and yes....I think the North is too dependent on Southern oil.

I also think that the South is too dependent on Southern oil.

And that worries me a lot....because right now, everyone else is producing oil.

Here is a statisitic that should bother you.

In 1996.....America bought half of Nigerian oil. Today....it buys 3%.

Does that tell you something. (And no, it has nothing to do with the North).

You see, the South has the advantage in education, and in development. But since the 1980's, that advantage has not been used to develop the South much better. Right now....the South does not have enough factories, industries, and technical plants. Our kids are enrolled in school at high rates.....and yet...they graduate and have no jobs. (At least the Northern kid who grows up in some village without school can do farming and some business. The Southern kid who spent long time in school, and now has Masters and PhD can do nothing with his hands).

What's more....the average Southern youth is not using his hands AND education to solve problems. For instance.....can anyone tell me the name of any Nigerian company that can manufacture an oil rig from scratch? Can anyone tell me the name of a Nigerian company that can manufacture a cheap cell phone that rural dwellers can use to call people and connect to the internet? Can anyone tell me the name of any Nigerian company that can manufacture a car from scratch? How about a working rifle? Anyone?

The South is just as underdeveloped as the North. What is the use of education when all you do with it is go to work in some oil company or bank at the end of the day...and chop money.....with your engineering degree. What problems have you solved with your degree?

So stop calling the North parasites. We Southerners are just as parasitic as they are. Yes....we are better educated, we are relatively prosperous....but it is a false prosperity built on just chopping money....not working for it.

GodMode:


The north only produced groundnut then..

The SW cocoa and farmlands with the SE coal and farmland with SS farmland and fishery with central Nigeria's rice and farmland was what built Nigeria..

There is no farmland in the north... Its a desert region..

Don't be deceived by what you read and hear..

The North also produced cotton, millet, and a host of other cash crops.(kolanut)....and also has a lot of mineral resources....even now.(Tin and columbite were big money earners for Nigeria in the 1960's and 70's.

As for desert.....it is only the borderland between Niger and Nigeria. Much of the North has lots of arable land for farming.

Sagamite:


You forgot one of the most important ones:

Religion

When you bury yourself and life in a religion and let theocracy (especially one like Islam) be a major influence in your policy-making and ways of working, it is highly likely to impact your economic activities and hold you back (both economically and mental-development-wise).

It affects your economic activities through the narrowing of the breadth and progressiveness of your policies and work to a myopic level. It also reduces the quality of education you can give and is receivable by your people (the workforce) to help develop the economy.

If you go to the North, many of the higher-skilled jobs in the private sector is conducted by Southerners. Just the way you will have it even in Dubai.

Lets be blunt!

But countries like Malaysia, Indonesia and Turkey are predominantly Moslem yet they aren't technologically backward in any way or are they?

bushdoc9919:


The North also produced cotton, millet, and a host of other cash crops.(kolanut)....and also has a lot of mineral resources....even now.(Tin and columbite were big money earners for Nigeria in the 1960's and 70's.

As for desert.....it is only the borderland between Niger and Nigeria. Much of the North has lots of arable land for farming.

Lies.. The north is a desert region... Central Nigeria is not part of the north.. The north does not contribute anything...

Why are fulanis on a killing spree to the atlantic ocean

Why are fulanis fighting the jukuns and other central Nigeria(benue, kogi, jos e.t.c) tribes

Why can't fulani herdsmen graze in the north

GodMode:


Lies.. The north is a desert region... Central Nigeria is not part of the north.. The north does not contribute anything...

Why are fulanis on a killing spree to the atlantic ocean

Why are fulanis fighting the jukuns and other central Nigeria(benue, kogi, jos e.t.c) tribes

Why can't fulani herdsmen graze in the north

I see the issue I thought I was discussing with you is not what I thought it was.

Good evening.