unphilaz:


from this


so you are swallowing your words and acknowledging that you lied and that what abu dawud and Bhukari wrote was false?

to this

true2god:
Sorry sister you are not making sense, you are just throwing insults left and right. Make a honest debate and stop this rubish insult.

nasiayam:


+100

One of the most articulate, well laid out posts I've had the pleasure of reading.

unphilaz:
facheux just show me from hadith or koran where it is allowed to abrogate the words of allahh and under what condition is such done? then we will know if the status of hasan is a standard and have met the above requirements for abrogation

DeathStroke007:






Hmmmm... No let me abuse you.. Let me just say its your ignorance.. But still we in 21st century, why can't you do research on something before you Post... That shows you lack knowledge and wisdom..





Well, you quoted hadith with no narration chain... This hadith is daif.. Weak hadith.


Hadith is the saying and deeds of prophet Muhammad(saw) written by other people. And we Muslims are told to allow and accept hadith with strong chain of narration from people close to prophet Muhammad (saw)..


This hadith is either weak or it's fake hadith..






To answer your question.... #go read the 10 commandments of moses and emphasize on knowing more on the adultery part#

That's your assignment..



I won't be giving you fools straight answes again.. Na assignment I go dey turn ur questions to for you...





You might say why Bible, because bible is written on rumours. 90% lie, 10% Truth. Among that 10% is the answer to your question

lexiconkabir:
Unphilaz The only book that Allah promised to guard is the Quran, so they are bound to be lies in the hadith, this is not some book, where some anonymous writers wrote a book claiming to be inspired by some "holy spirit" sh!t.

true2god:
If the narration is weak why is there no fatwa to condemn the hadith? If I publish thing against your prophet, in a public magazine, wont your mufti and ayatollas issue a fatwa for me to be killed for blasphemy against your prophet? Is there any official rejection of this hadith, by the council of islamic scholars, aside from classifying it as a weak hadith by some unkown and irrelevant muslims like you?

Take a chill pill, there are thousands of hadiths, without chain of narrators, which spoke well of your prophet and were all clasified sahih (original), why the inconsistency anytime the hadith place your prophet in a bad light? You muslims cant just cherry-pick what you want in the hadith, it is either you accept all hadiths that had been in circulation for hundreds of years or you discard the hadiths altogether.

Some muslims have already discarded the hadith and call themselves 'quran only' muslims. Why are you deceiving yourselve ignorantly?

DeathStroke007:
Am just seeing the title of this thread ni sha...


#laughing#

Wahala wa o..



This Christians and lies sha..



Ma go read the post come show una lies

true2god:
Is it muslims or christians that compiled the hadith? Are u ok?

AlMuflihah:


I told u to learn small Arabic u say no, if u had known d meaning of da'if d amount of disgrace u'll bring upon urself would be a bit minimal...oya let's debate,in a honest and good manner, as academics and intellectuals...but u haven't proven dat u have a brain to debate me with...

facheux:
True =Diarrhea of the mouth; constipation of the ideas

Annunaki:


[s]Yet your useless alllah could not guard parts of the original manuscript from being eaten by a goat. [/s]

lexiconkabir:
unphilaz, stop trolling! Every Muslim knows that the Hadith is not 100% perfect, because it was narrated by people claiming they heard this from the prophet, they heard that from the prophet, so one of the ways to detect if the narration is authentic is to check the Quran if it coincides with it, if it does, then it is graded sahih(authentic). Muhammad pbuh cant contradict his Lord, but because the hadith were compiled years after the prophet's death, then they are bound to be lies ascribed to him, and one the ways to detect these lies is to check the Quran, last time i checked, the only book under the guidance of Allah, is the Quran, so the Quran is used to check the authenticity of other books.

lexiconkabir:
Trash from a pagan!

DeathStroke007:






What is this one saying... What you saying is not part of islam.. In fact mi o gbo ri..



Be like say this na una new lie about Islam...

just show me from hadith or koran where it is allowed to abrogate the words of allahh and under what condition is such done? then we will know if the status of hasan is a standard and have met the above requirements for abrogation of the op hadith as either weak or unauthentic. please share so that our muslim apologist will help you

unphilaz:


In other words, if their claims that they heard from the prophet is false, why should any of their other claim be true? As true2god has asked, why keep what is false with what is true? destroy it instead of allowing the falsehood destroy lives which we see in ISIS, BH and you will claim later they are not following the teachings of the prophet when ur imams have refused to destroy the false hadiths... now let me ask you, will you accept that hadiths that are false be deleted and a new hadith be formed?

If allahh will only guide the koran, why did he failed to guide the hadith from been profane with lies by unscrupulous people like Abi Dawud and bukari?

facheux:
He can't help it his face just spews garbage.




So far I've nailed 3 of them as liars.

facheux just show me from hadith or koran where it is allowed to abrogate the words of allahh and under what condition is such done? then we will know if the status of hasan is a standard and have met the above requirements for abrogation of the op hadith as either weak or unauthentic. please share so that our muslim apologist will help you

facheux:
Kuffar missionary tricks.

facheux just show me from hadith or koran where it is allowed to abrogate the words of allahh and under what condition is such done? then we will know if the status of hasan is a standard and have met the above requirements for abrogation of the op hadith as either weak or unauthentic. please share so that our muslim apologist will help you

facheux:

The deeper you dig your lying deceit hole, the farther your lying backside will have to climb out of it

facheux just show me from hadith or koran where it is allowed to abrogate the words of allahh and under what condition is such done? then we will know if the status of hasan is a standard and have met the above requirements for abrogation of the op hadith as either weak or unauthentic. please share so that our muslim apologist will help you

Annunaki:


Is your allaah not a pagan deity?

DeathStroke007:




which mark on prophet Muhammad (saw)...what's this one saying?

unphilaz:


help your bro, facheux has been claiming am lying, just answer this

DeathStroke007:


Hadith is the saying and deeds of prophet Muhammad(saw) written by other people. And we Muslims are told to allow and accept hadith with strong chain of narration from people close to prophet Muhammad (saw)..


This hadith is either weak or it's fake hadith..

Blackfire:


let me juggle your memory , was it not u, who said there was a mark on mohamed shoulder that proved him as a prophet? That he was even warned not to let people in Syria see it..... That there is a place in the bible for it.
Do u remember now? Or u need a kick to ya head? Pls don't play dumb with me next time... It irks me.

unphilaz:


Now Abi Dawud and Bhukari are they not close to the prophet whose narration we are to follow?

unphilaz:


Now Abi Dawud and Bhukari are they not close to the prophet whose narration we are to follow?

lexiconkabir:
Lol, you think you can get me angry, by trolling? everybody including your christian friends here knows that you are an empty barrel that knows nothing! nothing at all in your fish brain, and as they say "an empty barrel makes the loudest noise"

lexiconkabir:
Unphilaz The only book that Allah promised to guard is the Quran, so they are bound to be lies in the hadith, this is not some book, where some anonymous writers wrote a book claiming to be inspired by some "holy spirit" sh!t.

Blackfire:


annunaki is my friend, and he makes alot of sense to me... And that goes to his other friends, abi analice09 am i right?
Omo gidi ni okunrin na.

DeathStroke007:





Wayray re o .. O ya go screen shot where I said it and post the picture here... Oniro oshi..

unphilaz:


Thank you for honestly acknowledging that the hadith is a mixture of half truths and half lies...

so in otherwords, lexixonkabir, would you use the hadith to support the koran since the hadith is laced with lies?

Blackfire:



awon aye ti gba akoso opolo re. Eru Imole alakisa .