AgentOfAllah:


Ever heard of compartmentalism? Aye, one can be a computer genius, or a guru in the subject of logic, and that still wouldn't preclude one from discarding logic when it is, for one reason or other, expedient to do so.

As an example, I am staunchly anti-nationalist, and I believe all borders must be abolished. Nevertheless, I still support Nigeria during international sporting events. My support for Nigeria is, of course, inconsistent with my views on nationalism, so I compartmentalise by conveniently ignoring my anti-national stance, especially when the National team wins, for the kick of exceptionalism which I enjoy for a few minutes! National exceptionalism feels damn good when you're with the winning team, even when it is a demonstrably illogical position!

So, your very religious professors can all be computer science genii, and that still wouldn't mean their religiosity is consistent with logic. If as you claim, belief in god is logical, then such a claim must be scrutinised on its own merit, not by appeal to authority (of your professors), which is a well-studied logical fallacy!

Now, if you paid attention in your Logic classes, you will know that definition of terms must necessary precede their feature in any logical statement. So, if you don't mind, kindly define what you mean by 'god' since, as we all know, the definition is not at all, axiomatic!

Wait a minute , are you insinuating that is illogical to believe that a conscious eternal creator exists and it is logical for the lack of belief ? Elucidate , no circumlocution .

KingEbukasBlog:


Wait a minute , are you insinuating that is illogical to believe that a conscious eternal creator exists and it is logical for the lack of belief ? Elucidate , no circumlocution .

He didn't insinuate anything. He just asked you a question. Can you stop your circumlocution and address what he's asked of you?

PastorAIO:


He didn't insinuate anything. He just asked you a question. Can you stop your circumlocution and address what he's asked of you?

PastorAIO , I try to eschew repeating myself all over again - the whole thing is getting really vapid . Anyway Josh and I discussed in details who God really is on Anony's thread . Here are quotes and a link , you can ask me questions appurtenant to the quotes and link

Joshthefirst:
Here's my take bro:

Genesis 1 : 1

In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

First, the bible tells us who was present at the beginning; the beginning being the origin of all things, of creation itself. God was at beginning. God, is not nothing. God has always existed, He is the I AM, so there has never actually been nothing.

Genesis also says God created the heaven, and the earth. I believe the heaven here doesn't signify the firmament, as that is physical, and was recreated on the physical earth.
Heaven in the verse is the spiritual realm itself.

The Immaterial realm has an origin too, God is the origin of all.

God's foreknowledge is his foreknowledge

Joshthefirst:
Never said God was in infinity. I said God himself is infinity and eternity, and everything is contained in him.

https://www.nairaland.com/2973792/atheism-dead-logic-god-everything

cc : AgentofAllah

KingEbukasBlog:


PastorAIO , I try to eschew repeating myself all over again - the whole thing is getting really vapid . Anyway Josh and I discussed in details who God really is on Anony's thread . Here are quotes and a link , you can ask me questions appurtenant to the quotes and link





https://www.nairaland.com/2973792/atheism-dead-logic-god-everything

cc : AgentofAllah

Eschew ke? Appur-what? WHY are you doing this? WHY?
Bombast is very different from the real thing which is generally easy on the eyes and viscera

KingEbukasBlog:


PastorAIO , I try to eschew repeating myself all over again - the whole thing is getting really vapid . Anyway Josh and I discussed in details who God really is on Anony's thread . Here are quotes and a link , you can ask me questions appurtenant to the quotes and link


https://www.nairaland.com/2973792/atheism-dead-logic-god-everything

cc : AgentofAllah

One cannot be aware of every thread on nairaland. I have some questions on your notion of god though. I'm not sure if this thread is the right place, but shaaa…


I recall you saying God lives in eternity. But here you have put in firmly in Time. You have him in the beginning. How do you square that circle?

When you say God IS infinity, are you referring to the mathematical term infinity? I ask because there are many infinities and some infinities are more than other infinities.

PastorAIO:


One cannot be aware of every thread on nairaland. I have some questions on your notion of god though. I'm not sure if this thread is the right place, but shaaa…


I recall you saying God lives in eternity. But here you have put in firmly in Time. You have him in the beginning. How do you square that circle?

When you say God IS infinity, are you referring to the mathematical term infinity? I ask because there are many infinities and some infinities are more than other infinities.

How many infinities?

omonnakoda:
Eschew ke? Appur-what? WHY are you doing this? WHY?
Bombast is very different from the real thing which is generally easy on the eyes and viscera

Brother , Im not sure why you are concerned with my use of words . I know so many words and synonyms , so what exactly is the problem .

Eschew - avoid
appurtenant - pertinent or relevant , in the context used here though

omonnakoda:
How many infinities?

An infinity number, to be precise.

PastorAIO:


One cannot be aware of every thread on nairaland. I have some questions on your notion of god though. I'm not sure if this thread is the right place, but shaaa…


I recall you saying God lives in eternity. But here you have put in firmly in Time. You have him in the beginning. How do you square that circle?

When you say God IS infinity, are you referring to the mathematical term infinity? I ask because there are many infinities and some infinities are more than other infinities.

No p . Anyway ,

God is eternal - have always been , never had a beginning , neither would he have an end .

Infinity - boundless . No end

In the beginning - the creation of time . Time is a constituent of our material universe . God is not of our material universe .

God transcends Time . God sees all of eternity’s past and eternity’s future. The time that passes on earth is of no consequence from God’s timeless perspective. A second is no different from an eon; a billion years pass like seconds to the eternal God.

So in relation to our observation of time , God transcends it since he is eternal .

KingEbukasBlog:


Brother , Im not sure why you are concerned with my use of words . I know so many words and synonyms , so what exactly is the problem .

Eschew - avoid
appurtenant - pertinent or relevant , in the context used here though

There is something Obhiagboid about the way you use your words when clearly your grasp of the basics is weak.It seems you are trying too hard...........

omonnakoda:
There is something Obhiagboid about the way you use your words when clearly your grasp of the basics is weak.It seems you are trying too hard...........

Grasp of what basics ? Trying too hard ?

Anyway your nairaland account , your opinion .

My choice of words , not yours

Oh ... omonnakoda . Im a sesquipedalianist . So that's why

KingEbukasBlog:


No p . Anyway ,

God is eternal - have always been , never had a beginning , neither would he have an end .

Infinity - boundless . No end

In the beginning - the creation of time . Time is a constituent of our material universe . God is not of our material universe .

God transcends Time . God sees all of eternity’s past and eternity’s future. The time that passes on earth is of no consequence from God’s timeless perspective. A second is no different from an eon; a billion years pass like seconds to the eternal God.

So in relation to our observation of time , God transcends it since he is eternal .

Good lawd!! You actually don't know the meaning of eternity!!

How can eternity have a past and a future? Past, future, present, beginning, ending.. these are all words referring to Time.

Perhaps you mean to say sempiternity. But even then if a billion years just passes like seconds that could mean he's so daft he cannot tell the time. That doesn't mean that he is timeless. Timeless wouldn't even feel seconds either. Timelessness has it's own quality totally separate from the feeling of the passage of time.

omonnakoda:
There is something Obhiagboid about the way you use your words when clearly your grasp of the basics is weak.It seems you are trying too hard...........

Allow the guy jor. Is he the only nigerian like that? Although it is obvious that he thinks that it makes him sound intelligent.

KingEbukasBlog:


Grasp of what basics ? Trying too hard ?

Anyway your nairaland account , your opinion .

My choice of words , not yours

Basics of English grammar and syntax! I called you out on this only yesterday but you continue to inundate us with an endless barrage of solecisms without contrition and then you try to cover up the core problem with all this bombast. Please keep it simple............ Simplicity is the hallmark of true mastery of language

PastorAIO:


Good lawd!! You actually don't know the meaning of eternity!!

How can eternity have a past and a future? Past, future, present, beginning, ending.. these are all words referring to Time.

Perhaps you mean to say sempiternity. But even then if a billion years just passes like seconds that could mean he's so daft he cannot tell the time. That doesn't mean that he is timeless. Timeless wouldn't even feel seconds either. Timelessness has it's own quality totally separate from the feeling of the passage of time.

"From God's timeless perspective "

Smh . I'm simply explaining how God sees things . So you wouldn't be asking unnecessary questions as usual . If you would resort to mockery as your response to what you fail to understand then let me be . I dont have that time now . Thanks

PastorAIO:




Allow the guy jor. Is he the only nigerian like that? Although it is obvious that he thinks that it makes him sound intelligent.

Well it really grates,it is too annoying too laboured and too "too".
It is quite likely he believes he is an accomplished user of language. Someone has to tell him the truth

KingEbukasBlog:


"From God's timeless perspective "

Smh . I'm simply explaining how God sees things . So you wouldn't be asking unnecessary questions as usual . If you would resort to mockery as your response to what you fail to understand then let me be . I dont have that time now . Thanks

How God sees things.......Hmm
Is this information available on God's Blog?

omonnakoda:
Basics of English grammar and syntax! I called you out on this only yesterday but you continue to inundate us with an endless barrage of solecisms without contrition and then you try to cover up the core problem with all this bombast. Please keep it simple............ Simplicity is the hallmark of true mastery of language

Solecisms ? Because you made just one correction ? Are you Kevin Hart ?

Its getting creepy . Can you stop being unnecessarily punctilious and let me be

KingEbukasBlog:
Oh ... omonnakoda . Im a sesquipedalianist . So that's why

That is very droll indeed but still you might wish to spend some money purchasing "Brighter Grammar"

omonnakoda:
How God sees things.......Hmm
Is this information available on God's Blog?

God's blog ? You mean the bible ?

PastorAIO:




Allow the guy jor. Is he the only nigerian like that? Although it is obvious that he thinks that it makes him sound intelligent.

Your nairaland account , your opinion .

KingEbukasBlog:


Solecisms ? Because you made just one correction ? Are you Kevin Hart ?

Its getting creepy . Can you stop being unnecessarily punctilious and let me be

Unfortunately there is no ignore button and so you continue to inflict and afflict us with your bizarre blather

KingEbukasBlog:


God's blog ? You mean the bible ?

I don't mean anything just asked a question. By the way who wrote the Bible?

omonnakoda:
That is very droll indeed but still you might wish to spend some money purchasing "Brighter Grammar"

Try to keep up if you are lagging behind . Improving one's vocabulary , knowing when a particular word suites a context - PastorAIO just told an ignorant joke .

KingEbukasBlog:


Try to keep up if you are lagging behind . Improving one's vocabulary , knowing when a particular word suites a context - PastorAIO just told an ignorant joke .

Yes but is it not wise to start with the basics first.You know, like understand when "suits" suits and not "suites". Simplicity is the secret. One can always tell when a generator is working too hard..........

KingEbukasBlog:


"From God's timeless perspective "

Smh . I'm simply explaining how God sees things . So you wouldn't be asking unnecessary questions as usual . If you would resort to mockery as your response to what you fail to understand then let me be . I dont have that time now . Thanks

You are telling me that from God's timeless perspective he can look into the eternal future and the eternal past.

omonnakoda:
How God sees things.......Hmm
Is this information available on God's Blog?

He doesn't need to read any blog. God told him personally when he was talking to himself. As you talk more and more to him you'll slowly start to realise that this god he is talking about is actually himself.

omonnakoda:
Unfortunately there is no ignore button and so you continue to inflict and afflict us with your bizarre blather

The "ignore button" - dont reply a post , its that simple . Ugh ! Mister , are you trying to impress me Why are you trying too hard ? I'm very good with the use of words no doubt but you dont have to show me that you can measure up , I really dont care.

omonnakoda:
Unfortunately there is no ignore button and so you continue to inflict and afflict us with your bizarre blather

Now that would be one hell of a useful feature on NL.

PastorAIO:


You are telling me that from God's timeless perspective he can look into the eternal future and the eternal past.



He doesn't need to read any blog. God told him personally when he was talking to himself. As you talk more and more to him you'll slowly start to realise that this god he is talking about is actually himself.

LWTMB
That would explain his weighty PRONOUNCEMENTS

PastorAIO:


You are telling me that from God's timeless perspective he can look into the eternal future and the eternal past.

Why are you repeating what I just said .

He doesn't need to read any blog. God told him personally when he was talking to himself. As you talk more and more to him you'll slowly start to realise that this god he is talking about is actually himself.

At least someone noticed my signature

KingEbukasBlog:


The "ignore button" - dont reply a post , its that simple . Ugh ! Mister , are you trying to impress me Why are you trying too hard ? I'm very good with the use of words no doubt but you dont have to show me that you can measure up , I really dont care.

Lol you are almost funny,vocabulary generally correlates with IQ and when you use words that show an obvious misalignment between the two it is evident to all. Your syntax gives you away. (Remember "BRIGHTER GRAMMAR"