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Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:30am On Apr 28, 2016 |
AgentOfAllah: Why disturb me when you have already conceived in your mind that God's existence is illogical . So gentleman , from my definition , you picked just 'creator ' and then came to this conclusion . "admit that you were wrong to suggest that belief in god (as per your definition) is logical" Wawu . So who created the creators of your wrist watch or your headphones? |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by Logicbwoy: 12:34pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Okay, rather than starting to quote other older discussions as evidence, let me try to demonstrate it with you. Let us continue the argument about the bible not being reliable evidence for God, shall we? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:38pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Logicbwoy: The argument is how can we obtain a suitable definition for God . I insisted that the bible has to be the right source for God's description . So you saying the bible is not the best source ? |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by johnydon22(m): 12:40pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
I am tempted join this but it is already hot enough as it is well **seats on a chair with Hero (O mpa) watching** continue **sips my o mpa** PastorAIO Mmmhm absolutely brilliant here, AgentOfAllah what can i say .. well keep it up guys 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:43pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
AgentOfAllah: Supreme Conscious Creator = God is the Supreme Creator , God is conscious |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by omonnakoda: 12:44pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Why the Bible ? Why not Ifa or the Quran. Why is the Bible right? More importantly is the assumption that there is such a thing as God implicit in your declaration. What is the basis for this claim? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by Logicbwoy: 12:46pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: The bible can not be the right source for God's description for the following reasons 1) The bible was not written by God himself. The bible itself has its human authors. 2) The bible was written by ignorant desert dwellers 3) The contains so much fallacies, falsehoods and illogical arguments such that it can not be trusted on its own. I can expand on number 3, if you like. As for the definition of God, it is an impossible task. Even within christianity, there are various definitions of God. You'd have to pick one of out many to move forward. There are hindu gods, pagan gods and so many other gods outside christianity. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:46pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
omonnakoda: The description of the Christian God should come from the Ifa or the Koran ? Wawu , pls dont stop |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:48pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Logicbwoy: God inspired men to write the bible . So if we should talk of God , it should come from the bible . Please can stop you mentioning other religions cos if you start this old lame trick I'll simply ignore . |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:50pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Logicbwoy: Don't you think the bible should also be best fit for describing other gods outside Christianity ? What do you think ? |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by Logicbwoy: 12:54pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: God also inspired me to tell you that it is a lie that HE inspired men to write the bible. ^^^ Of course, my above statement is a lie. But, the same could be said for your claim that God inspired men to write the bible because there exists no way you can prove that God gave man the inspiration to write it. Also, I maintain that the Christian God is a self refuting paradox and the bible is an erroneous piece of fiction. I can readily prove this if you want 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:55pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Logicbwoy: The bible , illogical arguments ? As in Arguments Anyway , We Christians dont see any aorta of fallacy or falsehood in the bible . 1 Like |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by Logicbwoy: 12:56pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Many other gods and religions existed before the christian God and the bible. By that alone, the christian God is not the alpha and omega.......and the bible is not the best book to describe a god. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by Logicbwoy: 12:57pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Let me give you an example. The bible said that God does not change. But we can see that God changed because he has different behaviours in the new and old testaments. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:59pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Logicbwoy: The Holy Spirit . The Holy Spirit . The Holy Spirit . The teacher of all things would have revealed that the bible is filled with falsehoods and lies to the Christians . Instead , he explains , reveals the interpretations of any biblical texts . Prophecies too . As concerning Israel , the rise of Atheism , false prophecies and doctrines in the last days . We are seeing these materialize in our very eyes |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by omonnakoda: 1:00pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Did you say Christian God? That was not what you said in the post I quoted ,please refer. |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:00pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Logicbwoy: A blatant non sequitur . Answer my question . Dont you think the bible is best fit to describe other gods outside Christianity like the hindu gods or Arabian gods ? |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:02pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
omonnakoda: So who else was I referring to ? |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by Logicbwoy: 1:03pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: You have started again- feigning ignorance. Hindu gods existed before christianity and judaism. Hinduism is one of the oldest religions in the world, if not the oldest. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by omonnakoda: 1:05pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:This claim that God inspired men to write the bible. Can you please state te origin of the claim.Please kindly note the specific nature of my question and respond with a specific answer too. e.g did any of the men that were inspired make such a claim. How, where and when? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by omonnakoda: 1:07pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Please try and talk like an adult. How am I supposed to know what you mean if you do not communicate? I thought you claim to be a logic expert? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:07pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Logicbwoy: This guy ! I asked you a question . Dont you think the bible is best fit for the description of other gods outside Christianity like the hindu gods ? Or has it now dawned on you that you have been making dumb arguments all these while ? |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:09pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
omonnakoda: You are discussing with a Christian and you asked him to define God , who else do you think the description from the bible was for ? The hindu gods Of course , I am describing the Christian God |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by omonnakoda: 1:10pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:And how do I know you are a Christian? |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by Logicbwoy: 1:12pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Have you seen the holy spirit? Has it talked to you? What does it sound like? You make claims without logic or evidence. What prophecies? The bible claims that there would be false prophets in the end times. There have always been false prophets since the beginning of time. Even Moses and Jesus could be false prophets themselves....ironic. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:13pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
omonnakoda: What religion do you think I practice ? Or whose teachings do you think I adhere to ? I need your responses bro . That's how I interact with people . |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:17pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Have you seen the holy spirit? Has it talked to you? What does it sound like? I get what I want when I ask every time . What prophecies? The bible claims that there would be false prophets in the end times. There have always been false prophets since the beginning of time. Even Moses and Jesus could be false prophets themselves....ironic. KingEbuka : Logicbwoy: |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by omonnakoda: 1:18pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:You display bizarre egocentrism that is really astounding. You tell me what car do you think I drive and is it a petrol or diesel engine? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by Logicbwoy: 1:18pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: The bible has a singular concept of god. A single powerful God that controls all spiritual and physical. Hinduism is far more mature that allows for a plurality of gods. Hinduism can be monotheistic and also polytheistic. For something so complex, a singular definition of god can not be enough. Trinitarian christians even recognize this- they see God as three in one- the Father, the Son and the holy spirit. For this reason, the bible is lacking and it is not the best fit for description of gods, especially not the hindu ones which existed before the bible. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:19pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
omonnakoda: Ok bro . |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by Logicbwoy: 1:20pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Thanks for proving me right with your silly comment. You are an artful dodger. I will eat my hat when you concede that you lost an argument 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:25pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Logicbwoy: You accused me of making a claim with a claim . It does not work that way bro |
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