Joshthefirst:
My bloda wahala dey for plaettons head o.

Joshthefirst:
Lolol

Joshthefirst:


Proof of this is humans of course, we are the only species that have this psyco-social selfless evolution working, and we are the only proof that psyco-social selfless evolution exists.

We obviously observed this evolution throughout the ages abi?

I thank you for your genius circular reasoning.

KingEbukasBlog:


I prove and prove tire for that thread

KingEbukasBlog:


God is an embodiment of moral good and is not subject to his law . His acts are justified .

Kay17:


Finally the answer.

plaetton:


Big laugh.

Prove and keep proving to yourself only.
That's the part you don't ever get. Most of your posts are for your own personal validation.
It's only to you that they make any sense.

Seriously.

If only we could honestly tell you what we think of your posts, we might your feelings.

Joshthefirst:
Your question still remains invalid, both from your context of moral relativity, and from the fact that I have never supported rape and genocide, and neither has my God commanded them.

Joshthefirst:

And it doesn't matter, your constant contradiction of your moral position and plaetton's confession of the self-evident nature of evil has pacified my argument.

KingEbukasBlog:


God is an embodiment of moral good and is not subject to his law . His acts are justified .

KingEbukasBlog:


Interesting .

Mao Zedong is a Chinese communist and founding father of the People's Republic of China . As we all know he led and saw through the Great Leap Forward - a social and economic campaign whose goal was to transform the country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through rapid industrialization and collectivization. An Agrarian economy is based on the country's agricultural system - producing and maintaining crops. Funny enough Ethiopia is already adopting this system as they plan to stay ahead as Africa's fastest growing economy . This campaign lasted for three years 1958-1961 .

Mao's intentions translate to the benefits of socialism .

1. The system eliminates greed

2. The Needs of Everyone are met

3. Goods are easily mobilized especially in times of disasters in order to ensure the safety and well being of every citizen affected .

4. There are monopolistic practices . We all know how disadvantageous such practice is .

5. There are no business fluctuations . No discrimination between investment and savings and resources are readily available

So the above or more were Mao's intention and it would put Mao's China in the forefront of civilization and development . Notably , Albeit Einstein - one of the world's greatest minds - was a supporter of socialism .

Effects of His Intentions

1. Great Chinese Famine which ended the lives of millions of people plus the torture given to millions who were not complying to Mao's vision .

2. It was estimated that 1 to 3 million people committed suicide

3. China actually did experience economic growth at some point

4. The Chinese praise Mao for the efforts he made . Without His efforts , there wouldn't have been a new China

So I ask ... Is Mao Zendong a good or evil man ?

KingEbukasBlog:

Which other God And you boldly claim you understand Christianity . That's how you were asking me to make all sorts of proofs in UyiIredia 's Three Arguments for God's existence thread and later ran away when you couldn't answer my question . You and uncle plaetton are the same .

thehomer:


I don't know. Was he an evil man to you?
.

thehomer:


I don't know. Was he an evil man to you?
.

thehomer:


I don't know. Was he an evil man to you?
.

Logicbwoy:


Newsflash for Plaetton!

Joshthelast is the only person in the history of nairaland to frustrate Mr. Troll.
Mr. Troll was one of the best trolls on nairaland. He never got angry and was always calm in dishing out sarcastic and funny replies....

......until he met our dear Joshthelast. Mr. Troll made the mistake of using wit and logic to address Joshthelast but little did he know that logic doesn't work against the bible. Just when Mr. Troll had thrown some logical comments at Josh and it seemed as if they were in agreement, Josh pulled out a bible quote and blasted Mr. Troll with it. Mr. Troll tried to repeat the logical points he made so that they could discuss on common grounds but Josh only blasted him with more bible quotes and christian apologetics.

Mr. Troll seeing the futility of the argument tried to end the discussion. Only for Josh to tell Mr. Troll that he (Mr. Troll) was irrational and was running away because he (Mr. Troll) had weak arguments. Mr. Troll went mad- can you imagine after trying to use logic for over 3 pages of arguments to get to a common ground with someone, the person then tells you that you are irrational!


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I hope Plaetton can learn from this and realise that explaining deep philosophical concepts such as the evolution of human morality and empathy to one who is not ready to listen to logic is a waste of time.

UyiIredia:


I thought you were something of a deist as per that thread. For you not to believe any concept of a God would make you an atheist. Why the change of heart ?

plaetton:


Deepsight,
On the issue of self evident evil quoted above, I have clarified twice on the context in which I wrote that. I am surprised that you still refer to it.

I was merely reminding Josh of the self-evident evi of Yahweh, that is , the clearly evident evil acts of Yahweh as recorded in the Bible.

KingEbukasBlog:


From someone who gives vague definitions . You lack proper understanding of what you mock or ridicule . There is no such thing as 'necessary evil'

PastorAIO:
I can make comparison of hot and cold.

Hmm… should I use the fahrenheit scale as a benchmark?

Or perhaps I should use the celsius scale?

PastorAIO:
I can make comparison of hot and cold.

Hmm… should I use the fahrenheit scale as a benchmark?

Or perhaps I should use the celsius scale?

KingEbukasBlog:


You ask the dumbest questions and give the stupi-dest explanations . You dont know . You are not worth my time . You are shiit . Mention me when you upgrade

DeepSight:


There is.

KingEbukasBlog:


An example sir

thehomer:


Was Jesus' death necessary? Yes or No.

Is the execution of someone who is not guilty of a felony something evil? Yes or No.

thehomer:


How do you think it is assessed in law? You're a lawyer why don't you enlighten me?

KingEbukasBlog:


An example sir

thehomer:

DeepSight:


Stop playing the fisherman where you have the fish already.
You know very well that the reasonable man principle is assessed objectively and never subjectively.

It's not bad to be a poor thinker such as you are, however its sad to be an incorrigible liar.

KingEbukasBlog:


I dont know . Was Jesus death necessary ?

KingEbukasBlog:

I dont know . Is the execution of someone who is not guilty of a felony something evil?

thehomer:




Why are you so angry? If you have the answer, why don't you give it? Or have you finally seen the foolishness of your ways?

thehomer:


The intentions and effects of actions.

KingEbukasBlog:


Interesting .

Mao Zedong is a Chinese communist and founding father of the People's Republic of China . As we all know he led and saw through the Great Leap Forward - a social and economic campaign whose goal was to transform the country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through rapid industrialization and collectivization. An Agrarian economy is based on the country's agricultural system - producing and maintaining crops. Funny enough Ethiopia is already adopting this system as they plan to stay ahead as Africa's fastest growing economy . This campaign lasted for three years 1958-1961 .

Mao's intentions translate to the benefits of socialism .

1. The system eliminates greed

2. The Needs of Everyone are met

3. Goods are easily mobilized especially in times of disasters in order to ensure the safety and well being of every citizen affected .

4. There are no monopolistic practices . We all know how disadvantageous such practice is .

5. There are no business fluctuations . No discrimination between investment and savings and resources are readily available

So the above or more were Mao's intentions and it would put Mao's China in the forefront of civilization and development . Notably , Albeit Einstein - one of the world's greatest minds - was a supporter of socialism .

Effects of His Intentions

1. Great Chinese Famine which ended the lives of millions of people plus the torture given to millions who were not complying to Mao's vision .

2. It was estimated that 1 to 3 million people committed suicide

3. China actually did experience economic growth at some point

4. The Chinese praise Mao for the efforts he made . Without His efforts , there wouldn't have been a new China

So I ask ... Is Mao Zendong a good or evil man ?

thehomer:


I don't know. Was he an evil man to you?
.

KingEbukasBlog:


I dont know . Was Jesus death necessary ?

I dont know . Is the execution of someone who is not guilty of a felony something evil?

DeepSight:


You can't remind anyone of self evident evil if you hold that morality is subjective.

Aside from this, you didn't say anything at all on your more damning statement that "there must always be a benchmark when making comparisons."