johnw74:


I call dolphinheart lie lie because he clearly is a habitual liar




well you got that right, the Son is not the Father



good you got something else right
the jw website has a picture of a god with three heads though, if you want to believe their version of trinity

three bodies with one big head, goodness, no, the Bible doesn't teach that



yes that's the truth



no He never did, you also got that right

If you are not a false jw, you are very similar

and if you don't know that misrepresentation of something is lying
then perhaps have someone explain it to you

goodnews201668:


The fellow has always been displaying immaturity, I wonder the type of person he is.

dolphinheart:


you mean jesus resurrected himself ? that's not what the scriptures teaches!
Ac 5:30 The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, whom you killed, hanging him on a stake.
Ac 2:32 God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses.
Ac 3:15whereas you killed the Chief Agent of life. But God raised him up from the dead, of which fact we are witnesses.
Ac 2:24 But God resurrected him by releasing him from the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held fast by it.
Ac 5:30 The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, whom you killed, hanging him on a stake.
the one who was resurrected and the one who did the resurrection are not the same person.

dolphinheart:


sir , I never asked you all this, please go to that post, see the question there and respond to it!,

solite3:
how many times will I answer your question? You always ignore post that exposes you.
But I thank God you are on a public forum, you and your company have been twisting and changing the word of God and you better repent before it's too late.
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU .

May God have merci on you too.

Because you are twisting the word of God.

What the Apostles did not do.

You are doing it in a public forum.

Repent from this doctrine that came from the pit of hell.

God is one!!

solite3

solite3:
It seems that Jehovah witnesses has abandoned this thread to open a new one.
Humm truth is bitter, it causes restlessness , one can ignore, fight or even try to cover it but it can never change neither can it be destroyed.

Truth has once again prevailed.

Nice work John, you stood your ground in spite of all their manipulation, lies and contradiction.

I bet you no false witness can stand this Spirit
Some years ago some witness came to preach to me, even one of their pastor but could not stand.
In fact he confessed that he was in error.
In witnessing to unbelievers especially to indoctrinated ones it is necessary to stand firmly without wavering.

johnw74:


Rev_1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

dolphinheart:


rev 1: 8 is referring to Jehovah, the almighty God, the one some translators changed his name to "Lord God", [size=14pt]it is not referring to jesus[/size] .

plappville:


Show me where trinity is in the Bible.

If you cannot. Then case close.

Trinity doctrine is from the bottomless pit.

johnw74:


Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


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Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


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Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 10:17 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and a almighty god


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Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.



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Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


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Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


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Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

johnw74:








Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Rev 22:16 [size=14pt]I Jesus[/size] have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.



Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and [size=14pt]the Lord God[/size] of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

Rev 22:16 [size=14pt]I Jesus[/size] have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

solite3:

The doctrine of trinity is clear in the bible only liars and manipulators deny it.


Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


The idolatrous act of watch tower representing God with picture as a three headed being is an abhormination.
Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Colossians 2:9 For in him [ christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Open your bible and read for yourself!

plappville:


Thats how the lizard is. Praise himself when no one praise him. Who confirm you have the truth God?

solite3:
how many times will I answer your question?

You always ignore post that exposes you.

But I thank God you are on a public forum, you and your company have been twisting and changing the word of God and you better repent before it's too late.
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU.

johnw74:








Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Rev 22:16 [size=14pt]I Jesus[/size] have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.



Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and [size=14pt]the Lord God[/size] of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

Rev 22:16 [size=14pt]I Jesus[/size] have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

dolphinheart:
Had to cut a lot of my words off cus I don't know which one the anti spam bot was against!, hope my explanation and who I'm referring to is understood. Had to split the post too.

I do believe Christ, and I do understand what he said, what jesus said does not contradict what other verses recorded about who resurrected jesus (which I've shown to you but you refuse to examine)
Joh 2:19Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
Joh 2:21But he was talking about the temple of his body.
If you view on these verses is that jesus himself resurrected himself, Such a view would conflict with galatians 1:1 , which ascribes the resurrection of Jesus to the Father, not to the Son.
King James Version
Ga 1:1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, color=blue]and God the Father, who raised him from the dead[/color]
(unless you want to claim the scriptures contradict itself or that jesus is same person as the father, then explain this verse)

At luke 8:48 , jesus used a similar mode of expression, Jesus is quoted as saying to a woman: “Your faith has made you well.” Did she heal herself? No; it was power from God through Christ that healed her because she had faith.
[b]Lu 8:48But he said to her: “Daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace.”
Lu 8:46But Jesus said: “Someone touched me, for I know that power went out of me.”
New World Translation
Ac 10:38about Jesus who was from Nazʹa·reth, how God anointed him with holy spirit and power, and he went through the land doing good and healing all those oppressed by the Devil, because God was with him.

so Likewise, by his perfect obedience as a human, Jesus provided the moral basis for the Father to raise him from the dead, thus acknowledging Jesus as God’s Son. Because of Jesus’ faithful course of life, it could properly be said that Jesus himself was responsible for his resurrection.
(There was an explanation of the verse by scholars here , had to remove it , might be the cause of the anti spam issue)
part 2 to be posted soon

dolphinheart:


cutting my points off will not help you, I've shown you the true words of rev 1:8, that fact you can only try to erase but never ever can you counter it!

johnw74:


Rev_1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

dolphinheart:


rev 1: 8 is referring to Jehovah, the almighty God, the one some translators changed his name to "Lord God", [size=14pt]it is not referring to jesus[/size] .

johnw74:


lie lie dolphinheart

you do love to keep repeating your lies even in the face of the Truth - Jesus own words


Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

Jesus said He will raise His body, and of course you don't believe Him, but choose to believe another verse, and change the meaning of what Jesus said because you think the verses are contradictory,
the verses are not contradictory, you don't understand them of course

Jesus said He will raise Himself is true, but not to you

Paul said the Father raised Jesus
Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead

of course it was God who raised Jesus Temple - body
Father and the Word is God
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Father and the Word - God, raised Jesus body as told in both John: "Jesus will raise", and Paul: "Father raised"
But you have no understanding and have been blinded, and think that some Bible verses are not true, and that Bible verses contradict one another, and so you change their meaning,
Jesus said He will raise His body, you say He didn't,
you will have your reward.

antichrists deny the things Jesus done like raise His own body.

Mat_10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

No one can say Jesus is God but by the Holy Ghost:
1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord (kurios), but by the Holy Ghost.

A liar and an antichrist is one who denies the Father and the Son, in another word one who denies "God"
God and the Word is God
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

you lie lie dolphinheart are an antichrist denying much of what is accredited to Jesus
denying the Father and the Son - God.