tonye-t:

@chukwudi44,

who says tithe is part of the jewish law, it was a standard/concept/priniciple/custom that existed b4 the advent of the law(jewish law) and was only included into the mosaic law showing how it ought to be administered if they must be blessed

EPOMA:

@ Chukz4real and gbubs
These are some of the proofs you wanted, even in America that you have TD Jake, Benny Hinn and others , Islam is still growing faster.

"Islam is widely considered Europe's fastest growing religion, with immigration and above average birth rates leading to a rapid increase in the Muslim population."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4385768.stm


"The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years. "

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/

Please check the amount of Mosque that have been built yet the Muslims are not on tele begging for money or tithe.
It shames me when I see church organisations going to Africa to built boreholes that are manually pumped and then show that on Tele for us to donate more money, If i had the money like those churches had, I would lay pipes for miles and get electric pumps.Could they build that in their country
Make we sit up as Christians abeg

dwonder:

Tithing and the Law

The commandment to tithe was part of the Law that God gave to the 12 tribes of ancient Israel more than 3,500 years ago. That Law decreed that a tenth of the produce of the land and fruit trees and a tenth of the increase of the herds be given to the tribe of Levi in support of their services at the tabernacle.—Leviticus 27:30, 32; Numbers 18:21, 24.
God assured the Israelites that the Law 'would not be too difficult for them.' (Deuteronomy 30:11) As long as they faithfully observed God's commandments, including tithing, they had his promise of abundant harvests. And as a protection, an additional yearly tithe, normally consumed when the nation met for its religious festivities, was regularly set aside. Thus 'the alien resident, the fatherless boy, and the widow' could be satisfied.—Deuteronomy 14:28, 29; 28:1, 2, 11-14.

The Law did not specify a penalty for failing to tithe, but each Israelite was under a strong moral obligation to support true worship in this way. In fact, God accused Israelites who neglected tithing in Malachi's day of 'robbing him in tithes and offerings.' (Malachi 3:8, New International Version) Could the same charge be leveled at Christians who do not tithe?
Well, consider. National laws are not normally valid outside a country's borders. For example, the law that obliges motorists in Britain to drive on the left does not apply to drivers in France. Similarly, the law requiring tithing was part of an exclusive covenant between God and the nation of Israel. (Exodus 19:3-8; Psalm 147:19, 20) Only the Israelites were bound by that law.
In addition, although it is true that God never changes, his requirements sometimes do. (Malachi 3:6) The Bible states categorically that the sacrificial death of Jesus, in 33 C.E., "blotted out," or "abolished," the Law and with it the "commandment to collect tithes."—Colossians 2:13, 14; Ephesians 2:13-15; Hebrews 7:5, 18.

Christian Giving

However, contributions to support true worship were still needed. Jesus had commissioned his disciples 'to be witnesses to the most distant part of the earth.' (Acts 1: As the number of believers grew, so did the need for Christian teachers and overseers to visit and strengthen the congregations. Widows, orphans, and other needy ones had to be cared for at times. How did the first-century Christians cover the costs involved?

About 55 C.E., an appeal went out to Gentile Christians in Europe and Asia Minor in behalf of the impoverished congregation in Judea. In his letters to the congregation in Corinth, the apostle Paul describes how this 'collection for the holy ones' was organized. (1 Corinthians 16:1) You may be surprised at what Paul's words reveal about Christian giving.
The apostle Paul did not cajole fellow believers to give. In fact, Macedonian Christians who were "under affliction" and in "deep poverty" had to 'keep begging him with much entreaty for the privilege of kindly giving and for a share in the ministry destined for the holy ones.'—2 Corinthians 8:1-4.

True, Paul encouraged the more affluent Corinthians to imitate their generous brothers in Macedonia. Even so, observes one reference work, he 'declined to issue directives, preferring rather to request, suggest, encourage, or appeal. Spontaneity and warmth would be absent from the Corinthians' giving if coercion were present.' Paul knew that "God loves a cheerful giver," not one who gives "grudgingly or under compulsion."—2 Corinthians 9:7.

Abundant faith and knowledge together with genuine love for fellow Christians would have impelled the Corinthians to give spontaneously.—2 Corinthians 8:7, 8.

'As He Has Resolved in His Own Heart'

Rather than specifying an amount or a percentage, Paul merely suggested that "on the first day of every week, each one . . . should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income." (Italics ours; 1 Corinthians 16:2, NIV) By planning and reserving an amount on a regular basis, the Corinthians would not feel pressured into giving begrudgingly or on emotional impulse when Paul arrived. For each Christian, the decision of how much to give was to be a private matter, one that 'he had resolved in his own heart.'—2 Corinthians 9:5, 7.

In order to reap generously, the Corinthians had to sow generously. No suggestion of giving until it hurts was ever made. 'I do not mean for it to be hard on you,' Paul assured them. Contributions were 'especially acceptable according to what a person had, not according to what a person did not have.' (2 Corinthians 8:12, 13; 9:6) In a later letter, the apostle warned: "If anyone does not provide for those . . . who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith." (1 Timothy 5: Paul did not encourage giving that violated this principle.

It is significant that Paul supervised a 'collection for the holy ones' who were in need. We do not read in the Scriptures about Paul or the other apostles organizing collections or receiving tithes to finance their own ministries. (Acts 3:6) Always grateful to receive the gifts that the congregations sent him, Paul conscientiously avoided imposing "an expensive burden" on his brothers.—1 Thessalonians 2:9; Philippians 4:15-18.

Voluntary Giving Today

Clearly, during the first century, followers of Christ practiced voluntary giving, not tithing. However, you may wonder if this is still an effective way to finance the preaching of the good news and to care for Christians who are in need.

tensor777:

@dwonder

I don't know what you are really on about here but abolition of the sabbath rules and the requirement to make blood sacrifices in no way invalidates the other commandments and rules stated in the old testament.

tensor777:

Actually it is the law of God that every bible believing Christian should pay tithes which is 1/10 of income.
Check Malachi 3: 8-10. It is non-negotiable.
In addition a Christian is expected to make voluntary payments called offerings to his or her Church.

tonye-t:

Oh my God, so Chukwudi your knowledge of God(titheing to be more precised) is simply based on what KunleOshod and co. says about it,Oh! what a pity.

Now i know why you dont even have proof to any biblical issues, but rather tend to mudsling each time a truth is told to you, and you idea of exhuming saints of the catholic church even makes your posts all the more pathetic


Sorry o! its a pity

tensor777:

Actually with the sacrificial death of Jesus on the cross and the consequent abolition of the Levitical priesthood there is no need for any Christian to make animal sacrifices.

tensor777:

Actually with the death of Jesus on the cross and the consequent abolition of the Levitical priesthood there is no need for any Christian to make animal sacrifices.

Theblessed:

But that was not the question, is it? He needs advise/answers to his tithing situation and not the above.

dwonder:

We are always passionate about issues especially the ones where we  have our own views mapped out, Wish we can be half passionate about keeping the most important of all laws in the bible.


This is the law we all fail to keep, Jesus emphasized this while on earth, I don't have anything against the man that wants to pay his tithe neither do I look at the man that doesn't as a sinner however do either of this people trully trully love GOD!!!!
Pay 90% of your earnings as tithe without obeying this law then you are worst than the man that doesn't pay.

'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'[b] 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Jesus throughout his life never placed any emphasis on any part of the mosaic law except the ones that talk about LOVE and treating one's neighbour in fairness.  Rather than be excessively concerned about paying your tithe or not there is plenty of reason for all of us to increase our LOVE for our fellow humans.

tensor777:

Actually that post was in answer to one of Chukwudi's questions.

Ok, pardon me o o!!!!! I did not know what transpired earlier, just following what's on screen in front of me.

tensor777:

To be honest it does not matter what you or anybody thinks or feels about the law of tithes. The fact is that according to the word of God it is mandatory.

Kennyyo:

God has never forced anybody into obeying him. He gives His laws and gives you your choices. However, He also promised reward for obedience and punishment for disobedience. Whether you pay or not is left to you.

Even though there are not new testament teachings about Tithing, Christ’s words in Luke 11:42 which states that: “But woe unto you Pharisees! For ye tithe mint and rue all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done and not to leave the other undone” is clear enough- You are to pay your tithe.



I also don’t think we should worry ourselves about how the tithe is spent. Your responsibility stops at the giving; God has not appointed us to oversee the spending. But judgment awaits pastors who use tithes to sponsor their profligate lifestyles.

As to whether you can split payment, I believe you can but you don’t necessarily have to- You are paying to God and not to any man.

And to claim Old Testament scriptures about tithe did not involve money is to be parochial in the bid to justify ourselves. The society then was basically an agrarian society and tithe was to be from their productivity. So how do we measure productivity in our age? I think we should stop claiming Old Testament blessings since they don’t involve money- at least God never promised to give you MONEY!! He is either blessing the fruits of your field or your flock

Kennyyo:

@Chuwudi44:

Please note that Jesus did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfil it.

Payment of Tithe has been before the law was given (Gen: 14.20). Abraham did it while there was no law and we can also follow his example to pay now that there is no law.

We should let the scripture interpret itself. To pick one isolated verse to suit our mindset is to be parochial.

I still want to say that tithe is about our productivity which was basically crop produce and animals then. What God asked for in the first year was the first fruit and its only to be paid once and whenever there is an increase and not yearly as some ministers preach (Thats another critical issue). Tithes is to be paid afterwards.

Paying of tithes monthly makes it easier for us to be faithful since most of us do not keep records of our finincials. I am sure you dont get paid once in a year, so the best way to be accountable is to pay monthly, at least we all clamour for "pay as you go" services.

tensor777:

Clearly you have to take the word of God as it is. You are of course not obliged to pay tithes if you are not a Christian.

OLAADEGBU:


This is a fact. Unbelievers are not obliged to give tithes to God because it will not be acceptable, what God demands from a wicked man is to repent and only after this should he begin to obey God's command.

"The sacrifice of the wicked is abomination: how much more, when he brings it with a wicked mind?" -- Prov. 21:27



Please could anyone show me anywhere in the bible where christians paid tithes

Also please provide answers to my questions as pertaining to frequency and monetary tithing