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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by laviecontinue: 9:52am On Jun 05, 2016
MOST comments on nairaland ll make you do mouth for naija youths. E pain me. undecided

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by southpole: 9:54am On Jun 05, 2016
emvico:
so lagos no get land again? or may be dem wan use idea to spy kebbi cheesy
so Dangote no get land for kano that he is building a petrochemical plant in Lagos?

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by tbaba1234: 9:54am On Jun 05, 2016
989900:


It is already happening.

Lagos has farmlands across the SW (a big chunk in Osun).

Kebbi alone, I heard is already achieving 1/6th of our rice requirements . . . imagine in 2-3 years from now . . .

BTW, Rice is arguably our largest food import . . . eating up massive Forex. If Lagos can help us get Rice and PMS, AGO, DPK, off our imports bill, turning that travesty into opportunity a la exports (earning Forex) -- that'd be a coup -- part of what the Dr. ordered for diversification and a stronger Naira!


Imagine what can happen to the economy of Lagos in the next few years

Major things that take up foreign exchange... Petrol and Rice.... Lagos will control both...

All the foreign exchange used to buy petroleum produce and rice will be now be directed to the economy of Lagos.

This is not forgetting the fact that they are producing oil now and developing 2 more ports.

Lagos is just about to take off...

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by akigbemaru: 9:56am On Jun 05, 2016
Ambode

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 9:58am On Jun 05, 2016
YourNemesis:


Because he could site that fertilizer plant in Sokoto, Kebbi or somewhere in the North where majority of farmers are and import the raw materials from Niger and Chad.
There is already a pool of knowledgeable rice farmers in a state like Kebbi, and Lagos is simply tapping into that. Not unlike The Americans owning Banana plantations in Costa Rica.

Now, you're contradicting yourself. The same reason why he sited fertilizer plants in the North where majority of the farmers are, is the same reason why he sited a refinery in Lagos due to its proximity to the oil region since most of naij's oil is offshore and most of the rigs are closer to Lagos than a lot of places in the Niger Delta (you can use google map). A lot of those offshore oil rigs actually fall in Lagos' territorial waters, based on international law. Also, Lagos has a few drops of oil. And as a businessman, ya priority is always about maximising profits, while reducing overhead cost.

So, what's the correlation between Dangote and a state government?

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 10:00am On Jun 05, 2016
And to think that this obese clown is representing my part of Lagos makes me cringe.

Get this fat guy outta here.
Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by southpole: 10:01am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:
I honestly don't know where they pluck these terrible and myopic leaders from.

What's Lagos' business with non-lucrative rice plant gazillion of mile away, when it can focus of its industries and continue to look for ways to maximise revenue from there? Must these people always tag along in stupidity?

Even if you're interested in agriculture, why not stay in the SW? This is the type of mentality that messed up Lagos.

Anyway, this is what happens when a glutton and an obese guy becomes a governor cos all he'll care about is food. undecided

My friend remove your anus in your head so that you think well. Is Dangote foolish for building a mega petrochemical plant in Lagos instead of kano his home state with huge land? how much is that so called rice plant compare to petrochemical plant and other Dangote investment in Lagos?

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by BAILMONEY: 10:01am On Jun 05, 2016
rhemmiedream:

Lol..because the plant is not situated in Ebonyi ?
DO YOU WANT TO REMAIN A SLAVE FOREVER YOU SHOULD MAN UP AND AGITATE FOR REPUBLIC OF FALLING ANGEL JUST LIKE IPOB ARE CURRENTLY DOING

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by 989900: 10:01am On Jun 05, 2016
tbaba1234:


Imagine what can happen to the economy of Lagos in the next few years

Major things that take up foreign exchange... Petrol and Rice.... Lagos will control both...

All the foreign exchange used to buy petroleum produce and rice will be now be directed to the economy of Lagos.

This is not forgetting the fact that they are producing oil now and developing 2 more ports.

Lagos is just about to take off...


Lagos will probably be doing half of Nigeria's GDP soon. The rail network, 4th mainland, Health park, Eko Atlantic . . ..

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Nobody: 10:01am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:
I honestly don't know where they pluck these terrible and myopic leaders from.

What's Lagos' business with non-lucrative rice plant gazillion of mile away, when it can focus of its industries and continue to look for ways to maximise revenue from there? Must these people always tag along in stupidity?

Even if you're interested in agriculture, why not stay in the SW? This is the type of mentality that messed up Lagos.

Anyway, this is what happens when a glutton and an obese guy becomes a governor cos all he'll care about is food. undecided

The SW farmers mainly produce cash crops like cocoa and rubber. There are no huge plantations of food crops like they have in d north. Food crops are mainly produced by poor local substinence farmers. I guess DTS why he went to kebbi state.

The stranger point i agree wt though is DT I don't think govts should be involved in business. But in Nigeria its d norm. Even this kebbi state plantation shouldn't be owned by kebbi state. Just like crude oil wells shouldn't be owned at all by the government but they're all in JV's wt d govt. Our govts are either trying to fill d vacuum businessmen are not filling or they're just greedy.

Nigeria is a semi socialist economy. True story.

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by tbaba1234: 10:04am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


Bitumen is largely untapped in Nigeria. Solid minerals are largely untapped in Nigeria. Etc. So, I guess Lagos also need to invest in states with these untapped resources as well, no? That's the logic there.

The state has no business building rice plants in Kebbi - there are other things they can do to foster inter-state collaborations. They can start with exchanging ideas about governance; inter-state transportation; lobbying to open branches of investments domiciled in one state, in the other etc. Let private businessmen handle that and focus on ya own potentials as a state.

Also, based on the way Nigeria is structured - no state can influence any other state on national issues. Everything happens based on bloc, and ethnic/party/religious lines.

Lagos should worry about Lagos and let Kebbi worry about Kebbi.

There is a ready market for rice in Nigeria. States are limited in their ability to explore solid minerals. The legal and regulatory frameworks are still lacking.

Rice on the other hand consumes a lot of foreign exchange.... Some of that money will now be directed to the Lagos economy. Already Dangote refinery is situated in Lagos, Another foreign exchange guzzler located in Lagos...

I believe, this is an excellent strategic move that will transform the economy of the state.

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by mmsen: 10:05am On Jun 05, 2016
YourNemesis:


Because he could site that fertilizer plant in Sokoto, Kebbi or somewhere in the North where majority of farmers are and import the raw materials from Niger and Chad.
There is already a pool of knowledgeable rice farmers in a state like Kebbi, and Lagos is simply tapping into that. Not unlike The Americans owning Banana plantations in Costa Rica.

American private enterprise, not the US government.

There is a difference. Nigerians should by now be aware of how disastrous it is for government to run businesses - NITEL, NNPC, NEPA.
Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by YourNemesis: 10:06am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


Now, you're contradicting yourself. The same reason why he sited fertilizer plants in the North where majority of the farmers are, is the same reason why he sited a refinery in Lagos due to its proximity to the oil region since most of naij's oil is offshore and most of the rigs are closer to Lagos than a lot of places in the Niger Delta (you can use google map). A lot of those offshore oil rigs actually fall in Lagos' territorial waters, based on international law. Also, Lagos has a few drops of oil. And as a businessman, ya priority is always about maximising profits, while reducing overhead cost.

So, what's the correlation between Dangote and a state government?

Hw am I contradicting myself? did I say he sited the fertilizer plant in the North? read my statements well, I said it is sited in Lagos, even though the bulk of the consumer base is located Up North. I already explained how they are connected, but maybe you chose not to see it, or what?
I mentioned the skilled labor already available there, favorable ecosystem for Fadama and upland rice farming amongst other things. But since you want to sound smart, I just want to remind you that being insular is of benefit to no one. Lagos can;t be an island sustaining itsef.

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 10:07am On Jun 05, 2016
southpole:

My friend remove your anus in your head so that you think well. Is Dangote foolish for building a mega petrochemical plant in Lagos instead of kano his home state with huge land? how much is that so called rice plant compare to petrochemical plant and other Dangote investment in Lagos?

You're a stark illiterate!

Even Dangote knows that it would be a foolish idea to open a refinery in Kano when the oil is thousands of miles away and to maximise profit as a smart businessman, while reducing overhead cost - he's better off siting it closer to the oil. Smart businessman with Ijebu economics.

Your type should just focus on working somewhere - don't ever get involved in business cos you'll go broke faster than Usain Bolt.

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Nobody: 10:11am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:
And to think that this obese clown is representing my part of Lagos makes me cringe.

Get this fat guy outta here.

So ur from epe. But what did fat pple ever do to u? Lol!

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by YourNemesis: 10:11am On Jun 05, 2016
mmsen:


American private enterprise, not the US government.

There is a difference. Nigerians should by now be aware of how disastrous it is for government to run businesses - NITEL, NNPC, NEPA.

Governments can OWN businesses if done right, and why are you only siting failed examples of government run businesses from Nigeria? Lagos state has proven to be a shining star tat can do things right, and it is a very atypical Nigerian state. I think you will even agree with me tat the LASG has proven to be more administratively effective in certain respects than even the Federal government.
There are several successful government run(owned) as well as sponsored franchises and ventures around the globe ESKOM in South Africa is government owned, Petrobras in Brazil, Several other examples in US, Canada, Australia and so forth.

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 10:12am On Jun 05, 2016
janellemonae:

The SW farmers mainly produce cash crops like cocoa and rubber. There are no huge plantations of food crops like they have in d north. Food crops are mainly produced by poor local substinence farmers. I guess DTS why he went to kebbi state.

The stranger point i agree wt though is DT I don't think govts should be involved in business. But in Nigeria its d norm. Even this kebbi state plantation shouldn't be owned by kebbi state. Just like crude oil wells shouldn't be owned at all by the government but they're all in JV's wt d govt. Our govts are either trying to fill d vacuum businessmen are not filling or they're just greedy.

Nigeria is a semi socialist economy. True story.

@ bold - that's what I'm saying. Yes, you can always make excuse for Kebbi since the state hasn't got that much resources to tap into and it can always boost its economy/IGR with agriculture.

However, Lagos has too much potentials to be getting involved in everything. It needs to focus on a few things and maximise its potentials. The state should be more focused on emulating cities like London, New York, Paris, Hong Kong et al, rather than dragging its feet everywhere with different layers of nonsense.
Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by tbaba1234: 10:15am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


@ bold - that's what I'm saying. Yes, you can always make excuse for Kebbi since the state hasn't got that much resources to tap into and it can always boost its economy/IGR with agriculture.

However, Lagos has too much potentials to be getting involved in everything. It needs to focus on a few things and maximise its potentials. The state should be more focused on emulating cities like London, New York, Paris, Hong Kong et al, rather than dragging its feet everywhere with different layers of nonsense.
mmsen:

American private enterprise, not the US government.
There is a difference. Nigerians should by now be aware of how disastrous it is for government to run businesses - NITEL, NNPC, NEPA.

There are also Mexican Investors... Lagos will just have a controlling share but it will be run by private hands..

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 10:18am On Jun 05, 2016
tbaba1234:

There is a ready market for rice in Nigeria. States are limited in their ability to explore solid minerals. The legal and regulatory frameworks are still lacking.

Rice on the other hand consumes a lot of foreign exchange.... Some of that money will now be directed to the Lagos economy. Already Dangote refinery is situated in Lagos, Another foreign exchange guzzler located in Lagos...

I believe, this is an excellent strategic move that will transform the economy of the state.

It still doesn't make sense. Lagos has more than enough potentials and whatever FOREX earning rice will ever generate can't match a small fraction of these potentials. If Lagos can tap fully into its potentials - forex earnings from oil won't be able match the potentials Lagos has.

These folks need to focus on these potentials and stop getting the state entangled in nonsense. We don't need rice plants - we need a strong Lagos Stock Exchange.
Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Nobody: 10:19am On Jun 05, 2016
rusher14:
Lagos is repping and reaping.

While my own people are riggng and ripping.

One then wonders where food go show for small pickin

Time would come and they'll play the victim.

You want to blame someone you wanna blame the system?

To greener pastures the youth would be seeking.

Yeah I see you guys in this thread peeping.

Come on in sit your ass down better start thinking.

Woe is coming yes it's silently creeping.

Change that story don't be set trippin

Be the difference be the rhyme with a rhythm.





Please teach me to write sweet poems.

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by EbukaLive(m): 10:22am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


It still doesn't make sense. Lagos has more than enough potentials and whatever FOREX earning rice will ever generate can't match a small fraction of these potentials. If Lagos can tap fully into its potentials - forex earnings from oil won't be able match the potentials Lagos has.

These folks need to focus on these potentials and stop getting the state entangled in nonsense. We don't need rice plants - we need a strong Lagos Stock Exchange.
Been following this discourse and at this point I have to ask you, what are these potentials?

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by YourNemesis: 10:26am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


It still doesn't make sense. Lagos has more than enough potentials and whatever FOREX earning rice will ever generate can't match a small fraction of these potentials. If Lagos can tap fully into its potentials - forex earnings from oil won't be able match the potentials Lagos has.

These folks need to focus on these potentials and stop getting the state entangled in nonsense. We don't need rice plants - we need a strong Lagos Stock Exchange.

LOL... Gbese ree o!.
Why are you acting as if this rice venture in kebbi is the only thing Lagos is doing to better itself?
Do you even know how much rice Nigerians consume per year? we are one of the top Rice eating nations in the world if not even in the top 5, and more than 90% of all those Owambe rice is imported. This is a business that has huge turnover. So stop talking as if it is some inconsequential venture that has no meaning. Na FOREX and Stock exchange man on street go chop? With local production, price of rice will go down, poor man can divert his disposable income towards other things, and local economies can grow and flourish, employment can be provided locally, a distribution chain will develop, Lagos/SW businessmen can even take advantage and key into the program. All of this can happen instead of the Thais and vietnamese using your money/foreign exchange to build skyscrapers and subways in Bangkok.

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 10:26am On Jun 05, 2016
YourNemesis:


Hw am I contradicting myself? did I say he sited the fertilizer plant in the North? read my statements well, I said it is sited in Lagos, even though the bulk of the consumer base is located Up North. I already explained how they are connected, but maybe you chose not to see it, or what?
I mentioned the skilled labor already available there, favorable ecosystem for Fadama and upland rice farming amongst other things. But since you want to sound smart, I just want to remind you that being insular is of benefit to no one. Lagos can;t be an island sustaining itsef.


Your post in ya words:

Because he could site that fertilizer plant in Sokoto, Kebbi or somewhere in the North where majority of farmers are and import the raw materials from Niger and Chad.

^^^I'm not a mind reader and whatever you're trying to say in this post is vague and I'm naturally more inclined to believe that you're alluding to him siting fertilizer plant in the North, based on the structure of ya sentence.

Anyway, now that you've corrected yourself, I'll address ya point again. I know about refinery - but when did Dangote site fertilizer plant in Lagos? Can you post any link to affirm this?

Also, it depends the type of fertilizer plant you're alluding to. If it's the organic one, then that's a terrible business decision. However, if it's a chemical fertilizer plant, then it's understandable.

Regardless, what's the correlation between a private businessman and a state? grin
Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 10:28am On Jun 05, 2016
janellemonae:


So ur from epe. But what did fat pple ever do to u? Lol!

Royalty and the crowned young king Tut of Epe.

Lol. Fat people think with their stomach and appetite for food and it isn't shocking this guy left everything in Lagos for food in Kebbi. grin
Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by tbaba1234: 10:31am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


It still doesn't make sense. Lagos has more than enough potentials and whatever FOREX earning rice will ever generate can't match a small fraction of these potentials. If Lagos can tap fully into its potentials - forex earnings from oil won't be able match the potentials Lagos has.

These folks need to focus on these potentials and stop getting the state entangled in nonsense. We don't need rice plants - we need a strong Lagos Stock Exchange.

What foreign exchange potential??

Do you know that Nigeria is number 11 in rice consumption globally? That is massive revenue for Lagos at one go... Why stay local when you can tap into nationwide revenue?

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by southpole: 10:32am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


You're a stark illiterate!

Even Dangote knows that it would be a foolish idea to open a refinery in Kano when the oil is thousands of miles away and to maximise profit as a smart businessman, while reducing overhead cost - he's better off siting it closer to the oil. Smart businessman with Ijebu economics.

Your type should just focus on working somewhere - don't ever get involved in business cos you'll go broke faster than Usain Bolt.

you have proved your stupidity and confirmed that you really think through the anus tell me why should Lagos state govt open a rice plant in Lagos when the know that the commercial source of rice padding is thousands of miles located in d north ?

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 10:32am On Jun 05, 2016
EbukaLive:

Been following this discourse and at this point I have to ask you, what are these potentials?

- Financial sector (this sector alone can make Lagos richer than Nigeria).

- Industries.

- Ports.

- Tourism (Lagos has one of the most amazing landscapes on the planet and Eko Atlantic can also become a mini-Dubai).

- Taxes

^^^Just focus on these - with the financial sector as a nucleus and the identity.

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by gboye1999: 10:33am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


It still doesn't make sense. Lagos has more than enough potentials and whatever FOREX earning rice will ever generate can't match a small fraction of these potentials. If Lagos can tap fully into its potentials - forex earnings from oil won't be able match the potentials Lagos has.

These folks need to focus on these potentials and stop getting the state entangled in nonsense. We don't need rice plants - we need a strong Lagos Stock Exchange.

There's really nothing to argue about here....A State can do business simply by owning a fraction...don't need to be involved in day to day operations. Doing this i.e rice farming/agriculture doesn't stop it from doing the others: property development, infrastructure as a business, financial services, or any other they can develop partnership in.

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by YourNemesis: 10:34am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


Your post in ya words:

^^^I'm not a mind reader and whatever you're trying to say in this post is vague and I'm naturally more inclined to believe that you're alluding to him siting fertilizer plant in the North, based on the structure of ya sentence.

Anyway, now that you've corrected yourself, I'll address ya point again. I know about refinery - but when did Dangote site fertilizer plant in Lagos? Can you post any link to affirm this?
Also, it depends the type of fertilizer plant you're alluding to. If it's the organic one, then that's a terrible business decision. However, if it's a chemical fertilizer plant, then it's understandable.

Regardless, what's the correlation between a private businessman and a state? grin

I didn't make any mistakes, why would I be correcting myself?
You were asking what is the correlation between a Northern businessman owning a plant in Lagos and I told you that he could have sited the fertilizer plant in for example Kano. Or is that not right?
Anyways, the way I see this things, Lagos state government is only pioneering it. In the end, it will enter into the hands of businessmen. Just sit down and watch if the program goes off.

You could have googled the ferterlizer project yourself to confirm, but since you asked :
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-11/dangote-plants-seen-selling-6-billion-yearly-to-nigeria-by-2018

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 10:35am On Jun 05, 2016
southpole:


you have proved your stupidity and confirmed that you really think through the anus tell me why should Lagos state govt open a rice plant in Lagos when the know that the commercial source of rice padding is thousands of miles located in d north ?

Lol.

Stark illiterate with mucus for brain matter. No wonder ya handle is "Southpole" cos ya head is stuck under ya crusty feet, you accursed m0ron (mods take note before you ban me cos he threw first shot loool).

Don't procreate and don't ever get involved in any business venture because you'll be broke faster than Usain Bolt. Just stick to jobs and saving for pension. grin
Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by tbaba1234: 10:37am On Jun 05, 2016
Shym3xx:


- Financial sector (this sector alone can make Lagos richer than Nigeria).

- Industries.

- Ports.

- Tourism (Lagos has one of the most amazing landscapes on the planet and Eko Atlantic can also become a mini-Dubai).

- Taxes

^^^Just focus on these - with the financial sector as a nucleus and the identity.

Lagos already has some of these things covered.

There are developing two ports.

You already mentioned Eko Atlantic

Lagos is constantly broadening its tax collection..

They are already doing all these...

This on the other hand has massive potential for the state on a different level..

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Re: Lagos Government To Set Up Rice Plant In Kebbi by Shym3xx: 10:38am On Jun 05, 2016
YourNemesis:


I didn't make any mistakes, why would I be correcting myself?
You were asking what is the correlation between a Northern businessman owning a plant in Lagos and I told you that he could have sited the fertilizer plant in for example Kano. Or is that not right?
Anyways, the way I see this things, Lagos state government is only pioneering it. In the end, it will enter into the hands of businessmen. Just sit down and watch if the program goes off.

But that still doesn't negate the fact that you're correlating the business decision of a private investor with the business decision of a state. If you can't see that there's absolutely no correlation whatsoever between the two, then I can't help.

Lagos is pioneering primeval thought process and this is 2016. The fat guy just took Lagos 500 years backward with this nonsense.

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