Hairyrapunzel:


It is not thinking this way it is knowing what happens

Hairyrapunzel:


But you saw 2006 and 2001. have they been changed too? I actually took those from different years and they all say thesame thing

It's like you people like changing your beliefs th

There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." Watchtower 1993 Oct 1 p.19

These are from recent publications

"An even greater mistake would be to allow the faults of others to stumble us and cause us to leave Jehovah's organisation. Were that to happen, we would lose not only the privilege of doing God's will but also the hope of life in God's new world." Watchtower 2016 Jun study ed pp.25-26

"Really, our survival involves being devoted to Jehovah God and learning about the kind of conduct and deeds that please him. (Zephaniah 2:3) Rather than following the majority today and ignoring the clear signals that we are living in such important times, we need to “keep close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah.” Jehovah’s Witnesses can show you from the Bible how you can be a survivor of this upcoming day." Watchtower 2015 May 1 p.8

"If we stop actively supporting Jehovah's work, then we start following Satan. There is no middle ground." Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.18

"But Jehovah's servants already belong to the only organization that will survive the end of this wicked system of things." Watchtower 2007 Dec 15 p.14

Explain these recent publications then still looks like they have always preached thesame message

sholytomx:

Check the latest information on our website about if Jehovah's witness teach they only will be save, I have copied and here below:
Do Jehovah’s
Witnesses Feel That
They Are the Only
People Who Will Be
Saved?
No. Many millions who lived in centuries past and who
weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses will have an opportunity
for salvation.

The Bible explains that in God’s promised
new world, “there is going to be a resurrection of both
the righteous and the unrighteous.” ( Acts 24:15 )

Additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve
God, and they too will gain salvation.

In any case, it’s
not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That
assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands.—John 5:22,
27

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sholytomx:

Are all this things the same thing? na wa for you oooo...
This last watchtower 2007 says the only organization, among the organization of this world(what are the rest of the organization that we have on earth?).
The watchtower 2011 say if we stop doing Jehovah's work and NOTE that it says and if we start following Satan, not everyone that leaves the organization(for some reason known only to them) followed Satan and its not this ones that the watchtower is talking about. Now if you read thru the rest of the publications you quoted you will understand that is referring basically to those that are obedient to Godly principles NOT JUST JWS....YOU ARE MISQUOTING THE ISSUES TIMES AND AGAIN.

sholytomx:

Are all this things the same thing? na wa for you oooo...
This last watchtower 2007 says the only organization, among the organization of this world(what are the rest of the organization that we have on earth?).
The watchtower 2011 say if we stop doing Jehovah's work and NOTE that it says and if we start following Satan, not everyone that leaves the organization(for some reason known only to them) followed Satan and its not this ones that the watchtower is talking about. Now if you read thru the rest of the publications you quoted you will understand that is referring basically to those that are obedient to Godly principles NOT JUST JWS....YOU ARE MISQUOTING THE ISSUES TIMES AND AGAIN.

Hairyrapunzel:


Hmmmm your normal style of asking your questions and answering them in a deceitful way why saying thesame thing

From this first answer you ain't still giving the answer
You are saying those who died before the centuries jw was formed i.e. Before the 19th century will be resurrected and have an opportunity to be saved i.e. If they see they can cope with jw rules they will be saved if not they will die with other non jws




Read the whole chapter of acts 24 you misquote the Bible. Still God or Paul did not say you will survive Armageddon only if you are a jw or belong to any organization



You are saying many people living now may decide to join watchtower organization and gain salvation. It is still thesame thing we are saying according to you people the end is near and your Jehovah will destroy non jws the only way you will survive this is by becoming a jw and joining watchtower and also obeying its rules and regulations.



From your publications below it Says judgement has been placed already

"Of this historical preview of Armageddon, the Bible says: "For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." (Matthew 24:37-39) So the circumstances relating to the end of our world order at Armageddon will be similar to those associated with the ancient Deluge. They will be: (1) The planet Earth and its animal life will survive; (2) the significance of our times is missed by most people through preoccupation with the normal processes of life; (3) the majority of mankind take no note of the divine warning of Armageddon; (4) hence the majority of mankind will be destroyed at Armageddon; and (5) only a small minority of mankind will find favour with God and survive the "war of the great day of God the Almighty."" From Kurukshetra to Armageddon - and Your Survival pp.17-19


"Why should not blood run deep and far with over two billion [the world population in 1955] dead?.... With the members of this generation that will not pass away before Armageddon breaks out numbering now two billion five hundred million and with only the remnant and a larger group of "other sheep" inside the Greater Noah's "ark" surviving, the death toll of the "war of the great day of God the Almighty" will be appallingly all-surpassing, too many for the Armageddon survivors to bury. Come on, birds and beasts! Have your fill then from the human corpses in retribution for the wanton slaughter of animal and birdlife of which the human race has been guilty!" You May Survive Armageddon Into God's New World 1955 pp.340-342

"As for humans upon earth, on the side of Jehovah will be all those fully dedicated to him and who are faithfully following Jesus Christ; compared with earth's billions these are indeed few.... On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent, even as we read: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." That includes all the governments of the world together with their supporters, the commercial, religious and social institutions.... Armageddon will be the worst thing ever to hit this earth in the history of man." Watchtower 1958 Oct 15 pp.614-615

"Yes, today, with Armageddon staring us in the face, we must keep in mind the sobering thought that millions, even billions, of lives may shortly come to a swift and decisive end, putting their onetime owners beyond the reach of any expression of love on our part." Watchtower 1965 Apr 1 p. 212

Hairyrapunzel:


Hmmmm your normal style of asking your questions and answering them in a deceitful way why saying thesame thing

From this first answer you ain't still giving the answer
You are saying those who died before the centuries jw was formed i.e. Before the 19th century will be resurrected and have an opportunity to be saved i.e. If they see they can cope with jw rules they will be saved if not they will die with other non jws




Read the whole chapter of acts 24 you misquote the Bible. Still God or Paul did not say you will survive Armageddon only if you are a jw or belong to any organization



You are saying many people living now may decide to join watchtower organization and gain salvation. It is still thesame thing we are saying according to you people the end is near and your Jehovah will destroy non jws the only way you will survive this is by becoming a jw and joining watchtower and also obeying its rules and regulations.



From your publications below it Says judgement has been placed already

"Of this historical preview of Armageddon, the Bible says: "For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." (Matthew 24:37-39) So the circumstances relating to the end of our world order at Armageddon will be similar to those associated with the ancient Deluge. They will be: (1) The planet Earth and its animal life will survive; (2) the significance of our times is missed by most people through preoccupation with the normal processes of life; (3) the majority of mankind take no note of the divine warning of Armageddon; (4) hence the majority of mankind will be destroyed at Armageddon; and (5) only a small minority of mankind will find favour with God and survive the "war of the great day of God the Almighty."" From Kurukshetra to Armageddon - and Your Survival pp.17-19


"Why should not blood run deep and far with over two billion [the world population in 1955] dead?.... With the members of this generation that will not pass away before Armageddon breaks out numbering now two billion five hundred million and with only the remnant and a larger group of "other sheep" inside the Greater Noah's "ark" surviving, the death toll of the "war of the great day of God the Almighty" will be appallingly all-surpassing, too many for the Armageddon survivors to bury. Come on, birds and beasts! Have your fill then from the human corpses in retribution for the wanton slaughter of animal and birdlife of which the human race has been guilty!" You May Survive Armageddon Into God's New World 1955 pp.340-342

"As for humans upon earth, on the side of Jehovah will be all those fully dedicated to him and who are faithfully following Jesus Christ; compared with earth's billions these are indeed few.... On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent, even as we read: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." That includes all the governments of the world together with their supporters, the commercial, religious and social institutions.... Armageddon will be the worst thing ever to hit this earth in the history of man." Watchtower 1958 Oct 15 pp.614-615

"Yes, today, with Armageddon staring us in the face, we must keep in mind the sobering thought that millions, even billions, of lives may shortly come to a swift and decisive end, putting their onetime owners beyond the reach of any expression of love on our part." Watchtower 1965 Apr 1 p. 212

sholytomx:

The Jw Organization has tried their very best to take their time in studying Gods word diligently in the past up until now and with humility adjusted their view on few of the bible teaching till date....and You my brother what have you done? what research have you done? Present your own understanding on how everything will be base on the bible and let us deliberate on it to see if its accurate accordingly.

Hairyrapunzel:


If Catholics adjusted their views on their own bible teaching you will openly criticize them in your magazine calling them false religion and say they are false prophets.
Don't you think is hypocritical of you to judge them when you know you still do thesame thing?

So people who died before they adjusted their bible teaching died in error right?
Russel taze, Rutherford, Nathan knorr died in error right?

Till tomorrow you still teach that joining watchtower organization is the only route to salvation you hide this belief from people cos you know people won't find this belief funny cos it isn't biblical

You know why I started quoting you because you said jws knock on doors because destruction of earth is close

Hairyrapunzel:


If Catholics adjusted their views on their own bible teaching you will openly criticize them in your magazine calling them false religion and say they are false prophets.
Don't you think is hypocritical of you to judge them when you know you still do thesame thing?

So people who died before they adjusted their bible teaching died in error right?
Russel taze, Rutherford, Nathan knorr died in error right?

Till tomorrow you still teach that joining watchtower organization is the only route to salvation you hide this belief from people cos you know people won't find this belief funny cos it isn't biblical

You know why I started quoting you because you said jws knock on doors because destruction of earth is close

sholytomx:

The Jw Organization has tried their very best to take their time in studying Gods word diligently in the past up until now and with humility adjusted their view on few of the bible teaching till date....and You my brother what have you done? what research have you done? Present your own understanding on how everything will be base on the bible and let us deliberate on it to see if its accurate accordingly.

sholytomx:
This is watchtower Feb 1,3012 pg 7.The war of Armageddon results in the saving of millions
of lives. In fact, it is a prelude to a period of peace on
earth.— .
The book of Revelation talks about an unnumbered
“great crowd” who will survive this conflict. (
) Under God’s guidance, these will help to
restore the earth to the Paradise conditions that
Jehovah originally purposed.

sholytomx:
This is watchtower Feb 1,3012 pg 7.The war of Armageddon results in the saving of millions
of lives. In fact, it is a prelude to a period of peace on
earth.— .
The book of Revelation talks about an unnumbered
“great crowd” who will survive this conflict. (
) Under God’s guidance, these will help to
restore the earth to the Paradise conditions that
Jehovah originally purposed.

Hairyrapunzel:


Millions of lives are saved but billions of lives are lost because your Jehovah killed them

Stop sugar coating your beliefs. The great crowd is even in heaven so I wonder where you get your belief that your Jehovah will kill billions because they are not jws and don't follow watchtower organization rules so that millions of jws will inherit the earth when he did not say such in the Bible. such a loving Jehovah

Hairyrapunzel:


Your Jehovah will kill billions to save millions smh8.5 million alive and 8.5 billion dead. So at every corner you will be encountering dead bodies in your new system?
Does that seem like a loving religion with a loving God?

sholytomx:

How many Catholic teaching is adjusted? and when was it?......I'm still waiting for you to present ur own understanding on this matter and let us talk about it.
How many Catholic teaching is adjusted? and when was it?......I'm still waiting for you to present ur own understanding on this matter and let us talk about it.

sholytomx:

So tell me again what will happen, Human Government will make the world a better place abi?

Hairyrapunzel:


We are not talking about whether the human government will make the world a better place
You said your God will kill people just because they didn't join watchtower organization and follow their rules.

The human government is trying at least they have helped more people on this earth than watchtower organization. Human government consist of humans who are compassionate and who show empathy

I don't know why you are engrossed with human government being destroyed and billions of humans being murdered

Russel taze came said world was going to end in 1914 he died of heartbreak in 1916 Rutherford, knorr, franz, henschel etc were waiting for the end to come and their Jehovah to destroy the earth and kill billions they all died of heartbreak

The 7 men in New York are still preaching the end is near and they built new headquarters. Well they will still wait for the destruction and heartbreak will kill them when it doesn't come the cycle will continue

sholytomx:

Present your own and let's deliberate on it now.....because that verse says they are standing in front of the throne does that mean that the Great crowd are in heaven abi? Prove it that they are in heaven.

sholytomx:
:DHuman government are showing empathy.....I suspect you have a share in the national cake :DHuman government are showing empathy.....I suspect you have a share in the national cake

sholytomx:

You see yourself, you dig deep into ur religion and found no answer, pls wait till the sunshine and then maybe u will get ur answers, abi you were digging deep into the watchtower in search of ur answers but instead u were finding fault with what u saw........why not wait and let the light to ur own religion shine and will see the answers it provide..

Hairyrapunzel:


Continue preaching that the human government will be destroyed and your God will kill billions of non jws while the world becomes a better and peaceful place.
Because you want to pet pandas in summer in your paradise you want your God to come and destroy the earth and kill billions

Did I ever tell you I was looking for answers? And why should I look for answers in your organization when you said they always adjust their answers. What is false today will be true tomorrow

Hairyrapunzel:


Continue preaching that the human government will be destroyed and your God will kill billions of non jws while the world becomes a better and peaceful place.
Because you want to pet pandas in summer in your paradise you want your God to come and destroy the earth and kill billions

Did I ever tell you I was looking for answers? And why should I look for answers in your organization when you said they always adjust their answers. What is false today will be true tomorrow

sholytomx:

I see u are not looking for answers there that's why u are quoting 1950s publication.... talk true now abi u wan write ur own book ni?
I see u are not looking for answers there that's why u are quoting 1950s publication.... talk true now abi u wan write ur own book ni?

Hairyrapunzel:


You said that it is only your Jehovah that knows who he will destroy and who he will save. I just showed you that otherwise. Your organization has passed judgement already as they know who will be saved and who will be destroyed.

don't try to cover up your inhumane beliefs

Are you telling me that it i not thesame Jehovah that was responsible for 1950s and recent publications? Or you are saying they are different? Or your Jehovah is a Jehovah of adjusted beliefs or your Jehovah is just
confused? I showed you new publications 2016 and you didn't comment on that

Have a nice time dreaming of where your Jehovah will destroy the earth, billions i.e. human government and people who do don't pay allegiance to watchtower organization aka non jws including their children so that millions (jws) will inherit earth

sholytomx:

Live ur life and do what is good.

Omotayor123:
I simply tell them I don't need to be preached to..
Just last week, my mum sat one down and preach to him instead.
When the table turn around, The man quickly carry in leg Waka without looking back.
I laugh so tey
My friend told me They don't pray, so she uses the 'Let us pray method' to disperse them.

loving Jehovah:
If they had said the same thing to your mum, what would have been your reaction? Jesus gave us an assignment to preach the Good news about his kingdom but you, the one sitting in your comfort get laughing at someone who probably left his business for the day to obey the command of Jesus. How did your laughter glorify God?
Another thing is that you heard a gossip from a friend without making an attempt to confirm from the Jehovah's witnesses themselves yet you publicly announced it on a public forum. What does that speak of you?

lovingJehovah:
If they had said the same thing to your mum, what would have been your reaction? Jesus gave us an assignment to preach the Good news about his kingdom but you, the one sitting in your comfort get laughing at someone who probably left his business for the day to obey the command of Jesus. How did your laughter glorify God?
Another thing is that you heard a gossip from a friend without making an attempt to confirm from the Jehovah's witnesses themselves yet you publicly announced it on a public forum. What does that speak of you?